Bono: The good news on poverty (Yes, there's good news)

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Prevodilac: Jovana Zorić Lektor: Mile Živković
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Chris Anderson asked me if I could put the last 25 years
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Kris Anderson me je pitao da li bih mogao da stavim poslednjih 25 godina
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of anti-poverty campaigning into 10 minutes for TED.
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kampanje protiv siromaštva u 10 minuta za TED.
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That's an Englishman asking an Irishman to be succinct.
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To je Englez koji traži od Irca da bude sažet.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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I said, "Chris, that would take a miracle."
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Rekao sam mu: "Krise, za to je potrebno čudo".
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He said, "Bono, wouldn't that be a good use of your messianic complex?"
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Odgovorio mi je: "Bono, ne bi li tako dobro iskoristio svoj kompleks mesije?"
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So, yeah.
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Tako da, eto.
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Then I thought, let's go even further than 25 years.
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Onda sam pomislio, hajde da se vratimo i dalje od 25 godina unazad.
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Let's go back before Christ, three millennia,
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Hajde da se vratimo tri milenijuma pre Hrista,
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to a time when, at least in my head, the journey for justice,
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u vreme kada je, barem za mene, borba za pravdu,
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the march against inequality and poverty really began.
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marš protiv nejednakosti i siromaštva, zapravo počeo.
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Three thousand years ago,
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Pre tri hiljade godina,
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civilization just getting started on the banks of the Nile,
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civilizacija se tek rađala na obalama Nila,
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some slaves, Jewish shepherds in this instance,
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neki robovi, jevrejski pastiri u ovom slučaju,
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smelling of sheep shit, I guess,
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koji su mirisali na ovčiji izmet, pretpostavljam,
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proclaimed to the Pharaoh, sitting high on his throne,
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izjavili su faraonu koji je sedeo visoko na svom tronu:
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"We, your majesty-ness, are equal to you."
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"Mi smo, vaše Veličanstvo, jednaki kao vi".
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And the Pharaoh replies, "Oh, no.
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A faraon odgovara: "A ne.
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You, your miserableness, have got to be kidding."
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Vi se, vaša jadnosti, sigurno šalite".
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And they say, "No, no, that's what it says here
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A oni kažu: "Ne, ne, to kaže ovde
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in our holy book."
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u našoj svetoj knjizi".
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Cut to our century, same country, same pyramids,
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Prelazimo u naš vek, istu državu, iste piramide,
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another people spreading the same idea
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drugi ljudi šire istu ideju
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of equality with a different book.
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o jednakosti sa drugačijom knjigom.
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This time it's called the Facebook.
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Ovoga puta ona se zove Fejsbuk.
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Crowds are gathered in Tahrir Square.
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Mase se okupljaju na trgu Tahrir.
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They turn a social network from virtual to actual,
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One pretvaraju socijalnu mrežu iz virtualne u stvarnu
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and kind of rebooted the 21st century.
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i na neki način, resetuju 21. vek.
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Not to undersell how messy and ugly
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Ne želim da umanjim značaj toga koliko su ružne i neuredne
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the aftermath of the Arab Spring has been,
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posledice Arapskog proleća,
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neither to oversell the role of technology,
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niti da uvećam ulogu tehnologije,
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but these things have given a sense of what's possible
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ali ovakve stvari su pokazale šta je moguće
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when the age-old model of power, the pyramid,
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kada se drevni model moći, piramida,
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gets turned upside down, putting the people on top
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okrene naopačke, stavljajući ljude na vrh,
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and the pharaohs of today on the bottom, as it were.
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a faraone današnjice na dno.
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It's also shown us that something as powerful
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Takođe nam je pokazalo da nešto toliko moćno poput
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as information and the sharing of it can challenge inequality,
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informacije i deljenja informacija može da pokoleba nejednakost,
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because facts, like people,
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jer činjenice, kao i ljudi,
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want to be free, and when they're free,
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žele da budu slobodne, a kada su slobodne,
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liberty is usually around the corner,
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sloboda je obično iza ćoška,
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even for the poorest of the poor --
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čak i za one najsiromašnije -
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facts that can challenge cynicism
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činjenice koje mogu da pokolebaju cinizam
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and the apathy that leads to inertia,
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i apatiju koja vodi do inercije,
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facts that tell us what's working and,
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činjenice koje nam govore šta funkcioniše,
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more importantly, what's not, so we can fix it,
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i još važnije, šta ne funkcioniše, da možemo to da popravimo,
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facts that if we hear them and heed them could help us
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činjenice koje ako čujemo i obratimo pažnju na njih
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meet the challenge that Nelson Mandela made
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ispunjavaju izazov koji je Nelson Mandela postavio
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back in 2005,
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još u 2005.
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when he asked us to be that great generation
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kada je od nas tražio da budemo ta velika generacija
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that overcomes that most awful offense to humanity,
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koja će prevazići onu najgoru uvredu čovečanstvu:
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extreme poverty,
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ekstremno siromaštvo.
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facts that build a powerful momentum.
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Činjenice koje imaju moćan uticaj.
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So I thought, forget the rock opera,
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Tako da sam pomislio, zaboravite rok opere,
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forget the bombast, my usual tricks.
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zaboravite pompeznost, trikove koje inače koristim.
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The only thing singing today would be the facts,
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Jedina stvar koja će danas pevati biće činjenice,
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for I have truly embraced by inner nerd.
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jer sam istinski prihvatio svog unutrašnjeg štrebera.
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So exit the rock star.
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Dakle, rok zvezda izlazi.
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Enter the evidence-based activist, the factivist.
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Ulazi aktivista potkrepljen dokazima - faktivista.
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Because what the facts are telling us
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Jer činjenice nam govore
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is that the long, slow journey,
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da se dugo, sporo putovanje,
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humanity's long, slow journey of equality,
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dugo, sporo putovanje čovečanstva prema jednakosti
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is actually speeding up.
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zapravo ubrzava.
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Look at what's been achieved.
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Pogledajte šta je postignuto.
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Look at the pictures these data sets print.
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Pogledajte podatke koje ove slike prikazuju.
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Since the year 2000, since the turn of the millennium,
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Od 2000. godine, od početka novog milenijuma,
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there are eight million more AIDS patients
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ima 8 miliona više pacijenata koji boluju od side
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getting life-saving antiretroviral drugs.
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čiji životi se spasavaju antiretrovirusnim lekovima.
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Malaria: There are eight countries in sub-Saharan Africa
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Malarija: ima 8 zemalja u Podsaharskoj Africi
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that have their death rates cut by 75 percent.
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čije stope smrtnosti su smanjene za 75 procenata.
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For kids under five, child mortality, kids under five,
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Za decu ispod pet godina, smrtnost dece ispod pet godina,
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it's down by 2.65 million a year.
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smanjila se za 2,65 miliona godišnje.
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That's a rate of 7,256 children's lives saved each day.
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To je stopa od 7256 dečjih života spasenih svakoga dana.
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Wow. Wow. (Applause)
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Opa. Opa. (Aplauz)
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Let's just stop for a second, actually, and think about that.
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Hajde zapravo da stanemo na trenutak i razmislimo o tome.
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Have you read anything anywhere in the last week
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Da li ste u toku prošle nedelje igde čuli išta
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that is remotely as important as that number? Wow.
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što je približno bitno kao taj broj? Sjajno.
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Great news. It drives me nuts
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Sjajne vesti. Izluđuje me
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that most people don't seem to know this news.
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to što većina ljudi izgleda ne zna ove vesti.
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Seven thousand kids a day. Here's two of them.
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Sedam hiljada dece dnevno. Evo dvoje od njih.
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This is Michael and Benedicta,
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Ovo su Majkl i Benedikta
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and they're alive thanks in large part
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i oni su živi uglavnom zahvaljujući
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to Dr. Patricia Asamoah -- she's amazing --
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dr Patriši Asamoa, ona je neverovatna,
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and the Global Fund, which all of you financially support,
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i Globalnom fondu, koji svako od vas finansijski podržava,
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whether you know it or not.
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bilo da to znate ili ne.
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And the Global Fund provides antiretroviral drugs
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A Globalni fond obezbeđuje antiretrovirusne lekove
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that stop mothers from passing HIV to their kids.
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kojima se sprečava prenošenje HIV-a sa majki na decu.
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This fantastic news didn't happen by itself.
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Ove fantastične vesti nisu se desile same od sebe.
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It was fought for, it was campaigned for,
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Za njih se borilo, vodile su se kampanje,
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it was innovated for.
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uvodile su se inovacije.
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And this great news gives birth to even more great news,
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A iz ovih sjajnih vesti rađa se još sjajnih vesti
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because the historic trend is this.
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jer je istorijski trend sledeći:
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The number of people living in back-breaking,
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broj ljudi koji žive u iscrpljujućem,
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soul-crushing extreme poverty has declined
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uništavajućem, ogromnom siromaštvu opao je
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from 43 percent of the world's population in 1990
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sa 43% svetske populacije u 1990.
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to 33 percent by 2000
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na 33% do 2000.
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and then to 21 percent by 2010.
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i onda na 21% do 2010.
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Give it up for that. (Applause)
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Molim aplauz za to. (Aplauz)
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Halved. Halved.
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Prepolovljen. Prepolovljen.
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Now, the rate is still too high -- still too many people
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Stopa je i dalje previsoka, i dalje previše ljudi
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unnecessarily losing their lives.
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nepotrebno gubi živote.
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There's still work to do.
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I dalje ima posla.
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But it's heart-stopping. It's mind-blowing stuff.
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Ali ovo oduzima dah. Ovo je zapanjujuće.
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And if you live on less than $1.25 a day,
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A kada živite na manje od 1,25 dolara dnevno,
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if you live in that kind of poverty,
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kada živite u takvom siromaštvu,
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this is not just data.
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ovo nisu samo podaci.
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This is everything.
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Ovo vam znači sve.
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If you're a parent who wants the best for your kids -- and I am --
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Ako ste roditelj koji želi najbolje za svoju decu, kao ja,
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this rapid transition is a route out of despair and into hope.
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ova brza promena je put iz očaja u nadu.
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And guess what? If the trajectory continues,
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I znate šta? Ako se ovakva putanja nastavi
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look where the amount of people living on $1.25 a day
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pogledajte šta će se desiti sa brojem ljudi koji žive na 1,25 dolara dnevno
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gets to by 2030.
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do 2030.
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Can't be true, can it?
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To ne može biti istina. Ili može?
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That's what the data is telling us. If the trajectory continues,
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To nam podaci govore. Ako se putanja nastavi,
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we get to, wow, the zero zone.
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stići ćemo do, opa, zone nula.
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For number-crunchers like us,
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Za nas koji se bavimo brojkama
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that is the erogenous zone,
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to je erogena zona
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and it's fair to say that I am, by now,
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i ispravno je reći da sam ja sada
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sexually aroused by the collating of data.
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seksualno uzbuđen prikupljenim podacima.
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So virtual elimination of extreme poverty,
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Dakle, virtuelna eliminacija ogromnog siromaštva,
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as defined by people living on less than $1.25 a day,
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definisanog ljudima koji žive na 1,25 dolara dnevno,
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adjusted, of course, for inflation from a 1990 baseline.
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naravno, podešena za inflaciju od osnove u 1990.
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We do love a good baseline.
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Volimo dobru osnovu.
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That's amazing.
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To je neverovatno.
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Now I know that some of you think this progress
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Ja znam da će neki od vas pomisliti da je ovaj napredak
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is all in Asia or Latin America or
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čitav u Aziji ili Latinskoj Americi
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model countries like Brazil --
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ili u državama po modelu kao što je Brazil,
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and who doesn't love a Brazilian model? --
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a ko ne voli brazilske modele?
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but look at sub-Saharan Africa.
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Ali pogledajte Podsaharsku Afriku.
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There's a collection of 10 countries, some call them the lions,
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Postoji grupa od 10 država, neki ih zovu "lavovi",
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who in the last decade have had a combination
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koje su u protekloj deceniji imale kombinaciju
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of 100 percent debt cancellation,
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stoprocentnog ukidanja dugova,
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a tripling of aid, a tenfold increase in FDI --
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utrostručenja pomoći, desetostrukog porasta SDU,
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that's foreign direct investment --
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tj. stranih direktnih ulaganja,
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which has unlocked a quadrupling of domestic resources -- that's local money --
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iz koje je proizašlo učetvorostručenje domaćih resursa, tj. lokalnog novca,
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which, when spent wisely -- that's good governance --
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koji ako se mudro troši, tj. ako se njime dobro upravlja,
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cut childhood mortality by a third,
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može smanjiti smrtnost dece za trećinu,
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doubled education completion rates,
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udvostručiti stope završetka obrazovanja,
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and they, too, halved extreme poverty,
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a one su takođe prepolovile ekstremno siromaštvo
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and at this rate, these 10 get to zero too.
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i po trenutnoj stopi, ovih 10 država takođe će stići do nule.
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So the pride of lions
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Dakle, ponos "lavova"
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is the proof of concept.
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je dokaz ove ideje.
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There are all kinds of benefits to this.
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Postoje mnoge koristi ovoga.
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For a start, you won't have to listen
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Za početak, nećete morati da slušate
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to an insufferable little jumped-up Jesus like myself.
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malog nepodnošljivog i uobraženog Isusa kao što sam ja.
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How about that? (Applause)
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Šta mislite o tome? (Aplauz)
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And 2028, 2030? It's just around the corner.
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A 2028, 2030? Samo što nisu stigle.
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I mean, it's about three Rolling Stones farewell concerts away.
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Pazite, to je za neka tri oproštajna koncerta Roling Stonsa.
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(Laughter) I hope. I'm hoping.
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(Smeh) Nadam se. Nadam se.
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Makes us look really young.
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Pored toga mi izgledamo baš mlado.
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So why aren't we jumping up and down about this?
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Pa zašto onda ne skačemo od sreće zbog ovoga?
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Well, the opportunity is real, but so is the jeopardy.
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Pa, postoji prava prilika, ali i rizik.
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We can't get this done until we really accept
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Ne možemo ovo postići ukoliko stvarno ne prihvatimo
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that we can get this done.
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da to možemo postići.
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Look at this graph.
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Pogledajte ovaj grafikon.
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It's called inertia. It's how we screw it up.
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Ovo se zove inercija. Tako možemo sve zabrljati.
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And the next one is really beautiful.
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A sledeća stvar je veoma lepa.
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It's called momentum.
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Zove se zamah.
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And it's how we can bend the arc of history
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I njime možemo luk prošlosti spustiti
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down towards zero,
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sve do nule,
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just doing the things that we know work.
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samo radeći ono što sada radimo.
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So inertia versus momentum.
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Dakle, inercija protiv zamaha.
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There is jeopardy, and of course,
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Postoji rizik i naravno,
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the closer you get, it gets harder.
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što smo bliže cilju, to postaje teže.
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We know the obstacles that are in our way
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Znamo koje su prepreke na našem putu
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right now, in difficult times.
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trenutno, u ovim teškim vremenima.
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In fact, today in your capital, in difficult times,
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Zapravo, danas u vašoj prestonici, u ovim teškim vremenima,
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some who mind the nation's purse want to cut
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neko ko brine o novčaniku naroda želi da prekine
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life-saving programs like the Global Fund.
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programe za spasavanje života poput Globalnog fonda.
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But you can do something about that.
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Ali vi možete da uradite nešto po tom pitanju.
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You can tell politicians
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Možete da kažete političarima
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that these cuts [can cost] lives.
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da to prekidanje može da znači živote.
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Right now today, in Oslo as it happens,
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Trenutno se u Oslu
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oil companies are fighting to keep secret
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naftne kompanije bore kako bi sačuvale u tajnosti
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their payments to governments
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koliko plaćaju vladama
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for extracting oil in developing countries.
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za uzimanje nafte iz zemalja u razvoju.
09:50
You can do something about that too.
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Možete da uradite nešto i po tom pitanju.
09:52
You can join the One Campaign,
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Možete da se pridružite "One" kampanji
09:54
and leaders like Mo Ibrahim, the telecom entrepreneur.
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i vođama poput Moa Ibrahima, preduzetnika u telekomunikacijama.
09:58
We're pushing for laws that make sure that at least some
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Insistiramo na zakonima koji će osigurati da bar deo
10:02
of the wealth under the ground
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podzemnog bogatstva
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ends up in the hands of the people living above it.
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završi u rukama ljudi koji žive na toj zemlji.
10:08
And right now, we know
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A znamo da trenutno
10:12
that the biggest disease of all
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najveća bolest od svih
10:16
is not a disease. It's corruption.
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i nije bolest nego korupcija.
10:18
But there's a vaccine for that too.
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Ali i za to postoji vakcina.
10:20
It's called transparency, open data sets,
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Zove se transparentnost, otvoreni skupovi podataka,
10:24
something the TED community is really on it.
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nešto na čemu TED zajednica zaista radi.
10:29
Daylight, you could call it, transparency.
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Svetlost dana, ako želite, transparentnost.
10:32
And technology is really turbocharging this.
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A tehnologija ovo izuzetno unapređuje.
10:35
It's getting harder to hide if you're doing bad stuff.
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Postaje sve teže sakriti ako radite loše stvari.
10:40
So let me tell you about the U-report,
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Ispričaću vam o U-izveštaju,
10:43
which I'm really excited about. It's 150,000 millennials
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zbog kojeg sam vrlo uzbuđen. Ima oko 150.000 mladih ljudi
10:46
all across Uganda, young people
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širom Ugande
10:49
armed with 2G phones, an SMS social network
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naoružano 2G mobilnim telefonima, društvena SMS mreža
10:53
exposing government corruption
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koja razotkriva korupciju vlade
10:56
and demanding to know what's in the budget
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i zahteva da zna šta se nalazi u budžetu
10:59
and how their money is being spent.
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i kako se njihov novac troši.
11:02
This is exciting stuff.
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Prilično uzbudljiva stvar.
11:04
Look, once you have these tools,
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Vidite, jednom kada nabavite ovakve alatke,
11:08
you can't not use them.
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ne možete da ih ne koristite.
11:09
Once you have this knowledge, you can't un-know it.
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Jednom kada to saznate, ne možete to zaboraviti.
11:12
You can't delete this data from your brain,
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Ne možete izbrisati te podatke iz vašeg mozga,
11:15
but you can delete the cliched image
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ali možete izbrisati otrcanu sliku
11:18
of supplicant, impoverished peoples
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siromašnih ljudi koji prose
11:20
not taking control of their own lives.
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i ne preuzimaju kontrolu nad svojim životom.
11:22
You can erase that, you really can,
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Možete je izbrisati, zaista možete
11:25
because it's not true anymore. (Applause)
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jer ona više ne postoji. (Aplauz)
11:30
It's transformational.
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Ona se transformisala.
11:33
2030? By 2030, robots,
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2030? Do 2030, roboti
11:37
not just serving us Guinness, but drinking it.
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nam neće samo donositi pivo nego će ga i piti.
11:40
By the time we get there,
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Do trenutka kada stignemo do toga
11:42
every place with a rough semblance of governance
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svako mesto sa nekakvom vrstom uprave
11:45
might actually be on their way.
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moglo bi biti na putu ka tome.
11:49
So I'm here to -- I guess we're here
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Dakle, ja sam ovde - pretpostavljam da smo mi ovde
11:53
to try and infect you with this virtuous, data-based virus,
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da pokušamo da vas zarazimo ovim dobrim virusom potkrepljenim činjenicama,
11:58
the one we call factivism.
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a zovemo ga faktivizam.
12:00
It's not going to kill you.
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Neće vas ubiti.
12:02
In fact, it could save countless lives.
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Zapravo, mogao bi da spasi nebrojeno mnogo života.
12:06
I guess we in the One Campaign would love you
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Mi iz "One" kampanje voleli bismo
12:09
to be contagious, spread it, share it, pass it on.
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da budete zarazni, da ga širite, šaljete dalje.
12:14
By doing so, you will join us and countless others
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Radeći to, pridružićete se nama i mnogim drugima
12:19
in what I truly believe is the greatest adventure ever taken,
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u nečemu za šta zaista verujem da je najveća avantura u istoriji,
12:24
the ever-demanding journey of equality.
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u napornoj borbi za jednakost.
12:28
Could we really be the great generation
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Možemo li zaista biti ona velika generacija
12:31
that Mandela asked us to be?
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kakvu je Mandela tražio?
12:33
Might we answer that clarion call with science,
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Možemo li odgovoriti na taj glasan poziv naukom,
12:37
with reason, with facts,
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razumom, činjenicama
12:40
and, dare I say it, emotions?
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i ako smem da kažem, emocijama?
12:44
Because as is obvious, factivists have feelings too.
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Jer, kao što se vidi iz priloženog, i faktivisti imaju osećanja.
12:50
I'm thinking of Wael Ghonim, though.
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Mislim na Vejela Gonima.
12:53
Some of you know him. He set up one of the Facebook groups
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Neki od vas ga znaju. Pokrenuo je jednu od grupa na Fejsbuku
12:55
behind the Tahrir Square in Cairo.
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koje su stajale iza pobune na trgu Tahrir u Kairu.
12:59
He got thrown in jail for it,
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Završio je u zatvoru zbog toga,
13:01
but I have his words tattooed on my brain.
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ali njegove reči urezane su mi u pamćenju.
13:05
"We are going to win because we don't understand politics.
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"Pobedićemo jer ne razumemo politiku.
13:10
We are going to win because we don't play their dirty games.
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Pobedićemo jer ne igramo njihove prljave igre.
13:13
We are going to win because we don't have a party political agenda.
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Pobedićemo jer nemamo politički cilj iza svega ovoga.
13:16
We are going to win because the tears
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Pobedićemo jer suze
13:18
that come from our eyes actually come from our hearts.
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u našim očima zaista dolaze iz naših srca.
13:21
We are going to win because we have dreams,
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Pobedićemo jer imamo snove
13:24
and we're willing to stand up for those dreams."
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i spremni smo da se borimo za njih."
13:28
Wael is right.
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Vejel je u pravu.
13:30
We're going to win
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Pobedićemo
13:32
if we work together as one,
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ako budemo radili zajedno kao jedan,
13:34
because the power of the people
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jer je moć naroda
13:37
is so much stronger than the people in power.
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mnogo jača od ljudi na vlasti.
13:40
Thank you.
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Hvala.
13:44
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
13:47
Thank you so much. (Applause)
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Hvala vam mnogo. (Aplauz)
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