What's wrong with what we eat | Mark Bittman

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Prevodilac: Ana Zivanovic-Nenadovic Lektor: Ivana Korom
00:16
I write about food. I write about cooking.
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Ja pišem o hrani. Pišem o kulinarstvu.
00:18
I take it quite seriously,
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To shvatam prilično ozbiljno.
00:20
but I'm here to talk about something
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ali, ovde sam da bih govorio o nečemu
00:22
that's become very important to me in the last year or two.
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što mi je u poslednjih godinu, dve dana postalo jako važno.
00:26
It is about food, but it's not about cooking, per se.
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Radi se o hrani, ali ne o samom kuvanju.
00:31
I'm going to start with this picture of a beautiful cow.
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Počeću sa ovom slikom lepe krave.
00:34
I'm not a vegetarian -- this is the old Nixon line, right?
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Nisam vegetarijanac - ovo je stara Niksonova izreka, zar ne?
00:37
But I still think that this --
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Ali i dalje mislim da ovo -
00:39
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:40
-- may be this year's version of this.
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- može biti ovogodišnja verzija ovoga.
00:43
Now, that is only a little bit hyperbolic.
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Sada, mozda samo malo preuveličavam.
00:47
And why do I say it?
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A zašto to kažem?
00:49
Because only once before has the fate of individual people
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Zato što su samo jednom ranije sudbina pojedinačnih ljudi
00:53
and the fate of all of humanity
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i sudbina celog čovečanstva
00:55
been so intertwined.
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bile toliko isprepletane.
00:57
There was the bomb, and there's now.
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Tada je bila bomba, a i sada je.
01:00
And where we go from here is going to determine
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I kuda idemo odavde će odrediti
01:02
not only the quality and the length of our individual lives,
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ne samo kvalitet i dužinu naših individualnih života
01:06
but whether, if we could see the Earth a century from now,
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već i da li, kad bismo mogli da vidimo zemlju za jedan vek,
01:08
we'd recognize it.
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bismo je prepoznali.
01:10
It's a holocaust of a different kind,
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Ovo je holokaust druge vrste
01:12
and hiding under our desks isn't going to help.
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i skrivanje ispod stolova neće pomoći.
01:15
Start with the notion that global warming
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Počnite sa činjenicom da globalno zagrevanje
01:17
is not only real, but dangerous.
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nije samo stvarno, već i opasno.
01:19
Since every scientist in the world now believes this,
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Pošto svaki naučnik u svetu sada u ovo veruje
01:22
and even President Bush has seen the light, or pretends to,
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a čak je i predsednik Buš to priznao ili se samo pretvara,
01:25
we can take this is a given.
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možemo to uzeti zdravo za gotovo.
01:28
Then hear this, please.
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A onda molim vas, slušajte ovo:
01:30
After energy production, livestock is the second-highest contributor
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nakon proizvodnje energije, stoka je drugi po redu doprinosilac
01:34
to atmosphere-altering gases.
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gasovima koji menjaju atmosferu.
01:36
Nearly one-fifth of all greenhouse gas
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Skoro jedna petina svih gasova sa efektom staklene bašte
01:40
is generated by livestock production --
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nastaje uzgojem stoke -
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more than transportation.
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više nego transportom.
01:44
Now, you can make all the jokes you want about cow farts,
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Sad, možete da zbijate koje god hoćete šale o kravljim prdežima,
01:48
but methane is 20 times more poisonous than CO2,
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ali metan je 20 puta otrovinji od CO2,
01:51
and it's not just methane.
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a ne radi se samo o metanu.
01:53
Livestock is also one of the biggest culprits in land degradation,
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Stoka je takođe i najveći krivac za degradaciju zemljišta,
01:57
air and water pollution, water shortages and loss of biodiversity.
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zagađenje vazduha i vode, nestašice vode i gubitka biološke raznovrsnosti.
02:02
There's more.
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Ima toga još.
02:03
Like half the antibiotics in this country
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Oko pola totalne količine antibiotika u ovoj državi
02:06
are not administered to people, but to animals.
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se ne daje ljudima, već životinjama.
02:09
But lists like this become kind of numbing, so let me just say this:
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Ali liste ovog tipa postaju na neki način tupe, zato mi dozvolite da kažem samo ovo:
02:12
if you're a progressive,
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ako ste napredni,
02:14
if you're driving a Prius, or you're shopping green,
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ako vozite "Prijus" ili ako kupujete ekološki,
02:17
or you're looking for organic,
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ili ako tražite organsko,
02:19
you should probably be a semi-vegetarian.
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onda bi verovatno trebalo da budete polu-vegetarijanac.
02:23
Now, I'm no more anti-cattle than I am anti-atom,
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E sada, ja nisam ništa više protiv krava, nego što sam protiv atoma,
02:27
but it's all in the way we use these things.
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ali sve je u načinu na koji koristimo te stvari.
02:29
There's another piece of the puzzle,
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Postoji još jedan deo slagalice
02:31
which Ann Cooper talked about beautifully yesterday,
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o kome je En Kuper juče divno govorila,
02:33
and one you already know.
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onaj koji već poznajete.
02:36
There's no question, none, that so-called lifestyle diseases --
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Nema sumnje - nikakve - da su tzv. oboljenja izazvana životnim stilovima -
02:40
diabetes, heart disease, stroke, some cancers --
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dijabetes, srčana oboljenja, infarkti i neki rakovi -
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are diseases that are far more prevalent here
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bolesti koje su mnogo više zastupljene ovde (SAD)
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than anywhere in the rest of the world.
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nego bilo gde drugo u svetu.
02:49
And that's the direct result of eating a Western diet.
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To je direktna posledica zapadnjačke ishrane.
02:53
Our demand for meat, dairy and refined carbohydrates --
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Naša potražnja za mesom, mlečnim proizvodima i prerađenim ugljenim hidratima -
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the world consumes one billion cans or bottles of Coke a day --
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svet dnevno troši jednu milijardu limenki ili flaša "Koka Kole" -
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our demand for these things, not our need, our want,
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naša potražnja tih stvari, ne naša potreba, naša želja -
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drives us to consume way more calories than are good for us.
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nas navodi da unosimo mnogo više kalorija nego što je to za nas dobro.
03:10
And those calories are in foods that cause, not prevent, disease.
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A te kalorje se nalaze u hrani koja prouzrokuje, a ne onoj koja sprečava, bolesti.
03:15
Now global warming was unforeseen.
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Globalno zagrevanje je bilo nepredviđeno.
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We didn't know that pollution did more than cause bad visibility.
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Nismo znali da je zagađenje učinilo išta osim što je prouzrokovalo lošu vidljivost.
03:21
Maybe a few lung diseases here and there,
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Možda po koje plućno oboljenje tu i tamo,
03:23
but, you know, that's not such a big deal.
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ali znate, to i nije tako velika stvar.
03:26
The current health crisis, however,
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Međutim, trenutna zdravstvena kriza
03:28
is a little more the work of the evil empire.
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je nešto više od dela zlog carstva.
03:31
We were told, we were assured,
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Rečeno nam je, ubeđivali su nas,
03:34
that the more meat and dairy and poultry we ate,
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da što više mesa i mlečnih proizvoda jedemo
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the healthier we'd be.
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zdraviji ćemo biti.
03:38
No. Overconsumption of animals, and of course, junk food,
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Ne. Prekomerna ishrana na bazi životinja i naravno, nezdrave brze hrane,
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is the problem, along with our paltry consumption of plants.
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je problem, zajedno sa našom neznatnom ishranom na bazi biljaka.
03:45
Now, there's no time to get into the benefits of eating plants here,
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E sada, nemamo vremena da ulazimo u dobrobiti jedenja biljaka,
03:48
but the evidence is that plants -- and I want to make this clear --
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ali dokaz je da biljke - želim da budem jasan -
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it's not the ingredients in plants, it's the plants.
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ne radi se o biljnim sastojcima već o biljkama.
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It's not the beta-carotene, it's the carrot.
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Ne radi se o beta karotenu, već o šargarepi.
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The evidence is very clear that plants promote health.
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Postoji jasan dokaz da biljke poboljšavaju zdravlje.
04:02
This evidence is overwhelming at this point.
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Taj dokaz je u ovom trenutku ogroman.
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You eat more plants, you eat less other stuff, you live longer.
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Ako jedete više biljaka, jedete manje ostalih stvari, živite duže.
04:08
Not bad.
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Nije loše.
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But back to animals and junk food.
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Ali, vratimo se na životinje i nezdravu brzu hranu.
04:12
What do they have in common?
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Šta imaju zajedničko?
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One: we don't need either of them for health.
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Pod jedan: nijedan nam nije potreban iz zdravstvenih razloga.
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We don't need animal products,
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Ne trebaju nam životinjski proizvodi,
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and we certainly don't need white bread or Coke.
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a posebno nam ne trebaju beli hleb ili "Koka Kola".
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Two: both have been marketed heavily,
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Pod dva: oba se preterano mnogo reklamiraju,
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creating unnatural demand.
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doprinoseći na taj način stvaranju neprirodne potražnje.
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We're not born craving Whoppers or Skittles.
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Nismo rođeni sa žudnjom za hamburgerima i gumenim bombonama.
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Three: their production has been supported by government agencies
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Pod tri: njihovu proizvodnju podržavaju vladine organizacije
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at the expense of a more health- and Earth-friendly diet.
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na račun zdravlja i ekološke hrane.
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Now, let's imagine a parallel.
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Zamislimo sada paralelu.
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Let's pretend that our government supported an oil-based economy,
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Pretvarajmo se da naša vlada podržava ekonomiju baziranu na nafti
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while discouraging more sustainable forms of energy,
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dok istovremeno obeshrabruje samoodržavajuće oblike energija,
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knowing all the while that the result would be
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sve vreme znajući da će rezultat biti
04:50
pollution, war and rising costs.
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zagađenje, rat i rastući troškovi.
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Incredible, isn't it?
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Neverovatno, zar ne?
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Yet they do that.
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Da, oni to rade.
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And they do this here. It's the same deal.
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To rade i ovde. Ista je stvar.
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The sad thing is, when it comes to diet,
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Tužno je, da kada se radi o ishrani,
05:00
is that even when well-intentioned Feds
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čak i kada dobronamerni vladini činovnici
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try to do right by us, they fail.
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pokušavaju da urade nešto dobro, ne uspevaju.
05:07
Either they're outvoted by puppets of agribusiness,
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Ili su nadglasani pionima agro-biznisa,
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or they are puppets of agribusiness.
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ili su sami pioni agro-biznisa.
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So, when the USDA finally acknowledged
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Tako da kada je američko ministarstvo poljoprivrede konačno priznalo
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that it was plants, rather than animals, that made people healthy,
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da su biljke, a ne životinje ono što ljude čini zdravima,
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they encouraged us, via their overly simplistic food pyramid,
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podstaklo nas je, putem svoje pojednostavljenje piramide ishrane,
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to eat five servings of fruits and vegetables a day,
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da jedemo voće i povrće pet puta dnevno,
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along with more carbs.
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zajedno sa više ugljenih hidrata.
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What they didn't tell us is that some carbs are better than others,
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Ono što nam nisu rekli je da su neki ugljeni hidrati bolji od drugih,
05:32
and that plants and whole grains
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i da bi biljke i neprerađene žitarice
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should be supplanting eating junk food.
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trebalo da nadomeste jedenje nezdrave brze hrane.
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But industry lobbyists would never let that happen.
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Ali industrijski lobi to nikada ne bi dozvolio.
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And guess what?
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I pogodite šta?
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Half the people who developed the food pyramid
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Polovina ljudi koja je radila na pravljenju piramide ishrane
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have ties to agribusiness.
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ima veze sa agro-biznisom.
05:45
So, instead of substituting plants for animals,
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Tako da umesto da zamene životinje biljkama,
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our swollen appetites simply became larger,
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nasi progutani apetiti jednostavno postaju veći,
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and the most dangerous aspects of them remained unchanged.
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a njihov najopasniji vid je ostao nepromenjen.
05:55
So-called low-fat diets, so-called low-carb diets --
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Takozvane dijete sa malo masti, takozvane dijete sa malo ugljenih hidrata -
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these are not solutions.
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nisu rešenja.
06:01
But with lots of intelligent people
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Ali i sa mnogo inteligentnih ljudi
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focusing on whether food is organic or local,
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koji vode računa o tome da li je hrana organska ili lokalna,
06:06
or whether we're being nice to animals,
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i o tome da li smo dobri prema životinjama,
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the most important issues just aren't being addressed.
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najvažnija pitanja nisu potegnuta.
06:11
Now, don't get me wrong.
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Nemojte me pogrešno shvatiti.
06:13
I like animals,
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Ja volim životinje
06:15
and I don't think it's just fine to industrialize their production
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i ne mislim da je u redu da ih proizvodimo industrijski
06:18
and to churn them out like they were wrenches.
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i da ih štancujemo kao ključeve.
06:21
But there's no way to treat animals well,
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Ali ne postoji način na koji životinje možete humano tretirati
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when you're killing 10 billion of them a year.
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kada ih ubijate na desetine milijardi godišnje.
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That's our number. 10 billion.
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To je naš broj. 10 milijardi.
06:29
If you strung all of them --
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Kada biste ih sve poređali u liniju -
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chickens, cows, pigs and lambs -- to the moon,
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piliće, krave, svinje i jagnjad - do meseca,
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they'd go there and back five times, there and back.
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stigli bi do tamo i nazad pet puta - tamo i nazad.
06:37
Now, my math's a little shaky, but this is pretty good,
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E sad, moja matematika nije sjajna, ali to je dosta,
06:40
and it depends whether a pig is four feet long or five feet long,
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i zavisi da li je svinja dugačka 1.2 ili 1.5 metara,
06:43
but you get the idea.
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ali razumete već šta hoću da kažem.
06:45
That's just the United States.
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To je samo SAD.
06:48
And with our hyper-consumption of those animals
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I sa našom hiper-konzumacijom tih životinja
06:50
producing greenhouse gases and heart disease,
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koja ispušta gasove sa efektom staklene bašte i prouzrokuje srčana oboljenja,
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kindness might just be a bit of a red herring.
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ljubaznost može samo da bude zabluda.
06:56
Let's get the numbers of the animals we're killing for eating down,
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Hajde da stavimo na papir broj životinja koje ubijamo radi ishrane
07:00
and then we'll worry about being nice to the ones that are left.
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i onda ćemo da brinemo o tome da budemo dobri prema onima koje su preostale.
07:04
Another red herring might be exemplified by the word "locavore,"
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Druga zabluda može biti objašnjena rečju "lokavor",
07:08
which was just named word of the year by the New Oxford American Dictionary.
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koju je Novi oksfordski američki rečnik upravo proglasio Rečju Godine.
07:11
Seriously.
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Ozbiljno.
07:13
And locavore, for those of you who don't know,
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A lokavor, za one od vas koji ne znaju,
07:15
is someone who eats only locally grown food --
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je neko ko jede samo hranu koja je uzgajena lokalno.
07:17
which is fine if you live in California,
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Što je u redu ako živite u Kaliforniji,
07:20
but for the rest of us it's a bit of a sad joke.
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ali za nas ostale, to je pomalo tužna šala.
07:23
Between the official story -- the food pyramid --
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Između zvanične priče - piramida ishrane -
07:26
and the hip locavore vision,
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i moderne vizije lokavora,
07:28
you have two versions of how to improve our eating.
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imate dve verzije o tome kako da poboljšate svoju ishranu.
07:30
(Laughter).
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(Smeh).
07:32
They both get it wrong, though.
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Ipak, nijedna nije u pravu.
07:34
The first at least is populist, and the second is elitist.
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Prva je ako ništa drugo narodska, a druga je elitistička.
07:38
How we got to this place is the history of food in the United States.
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Kako smo dovde došli je istorija ishrane u SAD.
07:42
And I'm going to go through that,
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I proći ću kroz nju,
07:44
at least the last hundred years or so, very quickly right now.
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barem kroz poslednjih sto godina, veoma brzo.
07:47
A hundred years ago, guess what?
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Pogodite šta je bilo pre sto godina?
07:49
Everyone was a locavore: even New York had pig farms nearby,
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Svi su bili lokavori, čak je i Njujork imao farme svinja u okolini,
07:53
and shipping food all over the place was a ridiculous notion.
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a transport hrane unaokolo je bio smešan pojam.
07:57
Every family had a cook, usually a mom.
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Svaka porodica je imala kuvara, obično je to bila mama.
08:00
And those moms bought and prepared food.
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I te mame su kupovale i pripremale hranu.
08:03
It was like your romantic vision of Europe.
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Bilo je to nešto kao naša romantična vizija Evrope.
08:05
Margarine didn't exist.
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Margarin nije postojao.
08:07
In fact, when margarine was invented,
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U stvari, kada je margarin izmišljen,
08:10
several states passed laws declaring that it had to be dyed pink,
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nekoliko država u SAD su donele zakon da mora biti obojen u roze
08:14
so we'd all know that it was a fake.
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da bismo svi znali da je veštački proizvod.
08:17
There was no snack food, and until the '20s,
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Nije bilo grickalica, a do dvadesetih,
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until Clarence Birdseye came along, there was no frozen food.
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dok se nije pojavio "Klarens Brdsaj", nije bilo ni smrznute hrane.
08:22
There were no restaurant chains.
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Nije bilo lanaca restorana.
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There were neighborhood restaurants run by local people,
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Bilo je restorana u naseljima koje su vodili lokalni ljudi,
08:27
but none of them would think to open another one.
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ali niko od njih nije ni pomišljao da otvori još jedan.
08:29
Eating ethnic was unheard of unless you were ethnic.
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Nacionalne kuhinje su bile neznanica osim ako ste sami bili nekog etničkog porekla.
08:32
And fancy food was entirely French.
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A pomodarska hrana je bila francuska.
08:35
As an aside, those of you who remember
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Usput, samo da dodam, oni od vas koji se sećaju
08:38
Dan Aykroyd in the 1970s doing Julia Child imitations
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Dena Akrojda kako sedamdesetih imitira Džuliju Čajld
08:42
can see where he got the idea of stabbing himself from this fabulous slide.
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mogu na ovom slajdu da vide gde je dobio ideju da sam sebe izbode.
08:47
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:48
Back in those days, before even Julia,
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U ondašnje vreme, čak i pre Džulije,
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back in those days, there was no philosophy of food.
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u ondašnje vreme nije bilo filozofije o hrani.
08:54
You just ate.
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Samo ste jeli.
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You didn't claim to be anything.
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Niste tvrdili da ste išta.
08:58
There was no marketing. There were no national brands.
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Nije bilo marketinga. Nije bilo domaćih marki.
09:01
Vitamins had not been invented.
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Vitamini nisu bili pronađeni.
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There were no health claims, at least not federally sanctioned ones.
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Nije bilo zdravstvenih problema, barem ne onih koje je vlada kažnjavala.
09:07
Fats, carbs, proteins -- they weren't bad or good, they were food.
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Masti, ugljeni hidrati, proteini - nisu bili loši ili dobri, bili su samo hrana.
09:11
You ate food.
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Jeli ste hranu.
09:14
Hardly anything contained more than one ingredient,
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Skoro ništa nije sadržalo više od jednog sastojka,
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because it was an ingredient.
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jer je to bio samo sastojak.
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The cornflake hadn't been invented.
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Kornfleks nije bio izmišljen.
09:20
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:21
The Pop-Tart, the Pringle, Cheez Whiz, none of that stuff.
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"Smoki", perece, čips, ništa od tih stvari nije postojalo.
09:24
Goldfish swam.
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"Životinjsko carstvo" je bilo divlje.
09:26
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:28
It's hard to imagine. People grew food, and they ate food.
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Teško je zamisliti. Ljudi su gajili i jeli hranu.
09:31
And again, everyone ate local.
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I naravno, svi su jeli lokalno.
09:34
In New York, an orange was a common Christmas present,
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Narandža je u Njujorku bila uobičajen božićni poklon
09:37
because it came all the way from Florida.
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zato što je dolazila čak iz Floride.
09:41
From the '30s on, road systems expanded,
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Od 1930-ih pa nadalje putevi su se proširili,
09:43
trucks took the place of railroads,
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kamioni su zamenili železnicu,
09:45
fresh food began to travel more.
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i sveža hrana je počela sve više da putuje.
09:47
Oranges became common in New York.
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Narandže su postale uobičajene u Njujorku.
09:49
The South and West became agricultural hubs,
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Jug i zapad su postali središta agrikulture,
09:52
and in other parts of the country, suburbs took over farmland.
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a u ostalim delovima zemlje, poljoporivredna zemljišta su zamenjena predgrađima.
09:55
The effects of this are well known. They are everywhere.
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Posledice ovoga su dobro poznate, ima ih svuda.
09:58
And the death of family farms is part of this puzzle,
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A smrt porodičnih farmi je deo ove slagalice,
10:01
as is almost everything
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kao što je i sve ostalo,
10:03
from the demise of the real community
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od propasti pravih društvenih zajednica (sela)
10:05
to the challenge of finding a good tomato, even in summer.
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do težine pronalaženja dobrog pradajaza, čak i tokom leta.
10:09
Eventually, California produced too much food to ship fresh,
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Sa vremenom, Kalifornija je proizvodila suviše sveže hrane za transport,
10:13
so it became critical to market canned and frozen foods.
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tako da je postalo neophodno izbaciti na tržište konzerviranu i zamrznutu hranu.
10:16
Thus arrived convenience.
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Tako je nastala lagodnost.
10:18
It was sold to proto-feminist housewives
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Ona je prodavana je pre-feminističkim domaćicama
10:20
as a way to cut down on housework.
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nudeći im mogućnost da smanje količinu kućnih poslova.
10:22
Now, I know everybody over the age of, like 45 --
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E sad, znam da svima koji imaju preko 45 godina
10:25
their mouths are watering at this point.
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curi voda iz usta u ovom trenutku.
10:27
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:28
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
10:29
If we had a slide of Salisbury steak, even more so, right?
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A da imamo slajd sa šniclom, još bi nam više curila, zar ne?
10:33
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:35
But this may have cut down on housework,
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Međutim, to nam je možda smanjilo kućne poslove,
10:37
but it cut down on the variety of food we ate as well.
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ali je isto tako smanjilo i raznovrsnost hrane koju smo jeli.
10:40
Many of us grew up never eating a fresh vegetable
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Mnogi od nas su odrasli, a da nikada nisu pojeli sveže povrće
10:44
except the occasional raw carrot or maybe an odd lettuce salad.
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osim povremene sveže šargarepe ili možda čudne zelene salate.
10:48
I, for one -- and I'm not kidding --
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Ja, na prvom mestu - i ne šalim se -
10:50
didn't eat real spinach or broccoli till I was 19.
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nisam jeo pravi spanać ili brokoli dok nisam napunio 19 godina.
10:54
Who needed it though? Meat was everywhere.
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A i kome je trebao? Mesa je bilo svuda.
10:56
What could be easier, more filling or healthier for your family
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Šta bi drugo bilo jednostavnije, ukusnije ili zdravije za vašu porodicu
10:59
than broiling a steak?
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od pečene šnicle?
11:01
But by then cattle were already raised unnaturally.
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Ali, stoka je tada već bila uzgajana na neprirodan način.
11:05
Rather than spending their lives eating grass,
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Umesto što je provodila život pasući travu,
11:07
for which their stomachs were designed,
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za koju je njen stomak i predodređen,
11:10
they were forced to eat soy and corn.
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stoka je bila primoravana da jede soju i kukuruz.
11:12
They have trouble digesting those grains, of course,
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Stoka, naravno ima problema kada vari ove žitarice,
11:15
but that wasn't a problem for producers.
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ali to za prozivođače nije bio problem.
11:18
New drugs kept them healthy.
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Novi lekovi su stoku održavali zdravom.
11:21
Well, they kept them alive.
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U stvari, održavali su je živom.
11:23
Healthy was another story.
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Zdravlje je bila već druga priča.
11:25
Thanks to farm subsidies,
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Zahvaljujući subvencijama za agrikulturu,
11:27
the fine collaboration between agribusiness and Congress,
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kao i saradnji između agro-biznisa i Parlamenta,
11:30
soy, corn and cattle became king.
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soja, kukuruz i stoka su postali kralj.
11:32
And chicken soon joined them on the throne.
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A uskoro im se na tronu pridružila i živina.
11:35
It was during this period that the cycle of
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U toku ovog perioda je počeo ciklus
11:38
dietary and planetary destruction began,
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dijetetskog i planetarnog uništavanja.
11:40
the thing we're only realizing just now.
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stvar koju tek sada počinjemo da spoznajemo.
11:42
Listen to this,
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Slušajte ovo:
11:44
between 1950 and 2000, the world's population doubled.
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između 1950. i 2000. svetska populacija se udvostručila.
11:49
Meat consumption increased five-fold.
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Konzumacija mesa se upetostručila.
11:52
Now, someone had to eat all that stuff, so we got fast food.
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Neko je morao sve to da pojede i tako smo dobili brzu hranu.
11:59
And this took care of the situation resoundingly.
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I ona se pobrinula za situaciju.
12:02
Home cooking remained the norm, but its quality was down the tubes.
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Domaća kuhinja je ostala norma, ali je njen kvalitet znatno oslabio.
12:06
There were fewer meals with home-cooked breads, desserts and soups,
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Bilo je manje jela sa domaćim hlebom, poslasticama i supama,
12:10
because all of them could be bought at any store.
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zato što ste sve njih mogli da kupite u bilo kojoj prodavnici.
12:12
Not that they were any good, but they were there.
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Nije da su bili dobri, ali bilo ih je.
12:15
Most moms cooked like mine:
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Većina mama je kuvala kao moja -
12:17
a piece of broiled meat, a quickly made salad with bottled dressing,
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komad pečenog mesa, brza salata sa kupovnim prelivom,
12:21
canned soup, canned fruit salad.
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supa iz konzerve, voćna salata iz konzerve.
12:23
Maybe baked or mashed potatoes,
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Možda i pečeni ili pire krompir
12:26
or perhaps the stupidest food ever, Minute Rice.
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ili možda najgluplja hrana ikada - "pirinač za minut".
12:29
For dessert, store-bought ice cream or cookies.
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Za dezert, kupovni sladoled ili kolači.
12:33
My mom is not here, so I can say this now.
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Mama mi nije tu, tako da ovo mogu da kažem.
12:37
This kind of cooking drove me to learn how to cook for myself.
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Ova vrsta kuvanja me je navela da naučim da kuvam sam za sebe.
12:41
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:42
It wasn't all bad.
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Uopšte nije bilo loše.
12:44
By the '70s, forward-thinking people
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Do početka sedamdesetih ljudi naprednog razmišljanja
12:46
began to recognize the value of local ingredients.
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su počeli da shvataju vrednost lokalnih sastojaka.
12:49
We tended gardens, we became interested in organic food,
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Negovali smo bašte i postali smo zainteresovani za organsku hranu,
12:52
we knew or we were vegetarians.
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znali smo ili smo bili vegetarijanci.
12:54
We weren't all hippies, either.
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Nismo ni svi bili hipici.
12:56
Some of us were eating in good restaurants and learning how to cook well.
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Neki od nas su jeli u dobrim restoranima i učili kako da dobro kuvaju.
12:59
Meanwhile, food production had become industrial. Industrial.
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U međuvremenu, proizvodnja hrane je postala industrijska. Industrijska.
13:04
Perhaps because it was being produced rationally,
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Možda zato što je proizvođena razumno,
13:07
as if it were plastic,
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kao da je plastika,
13:09
food gained magical or poisonous powers, or both.
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hrana je dobila magične ili otrovne moći ili obe.
13:13
Many people became fat-phobic.
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Mnogi ljudi su dobili fobiju na masnoće.
13:15
Others worshiped broccoli, as if it were God-like.
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Drugi su obožavali brokoli kao da je Bog.
13:19
But mostly they didn't eat broccoli.
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Ali u većini slučajeva oni nisu jeli brokoli.
13:21
Instead they were sold on yogurt,
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Umesto toga, jeli su jogurt,
13:23
yogurt being almost as good as broccoli.
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jogurt koji je skoro dobar koliko i brokoli.
13:25
Except, in reality, the way the industry sold yogurt
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Osim što je u stvarnosti način na koji je industrija prodavala jogurt
13:28
was to convert it to something much more akin to ice cream.
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bio da ga pretvori u nešto mnogo sličnije sladoledu.
13:31
Similarly, let's look at a granola bar.
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Na sličan način, pogledajmo "Bonžitu".
13:34
You think that that might be healthy food,
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Mislite da je to možda zdrava hrana,
13:36
but in fact, if you look at the ingredient list,
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ali ako zapravo pogledate listu sastojaka
13:38
it's closer in form to a Snickers than it is to oatmeal.
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videćete da je bliža "Snikers" čokoladi nego žitaricama.
13:43
Sadly, it was at this time that the family dinner was put in a coma,
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Na žalost, u to vreme je porodična večera pala u komu,
13:46
if not actually killed --
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ako nije zapravo bila ubijena.
13:49
the beginning of the heyday of value-added food,
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Bio je to početak vrhunca obogaćene hrane
13:52
which contained as many soy and corn products
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koja je sadrzala onoliko soje i kukuruznih prozivoda
13:54
as could be crammed into it.
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koliko ih je u nju moglo da stane.
13:56
Think of the frozen chicken nugget.
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Pomislite na zamrznute pohovane pilece komade.
13:58
The chicken is fed corn, and then its meat is ground up,
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Pile jede kukuruz, a onda je njegovo meso samleveno
14:01
and mixed with more corn products to add bulk and binder,
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i pomesano sa jos vise kukuruznih prozivoda da bi se povezalo i dobilo na masi,
14:05
and then it's fried in corn oil.
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a onda se przi u kukuruznom ulju.
14:09
All you do is nuke it. What could be better?
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Vi ga samo podgrejete. Ima li neceg boljeg?
14:12
And zapped horribly, pathetically.
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A u stvari je meso patetično i gnusno uništeno.
14:15
By the '70s, home cooking was in such a sad state
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Do početka sedamdesetih, kuvanje je bilo u tako tužnom stanju
14:19
that the high fat and spice contents of foods
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da je visok sadržaj masti i začina u hrani
14:22
like McNuggets and Hot Pockets --
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kao što je "McNuggets" ili mini zaleđeni sendviči -
14:24
and we all have our favorites, actually --
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a svi mi zapravo imamo omiljene -
14:27
made this stuff more appealing than the bland things
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učinio ove stvari privlačnijim od onih bezukusnih
14:29
that people were serving at home.
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koje su ljudi jeli kod kuće.
14:31
At the same time, masses of women were entering the workforce,
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Istovremeno, mase žena su postajale radna snaga,
14:35
and cooking simply wasn't important enough
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i kuvanje više jednistavno nije bilo dovoljno važno
14:37
for men to share the burden.
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muškarcima da bi učestvovali u njemu.
14:39
So now, you've got your pizza nights, you've got your microwave nights,
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Sada imate pica večeri i mikrotalasne večeri,
14:42
you've got your grazing nights,
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imate večeri kada jedete ostatke od prethodnih večera,
14:44
you've got your fend-for-yourself nights and so on.
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imate "snađi se sam" večeri i tako dalje.
14:47
Leading the way -- what's leading the way?
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A na čelu je - šta je na čelu?
14:50
Meat, junk food, cheese:
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Meso, brza nezdrava hrana, sir.
14:52
the very stuff that will kill you.
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Sve one stvari koje će vas ubiti.
14:54
So, now we clamor for organic food.
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A sada zahtevamo organsku hranu.
14:56
That's good.
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To je dobro.
14:58
And as evidence that things can actually change,
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I kao dokaz da se stvari zapravo mogu promeniti
15:00
you can now find organic food in supermarkets,
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sada možete naći organsku hranu u svim supermarketima
15:02
and even in fast-food outlets.
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i čak i u restoranima brze hrane.
15:04
But organic food isn't the answer either,
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Ali ni organska hrana nije odgovor,
15:06
at least not the way it's currently defined.
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barem ne na način na koji je trenutno opisana.
15:09
Let me pose you a question.
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Dozvolite da vam postavim pitanje.
15:11
Can farm-raised salmon be organic,
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Da li losos iz ribnjaka može biti organski,
15:13
when its feed has nothing to do with its natural diet,
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ako njegova hrana nema nikakve veze sa njegovom prirodnom dijetom,
15:18
even if the feed itself is supposedly organic, and the fish themselves
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čak i ako je ta hrana, pretpostavimo, organska; a ribe su u ribnjaku
15:22
are packed tightly in pens, swimming in their own filth?
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gusto zbijene, plivajući u sopstvenoj prljavštini?
15:27
And if that salmon's from Chile, and it's killed down there
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I ako je losos iz Čilea i tamo je ubijen
15:31
and then flown 5,000 miles, whatever,
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a onda je leteo 8,000 km ili koliko već,
15:34
dumping how much carbon into the atmosphere?
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pritom doprinoseći koliko ugljenika u atmosferu?
15:37
I don't know.
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Ne znam.
15:39
Packed in Styrofoam, of course,
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Zapakovan u stiropor, naravno,
15:41
before landing somewhere in the United States,
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pre nego što sleti negde u SAD,
15:44
and then being trucked a few hundred more miles.
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a onda je prevezen kamionom još nekoliko stotina kilometara.
15:46
This may be organic in letter, but it's surely not organic in spirit.
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Ovo je možda organsko na papiru, ali sigurno nije organsko u duhu.
15:52
Now here is where we all meet.
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E sada, evo gde se svi sastajemo.
15:54
The locavores, the organivores, the vegetarians,
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Lokavori, organivori, vegetarijanci,
15:57
the vegans, the gourmets
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vegani, sladokusci
15:59
and those of us who are just plain interested in good food.
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i oni koji smo samo jednstavno zainteresovani za dobru hranu.
16:03
Even though we've come to this from different points,
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Iako smo dovde došli iz različitih tački,
16:06
we all have to act on our knowledge
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svi moramo da nešto preduzmeno
16:08
to change the way that everyone thinks about food.
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da bismo promenili način na koji svi razmišljaju o hrani.
16:12
We need to start acting.
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Moramo da uradimo nešto.
16:14
And this is not only an issue of social justice, as Ann Cooper said --
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A ovo nije samo stvar društvene pravde, kao što je En Kuper rekla -
16:18
and, of course, she's completely right --
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i naravno, u potpunosti je u pravu -
16:20
but it's also one of global survival.
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već je takođe i stvar globalnog preživljavanja.
16:22
Which bring me full circle and points directly to the core issue,
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To me navodi da zatvorim krug i direktno ukažem na stvari koje su u samoj srži,
16:27
the overproduction and overconsumption of meat and junk food.
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prekomerna prozivodnja i prekomerna potrošnja mesa i nezdrave brze hrane.
16:31
As I said, 18 percent of greenhouse gases
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Kao što sam rekao, 18% gasova sa efektom staklene bašte
16:34
are attributed to livestock production.
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dolazi od uzgajanja stoke.
16:37
How much livestock do you need to produce this?
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Koliko je stoke potrebno za ovu količinu gasova?
16:40
70 percent of the agricultural land on Earth,
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70% zemljišta za agrikulturu.
16:43
30 percent of the Earth's land surface is directly or indirectly devoted
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30% zemljine kopnene površine je direktno ili indirektno posvećeno
16:49
to raising the animals we'll eat.
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uzgoju životinja koje ćemo jesti.
16:52
And this amount is predicted to double in the next 40 years or so.
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Predviđeno je da će se ova količina udvostručiti u narednih 40-ak godina.
16:55
And if the numbers coming in from China
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A ako su brojevi iz Kine
16:57
are anything like what they look like now,
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imalo slični onome kako danas izgledaju,
17:00
it's not going to be 40 years.
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onda ne govorimo o 40 godina.
17:02
There is no good reason for eating as much meat as we do.
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Nema opravdanja za količinu mesa koju jedemo.
17:06
And I say this as a man who has eaten a fair share of corned beef in his life.
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I to kažem kao čovek koji je pojeo popriličnu količinu govedine tokom svog života.
17:11
The most common argument is that we need nutrients --
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Najčešći argument je da nam trebaju hranljivi sastojci -
17:14
even though we eat, on average, twice as much protein
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iako, u proseku jedemo duplo više proteina
17:17
as even the industry-obsessed USDA recommends.
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nego što čak i industrijom-opsednuto američko ministarstvo poljoprivrede preporučuje.
17:22
But listen: experts who are serious about disease reduction
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Ali slušajte - stručnjaci koji ozbiljno shvataju smanjenje oboljenja
17:26
recommend that adults eat just over half a pound of meat per week.
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preporučuju odraslima da jedu samo nešto više od 225g mesa nedeljno.
17:32
What do you think we eat per day? Half a pound.
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Koliko mislite da mi jedemo dnevno? 225 grama.
17:36
But don't we need meat to be big and strong?
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Ali zar nam meso nije neophodno da bismo bili veliki i snažni?
17:39
Isn't meat eating essential to health?
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Zar jedenje mesa nije od suštinske važnosti za zdravlje?
17:42
Won't a diet heavy in fruit and vegetables
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Zar nas dijeta puna voća i povrća
17:44
turn us into godless, sissy, liberals?
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neće pretvoriti u bezbožne, šonjave liberale?
17:47
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
17:48
Some of us might think that would be a good thing.
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Neki od nas možda misle da bi to bila dobra stvar.
17:51
But, no, even if we were all steroid-filled football players,
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Ali ne, čak i da smo steroidima napunjeni fudbaleri,
17:56
the answer is no.
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odgovor je ne.
17:58
In fact, there's no diet on Earth that meets
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U stvari, ne postoji nijedna dijeta na svetu koja neće,
18:02
basic nutritional needs that won't promote growth,
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ispunjavajući osnovne hranljive potrebe, promovisati rast,
18:06
and many will make you much healthier than ours does.
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a mnoge će vas učiniti mnogo zdravijim nego što vas čini naša dijeta.
18:09
We don't eat animal products for sufficient nutrition,
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Mi ne jedemo životinjske proizvode radi dovoljnih hranljivih stastojaka,
18:12
we eat them to have an odd form of malnutrition, and it's killing us.
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vec ih jedemo da bismo imali cudnan oblik lose ishrane, i to nas ubija.
18:18
To suggest that in the interests of personal and human health
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Ako kazemo da radi licnih interesa, ako i interesa ljudskog zdravlja
18:21
Americans eat 50 percent less meat --
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Amerikanci treba da jedu 50% manje mesa -
18:24
it's not enough of a cut, but it's a start.
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nije dovoljno smanjenje, ali je neki pocetak.
18:27
It would seem absurd, but that's exactly what should happen,
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Izgledalo bi apsurdno, ali to je upravo ono što bi trebalo da se desi,
18:32
and what progressive people, forward-thinking people
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i ono što bi progresivni ljudi, ljudi naprednog razmišljanja
18:35
should be doing and advocating,
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trebalo da rade i podrzavaju,
18:38
along with the corresponding increase in the consumption of plants.
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uporedo sa odgovrajucim povecanjem konzumacije biljaka.
18:42
I've been writing about food more or less omnivorously --
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Pišem o hrani manje više kao neko ko sve jede -
18:45
one might say indiscriminately -- for about 30 years.
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neko će reci neselektivno - već skoro 30 godina.
18:48
During that time, I've eaten
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Tokom tog vremena pojeo sam
18:50
and recommended eating just about everything.
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i preporučio da se pojede, skoro sve.
18:54
I'll never stop eating animals, I'm sure,
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Nikada neću prestati da jedem životinje, siguran sam
18:57
but I do think that for the benefit of everyone,
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ali mislim da je za dobrobit svih
18:59
the time has come to stop raising them industrially
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došlo vreme da prestanemo da životinje uzgajamo industrijskim putem
19:02
and stop eating them thoughtlessly.
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i da prestanemo da ih jedemo nepromišljeno.
19:04
Ann Cooper's right.
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En Kuper je u pravu.
19:06
The USDA is not our ally here.
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Amerikko ministarstvo poljoprivrede nije naš saveznik u ovome.
19:11
We have to take matters into our own hands,
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Moramo da uzmemo stvari u sopstvene ruke,
19:13
not only by advocating for a better diet for everyone --
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ne samo tako što ćemo se zalagati za bolju ishranu za sve -
19:16
and that's the hard part -- but by improving our own.
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a to je teži deo - već i tako što ćemo poboljšati sopstvenu ishranu.
19:20
And that happens to be quite easy.
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I to postaje prilično lako.
19:22
Less meat, less junk, more plants.
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Manje mesa, manje nezdrave brze hrane, više biljaka.
19:25
It's a simple formula: eat food.
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Jednostavna formula - jedite hranu.
19:27
Eat real food.
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Jedite pravu hranu.
19:29
We can continue to enjoy our food, and we continue to eat well,
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Možemo da nastavimo da uživamo u našoj hrani i da nastavimo da dobro jedemo,
19:33
and we can eat even better.
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a možemo da jedemo još bolje.
19:35
We can continue the search for the ingredients we love,
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Možemo da nastavimo potragu za sastojcima koje volimo
19:38
and we can continue to spin yarns about our favorite meals.
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i možemo da nastavimo da razglabamo o našim omiljenim jelima.
19:43
We'll reduce not only calories, but our carbon footprint.
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Smanjićemo ne samo naše kalorije, već i naš karbonski otisak.
19:47
We can make food more important, not less,
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Možemo učiniti hranu važnijom, a ne nevažnom,
19:50
and save ourselves by doing so.
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i na taj način sebe spasiti.
19:52
We have to choose that path.
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Moramo izabrati taj put.
19:55
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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