JP Rangaswami: Information is food

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Translator: Timothy Covell Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Prevodilac: Aleksandra Jovovic Lektor: Miloš Milosavljević
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I love my food.
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Volim hranu.
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And I love information.
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I volim informacije.
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My children usually tell me
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Moja deca mi obično kažu
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that one of those passions is a little more apparent than the other.
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da je jedna od tih strasti malo očiglednija od druge.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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But what I want to do in the next eight minutes or so
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Ono što želim da uradim u sledećih osam minuta
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is to take you through how those passions developed,
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je da vas provedem kroz to kako su se ove strasti razvile
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the point in my life when the two passions merged,
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u mom životu do tačke kada su se spojile,
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the journey of learning that took place from that point.
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put učenja koje je počelo od tog trenutka.
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And one idea I want to leave you with today
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Jedna ideja koju danas hoću da vam prenesem je
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is what would would happen differently in your life
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šta bi se drugačije desilo u vašem životu
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if you saw information the way you saw food?
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kada biste na informaciju gledali na način na koji vidite hranu?
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I was born in Calcutta --
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Rođen sam u Kalkuti -
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a family where my father and his father before him
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u porodici gde su moj otac i njegov otac pre njega
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were journalists,
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bili novinari
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and they wrote magazines in the English language.
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i pisali su časopise na engleskom jeziku.
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That was the family business.
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To je bio porodični posao.
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And as a result of that,
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I kao rezultat toga
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I grew up with books everywhere around the house.
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odrastao sam sa knjigama svuda po kući.
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And I mean books everywhere around the house.
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I to baš svuda po kući.
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And that's actually a shop in Calcutta,
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To je u stvari prodavnica u Kalkuti,
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but it's a place where we like our books.
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ali to je mesto gde volimo svoje knjige.
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In fact, I've got 38,000 of them now
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U stvari, sada ih imam 38.000
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and no Kindle in sight.
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i nema Kindle-a ni na pomolu.
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But growing up as a child with the books around everywhere,
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Ali odrastajući kao dete okruženo knjigama,
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with people to talk to about those books,
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sa ljudima sa kojima sam mogao da pričam o tim knjigama,
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this wasn't a sort of slightly learned thing.
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to nije bila tek uzgred naučena stvar.
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By the time I was 18, I had a deep passion for books.
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Do trenutka kada sam napunio 18, imao sam snažnu strast prema knjigama.
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It wasn't the only passion I had.
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To nije bila jedina strast koju sam imao.
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I was a South Indian
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Ja sam iz južne Indije
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brought up in Bengal.
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odrastao u Bengalu.
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And two of the things about Bengal:
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I postoje dve stvari u vezi sa Bengalom:
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they like their savory dishes
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oni vole svoja slana jela
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and they like their sweets.
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i vole svoje slatkiše.
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So by the time I grew up,
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Tako da, kad sam odrastao
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again, I had a well-established passion for food.
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imao sam čvrsto uspostavljenu strast prema hrani.
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Now I was growing up in the late '60s and early '70s,
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Odrastao sam kasnih '60-ih i ranih '70-ih godina
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and there were a number of other passions I was also interested in,
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i postojale su brojne druge strasti za koje sam takođe bio zainteresovan
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but these two were the ones that differentiated me.
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ali pomenute dve su bile one zbog kojih sam se razlikovao.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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And then life was fine, dandy.
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Život je bio dobar, ugodan.
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Everything was okay,
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Sve je bilo OK,
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until I got to about the age of 26,
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dok nisam napunio 26 godina
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and I went to a movie called "Short Circuit."
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i odgledao film "Kratak spoj".
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Oh, some of you have seen it.
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Aha, neki od vas su ga gledali.
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And apparently it's being remade right now
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Sada se snima rimejk
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and it's going to be coming out next year.
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i izaći će sledeće godine.
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It's the story of this experimental robot
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To je priča o eksperimentalnom robotu
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which got electrocuted and found a life.
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koga je pogodio električni udar i oživeo ga.
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And as it ran, this thing was saying, "Give me input. Give me input."
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I dok je trčala, ova stvar je govorila: "Daj mi input. Daj mi input."
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And I suddenly realized that for a robot
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I odjednom sam shvatio da su za robota
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both information as well as food
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i informacija i hrana
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were the same thing.
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bile ista stvar.
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Energy came to it in some form or shape,
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Energija mu je dolazila u nekoj formi i obliku,
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data came to it in some form or shape.
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podaci su mu dolazili u nekoj formi i obliku.
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And I began to think,
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I počeo sam da razmišljam,
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I wonder what it would be like
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da se pitam kako bi bilo
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to start imagining myself
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da počnem da zamišljam sebe
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as if energy and information were the two things I had as input --
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kao da su energija i informacije dve stvari koje imam kao input -
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as if food and information were similar in some form or shape.
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kao da su hrana i informacije slični u nekom obliku.
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I started doing some research then, and this was the 25-year journey,
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Onda sam počeo malo da istražujem i to je putovanje koje je trajalo 25 godina
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and started finding out
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i počeo sam da otkrivam
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that actually human beings as primates
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da, u stvari, ljudska bića kao primati
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have far smaller stomachs
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imaju daleko manji želudac
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than should be the size for our body weight
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nego što bi trebalo da imaju za našu telesnu težinu
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and far larger brains.
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i daleko veći mozak.
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And as I went to research that even further,
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I kako sam to istraživao još dalje
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I got to a point where I discovered something
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stigao sam do tačke gde sam otkrio nešto
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called the expensive tissue hypothesis.
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što se zove hipoteza skupih tkiva.
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That actually for a given body mass of a primate
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Da je u stvari, za datu telesnu masu primata,
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the metabolic rate was static.
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metabolizam bio statičan.
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What changed was the balance of the tissues available.
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Ono što se menjalo je odnos između raspoloživih tkiva.
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And two of the most expensive tissues in our human body
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A dva najskuplja tkiva u našem telu
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are nervous tissue and digestive tissue.
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su nervno tkivo i tkivo digestivnog trakta.
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And what transpired was that people had put forward a hypothesis
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I dogodilo se to da su ljudi izneli hipotezu
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that was apparently coming up with some fabulous results by about 1995.
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koja je davala odlične rezultate do otprilike 1995.
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It's a lady named Leslie Aiello.
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to je gospođa koja se zove Lesli Ajelo.
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And the paper then suggested that you traded one for the other.
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Rad je sugerisao da se zamenjuje jedno za drugo.
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If you wanted your brain for a particular body mass to be large,
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Ako želite da vaš mozak za određenu telesnu težinu bude veći,
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you had to live with a smaller gut.
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morate živeti sa manjim stomakom.
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That then set me off completely
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To me je zaista pokrenulo da kažem
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to say, Okay, these two are connected.
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"U redu, ove dve stvari su povezane".
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So I looked at the cultivation of information as if it were food
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Zato sam razmotrio uzgajanje informacija kao da su hrana
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and said, So we were hunter-gathers of information.
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i rekao sam: "Bili smo lovci-sakupljači informacija."
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We moved from that to becoming farmers and cultivators of information.
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Napredovali smo do toga da smo postali farmeri i uzgajivači informacija.
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Does that really explain what we're seeing
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Da li to zaista objašnjava ono što vidimo
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with the intellectual property battles nowadays?
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u današnjim borbama oko intelektualnog vlasništva?
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Because those people who were hunter-gatherers in origin
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Zato što su ti ljudi koji su izvorno bili lovci-sakupljači
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wanted to be free and roam and pick up information as they wanted,
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hteli da budu slobodni i lutaju i skupljaju informacije kako žele,
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and those that were in the business of farming information
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a oni koji su se bavili poslom uzgajanja informacija
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wanted to build fences around it,
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hteli su da sagrade ograde oko njih,
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create ownership and wealth and structure and settlement.
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stvore vlasništvo, bogatstvo, strukturu i naselja.
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So there was always going to be a tension within that.
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Oduvek je trebalo da postoji tenzija unutar toga.
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And everything I saw in the cultivation
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I sve što sam video unutar kultivacije
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said there were huge fights amongst the foodies
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govorilo je da je bilo velikih borbi među ljubiteljima hrane,
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between the cultivators and the hunter-gatherers.
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između uzgajivača i lovaca-sakupljača.
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And this is happening here.
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I to se događa ovde.
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When I moved to preparation, this same thing was true,
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Kada sam prešao na pripremu ova ista stvar je važila
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expect that there were two schools.
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osim što su tu postojale dve škole.
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One group of people said you can distill your information,
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Jedna grupa ljudi je tvrdila da se informacije mogu destilovati,
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you can extract value, separate it and serve it up,
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vrednost se može ekstrahovati, izdvojiti i poslužiti,
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while another group turned around
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dok je druga grupa uzvratila
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and said no, no you can ferment it.
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i rekla: Ne, ne. Možete ih fermentisati.
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You bring it all together and mash it up
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Spojte ih sve i izmešajte
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and the value emerges that way.
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i vrednost se na taj način pojavljuje.
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The same is again true with information.
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Ista stvar opet važi za informacije.
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But consumption was where it started getting really enjoyable.
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Ali konzumiranje je ono gde je počelo da postaje stvarno zabavno.
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Because what I began to see then
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Jer ono što sam tada počeo da uviđam je to
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was there were so many different ways people would consume this.
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da postoji toliko mnogo različitih načina na koje bi ljudi ovo konzumirali.
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They'd buy it from the shop as raw ingredients.
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Kupili bi ih u prodavnici kao sirove sastojke.
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Do you cook it? Do you have it served to you?
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Da li ih kuvate? Da li vam ih poslužuju?
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Do you go to a restaurant?
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Da li idete u restoran?
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The same is true every time as I started thinking about information.
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Isto je važilo svaki put kada bih počeo da razmišljam o informacijama.
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The analogies were getting crazy --
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Analogije su počele da bivaju sve luđe -
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that information had sell-by dates,
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informacije imaju rokove za prodaju,
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that people had misused information that wasn't dated properly
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ljudi su zloupotrebljavali informacije koje nisu nosile propisan datum
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and could really make an effect on the stock market,
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i mogli su zaista da imaju uticaj na berzu,
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on corporate values, etc.
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korporativne vrednosti itd.
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And by this time I was hooked.
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I do tog trenutka sam već bio navučen.
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And this is about 23 years into this process.
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Sada sam oko 23 godine u ovom procesu.
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And I began to start thinking of myself
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I počeo sam da razmišljam o sebi
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as we start having mash-ups of fact and fiction,
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kako smo počeli da mešamo činjenice i fikciju,
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docu-dramas, mockumentaries, whatever you call it.
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doku-drame, pseudo-dokumentarce, kako god da ih zovete.
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Are we going to reach the stage
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Da li ćemo dostići nivo
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where information has a percentage for fact associated with it?
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gde će informacija po definiciji sadržati određen procenat istine?
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We start labeling information for the fact percentage?
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Krenućemo da obeležavamo informacije prema procentu istine u njima?
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Are we going to start looking at what happens
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Da li ćemo početi da posmatramo ono što se događa
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when your information source is turned off, as a famine?
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kada je izvor informacija isključen, kao glad?
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Which brings me to the final element of this.
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Što me dovodi do poslednjeg elementa.
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Clay Shirky once stated that there is no such animal as information overload,
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Klej Širki je jednom izjavio da ne postoji takva stvar
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there is only filter failure.
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kao što je pretrpanost informacijama, postoji samo neuspešno filtriranje.
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I put it to you that information,
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Predočio sam vam da informacija,
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if viewed from the point of food,
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ako je posmatrana iz ugla hrane,
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is never a production issue; you never speak of food overload.
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nikad nije problem proizvodnje; nikad se ne govori o pretrpanosti hranom.
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Fundamentally it's a consumption issue.
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U osnovi to je problem konzumiranja.
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And we have to start thinking
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I moramo da počnemo da se pitamo
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about how we create diets within ourselves, exercise within ourselves,
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kako da napravimo sopstvene dijete, sopstvene vežbe,
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to have the faculties to be able to deal with information,
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da bismo stekli sposobnosti da se nosimo sa informacijama,
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to have the labeling to be able to do it responsibly.
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da ih obeležavamo kako bismo radili to odgovorno.
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In fact, when I saw "Supersize Me," I starting thinking of saying,
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U stvari, kada sam odgledao "Super veliki ja",
počeo sam da razmišljam o tome šta bi se dogodilo
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What would happen
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if an individual had 31 days nonstop Fox News?
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ako bi neko 31 dan neprekidno gledao Fox News?
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Would there be time to be able to work with it?
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Da li bi imao vremena da to obradi?
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So you start really understanding
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Tako da počinjete zaista da shvatate
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that you can have diseases, toxins, a need to balance your diet,
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da možete imati bolesti, toksine, potrebu da uravnotežite ishranu
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and once you start looking, and from that point on,
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i čim počnete da posmatrate i od tog trenutka nadalje
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everything I have done in terms of the consumption of information,
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sve što sam uradio u vezi sa konzumacijom informacija,
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the production of information, the preparation of information,
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proizvodnjom informacija, pripremom informacija,
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I've looked at from the viewpoint of food.
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sve sam posmatrao sa stanovišta hrane.
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It has probably not helped my waistline any
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To verovatno nije pomoglo mom obimu struka
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because I like practicing on both sides.
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zato što volim da vežbam na obe strane.
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But I'd like to leave you with just that question:
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Ali bih voleo da vas ostavim samo sa tim pitanjem:
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If you began to think of all the information that you consume
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ako biste počeli da mislite o informacijama koje konzumirate
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the way you think of food,
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na način na koji mislite o hrani,
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what would you do differently?
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šta biste uradili drugačije?
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Thank you very much for your time.
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Hvala vam mnogo na vašem vremenu.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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