Misha Glenny: Hire the hackers!

Translator: Ahmed Kadiye Reviewer: Abdikani Hassan

Now this is a very un-TED-like thing to do,

waxa aan hada sameynaayo waa wax ka duwan TED gebi ahaan

but let's kick off the afternoon

laakiin cawada aan ku bilaawno

with a message

warqad

from a mystery sponsor.

ka socoto ''Masuulka waxyaabaha qarsoon''

Anonymous: Dear Fox News,

''Qof aan la aqoon'': Fox News-oow

it has come to our unfortunate attention

Dareenkeena waxaa soo jiitay

that both the name and nature of Anonymous

in dhamaan magaca iyo deegaanka qofka aan la qoon

has been ravaged.

la kashifay

We are everyone. We are no one.

Anagu dadka dhan ayaan nahay, hal qof ma nihin

We are anonymous. We are legion.

Dad aan la aqoonin ayaynu nahay, koox ayaana matelnaa

We do not forgive. We do not forget.

wax ma cafino, waxna ma hilmaamno

We are but the base of chaos.

Fowdada bilawgeeda ayaynu nahay

Misha Glenny: Anonymous, ladies and gentlemen --

Misha Glenny: ''Dad aan la aqoon'' Mudanayaal iyo marwooyin

a sophisticated group

waa koox horumarsan

of politically motivated hackers

waa koox wax Dhaqaajisa oo siyaasad usoo jeestay

who have emerged in 2011.

soona baxay sanadkii 2011

And they're pretty scary.

aad ayaana looga cabsadaa

You never know when they're going to attack next,

ma ogaan kareysid waqtiga weerarkooda xiga ay soo qaadayaan

who or what the consequences will be.

qofka iyo waxa ay cawaaqibtaas noqon karto

But interestingly,

laakiin si xiiso leh

they have a sense of humor.

waa dad kaftan yaqaana

These guys hacked into Fox News' Twitter account

kooxdaan, waxay jabsadeen Qaanada Twitterka ee Shabakada FOX NEWS

to announce President Obama's assassination.

si ay usheegaan in la dilay Madaxweyne Obama

Now you can imagine the panic that would have generated

markaan waad qiyaasi kartaa naxdinta ka dhalan karta

in the newsroom at Fox.

qolka wararka ee Fox

"What do we do now?

Maxaan sameynaa?

Put on a black armband, or crack open the champagne?"

Calaamad madoow miyaan saarnaa, mise dhalo khamri ayaan furnaa

(Laughter)

(Qosal)

And of course, who could escape the irony

Dabcan, yaa waaye qofka ay kasuuro galeyso, jeesjeeskaas in uu sameeyo

of a member of Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.

in xubin kamid ah shirkada wararka ee Rupert Murdoch

being a victim of hacking for a change.

la jabsaday si wax loo badalo

(Laughter)

(Qosal)

(Applause)

(Sacab)

Sometimes you turn on the news

Mararka qaar Akhbaarta ayaad shideysaa

and you say, "Is there anyone left to hack?"

waxaadna isleedahay ''Ma waxaan dhiman qof kaloo la jabsado?''

Sony Playstation Network -- done,

Shabakada Sony ee Games-ka waa la jabsaday

the government of Turkey -- tick,

Xukuumada Turkiga waa la jabsaday

Britain's Serious Organized Crime Agency -- a breeze,

Wakaalada Ingiriiska ee danbiyada khatarta ah - si fudud ayaa loo jabsaday

the CIA -- falling off a log.

Wakaalada Sirdoonka Mareenkankana-- hoos ayay u rideen

In fact, a friend of mine from the security industry

Runtii, Mid saaxiibkeey ah oo dhanka amaanka kashaqeya

told me the other day

ayaa iisheegay Maalmo kahor

that there are two types of companies in the world:

in Shirkadaha caalamka 2 nooc ay yihiin

those that know they've been hacked, and those that don't.

Shirkada og in la jabsaday iyo kuwo aanan ogeyn

I mean three companies

waxaan kawadaa in 3 shirkad

providing cybersecurity services to the FBI

ee Amaanka Internetka ka shaqeeya howlahoodana u gudbiya FBI

have been hacked.

in la jabsaday

Is nothing sacred anymore, for heaven's sake?

miyeesan jirin wax ilaahay dartiisa loo dhaafaayo?

Anyway, this mysterious group Anonymous --

wax walbeey ahaato, kooxdaan qarsoon

and they would say this themselves --

waxay naftooda u sheegayaan

they are providing a service

in ay qabanayaan howlo

by demonstrating how useless companies are

ay ku cadeynayaan in Shirkadaha Eberka ah

at protecting our data.

ee ku ilaalinayaan Macluumaadkeena

But there is also a very serious aspect to Anonymous --

laakiin dadkaasi qarsoon waxay leeyihiin dhinac qatar ah

they are ideologically driven.

waxay leeyihiin Fikrado ayaga riixaaya

They claim that they are battling

waxay sheeganayaan in ay la dagaalayaan

a dastardly conspiracy.

shirqoolo xunxun

They say that governments are trying

waxay dhahayaan: in xukuumadaha ay isku dayayaan

to take over the Internet and control it,

in Internetka ay qabsadaan, ayna maamulaan

and that they, Anonymous,

ayagana ''Qof walboo qarsoon''

are the authentic voice of resistance --

ee yihiin codka iska Caabinta xaqiiqda ah.

be it against Middle Eastern dictatorships,

kana soo horjeeda Kali talisnimada Bariga dhexe

against global media corporations,

kasoo horjeeda Hey'adaha warbaahinta caalamiga ah

or against intelligence agencies,

kana soo horjeeda Wakaaladaha Sirdoonka

or whoever it is.

iyo qof walbay ahaato

And their politics are not entirely unattractive.

siyaasadadoona ma ahan mid gebi ahaan la necebyahay

Okay, they're a little inchoate.

Hagaag, laakiin xoogaa ayaga ma dhameystirno

There's a strong whiff

waxaa jirto Heybad awood badan

of half-baked anarchism about them.

oo ah fowdada ceyriinka ah ee leeyihiin

But one thing is true:

laakiin hal mid ayaa sax ah

we are at the beginning

waxaan kujirnaa bilaawga

of a mighty struggle

Loolan weyn

for control of the Internet.

oo Maamulida Internetka ah

The Web links everything,

Shabakada wax walba ayay isku xirtaa

and very soon

mar dhawna

it will mediate most human activity.

waxay dhaxdhaxaad ka noqon doontaa dhaqdhaqaaqyada ugu badan ee dadka.

Because the Internet has fashioned

waayo internetka waxa uu dhisay

a new and complicated environment

Deegaan cusub oo adag

for an old-age dilemma

ee dabinadii hore

that pits the demands of security

kaasoo si xooga ah u raadinaayay Amni

with the desire for freedom.

xoriyad damacsanaasho ayadoo jirto

Now this is a very complicated struggle.

kaasina waa loolan dhib badan runtii

And unfortunately, for mortals like you and me,

Nasiib xumo, dadka caadiga sideyda iyo sidiinoo kale

we probably can't understand it very well.

waxaa laga yaabaa si fiican in ay u fahmi waayaan

Nonetheless,

sidaa daraadeed

in an unexpected attack of hubris

weerar aanan la filaneyn

a couple of years ago,

dhowr sano kahor

I decided I would try and do that.

waxaan go'aansaday in aniga aan sameeyo

And I sort of get it.

wayna iisuuro gashay in aan sameeyo sidaas si udhaw

These were the various things that I was looking at

waxyaabahan kala duwan ee aan raadinaayay

as I was trying to understand it.

waxaana isku daayay in aan fahmo

But in order to try and explain the whole thing,

laakiin arinka dhan hadii aan isku dayo in aan sharaxo

I would need another 18 minutes or so to do it,

waxaan ubaahanahay 18 daqiiqo kale ama wax u dhaw si aan u sameeyo

so you're just going to have to take it on trust from me on this occasion,

markaasna waad igu kalsoonaaneysaa munaasabadaan dhexdeeda

and let me assure you that all of these issues

aan idiin xaqiijiyo in masaa'ishaan dhan

are involved in cybersecurity and control of the Internet

ay ku xariirto amaanka iyo maamulida internetka

one way or the other,

hal wado ama wado kale

but in a configuration

lkn sameynta

that even Stephen Hawking would probably have difficulty

in Stephen Hawkin xataa uu dhib wajahay

trying to get his head around.

markuu isku dayay in uu fahmo

So there you are.

Hagaag, soo dhawaada

And as you see, in the middle,

sidaa ujeedaan, dhexda

there is our old friend, the hacker.

waa kan Saaxiibkeenii hore, ''Waxjabiyaha''

The hacker is absolutely central

Qofka wax jabsada gebi ahaan meel dhexe ayuu dhacaa

to many of the political, social

mas'alooyin badan, oo siyaasada iyo kuwa bulshada ah

and economic issues affecting the Net.

iyo kuwa dhaqaalaha ee saameysa Internetka

And so I thought to myself,

sidaa darteed waxaan is dhahay

"Well, these are the guys who I want to talk to."

''Hagaag, kuwaani waa dadka aan rabo in aan la hadlo''

And what do you know,

sidaa ogtihiin

nobody else does talk to the hackers.

qof kale oo la hadlo majiro dadkaan wax jabsada

They're completely anonymous, as it were.

waayo lama yaqaano, sidee xaalada eheed

So despite the fact

iyo sida ay xaqiiqda tahay

that we are beginning to pour billions,

waxaan bilaawnay in Balaayiin aan ku bixino

hundreds of billions of dollars,

Boqolaal bilyan oo Dollar

into cybersecurity --

amaanka Internetka

for the most extraordinary technical solutions --

Xalalka Teknoolajiyo ee ugu fiican darteed

no one wants to talk

majiro qof rabo in uu la hadlo

to these guys, the hackers,

dadkaan waxjabsada

who are doing everything.

ee wax walba sameeya

Instead, we prefer these really dazzling technological solutions,

taas badalkeedana, waxaan doorbidnay xalalka Teknoolajiyo ee soo ifaaya

which cost a huge amount of money.

taasoo lacago badan ay ku baxaan

And so nothing is going into the hackers.

mida xigta, qof ku dhaqaaqaaya dadkaan waxjabsadana majiro

Well, I say nothing,

Hagaag, waxaan leeyahay, waxna

but actually there is one teeny weeny little research unit

laakiin xaqiiqdii waxaa jirto qolo xubin yar ah oo wax baarta

in Turin, Italy

ee Turin, Italy joogto

called the Hackers Profiling Project.

waxaana loogu yeeraa, ''Mashruuca ogaashada nolol shakhsiyeedyada dadka wax jabsada''

And they are doing some fantastic research

waxayna sameeyaan baaritaano waa weyn

into the characteristics,

dabeecadaha dadka wax jabsada

into the abilities

awoodooda

and the socialization of hackers.

iyo sida ay bulshada ugu dhexnoolyihiin

But because they're a U.N. operation,

laakiin maadaama ay tahay howl, U.Nka hoos timaada

maybe that's why governments and corporations

taasi waxaa laga yaabaa in ay tahay sababta dowladaha iyo shirkadaha

are not that interested in them.

aysan u daneyneen.

Because it's a U.N. operation,

maxaa yeelay waa waa howl U.Nka taabacsan

of course, it lacks funding.

marka lacag kubixin ma heysato

But I think they're doing very important work.

laakiin waxaan aaminsanahay in ay hayaan howl muhiim ah

Because where we have a surplus of technology

maxaa yeelay markii ay jirto wax Teknoolajiyada kusoo furma

in the cybersecurity industry,

ee sameynta warshadaha amaanka Internetka

we have a definite lack of --

markaas tabar uma yeelan doono

call me old-fashioned --

-- iigu yeera in aan Style-kii hore kutaaganahay --

human intelligence.

ee caqliga bini aadamka

Now, so far I've mentioned

waxaan sheegay ilaa iyo hada

the hackers Anonymous

kooxaha wax jabsada ee aan la aqoon

who are a politically motivated hacking group.

ahna koox burcad ah oo siyaasada u dhaqdhaqaaqa

Of course, the criminal justice system

Dabcan, Nidaamka cadaalada waxa uu kula dhaqmaa

treats them as common old garden criminals.

in ay yihiin danbiilayaal faafsan

But interestingly,

lkn si xiiso leh

Anonymous does not make use of its hacked information

kooxdaani ogama faa'iideesato macluumaadka ay jabsadaan

for financial gain.

in ay lacag ku helaan

But what about the real cybercriminals?

laakiin waa sidee burcada internetka ee xaqiiqda ah

Well real organized crime on the Internet

Hagaag, Danbiyada la soo nidaamiyo ee Netka kadhaca

goes back about 10 years

waxay soo bilaabatay 10kii sano ee lasoo dhaafay

when a group of gifted Ukrainian hackers

markii koox Yukreeniyiin ah oo waxjabinta heybad uleh

developed a website,

ay hormariyeen Bog internetka korkiisa

which led to the industrialization

kaasoo sababay in loo badalo tuugnimada netka

of cybercrime.

warshad tuugo

Welcome to the now forgotten realm of CarderPlanet.

Kusoo dhawaada caalamka la hilmaamay ee ''CarderPlanet''

This is how they were advertising themselves

waa wadada ay naftooda ku xayaysiin jireen

a decade ago on the Net.

Tobankii sano ee lasoo dhaafay Internetka korkiisa

Now CarderPlanet was very interesting.

CarderPlanet-na aad ayaa loo xiiseyn jiray

Cybercriminals would go there

halkaas ayay aadi jireen burcada Internetka

to buy and sell stolen credit card details,

si ay usoo iibsadaan macluumaadka Kaarar bangiyeedyada lasoo xaday

to exchange information

si ay macluumaadka u kala badashaan

about new malware that was out there.

barnaamij cusub oo kambiyuutarka lagu burburin karo

And remember, this is a time

xasuusta, waqtigaas waxay eheed

when we're seeing for the first time

markii ugu horeysay ee aan aragnay

so-called off-the-shelf malware.

waxyaabaha lagu magacaabo barnaamijyadaan wasaqeesan

This is ready for use, out-of-the-box stuff,

waxyaabo u diyaarsan in la isticmaalo, aadna u sareeya, aadna u habeysan

which you can deploy

ay suuro gal tahay in la fidiyo

even if you're not a terribly sophisticated hacker.

xataa hadii aadan eheen qof si hormarsan oo laga cabsanaayo wax ujabsan kara

And so CarderPlanet became a sort of supermarket

sidaa darteed CarderPlanet waxa uu noqday sida Bakhaar

for cybercriminals.

ay leeyihiin burcada Internetka

And its creators

dadka sameeyayna waxay ahaayeen

were incredibly smart and entrepreneurial,

dad si aan la rumeysan karin u caqli badan

because they were faced

maxaa yeelay waxay wajaheen

with one enormous challenge as cybercriminals.

caqabado weyn, sida Burcada Internetka

And that challenge is:

Caqabadaasina waa

How do you do business,

sida aad oga ganacsaneysid

how do you trust

sida aad ugu kalsoonaaneysid

somebody on the Web who you want to do business with

qof internetka isticmaala oo aad wax kala iibsan rabtaa

when you know that they're a criminal?

marka aad ogtahay in uu tuugyahay qofkaas

(Laughter)

(Qosal)

It's axiomatic that they're dodgy,

way iska cadahay in ay Qiyaanoolayaal

and they're going to want to try and rip you off.

iskuna dayaaya in ay ku xadaan

So the family, as the inner core of CarderPlanet was known,

Sidaa darteed qoyska waxay la imaadeen, sidey macruufka ku ahaayeen xarunta dhexe ee CarderPlanet

came up with this brilliant idea

fikradaani caqliga badan

called the escrow system.

ay ubixyeen Hab Damaano qaad ah

They appointed an officer

waxay sameeyeen ''Sargaal''- Masuul

who would mediate between the vendor and the purchaser.

dhexdhexaad ka noqonaaya qofka wax iibsanaaya iyo kan laga iibinaayo

The vendor, say, had stolen credit card details;

hadii aan dhahno, qofka wax iibinaayo waxa uu soo xaday kaar bangiyeed

the purchaser wanted to get a hold of them.

uuna rabo qofkaan wax iibsanaayo in uu gacanta ku dhigo

The purchaser would send the administrative officer

qofka wax iibsanaayo Sargaalka ayuu waxa uu u dirayaa

some dollars digitally,

dhowr Dollar si Digital ah

and the vendor would sell the stolen credit card details.

qofka wax iibinaayayne markaas waxa uu bixinayaa Tafaasiisha kaarkii uu soo xaday

And the officer would then verify

markaas kadib ayuu Sargaalka xaqiijinayaa

if the stolen credit card worked.

in kaarka lasoo xaday uu shaqeynaayo

And if they did,

hadii ay sameeyaan.

he then passed on the money to the vendor

lacagtii waxa uu udirayaa qofkii wax iibinaayay

and the stolen credit card details to the purchaser.

Kaarka Tafaasiishana qofkii wax iibsaday

And it was this

arinkaasina waxa uu ahaa

which completely revolutionized cybercrime on the Web.

wax dhaliyay kacdoon weyn ee Falalka danbiyada Internetka

And after that, it just went wild.

markaas kadibna toos ayuu arinkii duurka u galay

We had a champagne decade

waxayna eheed Toban sano oo dabaaldegyo ah

for people who we know as Carders.

dadka loo yaqaano kaarar Jabsadayaasha

Now I spoke to one of these Carders

mid kamid ah ayaan la hadlay

who we'll call RedBrigade --

oo aan hada ugu yeereeno RedBrigade (Janaraalkii Casaa)

although that wasn't even his proper nickname --

inkastoo naaneystiisa dhabta ah aysan eheen

but I promised I wouldn't reveal who he was.

lkn waxaan balan qaaday in aanan sheegin asiga

And he explained to me how in 2003 and 2004

waxa uu ii sharaxay sida sanadihii 2003 iyo 2004

he would go on sprees in New York,

uu si baashaal ah ku aadi jiray New York

taking out $10,000 from an ATM here,

uuna 10kun oo Dollar oga soo baxsan jiray makiinada lacagta lagala baxo ee halkaan

$30,000 from an ATM there,

30kun kale makiinada lacagta lagala baxo ee halkaas

using cloned credit cards.

asigoo isticmaalaayo kaarar koobi ah

He was making, on average a week,

waxa uuna heli jiray

$150,000 --

150 kun Dollar isbuucii

tax free of course.

-- Canshuur aanan saarneyn --

And he said

waxa uu dhahay

that he had so much money

in uu heestay lacago badan

stashed in his upper-East side apartment at one point

uuna ku qarin jiray qeybta bari ee kore ee gurigiisa

that he just didn't know what to do with it

uusana ogeyn waxa uu ku sameynaayo

and actually fell into a depression.

xaqiiqdii, xaalada welwel leh ayuu kujiray

But that's a slightly different story,

laakin taasi wa sheeko ka duwan xoogaa

which I won't go into now.

kumana sii dheeraanaayo hada

Now the interesting thing about RedBrigade

hagaag, qeybta muhiimka ah ee ''RedBrigade'' Janaraalkii Casaa

is that he wasn't an advanced hacker.

waxa waaye, ma uusan eheen qof sida wax loo jabsado ku dheereeya

He sort of understood the technology,

waxa uu fahmay Teknoolajiyada

and he realized that security was very important

waxa uuna ogaaday in Amaanka uu muhuum yahay hadii

if you were going to be a Carder,

aad rabtid in aad noqotid dadka kaararka Jabsada.

but he didn't spend his days and nights

lkn kuma uusan dhameysaneyn habeenkiisa iyo maalintiisa dhan

bent over a computer, eating pizza,

Kambiyuutarka in uu kor fadhiyo, Pizzana uu cuno

drinking coke and that sort of thing.

kooka cabo, iyo wixii lamid ah

He was out there on the town

magaalada ayuu joogi jiray

having a fab time enjoying the high life.

waqti fiican ayuu ku qaadan jiray, asigoo ku raaxeysanaayo noloshaas hodanka ah

And this is because

kani, maxaa yeelay

hackers are only one element

dadka wax jabsada waxay matalaan hal dhinac

in a cybercriminal enterprise.

oo danbiyada Internetka ah

And often they're the most vulnerable element of all.

caado ahaana waxa ay noqdaan, waxa ugu daciifsan

And I want to explain this to you

waxaan rabaa in aan idiin cadeeyo taas

by introducing you to six characters

anigoo idin baraayo 6 qof

who I met

aan lakulmay

while I was doing this research.

intii aan baaritaankaas ka shaqeynaayay

Dimitry Golubov, aka SCRIPT --

Dimitry Golubov oo kumagac dheer ''SCRIPT''

born in Odessa, Ukraine in 1982.

waxa uu ku dhashay, Odessa, Ukraine 1982

Now he developed his social and moral compass

waxa uu hormariyay Jiheeyihiisa bulsho iyo maskax

on the Black Sea port during the 1990s.

ee dekada Bada Madoow sanadihii sagaashameeyadii

This was a sink-or-swim environment

waxayna tani eheed Deegaan nolol ama geeri

where involvement in criminal or corrupt activities

meesha lug ku lahaanshada falalka danbiyeed iyo qalalaase

was entirely necessary

ay daruuri ka eheed

if you wanted to survive.

hadii aad rabtid in aad badbaado

As an accomplished computer user,

Kambiyuutarka uu ku xeel dheeraa darteed

what Dimitry did

Dimitry waxa uu sameeyay

was to transfer the gangster capitalism of his hometown

in uu ku xawilo Burcada Magaaladiisa Ra'sumaalkooda

onto the Worldwide Web.

Internetka korkiisa

And he did a great job in it.

howl weyn ayuuna qabtay

You have to understand though

waa in aad fahantaan

that from his ninth birthday,

in sagaal sano jirkiisa

the only environment he knew

deegaanka kaliya uu yaqaanay

was gangsterism.

uu ahaa Burcadnimada

He knew no other way of making a living

ma uusan aqoon wado kale uu noloshiisa kusoo dhacsado

and making money.

lacagna ku sameeyo

Then we have Renukanth Subramaniam,

''Kaas kadib'' waxaan heynaa Renukanth Subramaniam

aka JiLsi --

oo kumagac dheer JiLsi

founder of DarkMarket,

ninkii dhisay Suuqa Madoow

born in Colombo, Sri Lanka.

waxa uu ku dhashay Colombo, Siri Lanka

As an eight year-old,

sanadiisii 8aad

he and his parents fled the Sri Lankan capital

asiga iyo aabihiisa waxay kasoo carareen caasimada Siri Lanka

because Singhalese mobs were roaming the city,

maxaa yeelay burcada Singhalese ayaa magaalada ku wareegeysay

looking for Tamils like Renu to murder.

ayagoo raadinaaya ''dad Tamil ah'' sida Reno cml si ay u dilaan

At 11, he was interrogated by the Sri Lankan military,

sanadiisii 11aad, waxaa su'aalo weydiiyay Militariga Sri Lanka

accused of being a terrorist,

ayagoo ku tuhmeen argagaxisanimo

and his parents sent him on his own to Britain

waalidkiisa ayaa ingiriiska usoo direen kaligiis

as a refugee seeking political asylum.

Qaxooti magan galyo doon ah camal

At 13,

sanadiisii 13aad

with only little English and being bullied at school,

Englishkiisa yaraa iyo culeeska uu iskoolka kala kulmaayay

he escaped into a world of computers

waxa uu u cararay caalamka Kambiyuutarada

where he showed great technical ability,

meeshaasuu ku muujiyay awoodo farsamo oo waa weyn

but he was soon being seduced

lkn si fudud ayaa loo dhumiyay

by people on the Internet.

dad internetka isticmaala ayaana dhumiyeen

He was convicted of mortgage and credit card fraud,

waxaa lagu eedeeyay sharad in uu ku gali jiray guryaha, iyo kaarar bangiyeed bug ah uu sameeyn jiray.

and he will be released from Wormwood Scrubs jail in London

waxaana laga soo deyn doonaa xabsiga Wormwood Scrubs ee London kuyaala

in 2012.

2012

Matrix001,

Matrix001

who was an administrator at DarkMarket.

kaasoo maamule ka ahaa suuqa madoow

Born in Southern Germany

waxa uu kudhashay Koonfurta Jarmalka

to a stable and well-respected middle class family,

qoys iska dhaqan oo ixtiraam fiican ka heysta bulshada heerka dhexe

his obsession with gaming as a teenager

uleexashadiisa dhanka game markii uu yaraa

led him to hacking.

ayaa ujiiday dhanka burcadnimada

And he was soon controlling huge servers around the world

si fududna waxa uu noqday qof maamula kambiyuutaro badan aduunka daafihiisa

where he stored his games

meeshaasuu ku keydsaday Games-kiisa

that he had cracked and pirated.

taasoo hadana uu sii burcadeeyay, furayaasheedana jabiyay

His slide into criminality

sidaas ayuuna ugu siqay danbiyada

was incremental.

si tartiib ah

And when he finally woke up to his situation

markii uu soo baraarugayne

and understood the implications,

uu saameyntiisana ogaaday

he was already in too deep.

waxa uu ahaa mid xili horey ku quusay arinkaas

Max Vision, aka ICEMAN --

Max Vision oo ku magac dheer Ninkii Barafka

mastermind of CardersMarket.

caqliga maamula suuqa dadka jabsada kaararka bangiyada

Born in Meridian, Idaho.

waxa uu ku dhashay Meridian, Idaho

Max Vision was one of the best penetration testers

Max Vision waxa uu ka mid ahaa dadkii ugu fiicnaa kuwa tijaabiya waxyaabaha la jabsado

working out of Santa Clara, California

waxa uu ka shaqeyn jiray banaanka Santa Clara, California

in the late 90s for private companies

dhamaadkii sagaashameeyadii shirkado khaas ah

and voluntarily for the FBI.

si tabarucaad ahna FBI-da

Now in the late 1990s,

dhamaadkii sagaashameeyadii

he discovered a vulnerability

waxa uu ogaaday meesha ya ka daciifsanyihiin

on all U.S. government networks,

dhamaan shabakadaha xukuumada mareekanka

and he went in and patched it up --

wuuna jabsaday

because this included nuclear research facilities --

maxaa yeelay waxay ka koobneed, Cilmi baarisyo Nuugliyeer sameyn

sparing the American government

asigoo ka fogeynaayo xukuumada mareekanka

a huge security embarrassment.

dhaawac amni oo weyn

But also, because he was an inveterate hacker,

laakiin sidoo kale, waxa uu ahaa qof waxjabsada oo madax adag

he left a tiny digital wormhole

waxa uu ka tagay duleelo Digital ah oo weyn

through which he alone could crawl.

oo kiligiis uu dhaqaajin karo

But this was spotted by an eagle-eye investigator,

lkn arinkaas waxaa kashifay baarayaasha Eagle-eye la dhaho

and he was convicted.

waana la eedeeyay

At his open prison,

intii uu kujiray xabsigiisii furnaa

he came under the influence of financial fraudsters,

waxa soo jiitay dadka lacagaha dhaca

and those financial fraudsters

kuwaasi

persuaded him to work for them

waxay ku qanciyeen in uu la shaqeeyo ayaga

on his release.

marka lasoo daayo

And this man with a planetary-sized brain

ninkaani leh caqli jiniyeed-ka

is now serving a 13-year sentence

waxa uu qaadanayaa 13 sano xabsi ah

in California.

magaalada California

Adewale Taiwo, aka FreddyBB --

Adewale Taiwo, oo ku magacdheer FeddyBB

master bank account cracker

waa xisaab banki jabsade qatar ah

from Abuja in Nigeria.

Abuja, Nigeria, kasoo jeeda

He set up his prosaically entitled newsgroup,

waxa uuna sameeyay kooxdiisii la baxday Akhbaarta Xanuunka badan

[email protected]

[email protected]

before arriving in Britain

inta uusan Ingiriiska imaanin

in 2005

2005

to take a Masters in chemical engineering

si uu Master uga helo, chemical engineering

at Manchester University.

Jaamacada Manchester

He impressed in the private sector,

waxa uu aad usoo jiitay hey'adaha Khaaska ah

developing chemical applications for the oil industry

asigoo hormariya Barnaamijyo kiimiko ah ee warshadaha Batroolka

while simultaneously running

isla waqtigaasna waxa uu madax u ahaa

a worldwide bank and credit card fraud operation that was worth millions

howlo lagu dhaco bangiyada aduunka dhan daafihiisa oo malaayiina la ekeed

until his arrest in 2008.

ilaa laga xiro sanadii 2008

And then finally, Cagatay Evyapan,

ugu danbeyn Cagatay Evyapan

aka Cha0 --

oo ku magacdheer Cha0

one of the most remarkable hackers ever,

mid kamid ah kuwa ugu macruufsan dadka wax jabsada

from Ankara in Turkey.

kana soo jeedo, Anqara, Turkiya

He combined the tremendous skills of a geek

waxa uu isku darsaday, xirfadaha qof kambiyuutar ku xeel dheer

with the suave social engineering skills

iyo xirfada caqliyeenta social engineering-ka

of the master criminal.

ee qof tuug xeel dheere ah uu lahaado

One of the smartest people I've ever met.

mid kamid ah dadkii ugu caqliga badna ee aan abid la kulmo

He also had the most effective

waxaa kaloo uu heystay hababka amni ee ugu saameynta badan

virtual private network security arrangement

ee shirkado khaas ah

the police have ever encountered

ee booliiska ka horyimaada abid

amongst global cybercriminals.

burcada internetka caalamiga ah dhexdooda

Now the important thing

arinka muhiimka ah hada

about all of these people

ee dadkaasi dhan

is they share certain characteristics

waxa waaye, waxay ka simanyihiin waxyaabo dhowr ah

despite the fact that they come from very different environments.

inkastoo xaqiiq ahaan ee deegaan kala duwan kasoo jeedaan

They are all people who learned their hacking skills

laakiin kuligood waxay barteen howlaha waxjabsiga

in their early to mid-teens.

intii ay aadka u yaraayeen

They are all people

dhamaantoodna

who demonstrate advanced ability

waxay muujiyeen awoodo horumarsan

in maths and the sciences.

xaga xisaabaatka iyo sayniska

Remember that, when they developed those hacking skills,

xasuusta, markii ay hormariyeen howlaha waxjabsi ay heesteen

their moral compass had not yet developed.

ma uusan hormarsaneyn jiheeyahooda maskaxeed weli

And most of them, with the exception of SCRIPT and Cha0,

dhamaantood markii laga reebo ''SCRIPT'' iyo ''Cha0''

they did not demonstrate

ma aysan muujinin

any real social skills in the outside world --

xirfado bulsho caalamka kale ee banaanka ah

only on the Web.

kaliya Internetka gudihiisa

And the other thing is

arinka ugu danbeeyana waa

the high incidence of hackers like these

soo badashada tirada dadka waxjabsada sidaas oo kale

who have characteristics which are consistent

waxay leeyihiin tilmaamo lamid ah

with Asperger's syndrome.

Asperger Syndrome

Now I discussed this

arinkaasna waxaan kala xaajooday

with Professor Simon Baron-Cohen

Professor Simon Baron-Cohen

who's the professor of developmental psychopathology at Cambridge.

oo ah macalim Horumarinta cilmi nafsiga ka dhiga Cambridge

And he has done path-breaking work on autism

waxa uuna qabtay howl sare oo ku saabsan kalinimada

and confirmed, also for the authorities here,

waxa uuna u cadeeyay madaxda halkaan

that Gary McKinnon --

in Gary McKinnon

who is wanted by the United States

oo ahaa nin ay mareekanka raadsanayeen

for hacking into the Pentagon --

oo jabsaday Pentagon-ka (wasaarada Gaashaandhiga mareekanka)

suffers from Asperger's

in uu qabay Asperger

and a secondary condition

iyo xaalad welwel ah

of depression.

oo sare

And Baron-Cohen explained

waxa uu sharaxay Baron-Cohen

that certain disabilities

in cudurada qaar

can manifest themselves in the hacking and computing world

ay suuro gal tahay ineey kasoo muuqdaan caalamka Kambiyuutarada iyo wax jabsiga

as tremendous skills,

ayagoo u muuqda xirfado gaar ah

and that we should not be throwing in jail

anagana waajib naguma aha in aan xabsi kutuurno

people who have such disabilities and skills

dad qaba cuduradaas iyo xirfadahaas

because they have lost their way socially

maadaama ay ka dhumeen hab bulsho la dhaqankoodii

or been duped.

ama la qiyaanay

Now I think we're missing a trick here,

waxaan aaminsanahay in aynu weysanahay xeelad halkaan

because I don't think people like Max Vision should be in jail.

waayo ma aaminsani, dad sida Max Vision in ay xabsi galaan

And let me be blunt about this.

aano ku dhagnaado arinkaan

In China, in Russia and in loads of other countries

Shiinaha, Ruushka, iyo dowlada kale oo badan

that are developing cyber-offensive capabilities,

taasoo ay gaaraan howlo wax jabsi ah

this is exactly what they are doing.

sidaan ayay sameeyaan

They are recruiting hackers

ciidan ayay ka dhigaan dadkaas wax jabsada

both before and after they become involved

inta aysan arinkaas lug ku yeelan kahor iyo kadiba

in criminal and industrial espionage activities --

danbiyo iyo howlo jaajuusnimo

are mobilizing them

way qalabeeyaan

on behalf of the state.

ayagoo dowlada matalaaya

We need to engage

waa in aan la wadaagnaa

and find ways of offering guidance

aana helno wado aan ku hanuunin karno

to these young people,

dhalinyaradaasi

because they are a remarkable breed.

maxaa yeelay waa ubad lataabankaro waxqabadkooda

And if we rely, as we do at the moment,

hadii aan ku tiirsanaan leheen sida aan hada sameyneeno

solely on the criminal justice system

nidaamka cadaalada kalinimo

and the threat of punitive sentences,

iyo ciqaabaha dhaqan celin ee loogu goodinaayo

we will be nurturing a monster we cannot tame.

waxaan ogaaneynaa in aan korinay Bahal eynaan carbin karin

Thank you very much for listening.

waad mahadsantihiin sida aad ii dhageysateen

(Applause)

(Sacab)

Chris Anderson: So your idea worth spreading

Chris Anderson: hagaag fikradaada way mudantahay in la fidiyo

is hire hackers.

oo ah in lasoo kiraysto dadka waxjabsada

How would someone get over that kind of fear

siduu qof ugu bareeri karaa cabsidaas

that the hacker they hire

qofka waxjabsanaayo ee uu isticmaalaayo

might preserve that little teensy wormhole?

ay macquul tahay in uu keydsado duleeladaasi yaryarka ah ee dhunsan?

MG: I think to an extent,

MG: ilaa iyo xad waxaan aaminsanahay

you have to understand

in aad fahanto

that it's axiomatic among hackers that they do that.

in ay iska cadahay in ay sameeyaan sidaas

They're just relentless and obsessive

waayo naxariis malaha, waswaasna way ka qabaan

about what they do.

waxa ay sameenayaan

But all of the people who I've spoken to

lkn dhamaan kuwaan la hadlay

who have fallen foul of the law,

kuwaaso qaanuunka u dhacay

they have all said, "Please, please give us a chance

waxay dhamaan dheheen: ''Fadlan fursad nasiiya''

to work in the legitimate industry.

aan ka shaqeyno wax soo saar sharciyeesan

We just never knew how to get there, what we were doing.

ee aynaan ogeen awal, sida loo gaaro, iyo waxa la sameeyo

We want to work with you."

waxaan rabnaa in aan idinla shaqeyno

Chris Anderson: Okay, well that makes sense. Thanks a lot Misha.

Chris Anderson: Okay, taasi waa wax macquul ah, Mahadsanid Misha.

(Applause)

(Sacab)