Yoav Medan: Ultrasound surgery -- healing without cuts

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Translator: Lenka Tušar Reviewer: Tilen Pigac - EFZG
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Over the last 13 years --
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Zadnjih trinajst let,
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one, three, 13 years --
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ena - tri, trinajst let,
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I've been part of an exceptional team at InSightec in Israel
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sem bil del izjemne ekipe izraelskega zdravstvenega podjetja
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and partners around the world
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InSightec in partnerjev po vsem svetu,
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for taking this idea, this concept,
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s katerimi smo želeli idejo oz. koncept
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noninvasive surgery,
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neinvazivnega kirurškega posega
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from the research lab to routine clinical use.
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prenesti iz raziskovalnih laboratorijev v klinično prakso.
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And this is what I'll tell you about.
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O tem vam bom danes pripovedoval.
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13 years --
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Trinajst let --
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for some of you, you can empathize with that number.
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nekateri bi z mano sočustvovali.
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For me, today, on this date,
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Jaz pa danes, na ta dan,
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it's like a second bar mitzvah experience.
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praznujem nekakšno drugo bar micvo.
00:43
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:46
So this dream
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Te sanje
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is really enabled
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smo uresničili
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by the convergence
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z združitvijo
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of two known technologies.
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dveh znanih tehnologij.
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One is the focused ultrasound,
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Ena je usmerjen ultrazvok,
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and the other one is the
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druga pa
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vision-enabled magnetic resonance imaging.
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magnetna resonanca z vizualnim predstavljanjem.
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So let's first talk about focused ultrasound.
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Začnimo z usmerjenim ultrazvokom.
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And I hold in my hand
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V roki držim model,
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a tissue-mimicking phantom.
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ki prikazuje tkivo,
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It is made out of silicon.
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narejen iz silikona.
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It is transparent, made just for you.
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Je prozoren in izdelan prav za vas.
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So you see, it's all intact,
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Kot vidite, je čist
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completely transparent.
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in popolnoma prozoren.
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I'll take you now to the acoustic lab.
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Sedaj vas bom popeljal v akustični laboratorij.
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You see the phantom within the aquarium.
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Tu vidite ta model v akvariju,
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This is a setup I put in a physics lab.
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gre pa za postavitev v fizikalnem laboratoriju.
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On the right-hand side,
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Na desni strani vidite
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you see an ultrasonic transducer.
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ultrazvočni prevodnik.
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So the ultrasonic transducer
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Ta ultrazvočni prevodnik
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emits basically an ultrasonic beam
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oddaja ultrazvočni signal,
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that focuses inside the phantom.
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ki se fokusira znotraj silikonskega modela.
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Okay, when you hear the click,
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Ko zaslišite klik,
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this is when the energy starts to emit
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se začne oddajati energija
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and you see a little lesion form
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in vidite majhno sled,
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inside the phantom.
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poškodbo znotraj modela.
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Okay, so everything around it
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Vse okrog nje
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is whole and intact.
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pa je ostalo celo in nedotaknjeno.
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It's just a lesion formed inside.
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Poškodba tkiva je nastala le v notranjosti.
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So think about, this is in your brain.
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Zamislite si, da so to vaši možgani
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We need to reach a target inside the brain.
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in mi moramo doseči točko znotraj njih.
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We can do it without harming any tissue.
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To lahko storimo ne da bi poškodovali ostalo tkivo.
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So this is, I think,
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To je torej po mojem mnenju
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the first kosher Hippocratic surgical system.
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prvi Hipokratov košer operacijski sistem.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:13
Okay, so let's talk a little bit about ultrasound,
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Naj povem nekaj stvari o ultrazvoku,
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the force of ultrasound.
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o moči ultrazvoka.
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You know all about imaging, right, ultrasound imaging.
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Vsi poznate ultrazvočne posnetke, kajne?
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And you know also about lithotripsy --
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Poznate tudi litotripsijo,
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breaking kidney stones.
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metodo drobljenja ledvičnih kamnov.
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But ultrasound can be shaped
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A ultrazvok lahko predstavlja
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to be anything in between,
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še marsikaj drugega,
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because it's a mechanical force.
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saj gre za mehansko silo.
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Basically, it's a force acting on a tissue
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V osnovi ta sila vpliva na vlakno,
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that it transverses.
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na katerega je usmerjena.
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So you can change the intensity, the frequency,
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Spreminjamo lahko jakost, frekvenco,
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the duration, the pulse shape of the ultrasound
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trajanje, obliko ultrazvočnega signala
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to create anything
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in tako ustvarimo karkoli,
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from an airbrush to a hammer.
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od airbrusha do kladiva.
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And I am going to show you
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Pokazal vam bom
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multiple applications in the medical field
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različne možnosti uporabe v medicini,
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that can be enabled
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ki jih omogoča
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just by focusing,
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zgolj fokusiranje,
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physically focusing.
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fizično fokusiranje.
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So this idea
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Ta koncept uporabe usmerjenega ultrazvoka
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of harnessing focused ultrasound to treat lesions in the brain
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za zdravljenje možganskih okvar
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is not new at all.
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pa sploh ni nov.
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When I was born, this idea was already conceived
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Ko sem se rodil, so se s to idejo že ukvarjali
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by pioneers such as the Fry brothers
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pionirji, kot sta brata Fry
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and Lars Leksell,
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in Lars Leksell,
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who is know actually
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danes znan kot
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as the inventor of the gammaknife.
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izumitelj gama noža.
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But you may not know
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Morda pa niste vedeli,
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that he tried to perform lobotomies in the brain,
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da je v petdesetih letih poskušal izvajati
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noninvasively,
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možgansko lobotomijo na neinvaziven način
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with focused ultrasound in the '50s.
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z usmerjenim ultrazvokom.
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He failed,
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Ni mu uspelo,
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so he then invented the gammaknife.
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je pa kasneje izumil gama nož.
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And it makes you ponder
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To da človeku misliti,
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why those pioneers failed.
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zakaj tem pionirjem ni uspelo.
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And there was something fundamental
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Manjkalo jim je
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that they were missing.
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nekaj bistvenega.
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They were missing the vision.
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Manjkala jim je vizija.
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It wasn't until the invention of the MR
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Šele z odkritjem slikanja
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and really the integration of MR
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z magnetno resonanco (MRI)
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with focused ultrasound
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in njeno združitvijo z usmerjenim ultrazvokom
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that we could get the feedback --
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smo dobili odziv,
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both the anatomical and the physiological
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tako anatomski kot fiziološki,
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in order to have a completely noninvasive, closed-loop
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in tako ustvarili popolnoma neinvaziven,
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surgical procedure.
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zaprtozančni kirurški poseg.
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So this is how it looks, you know,
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Tako je torej danes videti
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the operating room of the future today.
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operacijska soba prihodnosti.
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This is an MR suite with a focused ultrasound system.
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To je prostor za MRI s sistemom usmerjenega ultrazvoka.
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And I will give you several examples.
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Dal vam bom nekaj primerov.
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So the first one is in the brain.
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Začnimo z možgani.
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One of the neurological conditions
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Ena od nevroloških okvar,
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that can be treated with focused ultrasound
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ki jo lahko na tak način zdravimo,
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are movement disorders,
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so motnje gibanja, kot sta
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like Parkinson's or essential tremor.
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Parkinsonova bolezen ali esencialni tremor (ET)
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What is typical to those conditions,
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Za take motnje, kot na primer
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to essential tremor for example,
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pri esencialnem tremorju, je značilno,
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is inability
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da bolnik ne zmore
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to drink or eat cereal or soup
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piti ali jesti juhe ali kosmičev,
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without spilling everything all over you,
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ne da bi se polil,
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or write legibly so people can understand it,
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ali pisati dovolj čitljivo, da bi lahko za njim brali,
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and be really independent in your life
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oz. biti v življenju neodvisen
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without the help of others.
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in živeti brez pomoči okolice.
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So I'd like you to meet John.
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Predstavljam vam Johna.
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John is a retired professor of history
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John je upokojeni profesor zgodovine
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from Virginia.
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iz Virginie.
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So he suffered from essential tremor for many years.
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Esencialni tremor ga je zaznamoval mnogo let,
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And medication didn't help him anymore.
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zdravila pa mu niso več pomagala.
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And many of those patients refused to undergo surgery
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Veliko takšnih bolnikov je zavrnilo operacijo,
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to have people cut into their brain.
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saj niso želeli posegov na možganih.
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And about four or five months ago,
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Pred štirimi ali petimi meseci
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he underwent an experimental procedure.
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pa je John sodeloval v poskusnem postopku.
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It is approved under an FDAIDE
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Uporabo postopka v raziskovalne namene
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at the University of Virginia
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je odobril odbor Ministrstva za zdravje
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in Charlottesville
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na virginijski univerzi v Charlottesvillu,
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using focused ultrasound
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in tako smo z usmerjenim ultrazvokom
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to ablate a point in his thalamus.
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uničili delček tkiva v njegovem talamusu.
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And this is his handwriting.
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To je njegova pisava.
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"On June 20th," if you can read it,
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"Dvajsetega junija," če lahko preberete,
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"2011."
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"leta 2011".
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This is his handwriting
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To je njegova pisava
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on the morning of the treatment
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na jutro posega,
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before going into the MR
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pred vstopom v prostor za MRI.
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So now I'll take you through
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Pokazal vam bom,
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[what] a typical procedure like that looks like,
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kako deluje tak tipičen postopek
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[what] noninvasive surgery looks like.
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oz. neinvazivni kirurški poseg.
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So we put the patient on the MR table.
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Pacient leži na mizi za slikanje z magnetno resonanco.
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We attach a transducer, in this case, to the brain,
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V tem primeru prevodnik usmerimo na možgane,
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but if it will be a different organ,
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če pa bi šlo za drug organ,
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it will be a different transducer attached to the patient.
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bi uporabili tudi drugačen prevodnik.
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And the physician
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Zdravnik nato opravi
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will then take a regular MR scan.
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običajno slikanje z magnetno resonanco.
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And the objective of that?
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Kaj je cilj tega?
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I don't have a pointer here,
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Ne morem pokazati na sliko,
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but you see the green, sort of rectangle or trapezoid?
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a vseeno lahko vidite zelen trapezoidni okvir.
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This is the sort of general area of the treatment.
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To je nekakšno splošno območje posega.
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It's a safety boundary
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Predstavlja varnostno mejo
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around the target.
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okrog točke, ki jo ciljamo.
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It's a target in the thalamus.
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Ta točka je v talamusu.
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So once those pictures are acquired
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Ko te slike pridobimo
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and the physician has drawn
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in ko zdravnik označi
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all the necessary safety limits and so on,
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vse potrebne varnostne meje,
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he selects basically a point --
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izbere določeno točko --
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you see the round point in the middle where the cursor is --
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okroglo točko v sredini, ki jo označuje puščica --
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and he presses this blue button called "sonicate."
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in pritisne na modro tipko "Soniciraj".
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We call this instance of injecting the energy,
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Ta način injiciranja energije
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we call it sonication.
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imenujemo ultrazvočna sonikacija.
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The only handwork the physician does here
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Edino delo zdravnikovih rok
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is moving a mouse.
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je pri tem premikanje miške.
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This is the only device he needs in this treatment.
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To je edina naprava, s katero upravlja.
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So he presses "sonicate," and this is what happens.
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Ko pritisne "Soniciraj", se zgodi sledeče.
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You see the transducer, the light blue.
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Prevodnik je svetlo modre barve.
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There's water in between the skull and the transducer.
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Med njim in lobanjo je voda.
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And it does this burst of energy.
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Ustvari se izbruh energije,
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It elevates the temperature.
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s čimer temperatura naraste.
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We first need to verify
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Najprej se moramo prepričati,
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that we are on target.
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da imamo pravo točko.
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So the first sonication
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Prva sonikacija
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is at lower energy.
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poteka z nižjo energijo.
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It doesn't do any damage,
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Ne povzroči nobene škode,
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but it elevates the temperature
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pač pa dvigne temperaturo
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by a few degrees.
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za nekaj stopinj.
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And one of the unique capabilities
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Ena od enkratnih sposobnosti,
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that we leverage with the MR
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ki jih dosežemo z magnetno resonanco,
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is the ability to measure temperature noninvasively.
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je neinvazivno merjenje temperature.
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This is really a unique capability of the MR.
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To je enkratna sposobnost magnetne resonance,
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It is not being used
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ki pa se ne uporablja
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in regular diagnostic imaging.
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pri običajnem diagnostičnem slikanju.
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But here we can get
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V našem primeru pa pridobimo anatomsko sliko
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both the anatomical imaging and the temperature maps in real time.
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in temperaturni profil v danem trenutku.
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And you can see the points there on the graph.
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Na grafu lahko vidite točke.
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The temperature was raised
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Temperatura se je dvignila
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to 43 degrees C temporarily.
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na začasnih 43°C.
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This doesn't cause any damage.
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To ne povzroči nobene škode.
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But the point is we are right on target.
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Pomembno pa je, da ciljamo na pravo točko.
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So once the physician verifies
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Ko torej zdravnik potrdi,
07:58
that the focus spot is on the target he has chosen,
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da je točka fokusiranja prava,
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then we move to perform
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se izvede
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a full-energy ablation
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uničenje delčka tkiva s polno močjo,
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like you see here.
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kot vidite tu.
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And you see the temperature rises
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Temperatura se povzpne
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to like 55 to 60 degrees C.
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med 55 in 60 stopinj Celzija.
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If you do it for more than a second,
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Če to traja več kot eno sekundo,
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it's enough to basically destroy
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je jakost dovolj močna, da uniči
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the proteins of the cells.
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celične beljakovine.
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This is the outcome from a patient perspective --
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In to je rezultat s pacientovega stališča
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same day after the treatment.
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še isti dan po posegu.
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This is an immediate relief.
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Gre za takojšnje izboljšanje.
08:29
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
08:34
Thank you.
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Hvala.
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John is one of [about] a dozen
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John je en od okrog ducata
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very heroic, courageous people
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zelo pogumnih, herojskih ljudi,
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who volunteered for the study.
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ki so se javili za sodelovanje v raziskavi.
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And you have to understand
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Treba je razumeti,
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what is in people's mind
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o čem razmišljajo ljudje,
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when they are willing to take the risk.
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ki se odločijo tvegati.
08:52
And this is a quote from John after he wrote it.
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John je, potem ko je znova napisal sporočilo,
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He said, "Miraculous."
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dejal, "Neverjetno."
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And his wife said, "This is the happiest moment of my life."
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Njegova žena je rekla, "To je najsrečnejši trenutek mojega življenja."
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And you wonder why.
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Vprašate se, zakaj.
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I mean, one of the messages I like to carry over
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Eno od sporočil, ki ga želim posredovati,
09:06
is, what about defending quality of life?
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je pomen ohranjanja kakovosti življenja.
09:09
I mean, those people lose their independence.
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Ti ljudje so namreč izgubili svojo samostojnost.
09:11
They are dependent on others.
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Odvisni so od pomoči drugih.
09:13
And John today is fully independent.
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John pa je danes v celoti samostojen
09:16
He returned to a normal life routine.
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in nadaljuje z vsakodnevno rutino.
09:19
And he also plays golf,
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Igra tudi golf,
09:21
like you do in Virginia
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kot običajno počnejo
09:23
when you are retired.
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upokojeni v Virginiji.
09:28
Okay, so you can see here the spot.
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Tu lahko vidite točko.
09:32
It's like three millimeters in the middle of the brain.
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Meri približno tri milimetre v središču možganov.
09:34
There's no damage outside.
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Okrog nje ni poškodb.
09:36
He suffers from no neurodeficit.
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Ni več okvar živčevja.
09:39
There's no recovery needed, no nothing.
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Po posegu ne potrebuje niti okrevanja,
09:42
He's back to his normal life.
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pač pa se vrne v običajno življenje.
09:44
Let's move now
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Poglejmo si sedaj
09:46
to a more painful subject.
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bolj občutljivo področje.
09:48
Pain is something
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Bolečina je nekaj,
09:50
that can make your life miserable.
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kar vam lahko zagreni življenje.
09:52
And people are suffering from all kinds of pain
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Ljudje trpijo zaradi vseh vrst bolečine,
09:54
like neuropathic pain, lower-back pain
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od nevropatske bolečine, bolečine v križu,
09:58
and cancer pain from bone metastases,
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do onkološke bolečine
10:01
when the metastases get to your bones,
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metastaz na kosteh,
10:04
sometimes they are very painful.
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kjer lahko postanejo izjemno boleče.
10:07
All those I've indicated
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Vsi ti tipi bolečin
10:09
have already been shown
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so bili dokazano
10:11
to be successfully treated
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uspešno zdravljeni
10:13
by focused ultrasound
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z usmerjenim ultrazvokom,
10:16
relieving the pain, again, very fast.
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ki je zelo hitro odpravil bolečino.
10:19
And I would like to tell you
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Rad bi vam predstavil še
10:21
about PJ.
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PJ-jev primer.
10:25
He's a 78 year-old farmer
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PJ je 78-letni kmet,
10:29
who suffered from -- how should I say it? --
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ki je imel -- kako naj to povem? --
10:32
it's called pain in the butt.
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bolečino v zadnjici.
10:34
He had metastases in his right buttock,
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Imel je metastaze na desni strani,
10:37
and he couldn't sit
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zaradi česar ni mogel sedeti
10:39
even with medication.
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niti ob uporabi zdravil.
10:41
He had to forgo all the farm activities.
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Moral se je odpovedati vsem dejavnostim na kmetiji.
10:48
He was treated with radiation therapy,
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Zdravili so ga z obsevanjem,
10:50
state-of-the-art radiation therapy,
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najsodobnejšim obsevanjem,
10:52
but it didn't help.
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a mu ni pomagalo.
10:54
Many patients like that favor radiation therapy.
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Veliko takih pacientov se odloči za obsevanje.
10:57
And again, he volunteered
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Tudi on je prostovoljno sodeloval
10:59
to a pivotal study
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v osrednji raziskavi,
11:01
that we ran worldwide,
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ki je potekala po celem svetu,
11:04
also in the U.S.
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tudi v ZDA.
11:08
And his wife actually took him.
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Pripeljala ga je njegova žena.
11:11
They drove like three hours
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Od kmetije do bolnišnice
11:13
from their farm to the hospital.
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sta se vozila tri ure.
11:16
He had to sit on a cushion,
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Moral je sedeti na blazini
11:19
stand still, not move,
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in se ne premikati,
11:21
because it was very painful.
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saj je bilo preveč boleče.
11:24
He took the treatment,
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Po posegu
11:26
and on the way back,
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je na poti na kmetijo
11:29
he drove the truck by himself.
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sam vozil tovornjak.
11:33
So again, this is an immediate relief.
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Še enkrat gre torej za takojšnje izboljšanje.
11:36
And you have to understand
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Treba je upoštevati,
11:38
what those people feel
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kako se ti ljudje počutijo
11:40
and what their family experiences
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in kaj občutijo njihove družine,
11:43
when it happens.
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ko poseg uspe.
11:45
He returned again
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PJ se je vrnil
11:47
to his daily routine on the farm.
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k svoji dnevni rutini na kmetiji.
11:49
He rides his tractor.
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Sam vozi traktor,
11:51
He rides his horse to their mountain cabin regularly.
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pogosto celo jaha na konju do svoje koče v hribih.
11:55
And he has been very happy.
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Res je srečen.
11:58
But now, you ask me,
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Sedaj pa vas zanima,
12:01
but what about war, the war on cancer?
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ali lahko s tem napovemo vojno raku?
12:03
Show us some primary cancer.
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Kaj lahko storimo
12:06
What can be done there?
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v začetnem stadiju rakavih obolenj?
12:08
So I have good news and bad news.
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Imam dobro in slabo novico.
12:10
The good news: there's a lot that can be done.
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Dobra je, da se lahko stori marsikaj.
12:13
And it has been shown actually outside of the U.S.
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To smo dokazali izven ZDA.
12:16
And doing that in the U.S.
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V ZDA je namreč take posege
12:20
is very painful.
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zelo težko opravljati.
12:22
I don't see, without this nation
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Bojim se, da če ne bo ta narod
12:26
taking it as some collective will
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tega sprejel kot skupno željo
12:30
or something that is a national goal to make that happen,
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ali kot cilj celega naroda, da bi to omogočil,
12:33
it will not happen.
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bodo taki posegi nemogoči.
12:35
And it's not just because of regulation;
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Razlog niso samo predpisi,
12:37
it's because of the amount of money needed
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pač pa predvsem količina denarja, zahtevana
12:40
under the current evidence-based medicine
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v današnjem zdravstvu, ki temelji na dokazih,
12:44
and the size of trials and so on
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in za obsežne raziskave,
12:46
to make it happen.
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ki to onemogoča.
12:48
So the first two applications
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Najprej smo ta način uporabili
12:50
are breast cancer and prostate cancer.
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pri raku dojk in raku prostate.
12:53
They were the first to be treated by focused ultrasound.
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Na teh dveh vrstah raka smo najprej izvedli postopek.
12:56
And we have better-than-surgery results in breasts.
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Pri raku dojk so rezultati boljši kot pri operaciji.
13:01
But I have a message for the men here.
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Imam pa tudi sporočilo za moške.
13:03
We heard here yesterday Quyen
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Včeraj je tu Quyen govorila o
13:06
talking about the adverse event trait
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neželenih dogodkih
13:09
in prostate cancer.
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pri raku prostate.
13:11
There is a unique opportunity now
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Tu imamo izjemno priložnost uporabe
13:13
with focused ultrasound guided by MR,
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usmerjenega ultrazvoka, ki ga vodi MR,
13:16
because we can actually think about
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saj si dejansko lahko zamislimo
13:19
prostate lumpectomy --
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lumpektomijo prostate, s čimer bi
13:21
treating just the focal lesion
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zdravili le glavno poškodbo
13:23
and not removing the whole gland,
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brez ostranitve celotne žleze
13:25
and by that, avoiding all the issues
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in se tako izognili vsem težavam
13:28
with potency and incontinence.
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s potenco in inkontinenco.
13:32
Well, there are other cancer tumors in the abdomen --
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Tu imamo še druge rakave tumorje v trebuhu,
13:38
quite lethal, very lethal actually --
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ki jih je pravzaprav zelo malo --
13:40
pancreas, liver, kidney.
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rak na trebušni slinavki, jetrih in ledvicah.
13:43
The challenge there
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Izziv pri tem je --
13:45
with a breathing and awake patient --
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ob pacientu, ki diha in je buden,
13:48
and in all our treatments,
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in tako kot pri vseh
13:50
the patient is awake and conscious
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naših posegih zavestno
13:52
and speaks with the physician --
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govori z zdravnikom --
13:56
is you have to teach the MR some tricks
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da naučimo napravo za magnetno resonanco,
13:59
how to do it in real time.
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kako naj poseg izvede ob pravem času.
14:02
And this will take time.
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To pa bo terjalo čas.
14:04
This will take two years.
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Trajalo bo približno dve leti.
14:06
But I have now a message to the ladies.
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Imam pa tudi sporočilo za dame.
14:09
And this is, in 2004,
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Leta 2004 je Ministrstvo za zdravje odobrilo uporabo
14:12
the FDA has approved MR-guided focused ultrasounds
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usmerjenega ultrazvoka z magnetno resonanco
14:15
for the treatment of symptomatic uterine fibroids.
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za zdravljenje simptomatskih materničnih fibroidov.
14:20
Women suffer from that disease.
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Ženske zbolijo za to boleznijo.
14:24
All those tumors
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Za te tumorje je značilno
14:26
have heavy bleeding during periods,
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močno krvavenje v času perila,
14:28
abdominal pressure, back pain,
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hude bolečine v trebuhu in hrbtu
14:30
frequent urination.
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ter pogosto uriniranje.
14:32
And sometimes, they cannot even conceive and become pregnant
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Včasih celo ne morejo spočeti otroka in zanositi
14:36
because of the fibroid.
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zaradi fibroidov.
14:38
This is Frances.
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To je Frances.
14:40
She was diagnosed with a grapefruit-sized fibroid.
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Odkrili so ji fibroid v velikosti grenivke.
14:42
This is a big fibroid.
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Gre za velik fibroid.
14:44
She was offered a hysterectomy,
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Ponudili so ji histerektomijo,
14:46
but this is an inconceivable proposition
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kar pa je nesprejemljiv predlog
14:48
for someone who wants to keep her pregnancy option.
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za nekoga, ki želi nekoč zanositi.
14:51
So she elected to undergo a focused ultrasound procedure
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Zato se je leta 2008 odločila za poseg
14:55
in 2008.
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z usmerjenim ultrazvokom.
14:57
And in 2010, she became a first-time mother to a healthy baby.
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Leta 2010 je postala mlada mamica zdravi dojenčici.
15:01
So new life was born.
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Rodilo se je novo življenje.
15:03
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
15:05
So in conclusion,
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Za konec imam za vas
15:08
I'd like to leave you with actually four messages.
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štiri sporočila.
15:11
One is, think about the amount
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Prvič, pomislite,
15:13
of suffering that is saved
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koliko trpljenja prihranimo pacientom
15:15
from patients undergoing noninvasive surgery,
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v postopku neinvazivnega posega,
15:19
and also the economical and emotional burden
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in koliko finančnega in čustvenega bremena
15:23
removed from their families and communities
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prihranimo njihovim družinam, skupnostim
15:26
and the society at large --
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in družbi nasploh
15:30
and I think also from their physicians, by the way.
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ter nenazadnje tudi njihovim zdravnikom.
15:36
And the other thing I would like you to think about
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Drugič, rad bi, da razmislite
15:39
is the new type of relationship
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o novi vrsti odnosa
15:42
between physician and patients
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med zdravniki in pacienti,
15:44
when you have a patient on the table
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ko je pacient na mizi buden
15:47
[who] is awake and can even monitor the treatment.
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in preko zaslona spremlja poseg.
15:50
In all our treatments,
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Pri vseh naših posegih ima pacient
15:52
the patient holds a stop sonication button.
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dostop do gumba, ki ustavi sonikacijo.
15:54
He can stop the surgery at any moment.
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Poseg lahko prepreči, kadar želi.
15:58
And with that note,
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S to mislijo
16:01
I would like to thank you for listening.
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se vam zahvaljujem za pozornost.
16:04
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
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