Erin McKean: The joy of lexicography

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Translator: Evridika Cuder Reviewer: Martina Mrsnik
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Now, have any of y'all ever looked up this word?
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Si je kdo izmed vas že kdaj pogledal to besedo?
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You know, in a dictionary? (Laughter) Yeah, that's what I thought.
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Saj veste, v slovarju? (Smeh) Ja, se mi je zdelo.
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How about this word?
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Kaj pa tole besedo?
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Here, I'll show it to you.
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Najbolje, da vam jo kar pokažem:
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Lexicography: the practice of compiling dictionaries.
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Leksikografija: sestavljanje slovarjev.
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Notice -- we're very specific -- that word "compile."
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Bodite pozorni -- smo zelo natančni -- na besedo "sestavljanje".
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The dictionary is not carved out of a piece of granite,
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Slovarji niso izklesani iz kocke granita
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out of a lump of rock. It's made up of lots of little bits.
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ali kosa kamna. Sestavljeni so iz množice majhnih delcev.
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It's little discrete --
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Majhnih diskretnih --
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that's spelled D-I-S-C-R-E-T-E -- bits.
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ločenih, ne zaupnih -- delcev.
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And those bits are words.
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In ti delci so besede.
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Now one of the perks of being a lexicographer --
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Ena izmed prednosti leksikografskega poklica je,
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besides getting to come to TED -- is that you get to say really fun words,
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poleg tega, da te povabijo na TED, da lahko izgovarjaš zares zabavne besede,
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like lexicographical.
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kot je leksikografinja.
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Lexicographical has this great pattern:
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Ta beseda ima čudovit vzorec z imenom
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it's called a double dactyl. And just by saying double dactyl,
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dvojni daktil. In zgolj z omenjanjem dvojnega daktila
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I've sent the geek needle all the way into the red. (Laughter) (Applause)
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sem kazalec na "piflarmetru" potisnila globoko v rdeče območje.
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But "lexicographical" is the same pattern as "higgledy-piggledy."
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Toda "leksikografinja" ima enako strukturo kot recimo
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Right? It's a fun word to say,
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"jejhata, jejhata", kajne? Je zabavna
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and I get to say it a lot.
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beseda, ki jo lahko pogosto uporabljam.
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Now, one of the non-perks of being a lexicographer
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Ena izmed slabosti leksikografskega poklica pa je,
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is that people don't usually have a kind of warm, fuzzy, snuggly image of the dictionary.
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da si slovarjev ponavadi ne predstavljamo kot nekaj toplega, puhastega in prijetnega,
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Right? Nobody hugs their dictionaries.
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kajne? Nihče ne objema svojih slovarjev.
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But what people really often think about the dictionary is, they think more like this.
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Ponavadi si ljudje slovar predstavljajo bolj tako.
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Just to let you know, I do not have a lexicographical whistle.
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Toliko da veste, nimam leksikografske piščalke.
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But people think that my job is to let the good words
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Toda ljudje vseeno mislijo, da je moja naloga pravilnim besedam
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make that difficult left-hand turn into the dictionary,
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pomagati najti pot v slovar
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and keep the bad words out.
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in napačnim besedam preprečevati vstop.
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But the thing is, I don't want to be a traffic cop.
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Jaz pa nočem igrati prometnega policista.
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For one thing, I just do not do uniforms.
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Prvič, uniforme niso moj stil.
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And for another, deciding what words are good
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In drugič, določanje, katere besede so pravilne
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and what words are bad is actually not very easy.
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in katere napačne, sploh ni tako enostavno.
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And it's not very fun. And when parts of your job are not easy or fun,
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In niti ni zabavno. In tistim delom poklica, ki niso lahki ali zabavni,
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you kind of look for an excuse not to do them.
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se ponavadi poskušamo izmakniti.
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So if I had to think of some kind of occupation
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Če bi že morala svoje delo primerjati s katerim izmed poklicev,
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as a metaphor for my work, I would much rather be a fisherman.
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bi veliko raje bila ribič.
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I want to throw my big net into the deep, blue ocean of English
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Svojo veliko mrežo bi vrgla v globoki modri ocean angleščine,
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and see what marvelous creatures I can drag up from the bottom.
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da bi videla, kakšna čudovita bitja lahko z dna privlečem na dan.
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But why do people want me to direct traffic, when I would much rather go fishing?
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Toda zakaj bi ljudje radi, da usmerjam promet, ko pa bi veliko raje šla lovit ribe?
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Well, I blame the Queen.
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Jaz za to krivim kraljico.
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Why do I blame the Queen?
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Zakaj krivim kraljico?
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Well, first of all, I blame the Queen because it's funny.
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No, prvič zato, ker je smešno.
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But secondly, I blame the Queen because
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In drugič zato,
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dictionaries have really not changed.
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ker se slovar, oziroma naše predstave
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Our idea of what a dictionary is has not changed since her reign.
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o njem, od obdobja njenega vladanja niso spremenile.
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The only thing that Queen Victoria would not be amused by in modern dictionaries
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Edina stvar, ki kraljici Viktoriji pri sodobnih slovarjih ne bi bila všeč,
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is our inclusion of the F-word, which has happened
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je vključitev besede "f*", ki je v ameriških
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in American dictionaries since 1965.
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slovarjih prisotna od leta 1965.
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So, there's this guy, right? Victorian era.
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Gospod iz viktorijanske dobe, ki ga vidite na sliki,
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James Murray, first editor of the Oxford English Dictionary.
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je James Murray, prvi urednik slovarja Oxford English Dictionary.
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I do not have that hat. I wish I had that hat.
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Nimam takšnega klobuka, čeprav si želim, da bi ga imela.
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So he's really responsible for a lot of
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On je zaslužen za večino tega, kar
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what we consider modern in dictionaries today.
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imamo danes pri slovarjih za moderno.
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When a guy who looks like that, in that hat,
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Če je nekdo, ki izgleda tako -- s takšnim klobukom --
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is the face of modernity, you have a problem.
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simbol sodobnosti, je jasno, da imamo problem.
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And so, James Murray could get a job on any dictionary today.
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James Murray bi danes dobil službo pri uredništvu vsakega slovarja.
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There'd be virtually no learning curve.
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Učna krivulja se praktično ne bi spremenila.
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And of course, a few of us are saying: okay, computers!
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Seveda, nekateri boste ugovarjali z računalniki.
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Computers! What about computers?
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Računalniki! Kaj pa računalniki?
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The thing about computers is, I love computers.
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Z računalniki je tako, sama jih imam rada.
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I mean, I'm a huge geek, I love computers.
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Sem zagrizen "gik", obožujem računalnike.
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I would go on a hunger strike before I let them take away Google Book Search from me.
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Če bi mi kdo poskušal odvzeti Googlov Book Search, bi uprizorila gladovno stavko.
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But computers don't do much else other than
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Toda računalniki niso naredili nič drugega kot
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speed up the process of compiling dictionaries.
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pospešili procesa sestavljanja slovarjev.
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They don't change the end result.
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Končnega rezultata niso spremenili.
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Because what a dictionary is,
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Kajti slovarji so še vedno
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is it's Victorian design merged with a little bit of modern propulsion.
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zasnovani po viktorijanskih vzorcih, dodan jim je bil le moderni pogon.
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It's steampunk. What we have is an electric velocipede.
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To je kot znanstvena fantastika v viktorijanski dobi, električni velociped.
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You know, we have Victorian design with an engine on it. That's all!
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Imamo viktorijanski izum na motorni pogon. To je vse.
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The design has not changed.
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Princip se ni spremenil.
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And OK, what about online dictionaries, right?
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V redu, kaj pa spletni slovarji?
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Online dictionaries must be different.
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Spletni slovarji so gotovo drugačni.
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This is the Oxford English Dictionary Online, one of the best online dictionaries.
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To je Oxford English Dictionary Online, eden izmed najboljših spletnih slovarjev.
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This is my favorite word, by the way.
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Mimogrede, to je moja najljubša beseda:
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Erinaceous: pertaining to the hedgehog family; of the nature of a hedgehog.
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Erinaceinae: pravi jež, pripadajoč družini ježev.
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Very useful word. So, look at that.
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Zelo uporabna beseda. Če si ogledate to, vidite, da
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Online dictionaries right now are paper thrown up on a screen.
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je sodobni spletni slovar le papir, prenesen na ekran.
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This is flat. Look how many links there are in the actual entry: two!
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To je statično. Samo poglejte, koliko je na celotni strani povezav. Dve!
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Right? Those little buttons,
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Vidite? Te majhne okvirčke
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I had them all expanded except for the date chart.
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sem vse povečala, z izjemo grafikona.
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So there's not very much going on here.
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Kot vidite, se tu ne dogaja prav veliko.
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There's not a lot of clickiness.
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Nimamo veliko možnosti klikanja.
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And in fact, online dictionaries replicate
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V bistvu je spletni slovar ohranil
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almost all the problems of print, except for searchability.
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skoraj vse slabosti knjižnega, razen boljših iskalnih možnosti.
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And when you improve searchability,
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Z izboljšanimi možnostmi iskanja
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you actually take away the one advantage of print, which is serendipity.
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pa je uničena edina prednost knjižne oblike, ki je srečno naključje.
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Serendipity is when you find things you weren't looking for,
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Srečno naključje nastopi takrat, ko najdeš stvari, ki jih nisi iskal,
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because finding what you are looking for is so damned difficult.
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zato ker je tisto, kar si iskal, tako prekleto težko najti.
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So -- (Laughter) (Applause) -- now, when you think about this,
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Torej -- (Smeh) -- če pomislimo,
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what we have here is a ham butt problem.
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smo tukaj priča problemu zadnjega konca šunke.
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Does everyone know the ham butt problem?
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Pozna kdo izmed vas ta problem?
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Woman's making a ham for a big, family dinner.
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Žena kuha šunko za veliko družinsko večerjo.
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She goes to cut the butt off the ham and throw it away,
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Odreže zadnji konec šunke in ko ga že hoče vreči v smeti,
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and she looks at this piece of ham and she's like,
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nenadoma dobi preblisk:
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"This is a perfectly good piece of ham. Why am I throwing this away?"
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"Saj to je čisto dober kos šunke. Zakaj ga mečem stran?"
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She thought, "Well, my mom always did this."
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Nato se spomni: "Ker je mama vedno tako delala."
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So she calls up mom, and she says,
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Tako pokliče mamo in jo vpraša:
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"Mom, why'd you cut the butt off the ham, when you're making a ham?"
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"Mama, zakaj pri kuhanju šunke vedno odstraniš en konec?"
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She says, "I don't know, my mom always did it!"
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Mama pravi: "Ne vem, ker je moja mama vedno tako delala!"
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So they call grandma, and grandma says,
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Nato pokličeta še babico, ki pove:
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"My pan was too small!" (Laughter)
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"Moj lonec je bil premajhen!" (Smeh)
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So, it's not that we have good words and bad words.
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Nimamo torej pravilnih in napačnih besed --
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We have a pan that's too small!
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imamo samo premajhen lonec!
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You know, that ham butt is delicious! There's no reason to throw it away.
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Veste, šunkin zadnji konec je slasten in ni razloga, da bi ga metali proč.
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The bad words -- see, when people think about a place
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Če nekega kraja
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and they don't find a place on the map,
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ne najdemo na zemljevidu,
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they think, "This map sucks!"
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si mislimo, da je zemljevid brezvezen.
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When they find a nightspot or a bar, and it's not in the guidebook,
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Če naletimo na nočni klub ali lokal, ki ga ni v turističnem vodiču,
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they're like, "Ooh, this place must be cool! It's not in the guidebook."
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pomislimo: "Ta lokal mora niti nekaj posebnega, ker ga ni v vodiču."
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When they find a word that's not in the dictionary, they think,
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Če pa naletimo na besedo, ki je ni v slovarju, si rečemo:
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"This must be a bad word." Why? It's more likely to be a bad dictionary.
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"Ta beseda je gotovo slaba." Zakaj? Večja je možnost, da je slab slovar.
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Why are you blaming the ham for being too big for the pan?
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Zakaj krivimo šunko, ker je prevelika za lonec?
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So, you can't get a smaller ham.
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Šunke se ne da spremeniti.
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The English language is as big as it is.
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Angleščina je velika toliko, kolikor je.
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So, if you have a ham butt problem,
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Torej, če smo priča problemu zadnjega konca šunke
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and you're thinking about the ham butt problem,
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in o njem razmišljamo,
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the conclusion that it leads you to is inexorable and counterintuitive:
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pridemo do neizogibnega, a hkrati protislovnega zaključka, da je
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paper is the enemy of words.
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papir sovražnik besed.
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How can this be? I mean, I love books. I really love books.
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Kako je to možno? Ne razumite me narobe, knjige imam zelo rada. Resno.
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Some of my best friends are books.
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Nekateri izmed mojih najboljših prijateljev so knjige.
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But the book is not the best shape for the dictionary.
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Toda knjiga ni najboljši medij za slovar.
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Now they're going to think "Oh, boy.
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Sedaj se boste ustrašili: "Ojoj, ali
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People are going to take away my beautiful, paper dictionaries?"
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mi bodo odvzeli moje prelepe knjižne slovarje?"
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No. There will still be paper dictionaries.
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Ne. Takšni slovarji bodo še vedno obstajali.
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When we had cars -- when cars became the dominant mode of transportation,
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S pojavom avtomobila, oziroma ko je ta postal glavno prevozno sredstvo,
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we didn't round up all the horses and shoot them.
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nismo zbrali vseh konjev in jih postrelili.
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You know, there're still going to be paper dictionaries,
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Slovar kot knjiga bo še vedno obstajal,
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but it's not going to be the dominant dictionary.
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le ne bo več zasedal dominantnega položaja.
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The book-shaped dictionary is not going to be the only shape
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Knjižna oblika ne bo edina oblika,
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dictionaries come in. And it's not going to be
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v kateri se bodo slovarji pojavljali. In ne bo
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the prototype for the shapes dictionaries come in.
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prototipična oblika za slovar.
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So, think about it this way: if you've got an artificial constraint,
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Zavedajte se, da postavljanje namišljenih omejitev
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artificial constraints lead to
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vodi v oblikovanje
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arbitrary distinctions and a skewed worldview.
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poljubnih kriterijev in privede do izkrivljenih predstav o svetu.
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What if biologists could only study animals
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Kaj če bi biologi lahko preučevali le živali,
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that made people go, "Aww." Right?
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ob katerih se ljudje raznežijo?
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What if we made aesthetic judgments about animals,
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Kaj če bi živali razvrščali po estetskih kriterijih
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and only the ones we thought were cute were the ones that we could study?
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in bi preučevali samo tiste, ki bi se nam zdele ljubke?
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We'd know a whole lot about charismatic megafauna,
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Ogromno bi vedeli o karizmatični megafavni
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and not very much about much else.
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in ne prav veliko o čem drugem.
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And I think this is a problem.
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In po mojem mnenju to predstavlja problem.
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I think we should study all the words,
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Mislim, da bi morali preučevati vse besede,
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because when you think about words, you can make beautiful expressions
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kajti če pomislimo, lahko s pomočjo skromnih gradnikov
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from very humble parts.
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izrazimo lepe misli.
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Lexicography is really more about material science.
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Leksikografija je v bistvu veda o gradivih.
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We are studying the tolerances of the materials
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Preučujemo vzdržljivost materialov,
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that you use to build the structure of your expression:
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ki jih uporabljamo za gradnjo svojega načina izražanja:
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your speeches and your writing. And then, often people say to me,
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govora in pisave. Ljudje me pogosto sprašujejo:
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"Well, OK, how do I know that this word is real?"
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"V redu, ampak kako veš, da določena beseda res obstaja?"
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They think, "OK, if we think words are the tools
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Če so besede orodje,
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that we use to build the expressions of our thoughts,
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s katerim ustvarjamo izraz naših misli,
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how can you say that screwdrivers are better than hammers?
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kako lahko potem rečemo, da so izvijači boljši od kladiv?
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How can you say that a sledgehammer is better than a ball-peen hammer?"
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Kako lahko trdimo, da je kovaško kladivo boljše od kladiva s kroglastim kljunom?
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They're just the right tools for the job.
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Sta le orodji, primerni za različna dela.
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And so people say to me, "How do I know if a word is real?"
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In tako me ljudje sprašujejo, kako vem, če je beseda resnična.
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You know, anybody who's read a children's book
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Veste, vsak, ki je kdaj bral knjige za otroke,
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knows that love makes things real.
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ve, da s pomočjo ljubezni stvari postanejo resnične.
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If you love a word, use it. That makes it real.
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Če imaš neko besedo rad, jo uporabljaj in jo tako naredi resnično.
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Being in the dictionary is an artificial distinction.
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Prisotnost v slovarju je umetni kriterij.
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It doesn't make a word any more real than any other way.
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Zaradi nje besede niso nič bolj ali manj resnične.
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If you love a word, it becomes real.
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Če imaš besedo rad, jo narediš resnično.
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So if we're not worrying about directing traffic,
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Torej, če se nehamo ukvarjati z usmerjanjem prometa,
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if we've transcended paper, if we are worrying less
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če presežemo papir in se raje bolj posvetimo
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about control and more about description,
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opisu kot nadzoru,
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then we can think of the English language
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potem si lahko angleščino predstavljamo
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as being this beautiful mobile.
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kot neko čudovito potujoče telo.
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And any time one of those little parts of the mobile changes,
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Vsakič, ko se nekdo dotakne enega izmed njegovih delov,
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is touched, any time you touch a word,
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ko se dotakne besede,
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you use it in a new context, you give it a new connotation,
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jo uporabi v novem kontekstu, ji doda pomen,
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you verb it, you make the mobile move.
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spremeni besedno vrsto, se telo premakne.
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You didn't break it. It's just in a new position,
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Zaradi tega se ne pokvari, je le v drugem položaju,
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and that new position can be just as beautiful.
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ki je lahko ravno tako lep kot prejšnji.
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Now, if you're no longer a traffic cop --
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Torej, če nismo več v vlogi prometnega policista --
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the problem with being a traffic cop is
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ti so problematični,
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there can only be so many traffic cops in any one intersection,
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ker jih je na enem križišču lahko le omejeno število,
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or the cars get confused. Right?
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drugače v prometu zavlada kaos, kajne?
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But if your goal is no longer to direct the traffic,
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Če naš cilj ni več usmerjanje prometa,
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but maybe to count the cars that go by, then more eyeballs are better.
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temveč štetje avtomobilov, potem potrebujemo čim več parov oči.
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You can ask for help!
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Lahko prosimo za pomoč!
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If you ask for help, you get more done. And we really need help.
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Tako lahko dosežemo več, saj pomoč resnično potrebujemo.
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Library of Congress: 17 million books,
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Ameriška nacionalna knjižnica Library of Congress vsebuje 17 milijonov knjig,
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of which half are in English.
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od tega jih je polovica v angleščini.
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If only one out of every 10 of those books
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Če je samo v eni izmed desetih knjig
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had a word that's not in the dictionary in it,
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ena beseda, ki je ni v slovarju,
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that would be equivalent to more than two unabridged dictionaries.
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bi jih skupaj naneslo za dva velika slovarja besed.
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And I find an un-dictionaried word --
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V skoraj vsaki knjigi, ki jo berem,
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a word like "un-dictionaried," for example --
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naletim na neposlovarjeno besedo,
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in almost every book I read. What about newspapers?
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kot je na primer "neposlovarjen". Kaj pa časopisi?
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Newspaper archive goes back to 1759,
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Časopisni arhiv vsebuje časnike od leta 1759.
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58.1 million newspaper pages. If only one in 100
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V njem je 58,1 milijona strani. Če je samo na eni izmed stotih
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of those pages had an un-dictionaried word on it,
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strani ena neposlovarjena beseda,
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it would be an entire other OED.
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bi jih bilo skupaj dovolj za slovar v obsegu Oxford English Dictionary.
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That's 500,000 more words. So that's a lot.
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To je 500.000 besed več. Kar je veliko.
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And I'm not even talking about magazines. I'm not talking about blogs --
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In da niti ne omenjam revij in blogov.
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and I find more new words on BoingBoing in a given week
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Na spletišču BoingBoing v enem tednu najdem več novih besed
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than I do Newsweek or Time.
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kot v Newsweeku ali Timeu.
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There's a lot going on there.
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Tam je jezik res živahen.
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And I'm not even talking about polysemy,
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In da niti ne omenjam polisemije,
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which is the greedy habit some words have of taking
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pohlepne navade nekaterih besed,
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more than one meaning for themselves.
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da si vzamejo več kot en pomen.
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So if you think of the word "set," a set can be a badger's burrow,
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Takšna je na primer angleška beseda "set", ki lahko označuje jazbečev brlog
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a set can be one of the pleats in an Elizabethan ruff,
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gubo na nabranem elizabetinskem ovratniku
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and there's one numbered definition in the OED.
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in še kaj, saj v slovarju Oxford English Dictionary
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The OED has 33 different numbered definitions for set.
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obstaja 33 definicij zanjo.
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Tiny, little word, 33 numbered definitions.
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Tako kratka besedica in kar 33 definicij.
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One of them is just labeled "miscellaneous technical senses."
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Ena izmed njih se glasi: "razni strokovni pomeni".
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Do you know what that says to me?
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Veste kaj to pomeni?
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That says to me, it was Friday afternoon and somebody wanted to go down the pub. (Laughter)
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Da je to iztočnico nekdo sestavljal na petek zvečer, ko se mu je mudilo ven.
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That's a lexicographical cop out,
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"Razni strokovni pomeni" je
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to say, "miscellaneous technical senses."
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leksikografski izhod v sili.
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So, we have all these words, and we really need help!
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Besed je veliko, zato resnično potrebujemo pomoč.
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And the thing is, we could ask for help --
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In lahko prosimo zanjo,
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asking for help's not that hard.
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to ni tako težko,
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I mean, lexicography is not rocket science.
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saj leksikografija ni kvantna fizika.
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See, I just gave you a lot of words and a lot of numbers,
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Do sedaj sem vam podala le veliko besed in številk,
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and this is more of a visual explanation.
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sedaj pa je na vrsti vizualni prikaz stanja.
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If we think of the dictionary as being the map of the English language,
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Če si slovar predstavljamo kot zemljevid angleščine,
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these bright spots are what we know about,
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so svetla polja tisto, kar poznamo
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and the dark spots are where we are in the dark.
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in temna tisto, o čemer ne vemo še ničesar.
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If that was the map of all the words in American English, we don't know very much.
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Iz tega zemljevida ameriške angleščine je razvidno, da o njej še veliko ne vemo.
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And we don't even know the shape of the language.
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Ne poznamo niti njenega obsega.
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If this was the dictionary -- if this was the map of American English --
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Če bi to bil slovar -- če bi to bil zemljevid ameriške angleščine --
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look, we have a kind of lumpy idea of Florida,
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vidimo, da približno poznamo Florido,
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but there's no California!
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Kalifornije pa sploh ni!
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We're missing California from American English.
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Manjka nam cela Kalifornija ameriške angleščine.
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We just don't know enough, and we don't even know that we're missing California.
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Enostavno ne vemo dovolj, ne vemo niti, da nam manjka celotna Kalifornija.
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We don't even see that there's a gap on the map.
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Vrzeli na zemljevidu se še zavedamo ne.
12:16
So again, lexicography is not rocket science.
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Še enkrat, leksikografija ni kvantna fizika
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But even if it were, rocket science is being done
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In tudi, če bi bila, s fiziko se dandanes
12:22
by dedicated amateurs these days. You know?
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ukvarjajo tudi predani ljubitelji, kajne?
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It can't be that hard to find some words!
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Iskanje novih besed že ne more biti pretežko.
12:30
So, enough scientists in other disciplines
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Kar nekaj znanstvenikov iz drugih disciplin
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are really asking people to help, and they're doing a good job of it.
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prosi za pomoč laike, ki dobro opravljajo svoje naloge.
12:36
For instance, there's eBird, where amateur birdwatchers
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Primer za to je spletna stran eBird, kamor lahko ljubiteljski opazovalci ptičev
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can upload information about their bird sightings.
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naložijo podatke o svojih opažanjih.
12:40
And then, ornithologists can go
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Ornitologi lahko na podlagi tega
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and help track populations, migrations, etc.
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lažje opazujejo populacije, selitve ptic itd.
12:45
And there's this guy, Mike Oates. Mike Oates lives in the U.K.
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Mike Oates, direktor podjetja za galvanizacijo
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He's a director of an electroplating company.
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iz Velike Britanije,
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He's found more than 140 comets.
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je odkril več kot 140 kometov.
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He's found so many comets, they named a comet after him.
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Odkril jih je toliko, da so enega celo poimenovali po njem.
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It's kind of out past Mars. It's a hike.
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Je nekje malo naprej od Marsa, do njega je lep kos poti,
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I don't think he's getting his picture taken there anytime soon.
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ne verjamem, da se bo v bližnji prihodnosti tam slikal.
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But he found 140 comets without a telescope.
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Toda vseh 140 kometov je našel brez teleskopa.
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He downloaded data from the NASA SOHO satellite,
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Našel jih je tako,
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and that's how he found them.
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da je potrebne podatke prenesel z Nasinega satelita SOHO.
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If we can find comets without a telescope,
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Če lahko najdemo komete brez teleskopa,
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shouldn't we be able to find words?
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bomo pa že lahko našli tudi besede.
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Now, y'all know where I'm going with this.
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Vsem vam je jasno, kam merim s tem.
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Because I'm going to the Internet, which is where everybody goes.
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Pomoč bom poiskala na internetu, kot jo danes vsi.
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And the Internet is great for collecting words,
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Internet je zelo prikladen za zbiranje besed,
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because the Internet's full of collectors.
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saj je poln zbiralcev.
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And this is a little-known technological fact about the Internet,
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Manj znano dejstvo o internetu je,
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but the Internet is actually made up of words and enthusiasm.
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da pravzaprav temelji na besedah in navdušenju.
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And words and enthusiasm actually happen to be
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In prav besede in navdušenje so
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the recipe for lexicography. Isn't that great?
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sestavni del leksikografije, kaj ni to čudovito?
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So there are a lot of really good word-collecting sites out there right now,
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Obstaja veliko spletnih strani za zbiranje besed,
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but the problem with some of them is that they're not scientific enough.
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toda njhova pomanjkljivost je, da niso dovolj znanstvene.
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They show the word, but they don't show any context.
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Prikažejo besedo izven konteksta.
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Where did it come from? Who said it?
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Od kje je prišla? Kdo jo je izrekel?
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What newspaper was it in? What book?
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V katerem časopisu, v kateri knjigi je bila objavljena?
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Because a word is like an archaeological artifact.
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Ker beseda je kot arheološki artefakt.
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If you don't know the provenance or the source of the artifact,
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Če njegov izvor ni znan,
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it's not science, it's a pretty thing to look at.
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to ni znanstveni primerek, je le lep okras.
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So a word without its source is like a cut flower.
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Tako je tudi beseda brez podatkov o izvoru kot utrgana roža.
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You know, it's pretty to look at for a while, but then it dies.
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Na pogled je lep le, dokler se ne posuši.
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It dies too fast.
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In posuši se prehitro.
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So, this whole time I've been saying,
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Do sedaj sem večinoma govorila
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"The dictionary, the dictionary, the dictionary, the dictionary."
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o slovarju v ednini
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Not "a dictionary," or "dictionaries." And that's because,
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in ne o slovarjih. To pa zato,
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well, people use the dictionary to stand for the whole language.
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ker ponavadi slovar simbolizira celoten jezik.
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They use it synecdochically.
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Ta beseda se uporablja sinekdohično.
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And one of the problems of knowing a word like "synecdochically"
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Problem poznavanja besed kot je "sinekdohično", je v tem,
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is that you really want an excuse to say "synecdochically."
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da pravzaprav iščeš izgovore, da se s tem pohvališ.
14:30
This whole talk has just been an excuse to get me to the point
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Ta celoten govor sem v bistvu pripravila zato,
14:32
where I could say "synecdochically" to all of you.
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da lahko pred vsemi vami rečem "sinekdohično".
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So I'm really sorry. But when you use a part of something --
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Se opravičujem. Toda ko del nečesa,
14:37
like the dictionary is a part of the language,
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kot na primer slovar, ki je del jezika,
14:39
or a flag stands for the United States, it's a symbol of the country --
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ali zastava, ki simbolizira državo, predstavlja celoto,
14:44
then you're using it synecdochically.
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potem je ta del uporabljen sinekdohično.
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But the thing is, we could make the dictionary the whole language.
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Stvar je v tem, da bi slovar res lahko predstavljal jezik.
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If we get a bigger pan, then we can put all the words in.
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Če bi si priskrbeli večji lonec, bi lahko vanj spravili vse besede
14:56
We can put in all the meanings.
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in vse pomene.
15:00
Doesn't everyone want more meaning in their lives?
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Si ne želimo vsi, da bi naše življenje imelo več pomena?
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And we can make the dictionary not just be a symbol of the language --
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Slovar tako lahko postane ne le simbol za jezik,
15:08
we can make it be the whole language.
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lahko postane jezik sam.
15:11
You see, what I'm really hoping for is that my son,
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Resnično upam, da se bo moj sin, ki bo ta
15:13
who turns seven this month -- I want him to barely remember
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mesec dopolnil sedem let,
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that this is the form factor that dictionaries used to come in.
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komaj spominjal, da je slovar včasih nastajal v tej obliki.
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This is what dictionaries used to look like.
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Tako je slovar izgledal včasih.
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I want him to think of this kind of dictionary as an eight-track tape.
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Želim, da bi o njem razmišljal kot o avdio kaseti.
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It's a format that died because it wasn't useful enough.
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Kot o formatu, ki ni več aktualen, ker ni bil dovolj uporaben,
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It wasn't really what people needed.
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ker ni zadovoljil človekovih potreb.
15:32
And the thing is, if we can put in all the words,
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In če bomo v novodobni slovar vključili vse besede,
15:35
no longer have that artificial distinction between good and bad,
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ne bomo več imeli navideznih razlik med pravilnim in napačnim.
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we can really describe the language like scientists.
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Jezik bomo lahko opisovali kot znanstveniki,
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We can leave the aesthetic judgments to the writers and the speakers.
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sodbe o estetskosti pa prepustili pisateljem in govorcem.
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If we can do that, then I can spend all my time fishing,
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Če nam to uspe, bom lahko ves čas ribarila
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and I don't have to be a traffic cop anymore.
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in ne bo mi treba več igrati prometnega policista.
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Thank you very much for your kind attention.
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Najlepša hvala za vašo prijazno pozornost.
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