Paddy Ashdown: The global power shift

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Reviewer: Maider Uranga
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There's a poem written
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Oso poeta ingeles ospetsu baten
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by a very famous English poet
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poema batean
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at the end of the 19th century.
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XIX. mendearen amaieran idatzita,
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It was said to echo in Churchill's brain
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Churchill-i eragin egin ziona
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in the 1930s.
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1930eko hamarkadan.
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And the poem goes:
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Eta poemak horrela dio:
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"On the idle hill of summer,
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"Udaren muino barean,
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lazy with the flow of streams,
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erreken ubideen nagian,
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hark I hear a distant drummer,
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urrunean danborra entzuten dut,
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drumming like a sound in dreams,
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ametsetako zurrumurrua bezala adarra jotzen.
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far and near and low and louder on the roads of earth go by,
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Urrun eta gertu, ezti eta ozen, lurreko bideetatik doaz,
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dear to friend and food to powder,
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lagunentzako maitaleak eta hautsetarako elikagai,
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soldiers marching,
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soldaduak badoaz,
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soon to die."
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laster hil egitera."
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Those who are interested in poetry,
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Poesia interesatzen zaienei,
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the poem is "A Shropshire Lad" written by A.E. Housman.
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poema "Shropshire-ren gizona" deitzen da, A.E. Housman-ek idatzia.
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But what Housman understood,
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Hots, Housman-ek ulertu zuena,
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and you hear it in the symphonies of Nielsen too,
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eta Nielsen-en sinfonietan ere entzun daitekeena,
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was that the long, hot, silvan summers
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uda luzeak, beroak eta basatiak
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of stability of the 19th century
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XIX. mendearenak, egonkortasunez beteta
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were coming to a close,
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amaitzear zeudela,
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and that we were about to move
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eta gizakiok denboraldi historiko ikaragarri batera
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into one of those terrifying periods of history
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abiatu ginela,
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when power changes.
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botereak aldatzen duenean gertatzen diren horietako bat.
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And these are always periods, ladies and gentlemen,
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Eta denboraldi horiek, jaun-andreak,
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accompanied by turbulence,
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nahasteekin batera doaz,
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and all too often by blood.
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eta maiz, odolekin ere bai.
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And my message for you
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Eta nire mezua da
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is that I believe we are condemned, if you like,
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behartuta gaudela, nahi baduzue,
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to live at just one of those moments in history
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denboraldi historiko horien batean bizitzera,
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when the gimbals upon which
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boterearen ezarritako ordenaren nahaste-borrastea
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the established order of power is beginning to change
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aldatzen hasiko denean
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and the new look of the world,
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eta munduaren itxura berria,
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the new powers that exist in the world,
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non munduan dauden botere berriak
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are beginning to take form.
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hasiko dira osatzen.
01:37
And these are -- and we see it very clearly today --
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Eta oso argi ikusten dugu gaur egun;
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nearly always highly turbulent times, highly difficult times,
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nahaste handiko denboraldiak dira gaurkoak
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and all too often very bloody times.
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eta askotan, baita odoltsuak ere.
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By the way, it happens about once every century.
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Hala ere, hori mendean behin gertatzen da.
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You might argue that the last time it happened --
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Baiezta litezke hori zen gertatu zena
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and that's what Housman felt coming and what Churchill felt too --
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eta Housman-ek eta Churchill-ek susmatu zuten ideia zen
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was that when power passed from the old nations,
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nazio zaharren boterea,
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the old powers of Europe,
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Europako nazio zaharrena,
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across the Atlantic to the new emerging power
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agertzen ari diren potentzia berrira, Atlantikoz bestalde, eraman zen
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of the United States of America --
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Estatu Batuetakoa,
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the beginning of the American century.
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mende estatubatuarren hasiera.
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And of course, into the vacuum
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Eta jakina, botere europar zaharrek
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where the too-old European powers used to be
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utzitako hutsunean
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were played the two bloody catastrophes
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bi hondamen odoltsuak garatu ziren
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of the last century --
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azkeneko mendekoak, hain zuzen ere.
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the one in the first part and the one in the second part: the two great World Wars.
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Lehenengoa mendearen lehenengo zatian, eta beste bat bigarren zatian: bi mundu gerra handiak.
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Mao Zedong used to refer to them as the European civil wars,
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Mao Zedong-ek horrela deskribatzen dira: Europako gerra zibilak,
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and it's probably a more accurate way of describing them.
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eta segur aski deskribapen onena da.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen,
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Orduan, jaun-andreak
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we live at one of those times.
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denboraldi horien batean bizi izaten gara.
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But for us, I want to talk about three factors today.
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Baina gure kasuan, 3 faktore azaldu nahi ditut.
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And the first of these, the first two of these,
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Eta horietako lehenengoa, lehenengo biek,
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is about a shift in power.
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boterearen lekualdatzea adierazten dute,
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And the second is about some new dimension which I want to refer to,
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eta besteak, nik adierazi nahi dudan dimentsio berria,
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which has never quite happened in the way it's happening now.
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ez delako inoiz gertatzen gaurko moduan.
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But let's talk about the shifts of power that are occurring to the world.
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Baina hitz dezagun munduan gertatzen ari den boterearen lekualdatzeari buruz.
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And what is happening today
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Eta gaur egun gertatzen dena da
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is, in one sense, frightening
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nolabait esanda, ikaragarria,
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because it's never happened before.
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lehen ez zelako inoiz gertatuko.
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We have seen lateral shifts of power --
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Boterearen alboko lekualdatzeak ikusi ditugu,
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the power of Greece passed to Rome
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Greziak Erromari eraman zion boterea,
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and the power shifts that occurred
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eta gertatutakoak
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during the European civilizations --
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Europako zibilizazioetan zehar;
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but we are seeing something slightly different.
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baina gaur egun ikusten duguna pixka bat desberdina da.
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For power is not just moving laterally
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Hots, boterea ez da albo-mugimendurik egiten,
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from nation to nation.
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hau da, nazio batetik bestera
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It's also moving vertically.
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baizik eta, berak modu bertikalean ere egiten du.
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What's happening today is that the power that was encased,
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Gaur egun, gordetako botereak,
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held to accountability, held to the rule of law,
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erantzukizunak eta zuzenbidezko estatuak zuzentzen dute boterea,
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within the institution of the nation state
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Estatu-nazioaren instituzioaren barruan
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has now migrated in very large measure onto the global stage.
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migratu egin du, neurri handi batean, mundu mailako eszenatokira.
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The globalization of power --
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Boterearen globalizazioa,
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we talk about the globalization of markets,
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merkatuen globalizazioari buruz hitz egiten ari gara,
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but actually it's the globalization of real power.
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baina, egia esan, egiazko boterearen globalizazioa da.
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And where, at the nation state level
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Eta Estatu-nazioaren eremuan
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that power is held to accountability
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botereak erantzukizuna dauka
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subject to the rule of law,
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zuzenbidezko estatuari lotuta,
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on the international stage it is not.
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baina ez da horrela mundu mailako eremuan.
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The international stage and the global stage where power now resides:
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Mundu mailako eremuan eta eszenatokian, gaur boterea bizi izaten da:
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the power of the Internet, the power of the satellite broadcasters,
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Internet boterea, satelite bidezko irrati-enpresen boterea,
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the power of the money changers --
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diru-trukatzaileen boterea,
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this vast money-go-round
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mugitzen ari den diru kantitate handi hori
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that circulates now 32 times the amount of money necessary
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merkataritzarako behar dena baino 32 aldiz handiagoa da
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for the trade it's supposed to be there to finance --
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eta han dago
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the money changers, if you like,
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diru-trukatzaileei finantzatzeko, nahi baduzue,
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the financial speculators
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finantza-espekulatzaileei,
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that have brought us all to our knees quite recently,
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arestian belauniko jarri digutenei,
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the power of the multinational corporations
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enpresa multinazionalen boterea,
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now developing budgets
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enpresa horiek aurrekontuak garatzen dituzte
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often bigger than medium-sized countries.
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eta maiz tamaina erdiko herrienak baino handiagoak dira.
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These live in a global space
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Enpresa horiek mundu mailako eremuan bizi dira,
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which is largely unregulated,
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eta eremu hori, hein handi batean, ez dago araututa
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not subject to the rule of law,
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ezta zuzenbidezko estatuari lotuta ere,
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and in which people may act free of constraint.
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non pertsonek aske aritu dezaketen.
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Now that suits the powerful
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Egoera horrek komeni dio boteretsuari
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up to a moment.
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orain arte.
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It's always suitable for those who have the most power
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Oso egokia da boteretsuentzat
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to operate in spaces without constraint,
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murrizte gabeko eremuetan aritzea,
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but the lesson of history is that, sooner or later,
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baina historiaren ikasgaia da, lehenago edo beranduago,
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unregulated space --
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ez araututako eremua,
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space not subject to the rule of law --
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zuzenbidezko estatuari lotuta ez dagoen eremua,
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becomes populated, not just by the things you wanted --
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nahiago ditugun gauzez bete ez ezik:
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international trade, the Internet, etc. --
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nazioarteko merkataritza, Internet eta abar;
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but also by the things you don't want --
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baita nahiago ez ditugunekin ere:
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international criminality, international terrorism.
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nazioarteko delinkuentzia, nazioarteko terrorismoa,
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The revelation of 9/11
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Irailaren 11ren frogapena da
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is that even if you are the most powerful nation on earth,
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Lurraren nazio boteretsuena izan arren,
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nevertheless,
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halere,
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those who inhabit that space can attack you
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eremu horretan bizi direnek eraso diezaiokete AEBei,
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even in your most iconic of cities
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baita hiriaren ikono handienak ere,
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one bright September morning.
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irailaren goiz distiratsu batean.
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It's said that something like 60 percent
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Irailaren 11 finantzatzeko 4 milioi dolarren
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of the four million dollars that was taken to fund 9/11
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%60 inguru
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actually passed through the institutions of the Twin Towers
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Dorre Bikien instituzio beraiek finantzatu zuten kantitate hori
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which 9/11 destroyed.
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erasoa aurrera eramateko.
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You see, our enemies also use this space --
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Honela, gure etsaiek eremu hori erabiltzen dute,
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the space of mass travel, the Internet, satellite broadcasters --
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denak baterako bidaien eremua, Internetena, satelite bidezko irrati enpresena,
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to be able to get around their poison,
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euren pozoia areagotzeko, hots,
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which is about destroying our systems and our ways.
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gure sistemak eta ohiturak suntsitzeko.
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Sooner or later,
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Lehenago edo beranduago,
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sooner or later,
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lehenago edo beranduago,
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the rule of history
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historiaren arauak
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is that where power goes
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dio hara non boterea doan,
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governance must follow.
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gobernua bere atzetik.
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And if it is therefore the case, as I believe it is,
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Eta horrela bada, eta ontzat ematen dut,
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that one of the phenomenon of our time
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gure garaiaren fenomeno inportantenetariko bat
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is the globalization of power,
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boterearen globalizazioa da,
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then it follows that one of the challenges of our time
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orduan gure garaiko erronka handienetariko bat ondoriozta dezakegu, hau da,
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is to bring governance to the global space.
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mundu mailako eremura gobernaketa eramatea.
05:47
And I believe that the decades ahead of us now
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Eta uste dut datorren hamarkadak
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will be to a greater or lesser extent turbulent
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neurri batean, zurrunbilotsuak izango direla,
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the more or less we are able to achieve that aim:
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gutxi gorabehera helburua lortuko dugu, hau da,
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to bring governance to the global space.
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mundu mailako eremura gobernaketa eramatea.
05:59
Now notice, I'm not talking about government.
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Baina kontuan hartu behar duzue gobernuari buruz hitz egiten ez dudala.
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I'm not talking about setting up
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Ez dut esan nahi
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some global democratic institution.
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mundu mailako instituzio demokratikoa ezartzea.
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My own view, by the way, ladies and gentlemen,
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Nire ikuspuntua, jaun-andreak,
06:08
is that this is unlikely to be done
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hau nekez sinestekoa da gertatzeko
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by spawning more U.N. institutions.
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NBen instituzioen ugalketaren bidez.
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If we didn't have the U.N., we'd have to invent it.
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NBa ez bagenu, asmatu beharko genuke.
06:14
The world needs an international forum.
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Munduak nazioarteko foroa behar du.
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It needs a means by which you can legitimize international action.
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Nazioarteko ekintzak egiaztatzeko baliabide bat beharrezkoa da.
06:20
But when it comes to governance of the global space,
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Baina mundu mailako eremuaren gobernaketari buruz hitz egiten dugunean,
06:22
my guess is this won't happen
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nire ustez hau ez da gertatuko
06:25
through the creation of more U.N. institutions.
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NBen instituzioen ugalketaren bidez.
06:27
It will actually happen by the powerful coming together
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Baizik eta boterearen batasunaren zehar
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and making treaty-based systems,
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eta hitzarmenez oinarritutako sistemen zehar,
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treaty-based agreements,
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akordioetan,
06:34
to govern that global space.
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mundu mailako eremua zuzentzeko.
06:36
And if you look, you can see them happening, already beginning to emerge.
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Eta arretaz bazaudete, gertatzen ari denaren ideia eskuratuko duzue.
06:39
The World Trade Organization: treaty-based organization,
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Munduko Merkataritza Antolakundea: hitzarmenez oinarritutako antolakundea,
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entirely treaty-based,
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zeharo hitzarmenez oinarritutakoa,
06:44
and yet, powerful enough to hold even the most powerful, the United States,
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eta hala ere, boteretsuena (EEBB) geldiarazteko gai izatea,
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to account if necessary.
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argibideak eskatzen, beharrezkoa bada.
06:49
Kyoto: the beginnings of struggling to create
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Kyoto: borrokaren hasiera da sortzeko
06:51
a treaty-based organization.
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hitzarmenez oinarritutako antolakundea.
06:53
The G20:
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G-20a:
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we know now that we have to put together an institution
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jakin badakigu instituzio berri bat martxan jarri behar dugula
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which is capable of bringing governance
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gobernaketa eskaintzeko
06:59
to that financial space for financial speculation.
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finantza-eremu horri finantza-espekulazioarentzat.
07:02
And that's what the G20 is, a treaty-based institution.
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Eta hori da G-20a, hitzarmenez oinarritutako antolakundea.
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Now there's a problem there,
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Baina arazo bat dago han,
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and we'll come back to it in a minute,
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eta minutu batean berriro hartuko dut,
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which is that if you bring the most powerful together
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hau da, boteretsuenak biltzen badira
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to make the rules in treaty-based institutions,
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hitzarmenez oinarritutako instituzioen arauak sortzeko
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to fill that governance space,
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eremu hori gobernaketaz betetzeko,
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then what happens to the weak who are left out?
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zer gertatzen da kanpoan geratzen diren ahulekin?
07:20
And that's a big problem,
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Eta hori arazo galanta da,
07:22
and we'll return to it in just a second.
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eta segundu batean berriro hartuko dut.
07:24
So there's my first message,
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Orduan hau da nire lehenengo mezua,
07:26
that if you are to pass through these turbulent times
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denboraldi zurrunbilotsu hau zeharkatu nahi badugu,
07:29
more or less turbulently,
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gutxi gorabehera zurrunbilotsuak,
07:32
then our success in doing that
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orduan, gure arrakasta egongo da,
07:34
will in large measure depend on our capacity
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hein handi batean, gure ahalmenarena
07:36
to bring sensible governance
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gobernaketa nabarmena eramateko
07:38
to the global space.
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mundu mailako eremura.
07:40
And watch that beginning to happen.
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Eta konprobatzea zer gertatuko den.
07:43
My second point is,
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Nire bigarren puntua
07:45
and I know I don't have to talk to an audience like this
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badakit ez diot horretaz hitz egin behar
07:47
about such a thing,
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hau bezalako entzuleriari,
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but power is not just shifting vertically,
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baina botereak ez du soilik aldatzen modu bertikalean,
07:52
it's also shifting horizontally.
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baita modu horizontalean ere.
07:54
You might argue that the story, the history of civilizations,
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Zuek argudioak eman zenitzakete historiari buruz, zibilizazioen historiari buruz,
07:57
has been civilizations gathered around seas --
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gehienek itsasoen inguruan bildutako zibilizazioak izan dira,
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with the first ones around the Mediterranean,
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lehenengoak Meditarraneo itsasoaren inguruan,
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the more recent ones in the ascendents of Western power around the Atlantic.
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gertatu berrienak, Mendebaldearen goranzko boterean, Atlantikoaren inguruan.
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Well it seems to me
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Eta nire ustez, orokorrean,
08:09
that we're now seeing a fundamental shift of power, broadly speaking,
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boterearen funtsezko aldaketa ikusten ari gara,
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away from nations gathered around the Atlantic [seaboard]
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Atlantikoaren eta kostaldearen inguruan bildutako nazio hartatik,
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to the nations gathered around the Pacific rim.
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Ozeano Barearen arroaren inguruan bildutakoetara.
08:17
Now that begins with economic power,
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Eta prozesu hori botere ekonomikoarekin hasten da,
08:19
but that's the way it always begins.
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baina horrela hasten da beti.
08:21
You already begin to see the development of foreign policies,
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Atzerri-politikaren garapena ikusten hasi egiten dugu,
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the augmentation of military budgets
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armada-aurrekontuen gorakada
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occurring in the other growing powers in the world.
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munduaren goraldian botereen artean.
08:29
I think actually
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Eta benetan sinesten dut
08:31
this is not so much a shift from the West to the East;
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hori Mendebaldetik Ekialdera aldaketa ez dela:
08:33
something different is happening.
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zerbait desberdin suertatzen ari da.
08:35
My guess is, for what it's worth,
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Nire iritzian
08:37
is that the United States will remain
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EEBBek jarraituko dute izaten
08:39
the most powerful nation on earth
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Lurraren nazio boteretsuena
08:41
for the next 10 years, 15,
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hurrengo 10 edo 15 urteotan,
08:44
but the context in which she holds her power
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baina bere boterearen testuingurua
08:47
has now radically altered; it has radically changed.
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zeharo aldatu egin da.
08:50
We are coming out of 50 years,
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Azkenengo 50 urtetatik irten ari gara,
08:52
most unusual years, of history
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historiaren ezohizko denboraldia,
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in which we have had a totally mono-polar world,
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non polobakarreko mundua zegoen,
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in which every compass needle
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non iparorratzaren orratz bakoitza,
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for or against
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alde edo kontra,
09:01
has to be referenced by its position to Washington --
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Washington-en loturarekiko aipatzen zen,
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a world bestrode by a single colossus.
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koloso bakarreko batek mundu menderatua.
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But that's not a usual case in history.
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Baina hori ez da arrunta Historian.
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In fact, what's now emerging
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Izan ere, gaur egun sortzen ari dena
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is the much more normal case of history.
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normalena da Historiaren osoan zehar.
09:14
You're beginning to see the emergence
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Mundu multipolarraren
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of a multi-polar world.
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agertzea ikusten ari gara.
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Up until now,
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Orain arte,
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the United States has been the dominant feature of our world.
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EEBBak gure munduaren fakzio boteretsuena izan dira.
09:23
They will remain the most powerful nation,
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Haiek jarraituko dute nazio boteretsuena izaten,
09:25
but they will be the most powerful nation
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baina horrela izango da
09:27
in an increasingly multi-polar world.
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gero eta mundu multipolar handiago batean.
09:29
And you begin to see the alternative centers of power building up --
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Eta beste botere-gune batzuk hasi dira eraikitzen,
09:32
in China, of course,
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Txina, jakina:
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though my own guess is that China's ascent to greatness is not smooth.
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baina nire ustez Txinaren goraldia handitasunera ez da otzan izango.
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It's going to be quite grumpy
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baizik eta zakarra,
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as China begins to democratize her society
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Txina bere gizartea demokratizatzen den heinean,
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after liberalizing her economy.
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bere ekonomia liberalizatu eta gero.
09:43
But that's a subject of a different discussion.
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Baina hori beste eztabaida mota bat da.
09:46
You see India, you see Brazil.
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Ikus ezazue India, Brasil.
09:48
You see increasingly
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Mundu horrek
09:50
that the world now looks actually, for us Europeans,
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europarrok ezagutu genuenaren antza du,
09:53
much more like Europe in the 19th century.
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XIX. mendearen Europa.
09:56
Europe in the 19th century:
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XIX. mendearen Europa:
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a great British foreign secretary, Lord Canning,
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Lord Canning-ek, kanpo harremanen idazkari handi britaniarra,
10:00
used to describe it as the "European concert of powers."
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"Botere Europarren Kontzertua" aipatu zuen.
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There was a balance, a five-sided balance.
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Bost alditako oreka zegoen.
10:05
Britain always played to the balance.
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Britain Handia beti orekaren bila zihoan.
10:08
If Paris got together with Berlin,
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Paris-ek Berlin-ekin biltzen bazuen,
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Britain got together with Vienna and Rome to provide a counterbalance.
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Britain Handiak Viena-rekin eta Roma-rekin biltzen zituen kontrapisua sortzeko.
10:13
Now notice,
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Orain nabari dute,
10:15
in a period which is dominated by a mono-polar world,
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polobakarreko mundu batek menderatzeko eremua batean
10:17
you have fixed alliances --
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aliantza finko daudela:
10:19
NATO, the Warsaw Pact.
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OTAN, Varsoviako Ituna.
10:21
A fixed polarity of power
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Botere-polaritate finkoak
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means fixed alliances.
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esan nahi ditu aliantza finkoak.
10:25
But a multiple polarity of power
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Baina botere-polaritate anitzak
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means shifting and changing alliances.
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esan nahi ditu aldaketa eta aliantza aldakorrak.
10:29
And that's the world we're coming into,
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Eta mundu horretara goaz
10:31
in which we will increasingly see
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non gero eta gehiago ikusiko dugun
10:33
that our alliances are not fixed.
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gure aliantzak ez direla finko.
10:35
Canning, the great British foreign secretary once said,
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Canning-ek, kanpo harremanen idazkari handi britaniarrak behin esan zuen:
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"Britain has a common interest,
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"Britania Handiak badu amankomuneko interesa,
10:39
but no common allies."
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baina ez du amankomuneko aliaturik".
10:41
And we will see increasingly
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Eta gero eta gehiago ikusiko dugu
10:43
that even we in the West
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guk geuk, Mendebaldean ere,
10:45
will reach out, have to reach out,
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lortu behar izango dugula
10:47
beyond the cozy circle of the Atlantic powers
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besteekin aliantzak egitea,
10:49
to make alliances with others
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Atlantikoko botereen elkarte atseginez bestalde
10:51
if we want to get things done in the world.
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batez ere, zerbait egin nahi badugu munduan.
10:54
Note, that when we went into Libya,
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Begira ezazue Libian sartu ginenean,
10:56
it was not good enough for the West to do it alone;
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ez zen nahikorik Mendebaldeentzat bakarrik egitea;
10:58
we had to bring others in.
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beste batzuk ekarri behar genituen.
11:00
We had to bring, in this case, the Arab League in.
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gertaera honetan Arabiar Estatuen Liga ekarri behar genuen.
11:03
My guess is Iraq and Afghanistan are the last times
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Nire ustez, Irak eta Afganistan izan dira azkenengo adibidea
11:06
when the West has tried to do it themselves,
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non Mendebaldea bakarrik egitea saiatu zen,
11:08
and we haven't succeeded.
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eta ez genuen lortu.
11:10
My guess
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Nire hipotesia da
11:12
is that we're reaching the beginning of the end of 400 years --
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400 urtetako amaieraren hasierara heltzear gaudela.
11:15
I say 400 years because it's the end of the Ottoman Empire --
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Eta 400 urte aipatzen dut, Otomandar Inperioaren amaiera delako,
11:18
of the hegemony of Western power,
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Mendebaldeko boterearen lehentasunarena,
11:20
Western institutions and Western values.
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Mendebaldeko baloreen eta instituzioenak.
11:24
You know, up until now, if the West got its act together,
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Eta jakin badakizue, orain arte, Mendebaldeak elkarrekin aritu bazuen,
11:27
it could propose and dispose
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proposa eta agindu zezakeen
11:29
in every corner of the world.
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munduaren edozein txokotan,
11:31
But that's no longer true.
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hori ez da jadanik egia.
11:33
Take the last financial crisis
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Begira ezazue azkenengo finantza-krisia,
11:35
after the Second World War.
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2. Mundu Gerra amaitu ostean.
11:37
The West got together --
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Mendebaldea lotu zen
11:39
the Bretton Woods Institution, World Bank, International Monetary Fund --
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Bretton Woods-en instituzioarekin, Nazioarteko Diru Funtsa,
11:42
the problem solved.
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eta horrela arazoa konpondu zen.
11:44
Now we have to call in others.
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Orain beste herri batzuk deitzea komenigarria da.
11:46
Now we have to create the G20.
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Orain beharrezkoa da G-20a sortzea.
11:48
Now we have to reach beyond the cozy circle
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Orain gure lagun mendebaldarren
11:50
of our Western friends.
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elkarte atseginez bestalde joan behar dugu.
11:52
Let me make a prediction for you,
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Eman baimena iragarpena egiteko
11:54
which is probably even more startling.
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zein are harrigarriagoa den.
11:57
I suspect we are now reaching the end
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400 urtetako amaierara heltzen ari garela
12:00
of 400 years
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susmatzen dut
12:02
when Western power was enough.
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non Mendebaldeko boterea nahikorik zen.
12:04
People say to me, "The Chinese, of course,
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Pertsonek esaten didate: "Txinatarrek, jakina,
12:06
they'll never get themselves involved
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ez dute inoiz parte hartuko
12:08
in peace-making, multilateral peace-making around the world."
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munduaren inguruko baketze aldeaniztuan".
12:10
Oh yes? Why not?
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Ah, bai? Zergatik ez?
12:12
How many Chinese troops
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Zenbat soldadu txinatarrak
12:14
are serving under the blue beret, serving under the blue flag,
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daude gaur egun kasko urdinen zerbitzuetara,
12:16
serving under the U.N. command in the world today?
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ikur urdinarena, NBaren menpean?
12:18
3,700.
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3,700.
12:20
How many Americans? 11.
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Zenbat estatubatuarrak? 11.
12:23
What is the largest naval contingent
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Zein da itsasontzi-kuota handiena
12:25
tackling the issue of Somali pirates?
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Somaliako itsas-piraten kontrako arazoa aurka egiteko?
12:28
The Chinese naval contingent.
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Txinako itsasontzi-kuota.
12:30
Of course they are, they are a mercantilist nation.
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Bai jakina, Txina nazio merkantilista da.
12:32
They want to keep the sea lanes open.
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Haiek itsas-bideak zabalik mantendu nahi dituzte.
12:34
Increasingly, we are going to have to do business
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Gero eta negozio gehiago egin behar izango ditugu
12:37
with people with whom we do not share values,
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balorerik partekatzen ez ditugun pertsonekin, nahiz eta
12:40
but with whom, for the moment, we share common interests.
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interes berdinak partekatu.
12:43
It's a whole new different way
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Orain sortzen ari den munduaren
12:45
of looking at the world that is now emerging.
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ikuspegi guztiz ezberdina da.
12:48
And here's the third factor,
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Eta hirugarren faktorea,
12:50
which is totally different.
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guztiz ezberdina da.
12:53
Today in our modern world,
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Gaur egun gure munduan,
12:55
because of the Internet,
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Interneten dela eta,
12:57
because of the kinds of things people have been talking about here,
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eta han jorratutako gaiak direla eta,
13:00
everything is connected to everything.
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dena elkarrekin lotuta dago.
13:04
We are now interdependent.
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elkarrekin menpekoak gara.
13:06
We are now interlocked,
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Elkarrekin lotuta gaude,
13:08
as nations, as individuals,
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nazio gisa, gizaki gisa,
13:10
in a way which has never been the case before,
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inoiz gertatu ez den heinean;
13:12
never been the case before.
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inoiz ez.
13:15
The interrelationship of nations,
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Nazioen elkarrekiko lotura,
13:17
well it's always existed.
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beti zegoen.
13:19
Diplomacy is about managing the interrelationship of nations.
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Nazioen elkarrekiko loturaren kudeaketa da diplomazia.
13:22
But now we are intimately locked together.
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Baina orain guztiz elkarrekin lotuta gaude.
13:24
You get swine flu in Mexico,
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Mexikon txerri-gripea kutsatzen baduzue,
13:26
it's a problem for Charles de Gaulle Airport
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Pariseko Charles de Gaulle aireporturako arazo galanta izango da
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24 hours later.
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24 ordu eta gero.
13:30
Lehman Brothers goes down, the whole lot collapses.
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Lehman Brothers-ek porrot egiten badu, dena kolapsatu.
13:33
There are fires in the steppes of Russia,
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Rusiako estepetan suteak daude,
13:36
food riots in Africa.
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Afrikan gosete-matxinadak.
13:38
We are all now deeply, deeply, deeply interconnected.
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Guztiz elkarrekin lotuta gaude.
13:42
And what that means
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Eta horrek esan nahi du
13:45
is the idea of a nation state acting alone,
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nazio bakar baten ideia
13:49
not connected with others,
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beste nazioekin elkarrekiko loturarik gabe,
13:51
not working with others,
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beste nazioekin lan egin gabe,
13:53
is no longer a viable proposition.
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ez da proposamen bideragarri inoiz ere.
13:55
Because the actions of a nation state
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Zeren Estatu-nazio baten ekintzak
13:58
are neither confined to itself,
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ez dira bere existentzian murrizten,
14:00
nor is it sufficient for the nation state itself
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ez da beharrezkoa Estatu-nazioarentzat
14:02
to control its own territory,
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bere lurraldea kontrolatzea,
14:04
because the effects outside the nation state
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Estatu-nazioaren kanpoko efektuek
14:07
are now beginning to affect what happens inside them.
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eragiten dute bere baitan.
14:10
I was a young soldier
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Ni soldadu gaztea nintzen
14:12
in the last of the small empire wars of Britain.
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azkenengo gerra inperial britaniarren bitartean.
14:16
At that time, the defense of my country
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Garai hartan, nire herriaren defentsa
14:18
was about one thing and one thing only:
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oinarritzen zen
14:21
how strong was our army, how strong was our air force,
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gure armadaren boterean, gure aireko indarran,
14:24
how strong was our navy and how strong were our allies.
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gure itsas armadan eta gure aliatuetan.
14:26
That was when the enemy was outside the walls.
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Garai hartan etsaia harresien kanpo zegoen.
14:28
Now the enemy is inside the walls.
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Orain etsaia barruan dago.
14:31
Now if I want to talk about the defense of my country,
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Orain, nire herriaren defentsari buruz hitz egin nahi izango banu,
14:33
I have to speak to the Minister of Health
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Osasun ministroarekin hitz egin behar dut,
14:35
because pandemic disease is a threat to my security,
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gaixo pandemikoak nire segurtasunerako mehatxua direlako.
14:38
I have to speak to the Minister of Agriculture
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Nekazaritza ministroarekin hitz egin behar dut,
14:40
because food security is a threat to my security,
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elikagai-segurtasuna nire segurtasunerako mehatxua delako.
14:42
I have to speak to the Minister of Industry
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Baita Industria ministroarekin ere,
14:46
because the fragility of our hi-tech infrastructure
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goi mailako teknologiaren gure azpiegituraren hauskortasuna,
14:49
is now a point of attack for our enemies --
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gure etsaien itua delako,
14:51
as we see from cyber warfare --
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gerra zibernetikoetan ikusten den bezala.
14:53
I have to speak to the Minister of Home Affairs
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Barne ministroekin hitz egin behar dut,
14:56
because who has entered my country,
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zeren nire herrira sartu zen pertsona,
14:58
who lives in that terraced house in that inner city
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auzo bazterrekoen etxe elkarri atxiki horretan bizi den pertsona
15:01
has a direct effect on what happens in my country --
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(haiek) nire herrian gertatutakoekin badituen ondorio zuzena,
15:03
as we in London saw in the 7/7 bombings.
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Londres-eko Uztailaren 7ko erasoetan ikusi genuen bezala.
15:07
It's no longer the case that the security of a country
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Orain herri baten segurtasunak
15:10
is simply a matter for its soldiers and its ministry of defense.
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ez du zerikusirik soldaduekin ezta Defentsa ministroekin ere.
15:13
It's its capacity to lock together its institutions.
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Baizik eta instituzioak estutzeko eta bateratzeko ahalmenarekin.
15:16
And this tells you something very important.
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Eta horrek zerbait garrantzitsua erakusten du.
15:19
It tells you that, in fact,
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Izan ere, (hark) erakusten du
15:21
our governments, vertically constructed,
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bertikalki egindako gure gobernuek,
15:24
constructed on the economic model of the Industrial Revolution --
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Industri-Iraultzaren eredua jarraituz --
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vertical hierarchy, specialization of tasks,
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hierarkia bertikalekin, lan-espezializazioekin,
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command structures --
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arduradun-estrukturekin --
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have got the wrong structures completely.
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(haiek) guztiz estruktura okerrak izan direla.
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You in business know
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Jakin badakigu, negozioetan
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that the paradigm structure of our time, ladies and gentlemen,
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gure garaiko paradigma, jaun-andreak
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is the network.
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sarea dela.
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It's your capacity to network that matters,
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Ardura dagoena, elkarrekiko lotura da,
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both within your governments and externally.
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gobernuen barruan zein kanpokoaldekoekin.
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So here is Ashdown's third law.
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Orduan hemen dago Ashdown-en hirugarren legea
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By the way, don't ask me about Ashdown's first law and second law
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Aizue, ez didate lehenengoari eta bigarrenari buruz galdetzen,
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because I haven't invented those yet;
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oraindik asmatu ez nituelako.
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it always sounds better if there's a third law, doesn't it?
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Onena da hirugarren legea egotea, ezta?
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Ashdown's third law is that in the modern age,
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Ashdown-en hirugarren legeak dio aro garaikidean
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where everything is connected to everything,
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non dena elkarreriko lotuta dagoen
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the most important thing about what you can do
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egin dezakegun garrantzi handikoa da
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is what you can do with others.
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besteekin egiten ditugunak (ekintzak).
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The most important bit about your structure --
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Estrukturaren eremu garrantzitsuena,
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whether you're a government, whether you're an army regiment,
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gobernuan zein armadaren erregimentuan,
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whether you're a business --
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edo negozio batean,
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is your docking points, your interconnectors,
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artikulazio-puntuak, elkarrekiko loturak izango dira,
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your capacity to network with others.
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besteekin elkarrekiko lotzeko ahalmena.
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You understand that in industry;
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Industri-eremuan badakite,
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governments don't.
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gobernuetan oraindik ez.
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But now one final thing.
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Eta azkena,
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If it is the case, ladies and gentlemen -- and it is --
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Horrela bada, jaun-andreak... eta izan bada,
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that we are now locked together
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elkarrekiko lotu egitea
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in a way that has never been quite the same before,
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lehen gertatatu inoiz ez zen moduan,
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then it's also the case that we share a destiny with each other.
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orduan, besteekin ere patua partekatzen dugu.
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Suddenly and for the very first time,
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Bat-batean eta lehenengo aldiz,
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collective defense, the thing that has dominated us
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talde-defentsa, nagusi izan zaigun ideia
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as the concept of securing our nations,
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hau da, gure nazioen segurtasunaren ideia,
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is no longer enough.
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ez da jadanik nahikorik.
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It used to be the case
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Bazen behin
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that if my tribe was more powerful than their tribe, I was safe;
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nire tribua besteak baino boteretsuagoa bazen, salbu nengoen;
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if my country was more powerful than their country, I was safe;
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nire herria besteak baino boteretsuagoa bazen, segur nengoen;
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my alliance, like NATO, was more powerful than their alliance, I was safe.
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nire aliantza, e.b OTAN, beste aliantza baino boteretsuagoa bazen, salbu nengoen.
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It is no longer the case.
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Gaur egun ez da horrela gertatzen.
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The advent of the interconnectedness
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Elkarrekiko loturaren etorrerak
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and of the weapons of mass destruction
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baita suntsiketa askoren armak ere
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means that, increasingly,
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esan nahi du, gero eta patu handiagoa da,
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I share a destiny with my enemy.
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nire etsaiarekin partekatzen dudana.
17:02
When I was a diplomat
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Diplomazialaria izan nintzenean, lortu genuen akordio arrakastatsua
17:04
negotiating the disarmament treaties with the Soviet Union
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Soviet Batasunarekiko desarmatze-itunen negoziazioan,
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in Geneva in the 1970s,
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Genevan, 1970eko hamarkadan,
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we succeeded because we understood
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haiekin patua partekatzen genuen ideia
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we shared a destiny with them.
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ulertu genuelako.
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Collective security is not enough.
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Segurtasun kolektiboa ez da nahikorik.
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Peace has come to Northern Ireland
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Bakea Ipar Irlandara heldu zen bi taldeek ulertu zutelako
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because both sides realized that the zero-sum game couldn't work.
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zero-gehiketa jokua ez litzatekeela ibiliko.
17:21
They shared a destiny with their enemies.
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Haiek euren etsiekin patua partekatzen dute.
17:24
One of the great barriers to peace in the Middle East
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Ekialde Ertainan bakerako oztopo handienetariko bat da
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is that both sides, both Israel and, I think, the Palestinians,
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bi taldeek, Israel zein palestinarrak,
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do not understand
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ulertzen ez duten
17:31
that they share a collective destiny.
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patu kolektiboa partekatzen duten ideia.
17:34
And so suddenly, ladies and gentlemen,
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Eta bat-batean, jaun-andreak,
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what has been the proposition
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poeten eta ameslarien proposamena
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of visionaries and poets down the ages
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mendeetan zehar,
17:41
becomes something we have to take seriously
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serioski hartu behar dugun ideia bihurtzen da
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as a matter of public policy.
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politika publikoaren gertaera bezala.
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I started with a poem, I'll end with one.
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Poema batekin hasi eta beste batekin amaituko dut.
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The great poem of John Donne's.
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John Donne-ren poema handia:
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"Send not for whom the bell tolls."
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"Ez galdetu kanpaiak jotzen ari den pertsonaz"
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The poem is called "No Man is an Island."
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Poema deitzen da: "Inor ez da uhartea".
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And it goes:
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Eta horrela dio:
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"Every man's death affected me,
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"Edozein gizakiren heriotzak gutxitzen nau,
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for I am involved in mankind,
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gizateriaren partaidea naizelako,
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send not to ask
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hots, ez galdetu
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for whom the bell tolls,
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kanpaiak jotzen ari den pertsonaz,
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it tolls for thee."
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zutaz jotzen ari dira"
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For John Donne, a recommendation of morality.
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John Donne-rentzat, moraltasunaren ikasgaia da.
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For us, I think,
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Guretzat, nire ustez,
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part of the equation for our survival.
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gure biziraupenarako ekuaziaoren zatia da.
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Thank you very much.
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Mila esker
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(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
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