3 clues to understanding your brain | VS Ramachandran

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Well, as Chris pointed out, I study the human brain,
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the functions and structure of the human brain.
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And I just want you to think for a minute about what this entails.
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Here is this mass of jelly, three-pound mass of jelly
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you can hold in the palm of your hand,
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and it can contemplate the vastness of interstellar space.
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It can contemplate the meaning of infinity
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and it can contemplate itself contemplating on the meaning of infinity.
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And this peculiar recursive quality that we call self-awareness,
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which I think is the holy grail of neuroscience, of neurology,
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and hopefully, someday, we'll understand how that happens.
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OK, so how do you study this mysterious organ?
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I mean, you have 100 billion nerve cells,
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little wisps of protoplasm, interacting with each other,
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and from this activity emerges the whole spectrum of abilities
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that we call human nature and human consciousness.
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How does this happen?
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Well, there are many ways of approaching the functions of the human brain.
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One approach, the one we use mainly,
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is to look at patients with sustained damage to a small region of the brain,
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where there's been a genetic change in a small region of the brain.
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What then happens is not an across-the-board reduction
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in all your mental capacities,
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a sort of blunting of your cognitive ability.
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What you get is a highly selective loss of one function,
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with other functions being preserved intact,
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and this gives you some confidence in asserting
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that that part of the brain is somehow involved in mediating that function.
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So you can then map function onto structure,
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and then find out what the circuitry's doing
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to generate that particular function.
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So that's what we're trying to do.
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So let me give you a few striking examples of this.
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In fact, I'm giving you three examples, six minutes each, during this talk.
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The first example is an extraordinary syndrome called Capgras syndrome.
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If you look at the first slide there,
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that's the temporal lobes, frontal lobes, parietal lobes, OK --
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the lobes that constitute the brain.
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And if you look, tucked away inside the inner surface of the temporal lobes --
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you can't see it there --
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is a little structure called the fusiform gyrus.
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And that's been called the face area in the brain,
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because when it's damaged, you can no longer recognize people's faces.
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You can still recognize them from their voice
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and say, "Oh yeah, that's Joe,"
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but you can't look at their face and know who it is, right?
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You can't even recognize yourself in the mirror.
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I mean, you know it's you because you wink and it winks,
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and you know it's a mirror,
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but you don't really recognize yourself as yourself.
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OK. Now that syndrome is well known as caused by damage to the fusiform gyrus.
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But there's another rare syndrome, so rare, in fact,
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that very few physicians have heard about it, not even neurologists.
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This is called the Capgras delusion,
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and that is a patient, who's otherwise completely normal,
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has had a head injury, comes out of coma,
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otherwise completely normal, he looks at his mother
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and says, "This looks exactly like my mother, this woman,
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but she's an impostor.
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She's some other woman pretending to be my mother."
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Now, why does this happen?
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Why would somebody -- and this person is perfectly lucid and intelligent
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in all other respects, but when he sees his mother,
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his delusion kicks in and says, it's not mother.
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Now, the most common interpretation of this,
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which you find in all the psychiatry textbooks,
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is a Freudian view, and that is that this chap --
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and the same argument applies to women, by the way,
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but I'll just talk about guys.
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When you're a little baby, a young baby,
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you had a strong sexual attraction to your mother.
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This is the so-called Oedipus complex of Freud.
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I'm not saying I believe this,
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but this is the standard Freudian view.
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And then, as you grow up, the cortex develops,
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and inhibits these latent sexual urges towards your mother.
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Thank God, or you would all be sexually aroused when you saw your mother.
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And then what happens is,
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there's a blow to your head, damaging the cortex,
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allowing these latent sexual urges to emerge,
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flaming to the surface, and suddenly and inexplicably
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you find yourself being sexually aroused by your mother.
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And you say, "My God, if this is my mom,
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how come I'm being sexually turned on?
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She's some other woman. She's an impostor."
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It's the only interpretation that makes sense to your damaged brain.
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This has never made much sense to me, this argument.
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It's very ingenious, as all Freudian arguments are --
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(Laughter)
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-- but didn't make much sense because I have seen the same delusion,
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a patient having the same delusion, about his pet poodle.
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(Laughter)
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He'll say, "Doctor, this is not Fifi. It looks exactly like Fifi,
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but it's some other dog." Right?
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Now, you try using the Freudian explanation there.
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(Laughter)
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You'll start talking about the latent bestiality in all humans,
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or some such thing, which is quite absurd, of course.
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Now, what's really going on?
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So, to explain this curious disorder,
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we look at the structure and functions of the normal visual pathways in the brain.
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Normally, visual signals come in, into the eyeballs,
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go to the visual areas in the brain.
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There are, in fact, 30 areas in the back of your brain concerned with just vision,
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and after processing all that, the message goes to a small structure
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called the fusiform gyrus, where you perceive faces.
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There are neurons there that are sensitive to faces.
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You can call it the face area of the brain, right?
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I talked about that earlier.
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Now, when that area's damaged, you lose the ability to see faces, right?
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But from that area, the message cascades
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into a structure called the amygdala in the limbic system,
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the emotional core of the brain,
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and that structure, called the amygdala,
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gauges the emotional significance of what you're looking at.
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Is it prey? Is it predator? Is it mate?
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Or is it something absolutely trivial, like a piece of lint,
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or a piece of chalk, or a -- I don't want to point to that, but --
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or a shoe, or something like that? OK?
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Which you can completely ignore.
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So if the amygdala is excited, and this is something important,
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the messages then cascade into the autonomic nervous system.
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Your heart starts beating faster.
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You start sweating to dissipate the heat that you're going to
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create from muscular exertion.
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And that's fortunate, because we can put two electrodes on your palm
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and measure the change in skin resistance produced by sweating.
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So I can determine, when you're looking at something,
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whether you're excited or whether you're aroused, or not, OK?
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And I'll get to that in a minute.
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So my idea was, when this chap looks at an object, when he looks at his --
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any object for that matter, it goes to the visual areas and,
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however, and it's processed in the fusiform gyrus,
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and you recognize it as a pea plant, or a table,
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or your mother, for that matter, OK?
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And then the message cascades into the amygdala,
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and then goes down the autonomic nervous system.
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But maybe, in this chap, that wire that goes from the amygdala to the limbic system,
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the emotional core of the brain, is cut by the accident.
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So because the fusiform is intact,
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the chap can still recognize his mother,
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and says, "Oh yeah, this looks like my mother."
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But because the wire is cut to the emotional centers,
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he says, "But how come, if it's my mother, I don't experience a warmth?"
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Or terror, as the case may be? Right?
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(Laughter)
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And therefore, he says, "How do I account for this inexplicable lack of emotions?
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This can't be my mother.
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It's some strange woman pretending to be my mother."
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How do you test this?
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Well, what you do is, if you take any one of you here, and put you in front of a screen,
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and measure your galvanic skin response,
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and show pictures on the screen,
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I can measure how you sweat when you see an object,
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like a table or an umbrella. Of course, you don't sweat.
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If I show you a picture of a lion, or a tiger, or a pinup, you start sweating, right?
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And, believe it or not, if I show you a picture of your mother --
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I'm talking about normal people -- you start sweating.
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You don't even have to be Jewish.
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(Laughter)
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Now, what happens if you show this patient?
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You take the patient and show him pictures on the screen
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and measure his galvanic skin response.
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Tables and chairs and lint, nothing happens, as in normal people,
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but when you show him a picture of his mother,
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the galvanic skin response is flat.
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There's no emotional reaction to his mother,
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because that wire going from the visual areas to the emotional centers is cut.
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So his vision is normal because the visual areas are normal,
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his emotions are normal -- he'll laugh, he'll cry, so on and so forth --
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but the wire from vision to emotions is cut
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and therefore he has this delusion that his mother is an impostor.
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It's a lovely example of the sort of thing we do:
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take a bizarre, seemingly incomprehensible, neural psychiatric syndrome
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and say that the standard Freudian view is wrong,
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that, in fact, you can come up with a precise explanation
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in terms of the known neural anatomy of the brain.
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By the way, if this patient then goes,
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and mother phones from an adjacent room -- phones him --
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and he picks up the phone, and he says, "Wow, mom, how are you? Where are you?"
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There's no delusion through the phone.
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Then, she approaches him after an hour, he says, "Who are you?
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You look just like my mother." OK?
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The reason is there's a separate pathway
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going from the hearing centers in the brain to the emotional centers,
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and that's not been cut by the accident.
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So this explains why through the phone he recognizes his mother, no problem.
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When he sees her in person, he says it's an impostor.
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OK, how is all this complex circuitry set up in the brain?
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Is it nature, genes, or is it nurture?
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And we approach this problem
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by considering another curious syndrome called phantom limb.
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And you all know what a phantom limb is.
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When an arm is amputated, or a leg is amputated, for gangrene,
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or you lose it in war -- for example, in the Iraq war,
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it's now a serious problem --
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you continue to vividly feel the presence of that missing arm,
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and that's called a phantom arm or a phantom leg.
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In fact, you can get a phantom with almost any part of the body.
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Believe it or not, even with internal viscera.
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I've had patients with the uterus removed -- hysterectomy --
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who have a phantom uterus, including phantom menstrual cramps
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at the appropriate time of the month.
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And in fact, one student asked me the other day,
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"Do they get phantom PMS?"
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(Laughter)
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A subject ripe for scientific enquiry, but we haven't pursued that.
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OK, now the next question is,
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what can you learn about phantom limbs by doing experiments?
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One of the things we've found was,
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about half the patients with phantom limbs
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claim that they can move the phantom.
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It'll pat his brother on the shoulder,
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it'll answer the phone when it rings, it'll wave goodbye.
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These are very compelling, vivid sensations.
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The patient's not delusional.
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He knows that the arm is not there,
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but, nevertheless, it's a compelling sensory experience for the patient.
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But however, about half the patients, this doesn't happen.
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The phantom limb -- they'll say, "But doctor, the phantom limb is paralyzed.
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It's fixed in a clenched spasm and it's excruciatingly painful.
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If only I could move it, maybe the pain will be relieved."
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Now, why would a phantom limb be paralyzed?
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It sounds like an oxymoron.
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But when we were looking at the case sheets, what we found was,
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these people with the paralyzed phantom limbs,
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the original arm was paralyzed because of the peripheral nerve injury.
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The actual nerve supplying the arm was severed,
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was cut, by say, a motorcycle accident.
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So the patient had an actual arm, which is painful,
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in a sling for a few months or a year, and then,
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in a misguided attempt to get rid of the pain in the arm,
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the surgeon amputates the arm,
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and then you get a phantom arm with the same pains, right?
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And this is a serious clinical problem.
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Patients become depressed.
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Some of them are driven to suicide, OK?
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So, how do you treat this syndrome?
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Now, why do you get a paralyzed phantom limb?
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When I looked at the case sheet, I found that they had an actual arm,
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and the nerves supplying the arm had been cut,
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and the actual arm had been paralyzed,
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and lying in a sling for several months before the amputation,
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and this pain then gets carried over into the phantom itself.
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Why does this happen?
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When the arm was intact, but paralyzed,
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the brain sends commands to the arm, the front of the brain, saying, "Move,"
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but it's getting visual feedback saying, "No."
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Move. No. Move. No. Move. No.
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And this gets wired into the circuitry of the brain,
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and we call this learned paralysis, OK?
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The brain learns, because of this Hebbian, associative link,
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that the mere command to move the arm
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creates a sensation of a paralyzed arm.
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And then, when you've amputated the arm,
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this learned paralysis carries over into your body image
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and into your phantom, OK?
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Now, how do you help these patients?
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How do you unlearn the learned paralysis,
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so you can relieve him of this excruciating, clenching spasm
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of the phantom arm?
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Well, we said, what if you now send the command to the phantom,
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but give him visual feedback that it's obeying his command, right?
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Maybe you can relieve the phantom pain, the phantom cramp.
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How do you do that? Well, virtual reality.
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But that costs millions of dollars.
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So, I hit on a way of doing this for three dollars,
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but don't tell my funding agencies.
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(Laughter)
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OK? What you do is you create what I call a mirror box.
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You have a cardboard box with a mirror in the middle,
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and then you put the phantom -- so my first patient, Derek, came in.
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He had his arm amputated 10 years ago.
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He had a brachial avulsion, so the nerves were cut
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and the arm was paralyzed, lying in a sling for a year, and then the arm was amputated.
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He had a phantom arm, excruciatingly painful, and he couldn't move it.
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It was a paralyzed phantom arm.
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So he came there, and I gave him a mirror like that, in a box,
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which I call a mirror box, right?
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And the patient puts his phantom left arm,
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which is clenched and in spasm, on the left side of the mirror,
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and the normal hand on the right side of the mirror,
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and makes the same posture, the clenched posture,
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and looks inside the mirror. And what does he experience?
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He looks at the phantom being resurrected,
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because he's looking at the reflection of the normal arm in the mirror,
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and it looks like this phantom has been resurrected.
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"Now," I said, "now, look, wiggle your phantom --
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your real fingers, or move your real fingers while looking in the mirror."
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He's going to get the visual impression that the phantom is moving, right?
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That's obvious, but the astonishing thing is,
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the patient then says, "Oh my God, my phantom is moving again,
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and the pain, the clenching spasm, is relieved."
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And remember, my first patient who came in --
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-- thank you. (Applause)
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My first patient came in, and he looked in the mirror,
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and I said, "Look at your reflection of your phantom."
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And he started giggling, he says, "I can see my phantom."
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But he's not stupid. He knows it's not real.
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He knows it's a mirror reflection,
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but it's a vivid sensory experience.
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Now, I said, "Move your normal hand and phantom."
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He said, "Oh, I can't move my phantom. You know that. It's painful."
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I said, "Move your normal hand."
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And he says, "Oh my God, my phantom is moving again. I don't believe this!
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And my pain is being relieved." OK?
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And then I said, "Close your eyes."
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He closes his eyes.
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"And move your normal hand."
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"Oh, nothing. It's clenched again."
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"OK, open your eyes."
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"Oh my God, oh my God, it's moving again!"
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So, he was like a kid in a candy store.
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So, I said, OK, this proves my theory about learned paralysis
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and the critical role of visual input,
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but I'm not going to get a Nobel Prize
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for getting somebody to move his phantom limb.
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(Laughter)
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(Applause)
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It's a completely useless ability, if you think about it.
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(Laughter)
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But then I started realizing, maybe other kinds of paralysis
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that you see in neurology, like stroke, focal dystonias --
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there may be a learned component to this,
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which you can overcome with the simple device of using a mirror.
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So, I said, "Look, Derek" --
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well, first of all, the guy can't just go around carrying a mirror to alleviate his pain --
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I said, "Look, Derek, take it home and practice with it for a week or two.
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Maybe, after a period of practice,
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you can dispense with the mirror, unlearn the paralysis,
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and start moving your paralyzed arm,
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and then, relieve yourself of pain."
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So he said OK, and he took it home.
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I said, "Look, it's, after all, two dollars. Take it home."
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So, he took it home, and after two weeks, he phones me,
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and he said, "Doctor, you're not going to believe this."
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I said, "What?"
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He said, "It's gone."
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I said, "What's gone?"
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I thought maybe the mirror box was gone.
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(Laughter)
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He said, "No, no, no, you know this phantom I've had for the last 10 years?
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It's disappeared."
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And I said -- I got worried, I said, my God,
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I mean I've changed this guy's body image,
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what about human subjects, ethics and all of that?
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And I said, "Derek, does this bother you?"
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He said, "No, last three days, I've not had a phantom arm
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and therefore no phantom elbow pain, no clenching,
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no phantom forearm pain, all those pains are gone away.
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But the problem is I still have my phantom fingers dangling from the shoulder,
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and your box doesn't reach."
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(Laughter)
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"So, can you change the design and put it on my forehead,
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so I can, you know, do this and eliminate my phantom fingers?"
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He thought I was some kind of magician.
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Now, why does this happen?
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It's because the brain is faced with tremendous sensory conflict.
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It's getting messages from vision saying the phantom is back.
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On the other hand, there's no proprioception,
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muscle signals saying that there is no arm, right?
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And your motor command saying there is an arm,
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and, because of this conflict, the brain says, to hell with it,
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there is no phantom, there is no arm, right?
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It goes into a sort of denial -- it gates the signals.
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And when the arm disappears, the bonus is, the pain disappears
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because you can't have disembodied pain floating out there, in space.
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So, that's the bonus.
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Now, this technique has been tried on dozens of patients
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by other groups in Helsinki,
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so it may prove to be valuable as a treatment for phantom pain,
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and indeed, people have tried it for stroke rehabilitation.
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Stroke you normally think of as damage to the fibers,
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nothing you can do about it.
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But, it turns out some component of stroke paralysis is also learned paralysis,
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and maybe that component can be overcome using mirrors.
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This has also gone through clinical trials,
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helping lots and lots of patients.
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OK, let me switch gears now to the third part of my talk,
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which is about another curious phenomenon called synesthesia.
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This was discovered by Francis Galton in the nineteenth century.
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He was a cousin of Charles Darwin.
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He pointed out that certain people in the population,
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who are otherwise completely normal, had the following peculiarity:
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every time they see a number, it's colored.
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Five is blue, seven is yellow, eight is chartreuse,
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nine is indigo, OK?
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Bear in mind, these people are completely normal in other respects.
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Or C sharp -- sometimes, tones evoke color.
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C sharp is blue, F sharp is green,
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another tone might be yellow, right?
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Why does this happen?
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This is called synesthesia. Galton called it synesthesia,
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a mingling of the senses.
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In us, all the senses are distinct.
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These people muddle up their senses.
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Why does this happen?
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One of the two aspects of this problem are very intriguing.
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Synesthesia runs in families,
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so Galton said this is a hereditary basis, a genetic basis.
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Secondly, synesthesia is about -- and this is what gets me to my point
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about the main theme of this lecture, which is about creativity --
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synesthesia is eight times more common among artists, poets, novelists
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and other creative people than in the general population.
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Why would that be?
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I'm going to answer that question.
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It's never been answered before.
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OK, what is synesthesia? What causes it?
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Well, there are many theories.
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One theory is they're just crazy.
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Now, that's not really a scientific theory, so we can forget about it.
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Another theory is they are acid junkies and potheads, right?
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Now, there may be some truth to this,
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because it's much more common here in the Bay Area than in San Diego.
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(Laughter)
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OK. Now, the third theory is that --
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well, let's ask ourselves what's really going on in synesthesia. All right?
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So, we found that the color area and the number area
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are right next to each other in the brain, in the fusiform gyrus.
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So we said, there's some accidental cross wiring
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between color and numbers in the brain.
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So, every time you see a number, you see a corresponding color,
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and that's why you get synesthesia.
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Now remember -- why does this happen?
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Why would there be crossed wires in some people?
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Remember I said it runs in families?
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That gives you the clue.
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And that is, there is an abnormal gene,
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a mutation in the gene that causes this abnormal cross wiring.
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In all of us, it turns out
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we are born with everything wired to everything else.
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So, every brain region is wired to every other region,
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and these are trimmed down to create
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the characteristic modular architecture of the adult brain.
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So, if there's a gene causing this trimming
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and if that gene mutates,
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then you get deficient trimming between adjacent brain areas.
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And if it's between number and color, you get number-color synesthesia.
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If it's between tone and color, you get tone-color synesthesia.
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So far, so good.
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Now, what if this gene is expressed everywhere in the brain,
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so everything is cross-connected?
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Well, think about what artists, novelists and poets have in common,
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the ability to engage in metaphorical thinking,
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linking seemingly unrelated ideas,
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such as, "It is the east, and Juliet is the Sun."
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Well, you don't say, Juliet is the sun,
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does that mean she's a glowing ball of fire?
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I mean, schizophrenics do that, but it's a different story, right?
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Normal people say, she's warm like the sun,
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she's radiant like the sun, she's nurturing like the sun.
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Instantly, you've found the links.
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Now, if you assume that this greater cross wiring
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and concepts are also in different parts of the brain,
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then it's going to create a greater propensity
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towards metaphorical thinking and creativity
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in people with synesthesia.
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And, hence, the eight times more common incidence of synesthesia
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among poets, artists and novelists.
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OK, it's a very phrenological view of synesthesia.
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The last demonstration -- can I take one minute?
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(Applause)
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OK. I'm going to show you that you're all synesthetes, but you're in denial about it.
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Here's what I call Martian alphabet. Just like your alphabet,
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A is A, B is B, C is C.
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Different shapes for different phonemes, right?
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Here, you've got Martian alphabet.
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One of them is Kiki, one of them is Bouba.
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Which one is Kiki and which one is Bouba?
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How many of you think that's Kiki and that's Bouba? Raise your hands.
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Well, it's one or two mutants.
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(Laughter)
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How many of you think that's Bouba, that's Kiki? Raise your hands.
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Ninety-nine percent of you.
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Now, none of you is a Martian. How did you do that?
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It's because you're all doing a cross-model synesthetic abstraction,
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meaning you're saying that that sharp inflection -- ki-ki,
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in your auditory cortex, the hair cells being excited -- Kiki,
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mimics the visual inflection, sudden inflection of that jagged shape.
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Now, this is very important, because what it's telling you
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is your brain is engaging in a primitive --
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it's just -- it looks like a silly illusion,
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but these photons in your eye are doing this shape,
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and hair cells in your ear are exciting the auditory pattern,
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but the brain is able to extract the common denominator.
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It's a primitive form of abstraction,
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and we now know this happens in the fusiform gyrus of the brain,
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because when that's damaged,
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these people lose the ability to engage in Bouba Kiki,
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but they also lose the ability to engage in metaphor.
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If you ask this guy, what -- "all that glitters is not gold,"
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what does that mean?"
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The patient says, "Well, if it's metallic and shiny, it doesn't mean it's gold.
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You have to measure its specific gravity, OK?"
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So, they completely miss the metaphorical meaning.
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So, this area is about eight times the size in higher --
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especially in humans -- as in lower primates.
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Something very interesting is going on here in the angular gyrus,
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because it's the crossroads between hearing, vision and touch,
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and it became enormous in humans. And something very interesting is going on.
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And I think it's a basis of many uniquely human abilities
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like abstraction, metaphor and creativity.
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All of these questions that philosophers have been studying for millennia,
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we scientists can begin to explore by doing brain imaging,
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and by studying patients and asking the right questions.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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Sorry about that.
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(Laughter)
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