This Is What LGBT Life Is Like Around the World | Jenni Chang and Lisa Dazols | TED Talks

Translator: Alessio Dioguardi Reviewer: Emma Toft

Jenni Chang: When I told my parents I was gay,

Da jeg sagde til mine forældre, at jeg var homoseksuel,

the first thing they said to me was,

den første ting, som de sagde mig var:

"We're bringing you back to Taiwan."

"Vi tager dig tilbage til Taiwan."

(Laughter)

(Latter)

In their minds, my sexual orientation was America's fault.

I deres tanker var min seksuelle orientering Amerikas skyld.

The West had corrupted me with divergent ideas,

Vesten korrumperede mig med anderledes idéer

and if only my parents had never left Taiwan,

og hvis bare mine forældre ikke havde forladt Taiwan,

this would not have happened to their only daughter.

var dette ikke sket for deres eneste datter.

In truth, I wondered if they were right.

Ærlig talt, jeg spørger mig selv, om de havde ret.

Of course, there are gay people in Asia,

Selvfølgeligt er der homoseksuelle folk i Asien,

just as there are gay people in every part of the world.

ligesom der er homoseksuelle mennesker i alle dele af verden.

But is the idea of living an "out" life,

Men er idéen om at bo i et "ude" liv,

in the "I'm gay, this is my spouse, and we're proud of our lives together"

hvor "jeg er homoseksuel, her er min ægtefælle og vi er stolt af vores liv sammen"

kind of way just a Western idea?

slags en vestlig idé?

If I had grown up in Taiwan, or any place outside of the West,

Hvis jeg havde vokset op i Taiwan, eller enhvert sted uden for Vesten,

would I have found models of happy, thriving LGBT people?

havde jeg fundet rollemodeller af glade, blomstrende LGBT mennesker?

Lisa Dazols: I had similar notions.

Jeg havde lignende forestillinger.

As an HIV social worker in San Francisco,

Som HIV socialarbejder i San Francisco,

I had met many gay immigrants.

mødte jeg mange homoseksuelle indvandrere.

They told me their stories of persecution in their home countries,

De fortalte mig deres historier om forfølgelse i deres hjemlande,

just for being gay,

bare for at være homoseksuel,

and the reasons why they escaped to the US.

og grundene de flygtede til USA.

I saw how this had beaten them down.

Jeg så, hvordan det slog dem ud.

After 10 years of doing this kind of work,

Efter 10 år i dette job,

I needed better stories for myself.

behøvede jeg bedre historier for mig selv.

I knew the world was far from perfect,

Jeg vidste, at verden var langt fra perfekt,

but surely not every gay story was tragic.

men sikkert var hver homoseksuel historie ikke tragisk.

JC: So as a couple, we both had a need to find stories of hope.

Derfor, som et par, havde vi begge to et behov for at finde historier af håb.

So we set off on a mission to travel the world

Derfor begyndte vi en mission, rejste rundt i hele verden

and look for the people we finally termed as the "Supergays."

og ledte efter menneskerne vi til sidst navngav "Supergays"

(Laughter)

(Latter)

These would be the LGBT individuals

Disse var de LGBT individer

who were doing something extraordinary in the world.

der var i færd med at gøre noget ektraordinær i verden.

They would be courageous, resilient,

De var modige, stærke,

and most of all, proud of who they were.

og, mere end alt, stolte af hvem de var.

They would be the kind of person that I aspire to be.

De var den slags mennesker, som jeg ville være.

Our plan was to share their stories to the world through film.

Vores plan var at dele deres historier med verden gennem film.

LD: There was just one problem.

Det var bare et problem.

We had zero reporting and zero filmmaking experience.

Vi havde hverken erfaring i reportage eller at lave film.

(Laughter)

(Latter)

We didn't even know where to find the Supergays,

Vi vidste kke hvor vi kunne finde disse "Supergays",

so we just had to trust that we'd figure it all out along the way.

Så vi måtte bare tro på at vi fandt ud af det undervejs.

So we picked 15 countries in Asia, Africa and South America,

Vi udvalgte 15 lande i Asien, Afrika og Sydamerika,

countries outside the West that varied in terms of LGBT rights.

lande udenfor Vesten, der havde anderledes LGBT rettigheder.

We bought a camcorder,

Vi købte en videokamera,

ordered a book on how to make a documentary --

købte en bog om hvordan man laver en dokumentar --

(Laughter)

(Latter)

you can learn a lot these days --

du kan lære meget idag --

and set off on an around-the-world trip.

og begyndte at rejse verden rundt.

JC: One of the first countries that we traveled to was Nepal.

Et af de første lande vi rejste til var Nepal.

Despite widespread poverty, a decade-long civil war,

Selvom udbredt fattigdom, en årti-lang borgerkrig,

and now recently, a devastating earthquake,

og for nylig, et ødelæggende jordskælv,

Nepal has made significant strides in the fight for equality.

har Nepal taget betydelige skridt i kampen for lighed.

One of the key figures in the movement is Bhumika Shrestha.

En af hovedfigurerne i bevægelsen er Bhumika Shrestha.

A beautiful, vibrant transgendered woman,

En smuk, vital transkønnede kvinde.

Bhumika has had to overcome being expelled from school

Bhumika måtte gennemleve at blive bortvist fra skolen

and getting incarcerated because of her gender presentation.

og at blive sat i fængsel pga sin kønsfremtoning.

But, in 2007, Bhumika and Nepal's LGBT rights organization

Men i 2007, rejste Bhumika og Nepals organisation for LGBT-rettigheder

successfully petitioned the Nepali Supreme Court

begærede, succesfuldt, Nepals Højesteret

to protect against LGBT discrimination.

for beskyttelse mod LGBT-diskrimination.

Here's Bhumika:

Her er Bhumika

(Video) BS: What I'm most proud of?

(Video) Hvad er jeg stoltest over?

I'm a transgendered person.

Jeg er en transkvinde.

I'm so proud of my life.

Jeg er meget stolt over mit liv.

On December 21, 2007,

Den 21 December 2007

the supreme court gave the decision for the Nepal government

pålagde Højesterettens afgørelse Nepals Parlament

to give transgender identity cards

at transkønnede kan få kønsskift i identifikationspapirer

and same-sex marriage.

og ret til homovielser.

LD: I can appreciate Bhumika's confidence on a daily basis.

Jeg kan værdsætte Bhumnikas sikkerhed dagligt.

Something as simple as using a public restroom

Noget lige så let som bruge et offentligt toilet

can be a huge challenge when you don't fit in

kan være en stor udfordring, når du ikke passe til

to people's strict gender expectations.

menneskers strenge køns forventninger.

Traveling throughout Asia,

Når vi rejste gennem Asien,

I tended to freak out women in public restrooms.

skræmte jeg kvinder på offentlige toiletter.

They weren't used to seeing someone like me.

Det var ikke normalt for dem at se nogen som mig.

I had to come up with a strategy, so that I could just pee in peace.

Jeg skulle opfinde en strategi, så kunne jeg tisse i fred.

(Laughter)

(Latter)

So anytime I would enter a restroom,

Altså, da jeg gik ind i et toilet,

I would thrust out my chest to show my womanly parts,

drev jeg ud mit bryst for at vise mine kvindelige dele og

and try to be as non-threatening as possible.

prøve at være lige så uskadelig som mulig.

Putting out my hands and saying, "Hello",

Jeg lagte min hånd ud og sagde "hej",

just so that people could hear my feminine voice.

bare for at lade mennesker høre min kvindelige stemme.

This all gets pretty exhausting, but it's just who I am.

Dette blive meget trættende, men det er bare hvem jeg er.

I can't be anything else.

Jeg kan ikke være noget andet.

JC: After Nepal, we traveled to India.

Efter Nepal rejste vi til Indien.

On one hand, India is a Hindu society,

På en side er Indien et hindu samfund,

without a tradition of homophobia.

uden tradition for homofobi.

On the other hand, it is also a society with a deeply patriarchal system,

På den anden side, det er også et samfund med en stærk patriarkalsk system,

which rejects anything that threatens the male-female order.

der afviser hvilken som helst ting, som truer den mandlig-kvindelig orden.

When we spoke to activists,

Da vi talte med aktivister,

they told us that empowerment begins with ensuring proper gender equality,

fortalte de os, at selvtillid begynder ved at sikre en ordentlig kønslighed,

where the women's status is established in society.

hvor kvinders status er etableret i samfund.

And in that way, the status of LGBT people can be affirmed as well.

Og på denne måde, LGBT menneskers status kan blive bekræftet ligeså.

LD: There we met Prince Manvendra.

Der mødte vi Prins Manvendra.

He's the world's first openly gay prince.

Han er verdens første offentlig homoseksuelle prins.

Prince Manvendra came out on the "Oprah Winfrey Show,"

Prins Manvendra kom ud på "Oprah Winfrey Show",

very internationally.

meget internationalt.

His parents disowned him

Forældrene fornægtede ham

and accused him of bringing great shame to the royal family.

og beskyldte ham af bringe stor skam til kongehuset.

We sat down with Prince Manvendra

Vi sad ned med Prins Manvendra

and talked to him about why he decided to come out so very publicly.

og talte med ham om hvorfor han valgte at komme ud så virkeligt offentligt.

Here he is:

Her er han:

(Video) Prince Manvendra: I felt there was a lot of need

(Video) Jeg følte, at det var et stort behov

to break this stigma and discrimination which is existing in our society.

for at bryde stigma og diskrimination, der findes i vores samfund.

And that instigated me to come out openly and talk about myself.

Og det tilskyndede mig til at komme ud offenltigt og tale om mig selv.

Whether we are gay, we are lesbian, we are transgender, bisexual

Uanset om vi er bøsse, vi er lesbisk, vi er transkønnede, biseksuelle

or whatever sexual minority we come from,

eller hvilken seksuel mindretal vi kommer,

we have to all unite and fight for our rights.

vi bør alle forene og kæmpe for vores retter.

Gay rights cannot be won in the court rooms,

Homoseksuellerettigheder kan ikke blive vundet i retssal,

but in the hearts and the minds of the people.

men i menneskers hjerter og forstand.

JC: While getting my hair cut,

Mens jeg fik mit hår klippet,

the woman cutting my hair asked me,

spurgte kvinden, der kilppede mit hår, mig

"Do you have a husband?"

"Har du en ægtemand?"

Now, this was a dreaded question

Nu, det var et frygteligt spørgsmål,

that I got asked a lot by locals while traveling.

som jeg blev spurgt meget af indbyggere mens vi rejste.

When I explained to her that I was with a woman instead of a man,

Da jeg forklarede hende, at jeg var sammen med en kvinde i stedet af en mand,

she was incredulous,

blev hun skeptisk,

and she asked me a lot of questions about my parents' reactions

og spurgte mig mange spørgsmåle om mine forældres reaktion

and whether I was sad that I'd never be able to have children.

og om jeg var trist, at jeg aldrig ville få børn.

I told her that there are no limitations to my life

Jeg sagte til hende, at det ikke er begrænsing i mit liv

and that Lisa and I do plan to have a family some day.

og at Lisa og jeg planlægger at have en familie en dag.

Now, this woman was ready to write me off

Nu, denne kvinde var klar til at kalde mig

as yet another crazy Westerner.

endnu en andre tosse fra Vesten.

She couldn't imagine that such a phenomenon

Hun kunne ikke tro, at sådan et fænomen

could happen in her own country.

kunne ske i hendes land.

That is, until I showed her the photos of the Supergays

Det var til vi viste hende billederne af de Supergays,

that we interviewed in India.

som vi interviewede i Indien.

She recognized Prince Manvendra from television

Hun genkendte Prins Manvendra fra fjernsyn

and soon I had an audience of other hairdressers

og snart havde jeg et publikum af andre frisører

interested in meeting me.

interesseret i møde mig.

(Laughter)

(Latter)

And in that ordinary afternoon,

Og i den normale eftermiddag

I had the chance to introduce an entire beauty salon

havde jeg chancen for at præsentere en hel skønsalon

to the social changes that were happening in their own country.

til de samfundsforandringer, der skete i deres land.

LD: From India, we traveled to East Africa,

Fra Indien rejste vi til Øst Afrika,

a region known for intolerance towards LGBT people.

en region kendt for intolerance mod LGBT mennesker.

In Kenya, 89 percent of people who come out to their families

89% af mennesker, der komme ud til deres familier i Kenya,

are disowned.

bliver fornægtet.

Homosexual acts are a crime and can lead to incarceration.

Homoseksuelle handlinger er forbrydelser og kunne lede til fængsling.

In Kenya, we met the soft-spoken David Kuria.

I Kenya mødte vi blide David Kuria.

David had a huge mission of wanting to work for the poor

David havde en stor opgave af at ville arbejde for de fattige

and improve his own government.

og forbedre hans regering.

So he decided to run for senate.

Derfor valgte ham at stille op til senatet.

He became Kenya's first openly gay political candidate.

Han blev Kenyas første offentligt homoseksuelle politisk kandidat.

David wanted to run his campaign without denying the reality of who he was.

David ville føre hans kampagne uden at benægte virkeligheden af hvem han var.

But we were worried for his safety

Men vi var bange for hans tryghed

because he started to receive death threats.

fordi han begyndte at få dødstrusler.

(Video) David Kuria: At that point, I was really scared

Jeg var virkeligt bange

because they were actually asking for me to be killed.

fordi man virkeligt bad om at jeg blev slået ihjel.

And, yeah,

Og ja,

there are some people out there who do it

det er mennesker derude som gør det,

and they feel that they are doing a religious obligation.

og de føler, at de udfører en religiøs forpligtelse.

JC: David wasn't ashamed of who he was.

David var ikke flov over hvem han var.

Even in the face of threats,

Selv med truslerne,

he stayed authentic.

forblev han autentisk.

LD: At the opposite end of the spectrum is Argentina.

I den modsatte side af spektret ligger Argentina.

Argentina's a country where 92 percent of the population identifies as Catholic.

Det er et land, hvor 92% af befolkning identificere sig selv som romersk-katolsk.

Yet, Argentina has LGBT laws that are even more progressive

Alligevel har Argentina LGBT retter, som er endnu mere fremadskridende

than here in the US.

end her i USA.

In 2010, Argentina became the first country in Latin America

I 2010 blev Argentine det første land i Latinamerika

and the 10th in the world to adopt marriage equality.

og den tiende i verden, som vedkendte bryllupslighed.

There, we met María Rachid.

Her mødte vi Maria Richid.

María was a driving force behind that movement.

Maria var en hovedstyrke i denne bevægelse.

María Rachid (Spanish): I always say that, in reality,

I virkeligheden siger jeg altid,

the effects of marriage equality

at effekterne af bryllupslighed

are not only for those couples that get married.

er ikke bare for de par, som gifter sig.

They are for a lot of people that, even though they may never get married,

De er for mange mennesker, der uden at blive gift

will be perceived differently by their coworkers,

bliver kigget på anderledes af deres kolleger,

their families and neighbors,

familier og naboer,

from the national state's message of equality.

fra landets nationale besked af lighed.

I feel very proud of Argentina

Jeg føle meget stolt af Argentina

because Argentina today is a model of equality.

fordi i dag er Argentina et eksempel af lighed.

And hopefully soon,

Og forhåbentligt snart

the whole world will have the same rights.

vil hele verden have de samme rettigheder.

JC: When we made the visit to my ancestral lands,

Da vi besøgte min slægtsland,

I wish I could have shown my parents what we found there.

håbede jeg at vi kunne vise mine forældre, hvad vi fandt der.

Because here is who we met:

Fordi her er hvem vi mødte:

(Video) One, two, three. Welcome gays to Shanghai!

En, to, tre. Velkomme homoseksuelle til Shanghai!

(Laughter)

(Latter)

A whole community of young, beautiful Chinese LGBT people.

Et helt samfund af unge, smukke kinesiske LGBT mennesker.

Sure, they had their struggles.

Sikkert havde de deres kampe.

But they were fighting it out.

Men de kæmpede imod det.

In Shanghai, I had the chance to speak to a local lesbian group

I Shanghai fik jeg muligheden for at tale med en lokal gruppe af lesbiske kvinder

and tell them our story in my broken Mandarin Chinese.

og fortælle dem vores historie på mit rustne mandarin.

In Taipei, each time we got onto the metro,

I Taipei, hver gang vi tog metroen

we saw yet another lesbian couple holding hands.

så vi et andet lesbisk par holde i hånd.

And we learned that Asia's largest LGBT pride event

Og vi lærte, at Asiens største LGBT Pride begivenhed

happens just blocks away from where my grandparents live.

sker nogle blokke væk fra hvor mine bedsteforældre boede.

If only my parents knew.

Hvis bare mine forældre vidste det.

LD: By the time we finished our not-so-straight journey around the world,

Da vi endte vores ikke-så-straight rejse rundt om verden,

(Laughter)

(Latter)

we had traveled 50,000 miles

havde vi rejst 50,000 mil

and logged 120 hours of video footage.

og filmet 120 timer af videoer.

We traveled to 15 countries

Vi rejste til 15 land

and interviewed 50 Supergays.

og interviewede 50 Supergays.

Turns out, it wasn't hard to find them at all.

Vi lærte at det ikke var svært at finde dem.

JC: Yes, there are still tragedies that happen

JC: Ja, der er stadig tragedier, som sker

on the bumpy road to equality.

på den ujævne vej til lighed.

And let's not forget that 75 countries still criminalize homosexuality today.

Og vi bør ikke glemme, at 75 lande straffer stadig homoseksualitet idag.

But there are also stories of hope and courage

Men der er også historier om håb og mod

in every corner of the world.

i hvert hjørne af verden.

What we ultimately took away from our journey is,

Hvad vi, i sidste ende, lærte fra vores rejse er,

equality is not a Western invention.

at lighed er ikke en vestlig opfindelse.

LD: One of the key factors in this equality movement is momentum,

Én af de hovedfaktor i denne lighedsbevægelse er fremdrift,

momentum as more and more people embrace their full selves

fremdrift når flere og flere mennesker omfavner sit fulde selv

and use whatever opportunities they have

og bruge hvilken som helst muligheder, de har

to change their part of the world,

for at ændre deres del af verden,

and momentum as more and more countries

og fremdrift når flere og flere lande

find models of equality in one another.

finder modeller af lighed i hinanden.

When Nepal protected against LGBT discrimination,

Da Nepal beskyttede mod LGBT diskrimination,

India pushed harder.

pressede Indien hårdere på.

When Argentina embraced marriage equality,

Da Argentina omfavnede bryllupslighed,

Uruguay and Brazil followed.

fulgte Uruguay og Brasilien.

When Ireland said yes to equality,

Da Irland sagte ja til lighed,

(Applause)

(Bifald)

the world stopped to notice.

bemærkede verden det.

When the US Supreme Court makes a statement to the world

Når USAs Højesteret laver en erklæring til verden,

that we can all be proud of.

som vi kan være stolte af.

(Applause)

(Bifald)

JC: As we reviewed our footage,

Når vi genså vores videoer,

what we realized is that we were watching a love story.

hvad vi forstod var, at vi var i færd med at se en kærlighedshistorie.

It wasn't a love story that was expected of me,

Jeg forventede ikke en kærlighedshistorie,

but it is one filled with more freedom, adventure and love

men det er én fyldt med mere frihed, eventyr og kærlighed

than I could have ever possibly imagined.

end jeg nogensinde kunne have forestillet mig.

One year after returning home from our trip,

Et år efter at vi kom hjem fra vores rejse,

marriage equality came to California.

kom bryllupslighed til California.

And in the end, we believe, love will win out.

Og til sidst tror vi kærlighed vil vinde.

(Video) By the power vested in me,

(Video) Med den kraft som er tildelt mig,

by the state of California

af staten Californien,

and by God Almighty,

og af Gud den Almægtige,

I now pronounce you spouses for life.

forkynder jeg jer at være ægtefæller.

You may kiss.

I må kysse.

(Applause)

(Bifald)