This Is What LGBT Life Is Like Around the World | Jenni Chang and Lisa Dazols | TED Talks

Translator: Elena López Argudo Reviewer: Carme Rossell

Jenni Chang: When I told my parents I was gay,

Quan vaig dir als pares que era lesbiana

the first thing they said to me was,

el primer que em van dir va ser:

"We're bringing you back to Taiwan."

"Et tornarem de cap a Taiwan."

(Laughter)

(Riuen)

In their minds, my sexual orientation was America's fault.

Per ells, la meva orientació sexual era culpa d'Amèrica.

The West had corrupted me with divergent ideas,

Occident m'havia corromput amb idees divergents,

and if only my parents had never left Taiwan,

i si els pares no haguessin marxat mai de Taiwan,

this would not have happened to their only daughter.

això no li hauria passat a la seva única filla.

In truth, I wondered if they were right.

El cert és que em preguntava si tenien raó.

Of course, there are gay people in Asia,

És clar que hi ha homosexuals a l'Àsia,

just as there are gay people in every part of the world.

igual que hi ha homosexuals arreu del món.

But is the idea of living an "out" life,

Però viure fora de l'armari i dir

in the "I'm gay, this is my spouse, and we're proud of our lives together"

"Soc lesbiana, ella és la meva dona, i estem orgulloses de la nostra vida"

kind of way just a Western idea?

és una idea només occidental?

If I had grown up in Taiwan, or any place outside of the West,

Si hagués crescut a Taiwan, o a qualsevol lloc fora d'Occident,

would I have found models of happy, thriving LGBT people?

hauria trobat models de persones LGBT felices,

Lisa Dazols: I had similar notions.

Jo pensava igual.

As an HIV social worker in San Francisco,

Com a treballadora social a San Francisco,

I had met many gay immigrants.

he conegut molts immigrants homosexuals.

They told me their stories of persecution in their home countries,

M'explicaven les seves històries de persecució als seus països,

just for being gay,

només per ser homosexuals,

and the reasons why they escaped to the US.

i les raons perquè van escapar als Estats Units.

I saw how this had beaten them down.

I veia com això els havia marcat.

After 10 years of doing this kind of work,

Després de 10 anys fent la mateixa feina

I needed better stories for myself.

necessitava històries més maques.

I knew the world was far from perfect,

Sabia que el món no era perfecte,

but surely not every gay story was tragic.

però segur que no totes les vides eren terribles.

JC: So as a couple, we both had a need to find stories of hope.

Com a parella, necessitàvem trobar històries d'esperança.

So we set off on a mission to travel the world

Vam sortir amb la missió de viatjar pel món

and look for the people we finally termed as the "Supergays."

i buscar gent a qui vam definir com 'Superhomos'.

(Laughter)

(Riuen)

These would be the LGBT individuals

Serien les persones de la comunitat LGBT

who were doing something extraordinary in the world.

que feien coses extraordinàries al món.

They would be courageous, resilient,

Serien valents, forts,

and most of all, proud of who they were.

i sobre tot, orgullosos de qui són.

They would be the kind of person that I aspire to be.

Serien el tipus de persones que jo aspiro a ser.

Our plan was to share their stories to the world through film.

El pla era compartir les seves històries amb el món amb una pel·lícula.

LD: There was just one problem.

Només hi havia un problema.

We had zero reporting and zero filmmaking experience.

No teníem cap tipus d'experiència en fer reportatges.

(Laughter)

(Riures)

We didn't even know where to find the Supergays,

Ni tan sols sabíem on trobar els Superhomos,

so we just had to trust that we'd figure it all out along the way.

havíem de confiar en què ja ens ensortiríem.

So we picked 15 countries in Asia, Africa and South America,

Vam escollir 15 països a l'Àsia, l'Àfrica i Amèrica de Sud,

countries outside the West that varied in terms of LGBT rights.

països no occidentals que diferien en qüestió de drets per als LGBT.

We bought a camcorder,

Vam comprar una càmera,

ordered a book on how to make a documentary --

un llibre sobre com fer documentals...

(Laughter)

(Riuen)

you can learn a lot these days --

-es pot aprendre molt, avui dia-

and set off on an around-the-world trip.

i vam marxar a fer la volta al món.

JC: One of the first countries that we traveled to was Nepal.

Un dels primers països va ser el Nepal.

Despite widespread poverty, a decade-long civil war,

Malgrat la pobresa, 10 anys de guerra civil,

and now recently, a devastating earthquake,

i, recentment, un terratrèmol,

Nepal has made significant strides in the fight for equality.

el Nepal ha fet grans avenços en la lluita per la igualtat.

One of the key figures in the movement is Bhumika Shrestha.

Una de les líders del moviment és la Bhumika Shrestha.

A beautiful, vibrant transgendered woman,

Una dona transgènere, bella i enèrgica.

Bhumika has had to overcome being expelled from school

La Bhumika ha hagut de superar que la fessin fora de l'escola

and getting incarcerated because of her gender presentation.

i que la fiquessin a la presó per la seva identitat de gènere.

But, in 2007, Bhumika and Nepal's LGBT rights organization

Però el 2007, la Bhumika i l'organització pels drets dels LGBT al Nepal

successfully petitioned the Nepali Supreme Court

van fer arribar una petició al Tribunal suprem del Nepal

to protect against LGBT discrimination.

per a protegir els LGBT de la discriminació.

Here's Bhumika:

Aquesta és la Bhumika:

(Video) BS: What I'm most proud of?

De què estic més orgullosa?

I'm a transgendered person.

Sóc transgénere.

I'm so proud of my life.

I estic molt orgullosa de la meva vida.

On December 21, 2007,

El 21 de desembre de 2007,

the supreme court gave the decision for the Nepal government

el Tribunal Superior va ordenar al govern del Nepal

to give transgender identity cards

donar documents d'identificació transgèneres

and same-sex marriage.

i aprovar el matrimoni homosexual.

LD: I can appreciate Bhumika's confidence on a daily basis.

Li agraeixo la confiança en el dia a dia.

Something as simple as using a public restroom

Una cosa tan simple com anar a un lavabo públic

can be a huge challenge when you don't fit in

pot ser un gran repte quan no encaixes

to people's strict gender expectations.

dins les rígides espectatives de génere de la gent.

Traveling throughout Asia,

Viatjant per l'Àsia,

I tended to freak out women in public restrooms.

les dones s'esgarrifaven quan em veien als lavabos públics.

They weren't used to seeing someone like me.

No estaven acostumades a veure algú com jo.

I had to come up with a strategy, so that I could just pee in peace.

Havia d'inventar estratègies per poder pixar en pau.

(Laughter)

(Riuen)

So anytime I would enter a restroom,

Cada cop que entrava a un lavabo,

I would thrust out my chest to show my womanly parts,

feia el pit endavant i mostrar les meves parts femenines,

and try to be as non-threatening as possible.

i intentar no ser tan intimidant.

Putting out my hands and saying, "Hello",

Saludava amb les mans i deia "Hola",

just so that people could hear my feminine voice.

de manera que la gent sentís la meva veu femenina.

This all gets pretty exhausting, but it's just who I am.

Tot això es força cansat, però és el que sóc.

I can't be anything else.

No puc ser altra cosa.

JC: After Nepal, we traveled to India.

Després del Nepal, vam viatjar a l'Índia.

On one hand, India is a Hindu society,

D'una banda, l'Índia és una societat hindú,

without a tradition of homophobia.

sense tradició homofòbica.

On the other hand, it is also a society with a deeply patriarchal system,

D'altra banda, és una societat amb un profund sistema patriarcal,

which rejects anything that threatens the male-female order.

que rebutja tot allò que alteri l'ordre home-dona.

When we spoke to activists,

Quan parlàrem amb els activistes,

they told us that empowerment begins with ensuring proper gender equality,

ens van dir que l'empoderament comença quan es garanteix la igualtat de gènere,

where the women's status is established in society.

quan l'estatus de la dona és establert a la societat.

And in that way, the status of LGBT people can be affirmed as well.

I d'aquesta manera, l'estatus dels LGBT també es pot afermar.

LD: There we met Prince Manvendra.

Allà vam conéixer el príncep Manvendra.

He's the world's first openly gay prince.

És el primer príncep obertament gai al món.

Prince Manvendra came out on the "Oprah Winfrey Show,"

Va sortir de l'armari al show de l'Oprah Winfrey,

very internationally.

internacionalment.

His parents disowned him

Els seus pares el van repudiar

and accused him of bringing great shame to the royal family.

i el van acusar de portar la vergonya a la família reial.

We sat down with Prince Manvendra

Ens vam asseure amb el Príncep

and talked to him about why he decided to come out so very publicly.

i vam parlar sobre per què va decidir fer-ho de manera tan pública.

Here he is:

Aquest és ell:

(Video) Prince Manvendra: I felt there was a lot of need

"Creia que era necessari

to break this stigma and discrimination which is existing in our society.

trencar l'estigma i la discriminació que hi ha a la nostra societat.

And that instigated me to come out openly and talk about myself.

Això em va fer sortir públicament i parlar de mi mateix.

Whether we are gay, we are lesbian, we are transgender, bisexual

Siguem gais, lesbianes, transgènere, bisexuals

or whatever sexual minority we come from,

o qualsevol altra minoria sexual,

we have to all unite and fight for our rights.

ens hem d'unir tots i lluitar pels nostres drets.

Gay rights cannot be won in the court rooms,

Els drets dels LGBT no es poden guanyar als tribunals,

but in the hearts and the minds of the people.

sinó als cors i les ments de la gent."

JC: While getting my hair cut,

Quan em tallava els cabells,

the woman cutting my hair asked me,

la perruquera em va preguntar,

"Do you have a husband?"

"Tens marit?"

Now, this was a dreaded question

És una pregunta delicada

that I got asked a lot by locals while traveling.

que la gent local m'ha fet sovint durant els viatges.

When I explained to her that I was with a woman instead of a man,

Quan li vaig dir que estava amb una dona i no amb un home,

she was incredulous,

no s'ho acabava de creure,

and she asked me a lot of questions about my parents' reactions

i em va fer moltes preguntes sobre la reacció dels meus pares

and whether I was sad that I'd never be able to have children.

i si estava trista perquè mai no podria tenir fills.

I told her that there are no limitations to my life

Li vaig dir que a la meva vida no hi havia limitacions

and that Lisa and I do plan to have a family some day.

i que la Lisa i jo planejem tenir família algun dia.

Now, this woman was ready to write me off

En aquell moment va pensar

as yet another crazy Westerner.

que jo era una altra boja occidental.

She couldn't imagine that such a phenomenon

No podia imaginar que aquell fenomen

could happen in her own country.

pogués passar al seu propi país.

That is, until I showed her the photos of the Supergays

Fins que vaig mostrar-li les fotos dels Superhomos

that we interviewed in India.

que vam entrevistar a l'Índia

She recognized Prince Manvendra from television

Va reconèixer el príncep Manvendra de la tele

and soon I had an audience of other hairdressers

i de seguida es van apropar les altres noies

interested in meeting me.

curioses per conèixe'm.

(Laughter)

(Riuen)

And in that ordinary afternoon,

Aquella tarda ordinària

I had the chance to introduce an entire beauty salon

vaig tenir la oportunitat d'explicar a tota la perruqueria

to the social changes that were happening in their own country.

els canvis socials del seu propi país.

LD: From India, we traveled to East Africa,

De l'Índia vam passar a l'Àfrica de l'est,

a region known for intolerance towards LGBT people.

coneguda per la seva intolerància envers els LGBT.

In Kenya, 89 percent of people who come out to their families

A Kenya, el 89% de la gent que surt de l'armari

are disowned.

és repudiat per la família.

Homosexual acts are a crime and can lead to incarceration.

Els actes homosexuals són delictes que poden portar a la presó.

In Kenya, we met the soft-spoken David Kuria.

A Kenya, vam conèixer un home amb la veu molt suau, David Kuria.

David had a huge mission of wanting to work for the poor

David s'havia proposat la missió de treballar pels pobres

and improve his own government.

i millorar el seu govern.

So he decided to run for senate.

I decidí pesentar-se per al Senat.

He became Kenya's first openly gay political candidate.

Va ser el primer candidat polític obertament gai de Kenya.

David wanted to run his campaign without denying the reality of who he was.

El David volia fer la seva campanya sense negar la realitat de qui era.

But we were worried for his safety

Però ens preocupava la seguretat

because he started to receive death threats.

perquè va començar a rebre amenaces de mort.

(Video) David Kuria: At that point, I was really scared

"En aquell moment tenia por

because they were actually asking for me to be killed.

perquè demanaven que em matessin.

And, yeah,

I sí,

there are some people out there who do it

hi ha persones que ho fan

and they feel that they are doing a religious obligation.

i pensen que estan complint amb una obligació religiosa."

JC: David wasn't ashamed of who he was.

No s'avergonyia del que era.

Even in the face of threats,

Fins i tot amb les amenaces

he stayed authentic.

es va mantenir autèntic.

LD: At the opposite end of the spectrum is Argentina.

A l'altra banda de l'espectre està l'Argentina.

Argentina's a country where 92 percent of the population identifies as Catholic.

A l'Argentina, el 92% de la gent es considera catòlica.

Yet, Argentina has LGBT laws that are even more progressive

Tanmateix, tenen lleis que són fins i tot més progressives

than here in the US.

que les que tenim als EUA.

In 2010, Argentina became the first country in Latin America

El 2010, l'Argentina va ser el primer país llatinoamericà

and the 10th in the world to adopt marriage equality.

i el 10è al món a legalitzar els matrimonis homosexuals.

There, we met María Rachid.

Allà vam conèixer la María Rachid.

María was a driving force behind that movement.

María era la força impulsora darrera el moviment.

María Rachid (Spanish): I always say that, in reality,

"Sempre dic que, de fet,

the effects of marriage equality

els efectes de la igualtat

are not only for those couples that get married.

no són només per les persones que es casen.

They are for a lot of people that, even though they may never get married,

Són per a molta més gent que, encara que no es casi mai,

will be perceived differently by their coworkers,

seran mirats de manera diferent pels companys,

their families and neighbors,

per la família i pels veïns,

from the national state's message of equality.

a partir d'aquest missatge d'igualtat per part de l'Estat.

I feel very proud of Argentina

Estic molt orgullosa de l'Argentina

because Argentina today is a model of equality.

perquè avui dia l'Argentina és un model d'igualtat.

And hopefully soon,

I esperem que aviat

the whole world will have the same rights.

hi hagi els mateixos drets a tot el món."

JC: When we made the visit to my ancestral lands,

Quan vam visitar la terra dels meus ancestres,

I wish I could have shown my parents what we found there.

vaig desitjar haver ensenyat als pares el que hi vam trobar.

Because here is who we met:

Aquí ho teniu:

(Video) One, two, three. Welcome gays to Shanghai!

"Un, dos, tres. Benvinguts, homosexuals, a Shangai!"

(Laughter)

(Riuen)

A whole community of young, beautiful Chinese LGBT people.

Una magnífica comunitat de joves chinesos LGBT.

Sure, they had their struggles.

És clar que tenien conflictes.

But they were fighting it out.

Però s'hi enfrontaven.

In Shanghai, I had the chance to speak to a local lesbian group

A Shangai, vaig poder parlar amb un grup de lesbianes locals

and tell them our story in my broken Mandarin Chinese.

i els vaig explicar la nostra història en el meu mal chinès.

In Taipei, each time we got onto the metro,

A Taipei, cada cop que pujavem al metro,

we saw yet another lesbian couple holding hands.

trobàvem una altra parella de lesbianes de la mà.

And we learned that Asia's largest LGBT pride event

I vam saber que l'esdeveniment LGBT més gran d'Àsia

happens just blocks away from where my grandparents live.

se celebra només a uns blocs d'on vivien els meus avis.

If only my parents knew.

Si ho sabessin els meus pares.

LD: By the time we finished our not-so-straight journey around the world,

Quan vam acabar el nostres viatges, amb alguna desviació,

(Laughter)

(Riuen)

we had traveled 50,000 miles

havíem recorregut 80.000 km

and logged 120 hours of video footage.

i enregistrat 120 hores de metratge.

We traveled to 15 countries

Vam visitar 15 països

and interviewed 50 Supergays.

i entrevistat 50 Superhomos.

Turns out, it wasn't hard to find them at all.

No va resultar difícil trobar-los.

JC: Yes, there are still tragedies that happen

És cert que encara hi ha tragèdies

on the bumpy road to equality.

al camí ple de sotracs cap a l'igualtat.

And let's not forget that 75 countries still criminalize homosexuality today.

I no hem d'oblidar que encara avui dia 75 països criminalitzen l'homosexualitat.

But there are also stories of hope and courage

Però també hi ha històries d'esperança i coratge

in every corner of the world.

a cada racó del món.

What we ultimately took away from our journey is,

El que vam extreure del nostre viatge

equality is not a Western invention.

és que la igualtat no és una invenció occidental.

LD: One of the key factors in this equality movement is momentum,

Un dels factors claus del moviment és l'empenta,

momentum as more and more people embrace their full selves

l'empenta que fa que cada cop més gent s'accepti com és

and use whatever opportunities they have

i aprofiti qualsevol oportunitat

to change their part of the world,

per canviar la seva part del món,

and momentum as more and more countries

i l'empenta que fa que cada cop més països

find models of equality in one another.

trobin model d'igualtat al voltant.

When Nepal protected against LGBT discrimination,

Quan el Nepal va protegir els LGBT contra la discriminació,

India pushed harder.

l'Índia va anar més enllà.

When Argentina embraced marriage equality,

Quan l'Argentina va legalitzar el matrimoni homosexual,

Uruguay and Brazil followed.

l'Uruguay i el Brasil ho van fer també.

When Ireland said yes to equality,

Quan Irlanda va dir sí a la igualtat,

(Applause)

(Aplaudiments)

the world stopped to notice.

el món es va parar a observar.

When the US Supreme Court makes a statement to the world

Quan el Tribunal Suprem dels EUA pren una decisió

that we can all be proud of.

de la qual estar orgullosos.

(Applause)

(Aplaudiments)

JC: As we reviewed our footage,

Quan revisàvem els videos,

what we realized is that we were watching a love story.

ens vam adonar que estàvem mirant una història d'amor.

It wasn't a love story that was expected of me,

No és la història d'amor m'esperava,

but it is one filled with more freedom, adventure and love

sinó una més plena de llibertat, aventura i amor

than I could have ever possibly imagined.

del que mai hagués pogut imaginar.

One year after returning home from our trip,

Un any després d'haver tornat del nostre viatge

marriage equality came to California.

el matrimoni gai va arribar a Califòrnia.

And in the end, we believe, love will win out.

I pensem que, al final, l'amor ho pot tot.

(Video) By the power vested in me,

"Pel poder que m'atorga,

by the state of California

l'estat de Califòrnia

and by God Almighty,

i Déu Totpoderós,

I now pronounce you spouses for life.

jo us declaro unides en matrimoni.

You may kiss.

Us poder fer un petó."

(Applause)

(Aplaudiment)