This Is What LGBT Life Is Like Around the World | Jenni Chang and Lisa Dazols | TED Talks

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Jenni Chang: When I told my parents I was gay,
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the first thing they said to me was,
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"We're bringing you back to Taiwan."
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(Laughter)
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In their minds, my sexual orientation was America's fault.
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The West had corrupted me with divergent ideas,
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and if only my parents had never left Taiwan,
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this would not have happened to their only daughter.
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In truth, I wondered if they were right.
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Of course, there are gay people in Asia,
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just as there are gay people in every part of the world.
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But is the idea of living an "out" life,
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in the "I'm gay, this is my spouse, and we're proud of our lives together"
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kind of way just a Western idea?
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If I had grown up in Taiwan, or any place outside of the West,
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would I have found models of happy, thriving LGBT people?
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Lisa Dazols: I had similar notions.
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As an HIV social worker in San Francisco,
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I had met many gay immigrants.
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They told me their stories of persecution in their home countries,
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just for being gay,
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and the reasons why they escaped to the US.
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I saw how this had beaten them down.
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After 10 years of doing this kind of work,
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I needed better stories for myself.
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I knew the world was far from perfect,
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but surely not every gay story was tragic.
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JC: So as a couple, we both had a need to find stories of hope.
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So we set off on a mission to travel the world
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and look for the people we finally termed as the "Supergays."
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(Laughter)
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These would be the LGBT individuals
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who were doing something extraordinary in the world.
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They would be courageous, resilient,
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and most of all, proud of who they were.
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They would be the kind of person that I aspire to be.
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Our plan was to share their stories to the world through film.
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LD: There was just one problem.
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We had zero reporting and zero filmmaking experience.
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(Laughter)
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We didn't even know where to find the Supergays,
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so we just had to trust that we'd figure it all out along the way.
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So we picked 15 countries in Asia, Africa and South America,
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countries outside the West that varied in terms of LGBT rights.
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We bought a camcorder,
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ordered a book on how to make a documentary --
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(Laughter)
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you can learn a lot these days --
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and set off on an around-the-world trip.
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JC: One of the first countries that we traveled to was Nepal.
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Despite widespread poverty, a decade-long civil war,
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and now recently, a devastating earthquake,
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Nepal has made significant strides in the fight for equality.
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One of the key figures in the movement is Bhumika Shrestha.
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A beautiful, vibrant transgendered woman,
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Bhumika has had to overcome being expelled from school
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and getting incarcerated because of her gender presentation.
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But, in 2007, Bhumika and Nepal's LGBT rights organization
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successfully petitioned the Nepali Supreme Court
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to protect against LGBT discrimination.
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Here's Bhumika:
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(Video) BS: What I'm most proud of?
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I'm a transgendered person.
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I'm so proud of my life.
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On December 21, 2007,
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the supreme court gave the decision for the Nepal government
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to give transgender identity cards
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and same-sex marriage.
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LD: I can appreciate Bhumika's confidence on a daily basis.
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Something as simple as using a public restroom
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can be a huge challenge when you don't fit in
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to people's strict gender expectations.
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Traveling throughout Asia,
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I tended to freak out women in public restrooms.
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They weren't used to seeing someone like me.
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I had to come up with a strategy, so that I could just pee in peace.
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(Laughter)
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So anytime I would enter a restroom,
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I would thrust out my chest to show my womanly parts,
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and try to be as non-threatening as possible.
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Putting out my hands and saying, "Hello",
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just so that people could hear my feminine voice.
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This all gets pretty exhausting, but it's just who I am.
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I can't be anything else.
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JC: After Nepal, we traveled to India.
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On one hand, India is a Hindu society,
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without a tradition of homophobia.
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On the other hand, it is also a society with a deeply patriarchal system,
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which rejects anything that threatens the male-female order.
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When we spoke to activists,
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they told us that empowerment begins with ensuring proper gender equality,
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where the women's status is established in society.
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And in that way, the status of LGBT people can be affirmed as well.
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LD: There we met Prince Manvendra.
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He's the world's first openly gay prince.
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Prince Manvendra came out on the "Oprah Winfrey Show,"
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very internationally.
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His parents disowned him
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and accused him of bringing great shame to the royal family.
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We sat down with Prince Manvendra
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and talked to him about why he decided to come out so very publicly.
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Here he is:
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(Video) Prince Manvendra: I felt there was a lot of need
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to break this stigma and discrimination which is existing in our society.
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And that instigated me to come out openly and talk about myself.
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Whether we are gay, we are lesbian, we are transgender, bisexual
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or whatever sexual minority we come from,
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we have to all unite and fight for our rights.
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Gay rights cannot be won in the court rooms,
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but in the hearts and the minds of the people.
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JC: While getting my hair cut,
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the woman cutting my hair asked me,
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"Do you have a husband?"
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Now, this was a dreaded question
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that I got asked a lot by locals while traveling.
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When I explained to her that I was with a woman instead of a man,
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she was incredulous,
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and she asked me a lot of questions about my parents' reactions
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and whether I was sad that I'd never be able to have children.
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I told her that there are no limitations to my life
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and that Lisa and I do plan to have a family some day.
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Now, this woman was ready to write me off
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as yet another crazy Westerner.
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She couldn't imagine that such a phenomenon
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could happen in her own country.
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That is, until I showed her the photos of the Supergays
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that we interviewed in India.
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She recognized Prince Manvendra from television
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and soon I had an audience of other hairdressers
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interested in meeting me.
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(Laughter)
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And in that ordinary afternoon,
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I had the chance to introduce an entire beauty salon
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to the social changes that were happening in their own country.
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LD: From India, we traveled to East Africa,
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a region known for intolerance towards LGBT people.
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In Kenya, 89 percent of people who come out to their families
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are disowned.
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Homosexual acts are a crime and can lead to incarceration.
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In Kenya, we met the soft-spoken David Kuria.
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David had a huge mission of wanting to work for the poor
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and improve his own government.
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So he decided to run for senate.
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He became Kenya's first openly gay political candidate.
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David wanted to run his campaign without denying the reality of who he was.
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But we were worried for his safety
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because he started to receive death threats.
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(Video) David Kuria: At that point, I was really scared
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because they were actually asking for me to be killed.
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And, yeah,
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there are some people out there who do it
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and they feel that they are doing a religious obligation.
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JC: David wasn't ashamed of who he was.
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Even in the face of threats,
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he stayed authentic.
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LD: At the opposite end of the spectrum is Argentina.
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Argentina's a country where 92 percent of the population identifies as Catholic.
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Yet, Argentina has LGBT laws that are even more progressive
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than here in the US.
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In 2010, Argentina became the first country in Latin America
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and the 10th in the world to adopt marriage equality.
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There, we met MarΓ­a Rachid.
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MarΓ­a was a driving force behind that movement.
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MarΓ­a Rachid (Spanish): I always say that, in reality,
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the effects of marriage equality
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are not only for those couples that get married.
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They are for a lot of people that, even though they may never get married,
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will be perceived differently by their coworkers,
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their families and neighbors,
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from the national state's message of equality.
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I feel very proud of Argentina
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because Argentina today is a model of equality.
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And hopefully soon,
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the whole world will have the same rights.
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JC: When we made the visit to my ancestral lands,
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I wish I could have shown my parents what we found there.
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Because here is who we met:
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(Video) One, two, three. Welcome gays to Shanghai!
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(Laughter)
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A whole community of young, beautiful Chinese LGBT people.
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Sure, they had their struggles.
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But they were fighting it out.
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In Shanghai, I had the chance to speak to a local lesbian group
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and tell them our story in my broken Mandarin Chinese.
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In Taipei, each time we got onto the metro,
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we saw yet another lesbian couple holding hands.
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And we learned that Asia's largest LGBT pride event
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happens just blocks away from where my grandparents live.
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If only my parents knew.
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LD: By the time we finished our not-so-straight journey around the world,
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(Laughter)
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we had traveled 50,000 miles
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and logged 120 hours of video footage.
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We traveled to 15 countries
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and interviewed 50 Supergays.
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Turns out, it wasn't hard to find them at all.
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JC: Yes, there are still tragedies that happen
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on the bumpy road to equality.
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And let's not forget that 75 countries still criminalize homosexuality today.
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But there are also stories of hope and courage
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in every corner of the world.
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What we ultimately took away from our journey is,
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equality is not a Western invention.
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LD: One of the key factors in this equality movement is momentum,
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momentum as more and more people embrace their full selves
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and use whatever opportunities they have
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to change their part of the world,
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and momentum as more and more countries
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find models of equality in one another.
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When Nepal protected against LGBT discrimination,
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India pushed harder.
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When Argentina embraced marriage equality,
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Uruguay and Brazil followed.
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When Ireland said yes to equality,
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(Applause)
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the world stopped to notice.
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When the US Supreme Court makes a statement to the world
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that we can all be proud of.
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(Applause)
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JC: As we reviewed our footage,
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what we realized is that we were watching a love story.
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It wasn't a love story that was expected of me,
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but it is one filled with more freedom, adventure and love
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than I could have ever possibly imagined.
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One year after returning home from our trip,
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marriage equality came to California.
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And in the end, we believe, love will win out.
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(Video) By the power vested in me,
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by the state of California
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and by God Almighty,
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I now pronounce you spouses for life.
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You may kiss.
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(Applause)
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