Khalida Brohi: How I work to protect women from honor killings

Translator: Anne Mogensen Reviewer: Anders Finn Jørgensen

While preparing for my talk

Mens jeg forberedte mit foredrag

I was reflecting on my life and trying to figure out

reflekterede jeg over mit liv og overvejede,

where exactly was that moment when my journey began.

hvornår min rejse egentlig begyndte.

A long time passed by, and I simply couldn't figure out

Der gik lang tid, og jeg kunne ikke komme i tanke om,

the beginning or the middle or the end of my story.

hverken starten, midten eller slutningen på min historie.

I always used to think that my beginning

Jeg plejede at tænke, at begyndelsen

was one afternoon in my community when my mother had told me

var en eftermiddag i min landsby, da min mor fortalte mig,

that I had escaped three arranged marriages by the time I was two.

at jeg havde flygtet fra tre arrangerede ægteskaber, inden jeg fyldte to.

Or one evening when electricity had failed for eight hours in our community,

Eller en aften, hvor strømmen svigtede i otte timer i byen,

and my dad sat, surrounded by all of us,

og min far sad, omgiven af os alle,

telling us stories of when he was a little kid struggling to go to school

og fortalte om dengang han var lille og skulle kæmpe for at gå i skole

while his father, who was a farmer, wanted him to work in the fields with him.

eftersom hans far, som var bonde, ville, at han skulle arbejde.

Or that dark night when I was 16

Eller den mørke nat, da jeg var 16 år,

when three little kids had come to me and they whispered in my ear

og tre små børn kom og viskede,

that my friend was murdered in something called the honor killings.

at min ven var blevet myrdet i noget som hed æresdrab.

But then I realized that,

Men jeg indså,

as much as I know that these moments have contributed on my journey,

at selvom disse begivenheder har bidraget til min rejse

they have influenced my journey

og påvirket mig,

but they have not been the beginning of it,

så var det ikke sådan det begyndte,

but the true beginning of my journey was in front of a mud house

for det startede foran et lerhus

in upper Sindh of Pakistan,

i de nordlige dele af Sindh, Pakistan,

where my father held the hand of my 14-year-old mother

da min far holdt min 14-årige mors hånd

and they decided to walk out of the village

og de bestemte sig for at forlade byen

to go to a town where they could send their kids to school.

og begive sig til en by, hvor de kunne sende deres børn i skole.

In a way, I feel like my life

Jeg føler på en måde, at mit liv

is kind of a result of some wise choices and decisions they've made.

er et resultat af nogle kloge valg og beslutninger, som de tog.

And just like that, another of their decisions

En anden beslutning

was to keep me and my siblings connected to our roots.

var at lade mig og mine søskende beholde kontakten med vores rødder.

While we were living in a community I fondly remember as called Ribabad,

Da vi boede i byen Ribabad, som jeg husker med varme,

which means community of the poor,

som betyder de fattiges by,

my dad made sure that we also had a house in our rural homeland.

så sikrede min far, at vi også havde et hus i provinsen, hvor vi kom fra.

I come from an indigenous tribe in the mountains of Balochistan

Jeg kommer fra en stamme i Balochistan bjergene,

called Brahui.

kaldet Brahui.

Brahui, or Brohi, means mountain dweller, and it is also my language.

Brahui, eller Brohi, betyder bjergbo, og det er også mit sprog.

Thanks to my father's very strict rules about connecting to our customs,

Takket være fars strikte regler, for at holde fast ved vores traditioner,

I had to live a beautiful life of songs, cultures, traditions, stories, mountains,

havde jeg en dejlig opvækst med sange, kulturer, traditioner, historier, bjerge,

and a lot of sheep.

og en masse får.

But then, living in two extremes

Men at leve i to yderligheder,

between the traditions of my culture, of my village,

mellen traditionerne i min kultur

and then modern education in my school wasn't easy.

og den moderne uddannelse i skolen, var ikke let.

I was aware that I was the only girl who got to have such freedom,

Jeg vidste, at jeg var den eneste pige, der havde en sådan frihed,

and I was guilty of it.

og jeg følte mig skyldig.

While going to school in Karachi and Hyderabad,

Da jeg gik i skole i Karachi og Hyderabad,

a lot of my cousins and childhood friends were getting married off,

blev mange af mine kusiner og barndomsvenner giftet bort,

some to older men, some in exchange,

nogle til ældre mænd, nogle i byttehandel,

some even as second wives.

og andre til og med som anden hustru.

I got to see the beautiful tradition and its magic fade in front of me

Jeg oplevede, at de smukke og magiske traditioner falmede,

when I saw that the birth of a girl child was celebrated with sadness,

når fødslen af en pige blev fejret med sorg,

when women were told to have patience as their main virtue.

når kvinder blev tilsagt, at tålmodighed var deres vigtigste dyd.

Up until I was 16,

Indtil jeg var 16 år,

I healed my sadness by crying,

trøstede jeg mig med at græde,

mostly at nights when everyone would sleep

mest om natten, når alle sov,

and I would sob in my pillow,

og jeg græd i min pude,

until that one night when I found out my friend was killed

indtil den nat hvor jeg fik at vide, at min ven var blevet myrdet

in the name of honor.

i ærens navn.

Honor killings is a custom

Æresdrab er en tradition

where men and women are suspected of having relationships

når mænd og kvinder er mistænkte for at have en relation,

before or outside of the marriage,

inden eller udenfor ægteskabet,

and they're killed by their family for it.

og deres familier slår dem ihjel for det.

Usually the killer is the brother or father or the uncle in the family.

Morderen er oftest en bror, far eller onkel i familien.

The U.N. reports there are about 1,000 honor murders every year in Pakistan,

FN rapporterer, at omkring 1000 æresdrab finder sted hvert år i Pakistan,

and these are only the reported cases.

og det er kun de fald som rapporteres.

A custom that kills did not make any sense to me,

Jeg kunne ikke acceptere en tradition som slår ihjel,

and I knew I had to do something about it this time.

og jeg indså, at jeg var nødt til at gøre noget.

I was not going to cry myself to sleep.

Jeg ville ikke græde mig i søvn længere.

I was going to do something, anything, to stop it.

Jeg ville gøre hvad som helst for at stoppe det.

I was 16 -- I started writing poetry

Jeg var 16 år og begyndte at skrive poesi

and going door to door telling everybody about honor killings

og gå fra dør til dør, for at fortælle alle om æresdrab

and why it happens, why it should be stopped,

og hvorfor det sker, hvorfor det burde stoppes

and raising awareness about it

og øge bevidstheden om det,

until I actually found a much, much better way to handle this issue.

indtil jeg fandt en meget bedre måde at håndtere det på.

In those days, we were living in a very small, one-roomed house in Karachi.

På den tid boede vi i et meget lille et værelses hus i Karachi.

Every year, during the monsoon seasons, our house would flood up with water --

Hvert år, under monsunregnen, blev vores hus oversvømmet,

rainwater and sewage --

med regn- og afløbsvand

and my mom and dad would be taking the water out.

og min mor og far plejede at øse vandet ud.

In those days, my dad brought home a huge machine, a computer.

En dag kom far hjem med en stor maskine, en computer.

It was so big it looked as if it was going to take up half of the only room we had,

Den var så stor, at den så ud til at fylde det eneste værelse vi havde,

and had so many pieces and wires that needed to be connected.

og havde så mange dele og ledninger, som skulle tilsluttes.

But it was still the most exciting thing

Det var det mest spændende,

that has ever happened to me and my sisters.

som var sket for mig og mine søstre.

My oldest brother Ali got to be in charge of taking care of the computer,

Min ældste bror Ali fik ansvaret for den,

and all of us were given 10 to 15 minutes every day to use it.

og vi fik alle lov til at bruge den 10 til 15 minutter per dag.

Being the oldest of eight kids,

Som den ældste af otte børn,

I got to use it the last,

var jeg den sidste til at bruge den,

and that was after I had washed the dishes,

og det var ikke før jeg havde vasket op,

cleaned the house, made dinner with my mom,

gjort huset rent, lavet mad sammen med min mor,

and put blankets on the floor for everyone to sleep,

og lagt tæpper ud på gulvet til alle at sove på,

and after that, I would run to the computer,

derefter løb jeg til computeren,

connect it to the Internet,

koblede den op til internettet,

and have pure joy and wonder for 10 to 15 minutes.

og nød fuldt ud i 10 til 15 minutter.

In those days, I had discovered a website called Joogle.

Dengang opdagede jeg en webside, som hed Joogle.

[Google] (Laughter)

[Google] (Latter)

In my frantic wish to do something about this custom,

Da mit hede ønske var at ændre denne tradition

I made use of Google and discovered Facebook,

brugte jeg Google og opdagede Facebook,

a website where people can connect to anyone around the world,

en webside, hvor folk kan knytte kontakter med hvem som helst i verden,

and so, from my very tiny, cement-roofed room in Karachi,

og fra mit meget lille værelse med lertag i Karachi,

I connected with people in the U.K., the U.S., Australia and Canada,

så kom jeg i kontakt med folk på flere kontinenter,

and created a campaign called

og skabte en kampagne som fik navnet

WAKE UP Campaign against Honor Killings.

WAKE UP-kampagnen mod æresdrab.

It became enormous in just a few months.

Den blev enormt stor på nogle få måneder.

I got a lot of support from all around the world.

Jeg fik meget støtte fra hele verden.

Media was connecting to us.

Medierne kontaktede os.

A lot of people were reaching out trying to raise awareness with us.

Mange forsøgte at øge bevidstheden sammen med os.

It became so big that it went from online to the streets of my hometown,

Kampagnen blev så stor, at den til sidst nåede min hjemby,

where we would do rallies and strikes

hvor vi organiserede demonstrationer og strejker,

trying to change the policies in Pakistan for women's support.

for at ændre reglerne og politikken om kvinders støtte i Pakistan.

And while I thought everything was perfect,

Jeg troede, at alting forløb godt,

my team -- which was basically my friends and neighbors at that time --

og mit team, som bestod af venner og daværende naboer,

thought everything was going so well,

troede også, at alt gik som det skulle,

we had no idea a big opposition was coming to us.

men vi vidste ikke, at en stor opposition byggede sig op.

My community stood up against us,

Min landsby rejste sig mod os,

saying we were spreading un-Islamic behavior.

og sagde, at vi spred ikke-islamiske budskaber.

We were challenging centuries-old customs in those communities.

Vi udfordrede traditioner, som havde været i hundredevis af år i landsbyerne.

I remember my father receiving anonymous letters

Jag kan huske, at min far modtog anonyme breve,

saying, "Your daughter is spreading Western culture

hvor der stod: "Din datter spreder vestlig kultur

in the honorable societies."

i hæderlige samfund."

Our car was stoned at one point.

På et tidspunkt kastede folk sten på vores bil.

One day I went to the office and found our metal signboard

Da jeg kom til kontoret en dag fandt jeg vores metalskilt ødelagt,

wrinkled and broken as if a lot of people had been hitting it with something heavy.

som om nogen havde slået på det med noget tungt.

Things got so bad that I had to hide myself in many ways.

Det blev så alvorligt, at jeg måtte gemme mig.

I would put up the windows of the car,

Jeg rullede vinduerne op på bilen,

veil my face, not speak while I was in public,

dækkede mit ansigt, snakkede ikke når jeg var ude blandt folk,

but eventually situations got worse when my life was threatened,

men situationen blev værre, da jeg blev truet på livet,

and I had to leave, back to Karachi, and our actions stopped.

jeg var nød til at tage til Karachi og vores aktioner stoppede.

Back in Karachi, as an 18-year-old,

Som 18-årig tilbage i Karachi,

I thought this was the biggest failure of my entire life.

troede jeg det var mit livs største fejltagelse.

I was devastated.

Jeg var knust.

As a teenager, I was blaming myself for everything that happened.

Som teenager gav jeg mig selv skylden for alt som skete.

And it turns out, when we started reflecting,

Da vi begyndte at reflektere,

we did realize that it was actually me and my team's fault.

indså vi, at det faktisk var vores skyld.

There were two big reasons why our campaign had failed big time.

Der var to vigtige grunde til, at vores kampagne mislykkedes.

One of those, the first reason,

Den første grund var,

is we were standing against core values of people.

at vi kritiserede folks kerneværdier.

We were saying no to something that was very important to them,

Vi sagde nej til noget, som var meget vigtigt for dem,

challenging their code of honor,

udfordrede deres æreskodeks,

and hurting them deeply in the process.

og sårede dem dybt under processen.

And number two, which was very important for me to learn,

Den anden grund, som var utrolig vigtig for mig at lære,

and amazing, and surprising for me to learn,

og som overraskede mig,

was that we were not including the true heroes

var, at vi ikke inkluderede de sande helte,

who should be fighting for themselves.

som burde have kæmpet for sin sag.

The women in the villages had no idea we were fighting for them in the streets.

Kvinderne i landsbyerne vidste ikke, at vi kæmpede for dem.

Every time I would go back,

Hver gang jeg rejste dertil,

I would find my cousins and friends with scarves on their faces,

mødte jeg mine kusiner og venner med ar i sine ansigter,

and I would ask, "What happened?"

og jeg spurgte: "Hvad er der sket?"

And they'd be like, "Our husbands beat us."

Og fik svaret: "Vores mænd har slået os."

But we are working in the streets for you!

Men vi kæmper jo for jeres skyld på gaderne!

We are changing the policies.

Vi ændrer reglerne.

How is that not impacting their life?

Hvordan kan det ikke påvirke deres liv?

So then we found out something which was very amazing for us.

Så opdagede vi noget, som overraskede os.

The policies of a country

Et lands politik og love

do not necessarily always affect the tribal and rural communities.

påvirker ikke altid folk i landsbyerne.

It was devastating -- like, oh, we can't actually do something about this?

Det var en frygtelig indsigt, kan vi ikke gøre noget ved det?

And we found out there's a huge gap

Vi fandt ud af, at der er en enorm kløfte,

when it comes to official policies and the real truth on the ground.

mellem de officielle love og det der sker lokalt.

So this time, we were like, we are going to do something different.

Vi bestemte os for at gøre det på en anden måde denne gang.

We are going to use strategy,

Vi ville have en strategi

and we are going to go back and apologize.

og tage tilbage og undskylde.

Yes, apologize.

Ja, undskylde.

We went back to the communities

Vi tog tilbage til landsbyerne

and we said we are very ashamed of what we did.

og sagde, at vi skammede os over det, vi havde gjort.

We are here to apologize, and in fact, we are here to make it up to you.

Vi er her for at undskylde og godtgøre jer.

How do we do that?

Hvordan gør vi det?

We are going to promote three of your main cultures.

Vi vil støtte tre af jeres vigtigste kulturelle udtryk.

We know that it's music, language, and embroidery.

Musik, sprog og brodering.

Nobody believed us.

Ingen troede på os.

Nobody wanted to work with us.

Ingen ville samarbejde med os.

It took a lot of convincing and discussions with these communities

Det krævede meget overtagelse og diskussioner med disse landsbyer,

until they agreed that we are going to promote their language

inden vi kunne blive enige om, at vi skulle fremme deres sprog,

by making a booklet of their stories, fables and old tales in the tribe,

ved at lave et hæfte med deres fortællinger, fabler og klanhistorier,

and we would promote their music

og vi ville promovere deres musik,

by making a CD of the songs from the tribe, and some drumbeating.

ved at lave en CD med deres klansange og trommemusik.

And the third, which was my favorite,

Og den tredje, som var min favorit,

was we would promote their embroidery by making a center in the village

var at fremme deres broderitradition ved at lave et center i byen,

where women would come every day to make embroidery.

hvor kvinder kunne kommer hver dag for at brodere.

And so it began.

Det var starten.

We worked with one village, and we started our first center.

Vi arbejdede med en by og startede vores første center.

It was a beautiful day.

Det var en smuk dag.

We started the center.

Vi startede centret.

Women were coming to make embroidery,

Kvinder kom for at brodere,

and going through a life-changing process of education,

og gennemgik også livsforandrende uddannelse.

learning about their rights, what Islam says about their rights,

lærde om sine rettigheder og hvad islam siger om dem,

and enterprise development, how they can create money,

om virksomhedsudvikling, hvordan de kan tjene penge,

and then how they can create money from money,

og hvordan de kan få penge til at gro,

how they can fight the customs that have been destroying their lives

hvordan de kan bekæmpe traditioner, som tidligere har ødelagt deres liv,

from so many centuries,

i så mange århundreder,

because in Islam, in reality,

for indenfor islam, i realiteten,

women are supposed to be shoulder to shoulder with men.

skal kvinden stå side ved side med manden.

Women have so much status that we have not been hearing,

Kvinder har så meget stilling, som vi ikke har ladet høre,

that they have not been hearing,

og de har heller ikke lyttet,

and we needed to tell them that they need to know

og vi behøvede fortælle dem, at de skal kende

where their rights are and how to take them by themselves,

deres rettigheder og hvordan de kan bruge dem,

because they can do it and we can't.

for de kan gøre det selv, ikke os.

So this was the model which actually came out -- very amazing.

Her er modellen vi arbejdede efter - ret fantastisk.

Through embroidery we were promoting their traditions.

Vi fremmede deres traditioner gennem brodering.

We went into the village. We would mobilize the community.

Vi rejste til landsbyen. Vi mobiliserede samfundet.

We would make a center inside where 30 women will come

Vi skabte et center med plads til 30 kvinder,

for six months to learn about value addition of traditional embroidery,

som skulle være der i seks måneder og lære sig at udvikle broderingen,

enterprise development, life skills and basic education,

virksomhedsudvikling, færdigheder og basal uddannelse,

and about their rights and how to say no to those customs

og sine rettigheder og at sige nej til visse traditioner

and how to stand as leaders for themselves and the society.

og at være ledere for sig selv og byen.

After six months, we would connect these women to loans and to markets

Efter seks måneder skulle kvinderne få kontakt med långivere og markeder,

where they can become local entrepreneurs in their communities.

så de kunne blive lokale entreprenører i sine landsbyer.

We soon called this project Sughar.

Projektet fik navnet Sughar.

Sughar is a local word used in many, many languages in Pakistan.

Sughar er et ord, som findes i mange af Pakistans sprog.

It means skilled and confident women.

Det betyder kompetente og selvsikre kvinder.

I truly believe, to create women leaders, there's only one thing you have to do:

Jeg er overbevist om, at det eneste man skal gøre for at skabe kvindelige ledere

Just let them know that they have what it takes to be a leader.

er at lade dem vide, at de har det som kræves, for at være en leder.

These women you see here,

Kvinderne i ser her

they have strong skills and potential to be leaders.

har gode færdigheder og potentiale til at blive ledere.

All we had to do was remove the barriers that surrounded them,

Det eneste vi behøvede at gøre var at fjerne barriererne for dem,

and that's what we decided to do.

og det bestemte vi os for at gøre.

But then while we were thinking everything was going well,

Men da vi syntes, at alting gik godt,

once again everything was fantastic,

alt var endnu engang fantastisk,

we found our next setback:

så kom det næste tilbageslag:

A lot of men started seeing the visible changes in their wife.

Mange mænd begyndte at se synlige forandringer i sine koner.

She's speaking more, she's making decisions --

Hun snakkede mere og tog beslutninger,

oh my gosh, she's handling everything in the house.

og uha, hun tog hånd om alt i hjemmet.

They stopped them from coming to the centers,

De forhindrede dem i at komme til centret,

and this time, we were like, okay, time for strategy two.

så nu tænkte vi, at det var tid til plan B.

We went to the fashion industry in Pakistan

Vi vendte os til modeindustrien i Pakistan,

and decided to do research about what happens there.

for at undersøge, hvad der sker der.

Turns out the fashion industry in Pakistan is very strong and growing day by day,

Det viste sig, at modeindustrien i Pakistan er stærk og vokser hver dag,

but there is less contribution from the tribal areas

men den får ikke meget støtte fra landsbyerne

and to the tribal areas, especially women.

og den når ikke ud til landsbyerne, specielt ikke til kvinderne.

So we decided to launch our first ever tribal women's very own fashion brand,

Vi bestemte os for at lancere vores første kollektion for disse kvinder,

which is now called Nomads.

som nu hedder Nomads.

And so women started earning more,

Kvinder begyndte at tjene mere,

they started contributing more financially to the house,

de begyndte at bidrage finansielt til husholdningen,

and men had to think again before saying no to them

og mændene var nød til at tænke en ekstra gang, inden de nægtede dem

when they were coming to the centers.

at komme til centrene.

(Applause)

(Bifald)

Thank you, thank you.

Mange tak, tak.

In 2013, we launched our first Sughar Hub instead of a center.

2013 lancerede vi vores første Sughar Hub, i stedet for et center.

We partnered with TripAdvisor

Vi samarbejdede med TripAdvisor

and created a cement hall in the middle of a village

og byggede et rigtigt hus midt i landsbyen

and invited so many other organizations to work over there.

og inviterede mange andre organisationer til at arbejde der.

We created this platform for the nonprofits

Vi skabte den til frivillige organisationer,

so they can touch and work on the other issues

så de kan arbejde med emner,

that Sughar is not working on,

som Sughar ikke arbejder med,

which would be an easy place for them to give trainings,

de ville kunne arrangere kurser der,

use it as a farmer school, even as a marketplace,

bruge det som en landbrugsskole, eller en markedsplads,

and anything they want to use it for,

eller hvad de nu vil bruge det til,

and they have been doing really amazingly.

og de har gjort et fantastisk arbejde.

And so far, we have been able to support 900 women

Indtil videre har vi kunnet støtte 900 kvinder

in 24 villages around Pakistan.

i 24 landsbyer rundt om i Pakistan.

(Applause)

(Bifald)

But that's actually not what I want.

Men det er egentlig ikke det jeg vil.

My dream is to reach out to one million women in the next 10 years,

Min drøm er at nå en million kvinder i løbet af de kommende 10 år,

and to make sure that happens,

og for at sikre, at det vil ske,

this year we launched Sughar Foundation in the U.S.

lancerede vi i år Sughar Foundation i USA .

It is not just going to fund Sughar but many other organizations in Pakistan

Den skal ikke kun finansiere Sughar men også andre organisationer i Pakistan,

to replicate the idea

for at kopiere idéen

and to find even more innovative ways

og finde endnu flere innovative måder

to unleash the rural women's potential in Pakistan.

at frigøre potentialet for kvinder på landsbyen i Pakistan.

Thank you so much.

Tusind tak.

(Applause)

(Bifald)

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Tak. Tak. Tak.

Chris Anderson: Khalida, you are quite the force of nature.

Chris Anderson: Khalida, du er lidt af en naturkraft.

I mean, this story, in many ways, just seems beyond belief.

Denne historie er nærmest ubegribelig på mange måder.

It's incredible that someone so young could do achieve this much

Det er utroligt, at en så ung person har lykkedes skabe så meget,

through so much force and ingenuity.

med så meget kraft og opfindsomhed.

So I guess one question:

Så et spørgsmål til dig:

This is a spectacular dream to reach out and empower a million women --

Det er en imponerende vision at nå ud til og styrke en million kvinder,

how much of the current success depends on you,

hvor meget af fremgangen skyldes dig,

the force of this magnetic personality?

og kraften i din stærke personlighed?

How does it scale?

Hvordan kan det gøres i større skala?

Khalida Brohi: I think my job is to give the inspiration out,

Khalida Brohi: Mit job er at dele min inspiration

give my dream out.

og min drøm.

I can't teach how to do it, because there are so many different ways.

Jag kan ikke undervise hvordan, for der er så mange forskellige måder.

We have been experimenting with three ways only.

Vi har eksperimenteret med tre måder.

There are a hundred different ways to unleash potential in women.

Der er hundredevis af måder for at frigøre kvinders indre potentiale.

I would just give the inspiration and that's my job.

Mit job er at inspirere til forandring.

I will keep doing it. Sughar will still be growing.

Jeg bliver ved. Sughar fortsætter med at vokse.

We are planning to reach out to two more villages,

Vi planlægger at starte i yderligere to landsbyer,

and soon I believe we will be scaling out of Pakistan

og snart ekspanderer vi forhåbentlig udenfor Pakistan,

into South Asia and beyond.

i Sydasien og andre lande.

CA: I love that when you talked about your team in the talk,

CA: Det var vidunderligt, da du snakkede om dit team tidligere,

I mean, you were all 18 at the time.

jeg mener, I var alle 18 år dengang.

What did this team look like?

Hvordan så teamet ud?

This was school friends, right?

Det var skolekammerater, ikke?

KB: Do people here believe that I'm at an age

KB: Forstår I her i dag, at jeg har en alder,

where I'm supposed to be a grandmother in my village?

hvor jeg burde være bedstemor i min by?

My mom was married at nine, and I am the oldest woman not married

Min mor blev gift da hun var ni år gammel, og jeg er den ældste ugifte kvinde,

and not doing anything in my life in my village.

som ikke gør noget med mit liv i min landsby.

CA: Wait, wait, wait, not doing anything?

CA: Vent, vent, ikke gør noget?

KB: No. CA: You're right.

KB: Nej. CA: Du har ret.

KB: People feel sorry for me, a lot of times.

KB: Folk har tit ondt af mig.

CA: But how much time are you spending now actually back in Balochistan?

CA: Hvor meget tid bruger du egentlig i Balochistan?

KB: I live over there.

KB: Jeg bor der.

We live between, still, Karachi and Balochistan.

Vi bor stadig mellem Karachi og Balochistan.

My siblings are all going to school.

Alle mine søskende går i skole.

I am still the oldest of eight siblings.

Jeg er ældst af otte søskende.

CA: But what you're doing is definitely threatening to some people there.

CA: Men det du gør, udgør helt klart en trussel for en del mennesker.

How do you handle safety? Do you feel safe?

Hvordan håndterer du din sikkerhed? Føler du dig tryg?

Are there issues there?

Oplever du nogle problemer?

KB: This question has come to me a lot of times before,

KB: Jeg får tit det spørgsmål,

and I feel like the word "fear" just comes to me and then drops,

og ordet "rædsel" kommer spontant til mig og så forsvinder det igen,

but there is one fear that I have that is different from that.

men jeg er bange for noget andet.

The fear is that if I get killed, what would happen to the people

For at blive myrdet, for hvad ville der så ske med dem,

who love me so much?

der elsker mig så meget?

My mom waits for me till late at night that I should come home.

Min mor venter til sent om aftenen på, at jeg skal komme hjem.

My sisters want to learn so much from me,

Mine søstre vil lære så meget af mig,

and there are many, many girls in my community who want to talk to me

og der er mange piger i landsbyen, som vil snakke med mig

and ask me different things,

og spørge om forskellige ting,

and I recently got engaged. (Laughs)

og så er jeg blevet forlovet for nylig. (Griner)

(Applause)

(Bifald)

CA: Is he here? You've got to stand up.

CA: Er han her? Du er nød til at rejse dig op.

(Applause)

(Bifald)

KB: Escaping arranged marriages, I chose my own husband

KB: Efter flugten fra arrangerede ægteskaber, valgte jeg selv min mand,

across the world in L.A., a really different world.

på den anden side af jorden i Los Angeles, en helt anden verden.

I had to fight for a whole year. That's totally a different story.

Jag var nød til at kæmpe i et helt år. Men det er en anden historie.

But I think that's the only thing that I'm afraid of,

Men jeg tror, at det er det eneste jeg er bange for,

and I don't want my mom to not see anyone when she waits in the night.

jeg vil ikke, at min mor ikke skal se mig når hun venter oppe om natten.

CA: So people who want to help you on their way,

CA: Så dem der ønsker at støtte jer,

they can go on, they can maybe buy some of these clothes

de kan fortsætte, de kan måske købe en del af tøjet,

that you're bringing over

som du tager med dig over

that are actually made, the embroidery is done back in Balochistan?

og som er fremstillet, broderierne er lavet i Balochistan?

KB: Yeah.

KB: Ja.

CA: Or they can get involved in the foundation.

CA: Eller engagere sig i stiftelsen.

KB: Definitely. We are looking for as many people as we can,

KB: Helt klart. Vi har brug for så mange som muligt,

because now that the foundation's in the beginning process,

for nu hvor stiftelsen er i sin opstartsfase,

I am trying to learn a lot about how to operate,

forsøger jeg at lære meget om drift,

how to get funding or reach out to more organizations,

hvordan man søger finansiering og samarbejder med andre organisationer,

and especially in the e-commerce, which is very new for me.

specielt omkring e-handel, som er helt nyt for mig.

I mean, I am not a fashion person, believe me.

Jeg er ikke noget modemenneske, tro mig.

CA: Well, it's been incredible to have you here.

CA: Det har været fantastiskt at have dig her.

Please go on being courageous, go on being smart, and please stay safe.

Bliv ved med at være modig, at være klog og pas på dig selv.

KB: Thank you so much. CA: Thank you, Khalida. (Applause)

KB: Tusind tak. CA: Tak, Khalida. (Bifald)