Khalida Brohi: How I work to protect women from honor killings

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00:12
While preparing for my talk
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Dok sam pripremala ovaj govor
00:15
I was reflecting on my life and trying to figure out
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osvrnula sam se na svoj život i pokušala se sjetiti
00:19
where exactly was that moment when my journey began.
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kada je točno započelo moje putovanje.
00:24
A long time passed by, and I simply couldn't figure out
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Mnogo je vremena prošlo od onda i nisam se mogla sjetiti
00:26
the beginning or the middle or the end of my story.
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početka, sredine ili kraja svoje priče.
00:29
I always used to think that my beginning
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Uvijek sam smatrala da je sve počelo
00:31
was one afternoon in my community when my mother had told me
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jednog poslijepodneva u mojoj zajednici kada mi je majka otkrila
00:35
that I had escaped three arranged marriages by the time I was two.
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da sam već do svoje druge godine izbjegla tri ugovorena braka.
00:40
Or one evening when electricity had failed for eight hours in our community,
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Ili jedne večeri kada osam sati nije bilo struje u našoj zajednici,
00:44
and my dad sat, surrounded by all of us,
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moj otac je sjeo, mi ostali oko njega,
00:46
telling us stories of when he was a little kid struggling to go to school
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i pričao nam kako se kao dječak morao izboriti da ide u školu
00:50
while his father, who was a farmer, wanted him to work in the fields with him.
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dok je njegov otac, poljodjelac, želio da radi s njim na polju.
00:54
Or that dark night when I was 16
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Ili jedne tamne noći, u dobi od šesnaest godina
00:57
when three little kids had come to me and they whispered in my ear
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kada mi je troje djece došlo i šapnulo mi
01:02
that my friend was murdered in something called the honor killings.
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da je moja prijateljica ubijena u takozvanom ubojstvu zbog časti.
01:08
But then I realized that,
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No tada sam shvatila da,
01:10
as much as I know that these moments have contributed on my journey,
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iako znam koliko su ti trenuci pridonijeli mome putovanju,
01:13
they have influenced my journey
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utjecali na njega,
01:15
but they have not been the beginning of it,
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oni nisu bili njegov početak,
01:17
but the true beginning of my journey was in front of a mud house
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već se pravi početak mog putovanja dogodio ispred kuće od blata
01:22
in upper Sindh of Pakistan,
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u gornjem Sindhu u Pakistanu,
01:24
where my father held the hand of my 14-year-old mother
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gdje je moj otac držao moju četrnaestogodišnju majku za ruku
01:27
and they decided to walk out of the village
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i njih dvoje su odlučili napustiti selo
01:29
to go to a town where they could send their kids to school.
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i otići u grad gdje će se njihova djeca moći obrazovati.
01:32
In a way, I feel like my life
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Na neki način, osjećam da je moj život
01:35
is kind of a result of some wise choices and decisions they've made.
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rezultat mudrih izbora i odluka koje su moji roditelji donijeli.
01:40
And just like that, another of their decisions
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I samo tako, jedna od njihovih odluka
01:43
was to keep me and my siblings connected to our roots.
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bila je da zadrže mene i ostalu djecu vezane za naše korijene.
01:46
While we were living in a community I fondly remember as called Ribabad,
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Dok smo živjeli u zajednici koja se zvala Ribabad,
01:51
which means community of the poor,
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što znači 'zajednica siromašnih',
01:53
my dad made sure that we also had a house in our rural homeland.
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moj otac se pobrinuo da imamo i kuću u našoj ruralnoj domovini.
01:57
I come from an indigenous tribe in the mountains of Balochistan
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Dolazim iz starosjedilačkog plemena iz baločistanskih planina
02:00
called Brahui.
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koje se zove Brahui.
02:02
Brahui, or Brohi, means mountain dweller, and it is also my language.
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Brahui ili Brohi znači 'stanovnik planina' a to je ujedno i moj jezik.
02:07
Thanks to my father's very strict rules about connecting to our customs,
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Zahvaljujući strogim očevim pravilima o povezanosti s našim običajima,
02:11
I had to live a beautiful life of songs, cultures, traditions, stories, mountains,
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moj je divan život bio ispunjen pjesmama, kulturom, tradicijama, pričama, planinama,
02:17
and a lot of sheep.
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i mnogim ovcama.
02:19
But then, living in two extremes
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No, život u dvama ekstremima
02:22
between the traditions of my culture, of my village,
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između tradicija moje kulture, sela,
02:26
and then modern education in my school wasn't easy.
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i modernog obrazovanja u školi nije bio jednostavan.
02:29
I was aware that I was the only girl who got to have such freedom,
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Bila sam svjesna da sam jedina djevojčica koja je imala toliku slobodu,
02:34
and I was guilty of it.
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i bila sam za to kriva.
02:36
While going to school in Karachi and Hyderabad,
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Dok sam išla u školu u Karachiju i Hyderabadu,
02:40
a lot of my cousins and childhood friends were getting married off,
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mnoge su se moje rođakinje i prijateljice iz djetinjstva poudavale,
02:44
some to older men, some in exchange,
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neke za starije muškarce, neke u zamjenu,
02:46
some even as second wives.
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neke čak i kao druge supruge.
02:49
I got to see the beautiful tradition and its magic fade in front of me
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Promatrala sam kako predivna tradicija i njena čarolija blijede preda mnom
02:54
when I saw that the birth of a girl child was celebrated with sadness,
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kada sam vidjela da se rođenje ženskog djeteta slavi tugom,
02:59
when women were told to have patience as their main virtue.
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kada su ženama govorili da im glavna vrlina mora biti strpljivost.
03:04
Up until I was 16,
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Do svoje šesnaeste godine
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I healed my sadness by crying,
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svoju tugu sam liječila plakanjem
03:09
mostly at nights when everyone would sleep
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uglavnom tijekom noći dok su ostali spavali
03:11
and I would sob in my pillow,
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a ja bih jecala u svoj jastuk,
03:13
until that one night when I found out my friend was killed
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sve do one noći kada sam saznala da mi je prijateljica ubijena
03:17
in the name of honor.
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u ime časti.
03:20
Honor killings is a custom
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Ubojstva zbog časti su običaj
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where men and women are suspected of having relationships
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kada se muškarce i žene sumnjiči za vezu
03:26
before or outside of the marriage,
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prije ili izvan braka,
03:27
and they're killed by their family for it.
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zbog čega ih ubije njihova obitelj.
03:29
Usually the killer is the brother or father or the uncle in the family.
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Najčešće je ubojica brat ili otac ili ujak.
03:34
The U.N. reports there are about 1,000 honor murders every year in Pakistan,
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Prema izvješću UN-a svake godine se izvrši oko 1000 ubojstava iz časti u Pakistanu,
03:39
and these are only the reported cases.
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a to su samo prijavljeni slučajevi.
03:41
A custom that kills did not make any sense to me,
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Običaj koji ubija za mene nije imao nikakvog smisla.
03:45
and I knew I had to do something about it this time.
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Znala sam da moram nešto poduzeti.
03:47
I was not going to cry myself to sleep.
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Nisam namjeravala zaspati plačući.
03:50
I was going to do something, anything, to stop it.
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Naumila sam učiniti nešto, bilo što, da to zaustavim.
03:52
I was 16 -- I started writing poetry
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Bilo mi je 16 godina, počela sam pisati poeziju
03:54
and going door to door telling everybody about honor killings
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i ići od vrata do vrata govoreći svima o ubojstvima iz časti
03:57
and why it happens, why it should be stopped,
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zašto se događaju, zašto ih se mora zaustaviti,
04:00
and raising awareness about it
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i šireći svijest o tome
04:01
until I actually found a much, much better way to handle this issue.
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sve dok nisam pronašla mnogo bolji način da riješim ovaj problem.
04:06
In those days, we were living in a very small, one-roomed house in Karachi.
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U to vrijeme smo živjeli u vrlo maloj jednosobnoj kući u Karachiju.
04:13
Every year, during the monsoon seasons, our house would flood up with water --
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Svake godine, tijekom sezone monsuna, naša kuća bi poplavila --
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rainwater and sewage --
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zbog kiše i kanalizacije --
04:19
and my mom and dad would be taking the water out.
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i moji roditelji bi vadili vodu van.
04:22
In those days, my dad brought home a huge machine, a computer.
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U to vrijeme, moj otac je donio kući ogroman stroj, računalo.
04:27
It was so big it looked as if it was going to take up half of the only room we had,
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Bilo je toliko veliko da se činilo kako će zauzeti polovicu naše jedine sobe.
04:32
and had so many pieces and wires that needed to be connected.
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Imalo je puno dijelova i žica koje je trebalo spojiti.
04:35
But it was still the most exciting thing
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No, ono je ipak bila najuzbudljivija stvar
04:37
that has ever happened to me and my sisters.
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koja se ikada dogodila meni i mojim sestrama.
04:40
My oldest brother Ali got to be in charge of taking care of the computer,
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Moj najstariji brat Ali bio je zadužen za brigu oko računala,
04:44
and all of us were given 10 to 15 minutes every day to use it.
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i svatko od nas dobio je 10 do 15 minuta svaki dan da ga koristi.
04:48
Being the oldest of eight kids,
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Budući da sam najstarija od osmero djece,
04:51
I got to use it the last,
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zadnja sam ga mogla koristiti,
04:54
and that was after I had washed the dishes,
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i to tek nakon što sam oprala posuđe,
04:57
cleaned the house, made dinner with my mom,
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očistila kuću, pripremila večeru s majkom,
04:59
and put blankets on the floor for everyone to sleep,
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i postavila deke po podu da svi mogu spavati,
05:02
and after that, I would run to the computer,
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i nakon toga, otrčala bih do računala,
05:04
connect it to the Internet,
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povezala ga s Internetom,
05:06
and have pure joy and wonder for 10 to 15 minutes.
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i uživala u čistoj radosti i čuđenju 10 do 15 minuta.
05:12
In those days, I had discovered a website called Joogle.
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Tada sam otkrila internetsku stranicu koja se zvala Joogle.
05:16
[Google] (Laughter)
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[Google] (Smijeh)
05:19
In my frantic wish to do something about this custom,
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U svojoj mahnitoj želji da poduzmem nešto u vezi ovog običaja,
05:23
I made use of Google and discovered Facebook,
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iskoristila sam Google i otkrila Facebook,
05:26
a website where people can connect to anyone around the world,
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stranicu gdje se ljudi mogu povezati s bilo kime na svijetu,
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and so, from my very tiny, cement-roofed room in Karachi,
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i iz svoje sitne sobe sa cementnim krovom u Karachiju,
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I connected with people in the U.K., the U.S., Australia and Canada,
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povezala sam se s ljudima u UK- u, SAD-u, Australiji i Kanadi,
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and created a campaign called
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i stvorila kampanju nazvanu
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WAKE UP Campaign against Honor Killings.
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Kampanja WAKE UP ('buđenje') protiv ubojstva zbog časti.
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It became enormous in just a few months.
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Postala je golema u samo par mjeseci.
05:47
I got a lot of support from all around the world.
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Dobila sam mnogo potpore iz cijelog svijeta.
05:49
Media was connecting to us.
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Mediji su se povezivali s nama.
05:51
A lot of people were reaching out trying to raise awareness with us.
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Mnogo se ljudi pokrenulo i zajedno s nama pokušalo podići svijest.
05:54
It became so big that it went from online to the streets of my hometown,
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Postala je toliko značajna da je prešla iz virtualnog svijeta na ulice mog grada,
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where we would do rallies and strikes
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gdje smo se okupljali i štrajkali
06:01
trying to change the policies in Pakistan for women's support.
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pokušavajući promijeniti pakistanske zakone o potpori ženama.
06:05
And while I thought everything was perfect,
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Dok sam mislila da je sve savršeno,
06:08
my team -- which was basically my friends and neighbors at that time --
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moj tim, koji se sastojao od mojih prijateljica i tadašnjih susjeda,
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thought everything was going so well,
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vjerovao je da sve ide dobro,
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we had no idea a big opposition was coming to us.
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no nismo imali pojma da će nam se suprotstaviti jaka opozicija.
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My community stood up against us,
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Usprotivila nam se moja vlastita zajednica,
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saying we were spreading un-Islamic behavior.
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tvrdeći da širimo anti-islamsko ponašanje.
06:25
We were challenging centuries-old customs in those communities.
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Napadali smo stoljetne običaje u tim zajednicama.
06:30
I remember my father receiving anonymous letters
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Sjećam se da je moj otac dobivao anonimna pisma
06:33
saying, "Your daughter is spreading Western culture
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poput "Tvoja kći širi zapadnjačku kulturu
06:36
in the honorable societies."
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u časnim zajednicama."
06:38
Our car was stoned at one point.
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Jednom su i kamenovali naš auto.
06:40
One day I went to the office and found our metal signboard
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Kad sam jedan dan otišla do ureda pronašla sam našu metalnu ploču s natpisom
06:44
wrinkled and broken as if a lot of people had been hitting it with something heavy.
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izgužvanu i razbijenu kao da ju je gomila ljudi izudarala teškim predmetom.
06:49
Things got so bad that I had to hide myself in many ways.
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Stanje se toliko pogoršalo da sam se morala skrivati na razne načine.
06:53
I would put up the windows of the car,
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Zatvarala bih prozore automobila,
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veil my face, not speak while I was in public,
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zaklanjala lice velom, ne bih govorila u javnosti,
07:00
but eventually situations got worse when my life was threatened,
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no naposljetku je stanje eskaliralo kada su mi počeli prijetiti smrću,
07:04
and I had to leave, back to Karachi, and our actions stopped.
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i morala sam se vratiti u Karachi, i prekinuti s našim akcijama.
07:09
Back in Karachi, as an 18-year-old,
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U Karachiju, kao osamnaestogodišnjakinja,
07:13
I thought this was the biggest failure of my entire life.
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smatrala sam da je to najveći promašaj u mom cijelom životu.
07:18
I was devastated.
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Bila sam očajna.
07:20
As a teenager, I was blaming myself for everything that happened.
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Kao adolescentica, krivila sam samu sebe za sve što se bilo dogodilo.
07:23
And it turns out, when we started reflecting,
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Kada smo analizirali sve, ispostavilo se
07:25
we did realize that it was actually me and my team's fault.
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da smo ja i moj tim zaista bili krivci.
07:31
There were two big reasons why our campaign had failed big time.
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Dva su glavna razloga velikog neuspjeha naše kampanje.
07:36
One of those, the first reason,
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Prvi razlog bio je taj
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is we were standing against core values of people.
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što smo se usprotivili nečijim temeljnim vrijednostima.
07:42
We were saying no to something that was very important to them,
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Pobijali smo nešto što im je bilo vrlo bitno,
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challenging their code of honor,
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napadali njihov kod časti,
07:48
and hurting them deeply in the process.
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i time ih duboko ranjavali.
07:51
And number two, which was very important for me to learn,
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Drugi razlog, što sam trebala naučiti,
07:53
and amazing, and surprising for me to learn,
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i što mi je bilo zapanjujuće i iznenađujuće,
07:55
was that we were not including the true heroes
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bio je taj što nismo uključili istinske heroje
07:59
who should be fighting for themselves.
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koji su se trebali boriti za sebe.
08:01
The women in the villages had no idea we were fighting for them in the streets.
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Žene u selima nisu imale pojma da se borimo za njih na ulicama.
08:05
Every time I would go back,
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Svaki put kada bih se vratila,
08:06
I would find my cousins and friends with scarves on their faces,
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nailazila bih na svoje rođakinje i prijateljice sa velom na licu,
08:09
and I would ask, "What happened?"
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i pitala bih ih što se dogodilo.
08:11
And they'd be like, "Our husbands beat us."
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Odgovorile bi da su ih muževi tukli.
08:13
But we are working in the streets for you!
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Ali mi smo se borili za njih na ulicama!
08:16
We are changing the policies.
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Mijenjali smo zakone.
08:18
How is that not impacting their life?
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Kako to nije imalo utjecaja na njihove živote?
08:21
So then we found out something which was very amazing for us.
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Tada smo okrili nešto zapanjujuće.
08:26
The policies of a country
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Zakoni neke zemlje
08:28
do not necessarily always affect the tribal and rural communities.
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ne utječu nužno uvijek na plemenske i ruralne zajednice.
08:33
It was devastating -- like, oh, we can't actually do something about this?
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To je bilo poražavajuće -- zar ne možemo učiniti ništa u vezi ovoga?
08:37
And we found out there's a huge gap
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Otkrili smo da postoji veliki jaz
08:40
when it comes to official policies and the real truth on the ground.
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između politike i prave istine u lokalnim sredinama.
08:44
So this time, we were like, we are going to do something different.
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Ovaj put smo odlučili djelovati drukčije.
08:47
We are going to use strategy,
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Planirali smo koristiti strategiju,
08:49
and we are going to go back and apologize.
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vratiti se i ispričati.
08:52
Yes, apologize.
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Da, ispričati.
08:54
We went back to the communities
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Vratili smo se u zajednice,
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and we said we are very ashamed of what we did.
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i rekli im da se sramimo zbog svega što smo radili,
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We are here to apologize, and in fact, we are here to make it up to you.
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da smo se došli ispričati i nadoknaditi štetu koju smo prouzročili.
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How do we do that?
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Kako ćemo to napraviti?
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We are going to promote three of your main cultures.
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Promovirat ćemo njihove tri glavne kulture.
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We know that it's music, language, and embroidery.
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Glazbu, jezik i vez.
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Nobody believed us.
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Nitko nam nije vjerovao.
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Nobody wanted to work with us.
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Nitko nije htio surađivati s nama.
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It took a lot of convincing and discussions with these communities
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Trebalo je puno uvjeravanja i diskusija s tim zajednicama
09:19
until they agreed that we are going to promote their language
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dok nisu pristale da promoviramo njihov jezik
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by making a booklet of their stories, fables and old tales in the tribe,
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tako što ćemo objaviti knjižicu s pričama, bajkama i njihovim starim pripovijetkama
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and we would promote their music
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i promovirat ćemo njihovu glazbu
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by making a CD of the songs from the tribe, and some drumbeating.
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tako što ćemo napraviti CD s pjesmama njihovog plemena i bubnjanjem.
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And the third, which was my favorite,
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I treće, meni najdraže,
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was we would promote their embroidery by making a center in the village
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promovirali bismo njihov vez tako da osnujemo centar u selu
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where women would come every day to make embroidery.
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kamo bi žene mogle svakodnevno dolaziti i izrađivati vezove.
09:46
And so it began.
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I tako je započelo.
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We worked with one village, and we started our first center.
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Surađivali smo s jednim selom, i pokrenuli smo svoj prvi centar.
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It was a beautiful day.
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Bio je to predivan dan.
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We started the center.
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Osnovali smo centar.
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Women were coming to make embroidery,
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Žene su dolazile izrađivati vezove,
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and going through a life-changing process of education,
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i prolazile su kroz edukaciju koja im je mijenjela život,
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learning about their rights, what Islam says about their rights,
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učile su o svojim pravima, što Islam govori o njihovim pravima,
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and enterprise development, how they can create money,
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i razvoju poduzetništva, kako mogu stvarati novac,
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and then how they can create money from money,
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i potom kako mogu iz tog novca stvoriti novac,
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how they can fight the customs that have been destroying their lives
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kako se mogu boriti protiv običaja koji su mi uništavali život
10:13
from so many centuries,
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tijekom toliko stoljeća,
10:14
because in Islam, in reality,
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jer prema Islamu, zapravo,
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women are supposed to be shoulder to shoulder with men.
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žene bi trebale stajati uz bok muškarcima.
10:20
Women have so much status that we have not been hearing,
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Žene imaju visoki status o kojem se ne govori,
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that they have not been hearing,
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o kojem im se nije govorilo,
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and we needed to tell them that they need to know
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i morali smo im reći da trebaju znati
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where their rights are and how to take them by themselves,
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kakva su im prava i kako da se same zauzmu za njih,
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because they can do it and we can't.
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jer, za razliku od nas, one to mogu napraviti.
10:34
So this was the model which actually came out -- very amazing.
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To je model koji smo razradili -- jako uzbudljivo.
10:36
Through embroidery we were promoting their traditions.
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Kroz vez smo promovirali njihovu kulturu.
10:39
We went into the village. We would mobilize the community.
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Odlazili smo u sela i pokretali zajednice.
10:42
We would make a center inside where 30 women will come
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Osnovali bismo tamo centar kamo bi dolazilo 30 žena
10:45
for six months to learn about value addition of traditional embroidery,
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na šest mjeseci kako bi učile o vrijednosti koju ima tradicionalan vez,
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enterprise development, life skills and basic education,
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o razvoju poduzetništva, životnim vještinama i osnovnoj edukaciji,
10:53
and about their rights and how to say no to those customs
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o svojim pravima i kako da se suprotstave tim običajima
10:56
and how to stand as leaders for themselves and the society.
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te kako da postanu vođe za same sebe i vođe u svom društvu.
10:59
After six months, we would connect these women to loans and to markets
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Poslije šest mjeseci, mogli smo povezati te žene sa zajmovima i tržištima
11:04
where they can become local entrepreneurs in their communities.
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gdje su mogle postati lokalne poduzetnice u svojim zajednicama.
11:08
We soon called this project Sughar.
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Uskoro smo ovaj projekt prozvali Sughar.
11:11
Sughar is a local word used in many, many languages in Pakistan.
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Sughar je lokalna riječ koja se koristi u mnogim jezicima u Pakistanu.
11:15
It means skilled and confident women.
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Označava iskusne i samouvjerene žene.
11:19
I truly believe, to create women leaders, there's only one thing you have to do:
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Doista vjerujem da je potrebna samo jedna stvar da stvorimo žene vođe:
11:24
Just let them know that they have what it takes to be a leader.
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Treba ih samo uvjeriti da posjeduju sve kvalitete kako bi postale vođe.
11:28
These women you see here,
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Ove žene koje vidite,
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they have strong skills and potential to be leaders.
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posjeduju snažne vještine i potencijal da postanu vođe.
11:34
All we had to do was remove the barriers that surrounded them,
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Mi smo jedino trebali ukloniti granice koje su ih okruživale,
11:37
and that's what we decided to do.
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i to smo odlučili napraviti.
11:40
But then while we were thinking everything was going well,
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No, dok smo mislili da sve ide u dobrom smjeru,
11:43
once again everything was fantastic,
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sve je opet bilo odlično,
11:46
we found our next setback:
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naišli smo na sljedeću prepreku:
11:48
A lot of men started seeing the visible changes in their wife.
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Mnogi muškarci počeli su primjećivati promjene kod svojih žena.
11:51
She's speaking more, she's making decisions --
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Više su pričale, donosile odluke --
11:53
oh my gosh, she's handling everything in the house.
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vodile cijelo kućanstvo.
11:56
They stopped them from coming to the centers,
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Zabranili su im da dolaze u centre,
12:00
and this time, we were like, okay, time for strategy two.
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a ovaj put smo se odlučili za drugu strategiju.
12:04
We went to the fashion industry in Pakistan
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Obratili smo se pakistanskoj modnoj industriji
12:06
and decided to do research about what happens there.
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i odlučili istražiti što se tamo događa.
12:10
Turns out the fashion industry in Pakistan is very strong and growing day by day,
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Ispostavilo se da je modna industrija u Pakistanu vrlo jaka i da se brzo razvija
12:15
but there is less contribution from the tribal areas
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no da u plemenskim područjima postoji manji doprinos toj industriji
12:19
and to the tribal areas, especially women.
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kao što je i manji doprinos tim područjima, posebice ženama.
12:22
So we decided to launch our first ever tribal women's very own fashion brand,
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Odlučili smo pokrenuti našu prvu modnu marku za žene u plemenima,
12:26
which is now called Nomads.
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koja se zove Nomads.
12:30
And so women started earning more,
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Tako su žene počele više zarađivati,
12:32
they started contributing more financially to the house,
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više novčano doprinositi kućanstvu,
12:35
and men had to think again before saying no to them
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a muškarci su morali dvaput promisliti prije no što im zabrane
12:38
when they were coming to the centers.
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da odlaze u centre.
12:43
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
12:46
Thank you, thank you.
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Hvala, hvala.
12:48
In 2013, we launched our first Sughar Hub instead of a center.
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Godine 2013. pokrenuli smo prvi Sughar Hub umjesto centra.
12:53
We partnered with TripAdvisor
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Sklopili smo partnerski odnos s TripAdvisorom
12:55
and created a cement hall in the middle of a village
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i izgradili cementnu dvoranu usred sela
12:59
and invited so many other organizations to work over there.
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i pozvali mnoge druge organizacije da dođu raditi tamo.
13:03
We created this platform for the nonprofits
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Kreirali smo platformu za neprofitne udruge
13:05
so they can touch and work on the other issues
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tako da se mogu baviti drugim problemima
13:08
that Sughar is not working on,
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kojima se Sughar ne bavi,
13:10
which would be an easy place for them to give trainings,
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a to bi im bilo zgodno mjesto na kojima bi mogli organizirati treninge,
13:14
use it as a farmer school, even as a marketplace,
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ili koristili kao školu za farmere, čak i kao tržnicu,
13:16
and anything they want to use it for,
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ili za bilo kakvu drugu svrhu,
13:19
and they have been doing really amazingly.
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a zaista odlično napreduju.
13:21
And so far, we have been able to support 900 women
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Dosad smo mogli pomoći 900 žena,
13:24
in 24 villages around Pakistan.
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u 24 sela diljem Pakistana.
13:28
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
13:33
But that's actually not what I want.
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No to nije ono što ja želim.
13:38
My dream is to reach out to one million women in the next 10 years,
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Moj je san da u sljedećih 10 godina pomognemo milijun žena,
13:43
and to make sure that happens,
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a da nam to uspije,
13:45
this year we launched Sughar Foundation in the U.S.
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ove godine smo pokrenuli Sughar zakladu u SAD-u.
13:48
It is not just going to fund Sughar but many other organizations in Pakistan
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Ona neće samo financirati Sughar već i mnoge druge organizacije u Pakistanu
13:52
to replicate the idea
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s ciljem da se ta ideja umnoži
13:55
and to find even more innovative ways
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i da se pronađe još više inovativnih načina
13:57
to unleash the rural women's potential in Pakistan.
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kako bismo oslobodili potencijal svih žena u ruralnom Pakistanu.
14:01
Thank you so much.
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Hvala vam puno.
14:03
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
14:06
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Hvala. Hvala. Hvala.
14:11
Chris Anderson: Khalida, you are quite the force of nature.
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Chris Anderson: Khalida, ti si prava sila prirode.
14:14
I mean, this story, in many ways, just seems beyond belief.
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Ova priča se, u mnogo načina, čini jednostavno nevjerojatna.
14:18
It's incredible that someone so young could do achieve this much
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Nevjerojatno je da netko tako mlad može postići ovoliko puno
14:23
through so much force and ingenuity.
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uz toliku snagu i domišljatost.
14:25
So I guess one question:
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Moje pitanje jest:
14:27
This is a spectacular dream to reach out and empower a million women --
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Ovo je osobit san, obuhvatiti i osnažiti milijun žena --
14:32
how much of the current success depends on you,
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koliko trenutnog uspjeha ovisi o tebi,
14:35
the force of this magnetic personality?
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o snazi tvoje magnetične osobnosti?
14:40
How does it scale?
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Koliki je njezin utjecaj?
14:42
Khalida Brohi: I think my job is to give the inspiration out,
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Khalida Brohi: Smatram da je moja zadaća da odašiljem inspiraciju,
14:47
give my dream out.
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da dijelim svoj san s drugima.
14:49
I can't teach how to do it, because there are so many different ways.
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Ne mogu poučiti druge kako da to naprave, jer postoji jako mnogo načina.
14:52
We have been experimenting with three ways only.
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Mi smo isprobali samo tri načina.
14:54
There are a hundred different ways to unleash potential in women.
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Postoji stotine načina kako možemo osloboditi potencijal u žena.
14:58
I would just give the inspiration and that's my job.
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Ja samo inspiriram i to je moja zadaća.
15:01
I will keep doing it. Sughar will still be growing.
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Nastavit ću s time. Sguhar će i dalje rasti.
15:03
We are planning to reach out to two more villages,
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Planiramo obuhvatiti još dva sela,
15:06
and soon I believe we will be scaling out of Pakistan
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i vjerujem da ćemo se uskoro proširiti izvan Pakistana
15:09
into South Asia and beyond.
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u južnu Aziju i dalje.
15:12
CA: I love that when you talked about your team in the talk,
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CA: Sviđa mi se kako si pričala o svojem timu,
15:15
I mean, you were all 18 at the time.
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vi ste svi u to vrijeme imali 18 godina.
15:18
What did this team look like?
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Kako je izgledao taj tim?
15:19
This was school friends, right?
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To su bile tvoje prijateljice iz škole?
15:21
KB: Do people here believe that I'm at an age
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KB: Nećete vjerovati da sam sada u dobi
15:26
where I'm supposed to be a grandmother in my village?
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kada bih u svome selu već trebala biti baka.
15:29
My mom was married at nine, and I am the oldest woman not married
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Moja majka je bila udana sa 9 godina, a ja sam najstarija neudana žena
15:35
and not doing anything in my life in my village.
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koja ne radi ništa u svome selu.
15:38
CA: Wait, wait, wait, not doing anything?
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CA: Čekaj, ne radiš ništa?
15:42
KB: No. CA: You're right.
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KB: Ne. CA: Imaš pravo.
15:44
KB: People feel sorry for me, a lot of times.
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KB: Ljudi me često žale.
15:47
CA: But how much time are you spending now actually back in Balochistan?
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CA: Koliko vremena provodiš u Baločistanu?
15:51
KB: I live over there.
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KB: Tamo živim.
15:53
We live between, still, Karachi and Balochistan.
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Još uvijek živimo na relaciji Karachi - Baločistan.
15:56
My siblings are all going to school.
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Moja braća i sestre još pohađaju školu.
15:58
I am still the oldest of eight siblings.
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Ja sam najstarija od osmero djece.
16:01
CA: But what you're doing is definitely threatening to some people there.
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CA: No, ovo što radiš sigurno nekim ljudima predstavlja prijetnju.
16:05
How do you handle safety? Do you feel safe?
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Kako se štitiš? Osjećaš li se sigurno?
16:10
Are there issues there?
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Ima li tamo problema?
16:12
KB: This question has come to me a lot of times before,
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KB: Često me to pitaju,
16:16
and I feel like the word "fear" just comes to me and then drops,
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a ja smatram da me riječ "strah" dotakne i onda otiđe,
16:22
but there is one fear that I have that is different from that.
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no imam jedan drukčiji strah.
16:26
The fear is that if I get killed, what would happen to the people
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Bojim se što će biti sa svim ljudima koji me vole
16:29
who love me so much?
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ako ja poginem.
16:31
My mom waits for me till late at night that I should come home.
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Moja majka me čeka dugo u noć dok se ne vratim kući.
16:35
My sisters want to learn so much from me,
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Moje sestre žele puno naučiti od mene,
16:38
and there are many, many girls in my community who want to talk to me
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i u mojoj zajednici ima mnogo djevojaka koje žele razgovarati sa mnom
16:41
and ask me different things,
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i pitati me razne stvari,
16:44
and I recently got engaged. (Laughs)
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a nedavno sam se i zaručila. (Smijeh)
16:46
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
16:49
CA: Is he here? You've got to stand up.
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CA: Je li on ovdje? Moraš se ustati.
16:52
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
17:00
KB: Escaping arranged marriages, I chose my own husband
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KB: Bježeći od ugovorenog braka, sama sam si izabrala muža,
17:03
across the world in L.A., a really different world.
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s druge strane svijeta u Los Angelesu, u zaista drukčijem svijetu.
17:08
I had to fight for a whole year. That's totally a different story.
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Morala sam se boriti godinu dana. No to je sasvim druga priča.
17:11
But I think that's the only thing that I'm afraid of,
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Mislim da je to jedino čega se bojim,
17:16
and I don't want my mom to not see anyone when she waits in the night.
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ne želim da me moja majka ne dočeka.
17:21
CA: So people who want to help you on their way,
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CA: Mogu li ljudi koji ti žele pomoći,
17:24
they can go on, they can maybe buy some of these clothes
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možda kupiti odjeću
17:27
that you're bringing over
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koju donosiš sa sobom
17:29
that are actually made, the embroidery is done back in Balochistan?
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koja je proizvedena, vezena u Baločistanu?
17:33
KB: Yeah.
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KB: Tako je.
17:34
CA: Or they can get involved in the foundation.
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CA: Mogu li se uključiti u zakladu?
17:36
KB: Definitely. We are looking for as many people as we can,
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KB: Svakako. Tražimo što više ljudi,
17:39
because now that the foundation's in the beginning process,
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jer sada kada je zaklada u početnoj fazi,
17:43
I am trying to learn a lot about how to operate,
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trudim se naučiti kako raditi,
17:45
how to get funding or reach out to more organizations,
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kako prikupiti novac ili kontaktirati druge organizacije,
17:50
and especially in the e-commerce, which is very new for me.
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posebno u elektroničkoj trgovini, što je za mene nešto sasvim novo.
17:53
I mean, I am not a fashion person, believe me.
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Nisam baš osoba koja se bavi modom.
17:55
CA: Well, it's been incredible to have you here.
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CA: Bila nam je čast ugostiti te ovdje.
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Please go on being courageous, go on being smart, and please stay safe.
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Budi i dalje hrabra, i pametna i čuvaj se.
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KB: Thank you so much. CA: Thank you, Khalida. (Applause)
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KB: Hvala vam puno. CA: Hvala tebi, Khalida. (Pljesak)
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