Are Elvish, Klingon, Dothraki and Na'vi real languages? - John McWhorter

So vilinščina, klingonščina, dothraščina in jezik na'vi pravi jeziki? - John McWhorter

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Are Elvish, Klingon, Dothraki and Na'vi real languages? - John McWhorter

So vilinščina, klingonščina, dothraščina in jezik na'vi pravi jeziki? - John McWhorter

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Translator: Nika Kotnik Reviewer: Matej Divjak
00:06
To many, one of the coolest things about "Game of Thrones"
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Za mnoge je ena izmed najbolj kul stvari
pri "Igri prestolov",
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is that the inhabitants of the Dothraki Sea
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da imajo prebivalci Dothraškega morja
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have their own real language.
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svoj lastni pravi jezik.
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And Dothraki came hot on the heels
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In Dothraki so sledili
00:16
of the real language that the Na'vi speak in "Avatar,"
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pravemu jeziku, ki ga Na'vi govorijo v "Avatarju",
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which, surely, the Na'vi needed
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ki so ga, zagotovo, Na'vi potrebovali,
00:21
when the Klingons in "Star Trek" have had their own whole language since 1979.
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ker so Klingoni v "Star Treku"
imeli svoj lasten jezik
že od 1979.
00:26
And let's not forget the Elvish languages
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In ne pozabimo na vilinske jezike
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in J.R.R. Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings" trilogy,
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v trilogiji "Gospodar prstanov" J. R. R. Tolkiena,
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especially since that was the official grandfather
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še posebej zato, ker je bil to uradni dedek
00:34
of the fantasy conlangs.
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fantazijskih umetnih jezikov.
00:37
"Conlang" is short for "constructed language."
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"Conlang je angleška skovanka za 'constructed language' oz. umetni jezik.
00:40
They're more than codes like Pig Latin,
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So več kot samo šifre pri prašičji latinščini,
00:43
and they're not just collections of fabricated slang like the Nadsat lingo
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in niso samo zbirka
izmišljenega slenga, kot je Nadsat govorica,
00:47
that the teen hoodlums in "A Clockwork Orange" speak,
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ki jo najstniški huligani
govorijo v "Peklenski pomaranči",
00:50
where "droog" from Russian happens to mean "friend."
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kjer droog iz ruščine
pomeni prijatelj.
00:52
What makes conlangs real languages isn't the number of words they have.
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Kar naredi umetne jezike prave jezike,
ni število besed, ki jih imajo.
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It helps, of course, to have a lot of words.
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Pomaga, seveda, da imaš veliko besed.
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Dothraki has thousands of words.
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Dothraščina ima na tisoče besed.
Jezik Na'vi je začel s 1500 besedami.
01:02
Na'vi started with 1,500 words.
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01:04
Fans on websites have steadily created more.
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Oboževalci na internetnih straneh so jih vztrajno ustvarili več.
01:07
But we can see the difference between vocabulary alone
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Ampak lahko vidimo razliko
med samo besediščem
01:10
and what makes a real language
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in med tem, kar naredi jezik resničen,
01:12
from a look at how Tolkien put together grand old Elvish,
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če pogledamo, kako je Tolkien
sestavil veličastno staro vilinščino,
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a conlang with several thousands words.
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umetni jezik z več tisoč besedami.
Navsezadnje, lahko si zapomnite 5000 besed v ruščini
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After all, you could memorize 5,000 words of Russian
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01:22
and still be barely able to construct a sentence.
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in še vedno komaj sestavite stavek.
01:24
A four-year-old would talk rings around you.
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Štiriletnik bi se norčeval iz vas.
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That's because you have to know how to put the words together.
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To je zato, ker morate vedeti,
kako skupaj postaviti besede.
01:30
That is, a real language has grammar.
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Se pravi, resnični jezik ima slovnico.
Vilinščina jo ima.
01:33
Elvish does.
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01:34
In English, to make a verb past, you add an "-ed."
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V angleščini, da naredimo preteklik,
dodamo "-ed"
01:38
Wash, washed.
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Wash, washed. (Perem, sem pral.)
01:39
In Elvish, "wash" is "allu"
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V vilinščini, je wash allu
01:42
and "washed" is "allune."
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in washed allune.
01:45
Real languages also change over time.
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Pravi jeziki se prav tako spreminjajo s časom.
01:47
There's no such thing as a language
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Ne obstaja
jezik, ki je enak danes,
01:49
that's the same today as it was a thousand years ago.
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kot je bil tisoč let nazaj.
01:52
As people speak, they drift into new habits,
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Ko ljudje govorijo, zdrsnejo v nove navade,
01:55
shed old ones,
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se znebijo starih,
01:56
make mistakes, and get creative.
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delajo napake
in so ustvarjalni.
01:58
Today, one says,
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Danes, nekdo reče,
02:00
"Give us today our daily bread."
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"Give us today our daily bread." (Daj nam danes naš vsakdanji kruh.)
02:02
In Old English, they said,
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V stari angleščini bi rekli
02:04
"Urne gedaeghwamlican hlaf syle us todaeg."
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"Urne gedaeghwamlican hlaf syle us todaeg." (Kruh naš vsedanji daj nam danas)
Stvari se spreminjajo tudi pri umetnih jezikih.
02:09
Things change in conlangs, too.
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02:11
Tolkien charted out ancient and newer versions of Elvish.
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Tolkien je je začrtal starodavno
in novejšo različico vilinščine.
02:15
When the first Elves awoke at Cuiviénen,
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Ko so se prvi Vilini zbudili na Cuivienenu,
02:17
in their new language,
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je bila v njihovem novem jeziku
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the word for "people" was "kwendi,"
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beseda za ljudi kwendi,
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but in the language of one of the groups that moved away, Teleri,
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ampak v jeziku ene izmed skupin,
ki se je odselila, Telerijev,
02:24
over time, "kwendi" became "pendi,"
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je čez čas kwendi postal pendi,
02:26
with the "k" turning into a "p."
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k se je spremenil v p.
In kot v resničnih jezikih,
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And just like real languages, conlangs like Elvish split off into many.
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se umetni jeziki, kot je vilinščina, razcepijo v mnoge.
02:34
When the Romans transplanted Latin across Europe,
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Ko so Rimljani razširili latinščino čez Evropo,
02:37
French, Spanish, and Italian were born.
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so se rodile francoščina, španščina in italijanščina.
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When groups move to different places,
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Ko se skupine selijo na različne kraje,
02:41
over time, their ways of speaking grow apart,
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se čez čas njihov način govora razide
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just like everything else about them.
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tako kot vse drugo.
02:46
Thus, Latin's word for hand was "manus,"
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Torej, latinska beseda za roko je manus,
02:48
but in French, it became "main,"
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ampak v francoščini je main,
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while in Spain it became "mano."
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medtem ko je v španščini postala mano.
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Tolkien made sure Elvish did the same kind of thing.
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Tolkien je poskrbel, da je bilo v vilinščini enako.
02:56
While that original word "kwendi" became "pendi"
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Ko je prvotna beseda kwendi postala pendi
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among the Teleri,
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med Teleriji,
03:00
among the Avari, who spread throughout Middle Earth,
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je med Avari, ki so se razširili po Srednjem svetu,
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it became "kindi" when the "w" dropped out.
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postala kindi,
ko je izpadel w.
Različici vilinščine, ki ju je Tolkien najbolj razvil,
03:07
The Elvish varieties Tolkien fleshed out the most
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sta Quenya in Sindarin
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are Quenya and Sindarin,
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03:11
and their words are different in the same way French and Spanish are.
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in njune besede so si različne,
kot sta si različni francoščina in španščina.
03:15
Quenya has "suc" for "drink,"
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Qenya ima za pijačo suc,
03:16
Sindarin has "sog."
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Sindarin pa sog.
03:19
And as you know, real languages are messy.
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In, kot veste, pravi jeziki so neurejeni.
03:22
That's because they change,
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To je zato, ker se spreminjajo,
03:23
and change has a way of working against order,
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in sprememba pogosto deluje proti urejenosti,
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just like in a living room or on a bookshelf.
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tako kot v dnevni sobi
ali pa na polici s knjigami.
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Real languages are never perfectly logical.
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Pravi jeziki nikoli niso popolnoma logični.
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That's why Tolkien made sure that Elvish had plenty of exceptions.
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Zato je Tolkien poskrbel,
da ima vilinščina mnogo izjem.
Veliko glagolov se sklanja na način,
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Lots of verbs are conjugated in ways you just have to know.
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ki ga preprosto morate vedeti.
03:39
Take even the word "know."
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Vzemimo celo besedo know (vedeti).
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In the past, it's "knew,"
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V pretekliku je knew (sem vedel),
03:43
which isn't explained by any of the rules in English.
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česar ne razložijo nobena pravila angleščine.
Ah, ja.
03:47
Oh well.
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03:48
In Elvish, "know" is "ista,"
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V vilinščini je know ista
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but "knew" is "sinte."
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in knew sinte.
03:52
Oh well.
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Ah, ja.
Ampak resnica je,
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The truth is, though, that Elvish is more a sketch for a real language
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da je vilinščina bolj zasnova pravega jezika,
03:57
than a whole one.
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kot celota.
Za Tolkiena je bila vilinščina bolj hobi,
03:59
For Tolkien, Elvish was a hobby
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04:01
rather than an attempt to create something people could actually speak.
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kot pa namen ustvariti nekaj,
kar bi ljudje lahko dejansko govorili.
04:04
Much of the Elvish the characters in the "Lord of the Rings" movies speak
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Veliko vilinščine, ki jo govorijo
osebe v filmih "Gospodar prstanov",
04:08
has been made up since Tolkien by dedicated fans of Elvish
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so si po Tolkienu izmislili
predani oboževalci vilinščine,
04:11
based on guesses as to what Tolkien would have constructed.
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z ugibanji o tem,
kaj bi Tolkien ustvaril.
04:15
That's the best we can do for Elvish because there are no actual Elves around
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To je največ, kar pri vilinščini lahko naredimo,
ker tu ni nobenih Vilincev,
04:19
to speak it for us.
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da bi jo govorili.
04:21
But the modern conlangs go further.
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Ampak moderni umetni jeziki gredo še dlje.
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Dothraki, Na'vi, and Klingon are developed enough
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Dothraščina, jezik Na'Vi in klingonščina so dovolj razviti,
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that you can actually speak them.
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da jih lahko dejansko govorimo.
04:28
Here's a translation of "Hamlet" into Klingon,
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Tu je prevod "Hamleta" v klingonščino,
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although performing it would mean getting used
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čeprav bi se za uprizarjanje morali navaditi
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to pronouncing "k" with your uvula,
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izgovorjave k z uvulo,
04:35
that weird, cartoony thing hanging in the back of your throat.
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tisto čudno, risankasto stvarjo, ki visi
zadaj v grlu.
04:38
Believe it or not, you actually do that in plenty of languages around the world,
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Verjemite ali ne,
to počnejo v mnogih
jezikih po svetu,
04:42
like Eskimo ones.
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na primer eskimskih.
04:44
Pronouncing Elvish is much easier, though.
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Izgovorjava vilinščine je veliko lažja.
Poslovimo se za zdaj
04:47
So, let's take our leave for now
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04:49
from this introduction to conlangs in Elvish
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od te predstavitve umetnih jezikov v vilinščini
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and the other three conlangs discussed
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in treh drugih umetnih jezikih
04:53
with a heartfelt quad-conlangual valedictory:
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s prisrčnim štirijezičnim poslovilnim nagovorom:
"A na marie!"
04:58
"A Na Marie!"
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04:59
"Hajas!"
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"Hajas!"
05:00
Na'vi's "Kiyevame!"
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Na'vi-jskim "Kiyevame!"
05:01
"Qapla!"
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"Qapla'!"
05:02
and "Goodbye!"
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in "Nasvidenje!"
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