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譯者: Bert Chen
審譯者: Ekaterina Saraeva
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I'd like to talk to you today
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今天 我想和大家談談
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about a whole new way to think
about sexual activity
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如何用一個全新的角度 去思考性活動
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and sexuality education, by comparison.
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和性教育 兩者相比
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If you talk to someone today in America
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如果在美國 今天你和某人談論
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about sexual activity,
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有關性活動的事情
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you'll find pretty soon
you're not just talking
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你很快就會發現 你不只是在聊
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about sexual activity.
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性活動
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You're also talking about baseball.
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你們可能還會聊到棒球
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Because baseball is the dominant
cultural metaphor
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因為棒球是一種主流文化喻象
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that Americans use to think about
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美國人會想到
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and talk about sexual activity,
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聊天談到性生活時
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and we know that because there's
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我們會知道是因為
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all this language in English
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在英文裡 所有這種言語
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that seems to be talking about baseball
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都聽起來好像是在講棒球
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but that's really talking
about sexual activity.
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但是其實都是在談論性活動
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So, for example, you can
be a pitcher or a catcher,
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舉個例子 你是位投手或是捕手
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and that corresponds to whether you
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但其實在比喻
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perform a sexual act
or receive a sexual act.
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你是主動方還是被動方
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Of course, there are the bases,
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當然說上了幾壘這種就更不用說了
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which refer to specific sexual activities
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每一壘都代表特定的性活動進度
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that happen in a very specific order,
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發生在一個非常特定的順序
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ultimately resulting in scoring a run
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最後就是要跑回本壘得分
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or hitting a home run,
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或轟出一支全壘打
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which is usually having
vaginal intercourse
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那通常指的是發生第一次性行為
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to the point of orgasm,
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就有高潮
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at least for the guy.
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至少男的會有
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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You can strike out, which means
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你也可能被三振出局 意思是
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you don't get to have any sexual activity.
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你沒有進行任何性活動
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And if you're a benchwarmer,
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如果你是一位板凳球員
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you might be a virgin or somebody who for
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那可能表示 你是一位處男、處女
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whatever reason isn't in the game,
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或是一位與這場無關的人
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maybe because of your age
or because of your ability
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可能是因為你的年紀或能力
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or because of your skillset.
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或是因為你的技巧
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A bat's a penis,
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球棒指的是男性生殖器
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and a nappy dugout
is a vulva, or a vagina.
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球員休息區則是指女性陰唇或陰道
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A glove or a catcher's mitt is a condom.
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手套或是捕手套就是保險套
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A switch-hitter is a bisexual person,
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如果說一個人能夠左右開弓
意思是他是一位雙性戀者
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and we gay and lesbian folks
play for the other team.
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不管是男同志還是女同志
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And then there's this one:
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還有一句話是這麼說的
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"if there's grass
on the field, play ball."
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『只要球場上有草,就可以打球了』
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And that usually refers to
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這通常是指
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if a young person, specifically
often a young woman,
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如果一位年輕人 通常指的是年輕女性
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is old enough to have pubic hair,
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她的年紀已經夠大 開始會長陰毛
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she's old enough to have sex with.
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也表示她已經到適當年紀
可以與他人有性行為
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This baseball model
is incredibly problematic.
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拿棒球來比喻「性」會造成非常多問題
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It's sexist. It's heterosexist.
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這種比喻是性別主義 是異性戀主義
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It's competitive. It's goal-directed.
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具有競爭意味 而且是目標導向
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And it can't result in healthy sexuality
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這種比喻方式無法導致
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developing in young people or in adults.
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讓年輕人或成人發展健康的性活動
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So we need a new model.
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所以我們需要一個新的模範
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I'm here today to offer
you that new model.
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今天我在這裡就是要給大家看看新的模組
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And it's based on
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這是以
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pizza.
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披薩為模組
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Now pizza is something
that is universally understood
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現在人人都知道披薩
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and that most people associate
with a positive experience.
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並且大多數人對披薩都有正向經驗
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So let's do this.
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所以我們來試試看
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Let's take baseball
and pizza and compare it
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我們拿棒球和披薩來比較一下
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when talking about three aspects
of sexual activity:
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談到性活動的三個面向的時候
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the trigger for sexual activity,
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性活動的觸發點
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what happens during sexual activity,
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在從事性活動的時候
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and the expected outcome
of sexual activity.
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以及希望性活動帶來的結果
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So when do you play baseball?
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所以你在打棒球的時候?
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You play baseball when
it's baseball season
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你會在球季開始的時候打棒球
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and when there's a game on the schedule.
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有一場排定的比賽的時候
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It's not exactly your choice.
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你無法選擇
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So if it's prom night or a wedding night
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所以如果是舞會之夜或婚禮之夜
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or at a party or if our parents
aren't home,
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或是在派對上或如果我們的父母不在家
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hey, it's just batter up.
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我們就準備來翻雲覆雨
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Can you imagine saying to your coach,
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你能想像一下 對你的教練說
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"Uh, I'm not really feeling it today,
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我今天狀態不太好
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I think I'll sit this game out."
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我想我還是不要上場比賽
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That's just not the way it happens.
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事情不是這樣子的
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And when you get together
to play baseball,
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你們在一起打棒球的時候
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immediately you're
with two opposing teams,
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馬上就要分成兩隊
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one playing offense, one playing defense,
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一邊扮演進攻方 另一邊扮演防守方
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somebody's trying to move
deeper into the field.
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有人想試著更深入球場
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That's usually a sign to the boy.
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那通常是指的是男生
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Somebody's trying to defend
people moving into the field.
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有人試著防守不讓人進入
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That's often given to the girl.
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通常指的是女生
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It's competitive.
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競爭非常激烈
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We're not playing with each other.
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我們不是在玩
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We're playing against each other.
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我們是在互相對抗
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And when you show up to play baseball,
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你要去打棒球的時候
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nobody needs to talk
about what we're going to do
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大家都知道我們要做什麼
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or how this baseball game
might be good for us.
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這場球賽對我們有什麼好處
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Everybody knows the rules.
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大家都知道規則
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You just take your position
and play the game.
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你就只要站好你的位置 開始比賽
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But when do you have pizza?
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但是你什麼時候會去吃披薩?
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Well, you have pizza when
you're hungry for pizza.
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當然是在你非常想吃披薩的時候
你就會去吃披薩
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It starts with an internal sense,
an internal desire, or a need.
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這是源自於一種內在的感受、欲望或是需求
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"Huh. I could go for some pizza."
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我想去吃披薩
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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And because it's an internal desire,
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因為這是一種內在的欲望
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we actually have some sense
of control over that.
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事實上我們有些許控制感
想去控制內在欲望
我可以決定 我很餓
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I could decide that I'm hungry
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04:19
but know that it's not
a great time to eat.
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但我知道現在還不到吃飯的時候
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And then when we get together
with someone for pizza,
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我們跟他人一起去吃披薩的時候
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we're not competing with them,
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我們不是在跟他們競爭
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we're looking for an experience
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我們是在尋找一種經驗
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that both of us will share
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讓我們兩個能夠共同分享
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that's satisfying for both of us,
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同時滿足我們雙方
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and when you get together
for pizza with somebody,
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我們跟某人一起去吃披薩的時候
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what's the first thing you do?
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第一件事你會做什麼?
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You talk about it.
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你會討論要吃那種披薩
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You talk about what you want.
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你會說出你的需求
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You talk about what you like.
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你會談到你喜歡什麼東西
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You may even negotiate it.
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你甚至可能會忽略它
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"How do you feel
about pepperoni?" (Laughter)
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你覺得義式香腸好不好吃?(笑聲)
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"Not so much, I'm kind
of a mushroom guy myself."
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感覺還好 我個人比較喜歡吃洋菇
04:50
"Well, maybe we can go half and half."
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也許我們可以各來一點
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And even if you've had pizza with somebody
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即使你跟某人一起吃披薩
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for a very long time,
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已經有一段很長的時間
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don't you still say things like,
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難道妳不會說這種話 就像是
04:59
"Should we get the usual?"
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我們應該常吃嗎?
05:01
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
05:02
"Or maybe something
a little more adventurous?"
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或者做一些更有冒險感覺的事情
05:06
Okay, so when you're playing baseball,
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好 所以你在打棒球的時候
05:08
so if we talk
about during sexual activity,
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所以我們在從事性活動的時候
談到棒球
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when you're playing baseball,
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你在打棒球的時候
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you're just supposed to round the bases
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你只要去跑壘
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in the proper order one at a time.
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在一定的順序之下 一次上一壘
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You can't hit the ball
and run to right field.
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你不能擊球
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That doesn't work.
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那樣沒用
05:19
And you also can't get
to second base and say,
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你也不能跑到二壘 說
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"I like it here. I'm going to stay here."
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我喜歡在這裡 我想待在這裡
05:26
No.
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不行
05:28
And also, of course,
with baseball, there's, like,
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當然 說到棒球 當然有
05:30
the specific equipment
and a specific skill set.
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特定的裝備和技巧組合
不是每個人都可以打棒球
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Not everybody can play baseball.
It's pretty exclusive.
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05:36
Okay, but what about pizza?
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好 但是披薩呢?
05:38
When we're trying to figure
out what's good for pizza,
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我們試著要了解披薩有什麼好吃的時候
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isn't it all about what's our pleasure?
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這不都與我們的意願有關嗎?
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There are a million different
kinds of pizza.
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有一百萬種不同的披薩
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There's a million different toppings.
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有一百萬種不同的配料
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There's a million different
ways to eat pizza.
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有一百萬種不同的披薩吃法
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And none of them are wrong.
They're different.
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都沒有錯 他們都不一樣
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And in this case, difference is good,
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就這個例子而言 有差異是件好事
05:54
because that's going
to increase the chance
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因為這將能夠增加機會
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that we're having a satisfying experience.
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讓我們有個滿意的經驗
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And lastly, what's the expected
outcome of baseball?
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最後這場棒球賽期望的結果是什麼?
06:02
Well, in baseball, you play to win.
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在棒球領域而言,你打棒球是為了要獲勝
06:06
You score as many runs as you can.
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你盡可能多跑壘得分
06:08
There's always a winner in baseball,
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打棒球的時候 一定會有贏家
06:10
and that means there's always
a loser in baseball.
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也就是說 也會有輸家
06:14
But what about pizza?
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但披薩呢?
06:15
Well, in pizza, we're not really --
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就披薩而言 我們不是真的
06:17
there's no winning. How do you win pizza?
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這方面沒有輸贏 你要怎麼贏得披薩?
06:21
You don't. But you do look for,
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你沒辦法 但是你會去找披薩
06:24
"Are we satisfied?"
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我們滿意嗎?
06:26
And sometimes that can
be different amounts
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有時候 我們吃的數量會不一樣
06:28
over different times
or with different people
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次數不一樣 或是跟不同人一起吃
06:30
or on different days.
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或是在不同日子
06:32
And we get to decide
when we feel satisfied.
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我們必須決定我們什麼時候覺得滿意
06:35
If we're still hungry,
we might have some more.
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如果我們還很餓 可能就多吃一點
06:38
If you eat too much, though,
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如果你吃太多
06:40
you just feel gross.
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你只會覺得想吐
06:42
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
06:44
So what if we could take this pizza model
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所以假使我們拿這個披薩模組
06:47
and overlay it on top
of sexuality education?
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套用在性教育上
06:50
A lot of sexuality education
that happens today
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今日許多性教育
06:53
is so influenced by the baseball model,
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都深受棒球模組的影響
06:56
and it sets up education that can't help
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以這種模組建立起的教育
07:00
but produce unhealthy
sexuality in young people.
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不得不對年輕人產生不健康的性活動
07:04
And those young people
become older people.
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讓那些年輕人的思想變得更老化
07:06
But if we could create sexuality education
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但是如果我們能創造出一套性教育方式
07:09
that was more like pizza,
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更像是披薩譬喻的方法
07:12
we could create education
that invites people
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我們創造出一套教育方法 邀請民眾
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to think about their own desires,
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思考他們自己的性欲
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to make deliberate decisions
about what they want,
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經過深思熟慮做下他們想要的決定
07:21
to talk about it with their partners,
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跟他們的父母談談「性」
07:23
and to ultimately look for
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最後
07:25
not some external outcome
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不是要尋找外部結果
07:28
but for what feels satisfying,
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而是要尋找怎樣會讓我們覺得滿意
07:31
and we get to decide that.
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我們必須決定
07:34
You may have noticed
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你們可能已經注意到
07:35
in the baseball and pizza comparison,
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在棒球和披薩的比較之下
07:37
under the baseball, it's all commands.
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在棒球領域 都是命令的方式
07:40
They're all exclamation points.
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他們都是驚嘆號
07:42
But under the pizza
model, they're questions.
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但是在披薩模組 他們都是問號
07:45
And who gets to answer those questions?
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誰會回答這些問題呢?
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You do. I do.
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你會 我也會
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So remember, when we're thinking about
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所已請記得 當我們想到
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sexuality education and sexual activity,
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性教育 性活動
07:56
baseball, you're out.
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棒球的時候 你就出局了
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Pizza is the way to think about healthy,
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披薩是一種方式 思考健康
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satisfying sexual activity,
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令人滿意的性活動
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and good, comprehensive
sexuality education.
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和適當且具廣泛性的性教育
08:06
Thank you very much for your time.
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謝謝大家
08:09
(Applause)
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