Al Vernacchio: Sex needs a new metaphor. Here's one ...

348,066 views ・ 2013-07-15

TED


μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ²ˆμ—­: Mi-jung Pyeon κ²€ν† : tae-gon Lee
00:12
I'd like to talk to you today
0
12581
2246
μ €λŠ” 였늘 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ—κ²Œ
00:14
about a whole new way to think about sexual activity
1
14851
4162
성관계와 μ„±κ΅μœ‘μ— λŒ€ν•œ μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ λ°œμƒμ„ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•˜λ € ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:19
and sexuality education, by comparison.
2
19037
4049
비ꡐλ₯Ό ν†΅ν•΄μ„œμš”.
00:23
If you talk to someone today in America
3
23110
2642
μ˜€λŠ˜λ‚  λ―Έκ΅­μ—μ„œ λˆ„κ΅°κ°€κ³Ό
00:25
about sexual activity,
4
25776
1800
성관계에 λŒ€ν•΄ 이야기 ν•  λ•Œ
00:27
you'll find pretty soon you're not just talking
5
27600
3624
μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•˜λŠ” 것이
00:31
about sexual activity.
6
31248
1634
단지 성관계가 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
00:32
You're also talking about baseball.
7
32906
3022
야ꡬ κ²½κΈ° μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°λΌλŠ” 것을 μ•Œ κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:35
Because baseball is the dominant cultural metaphor
8
35952
4210
μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ μ•Όκ΅¬λŠ” κ°€μž₯ 주된 문화적 λΉ„μœ λ‘œ,
00:40
that Americans use to think about
9
40186
2494
미ꡭ인듀이 ν”νžˆ
00:42
and talk about sexual activity,
10
42704
2825
성관계λ₯Ό 이야기할 λ•Œ μ‚¬μš©ν•˜κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:45
and we know that because there's
11
45553
1524
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ λΉ„μœ λ₯Ό
00:47
all this language in English
12
47101
2560
μ˜μ–΄ ν‘œν˜„λ“€ λ•Œλ¬Έμ— μ•Œκ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:49
that seems to be talking about baseball
13
49685
2921
야ꡬ에 λŒ€ν•œ 이야기 κ°™μ§€λ§Œ
00:52
but that's really talking about sexual activity.
14
52630
3835
싀은 성관계λ₯Ό μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•˜λŠ” ν‘œν˜„λ“€ λ§μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:56
So, for example, you can be a pitcher or a catcher,
15
56489
3175
예λ₯Ό λ“€μ–΄, μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ€ νˆ¬μˆ˜λ‚˜ ν¬μˆ˜κ°€ 될 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:59
and that corresponds to whether you
16
59688
1903
이것은 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄
01:01
perform a sexual act or receive a sexual act.
17
61615
3744
성관계λ₯Ό 주체적으둜 ν•˜λŠ”μ§€, μˆ˜λ™μ μœΌλ‘œ λ°›λŠ”μ§€μ— 달렸죠.
01:05
Of course, there are the bases,
18
65383
982
λ‹Ήμ—°νžˆ λ² μ΄μŠ€λ“€λ„ μžˆλŠ”λ°
01:06
which refer to specific sexual activities
19
66389
3194
μ΄λŠ” μ„±κ΄€κ³„μ˜ ꡬ체적 μˆœμ„œλ₯Ό κ°€λ¦¬ν‚΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:09
that happen in a very specific order,
20
69607
3191
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 맀우 ꡬ체적인 μˆœμ„œλ₯Ό 톡해,
01:12
ultimately resulting in scoring a run
21
72822
2754
ꢁ극적으둜 득점을 ν•˜κ±°λ‚˜
01:15
or hitting a home run,
22
75600
980
ν™ˆλŸ°μ„ 치게 되죠.
01:16
which is usually having vaginal intercourse
23
76604
2284
이런 κ²°κ³ΌλŠ”, μ„±κ΄€κ³„μ—μ„œ
01:18
to the point of orgasm,
24
78912
1688
였λ₯΄κ°€μ¦˜μ— 이λ₯΄λŠ” 성ꡐλ₯Ό λœ»ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:20
at least for the guy.
25
80624
2369
적어도 λ‚¨μžλ“€μ—κ²ŒλŠ”μš”.
01:23
(Laughter)
26
83017
1905
(μ›ƒμŒ)
01:24
You can strike out, which means
27
84946
1477
삼진 μ•„μ›ƒλ˜μ—ˆλ‹€λŠ” 것은
01:26
you don't get to have any sexual activity.
28
86447
2461
μ–΄λ–€ 성관계도 ν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν–ˆλ‹€λŠ” 뜻이고
01:28
And if you're a benchwarmer,
29
88932
1334
후보 μ„ μˆ˜λΌκ³  ν•˜λ©΄,
01:30
you might be a virgin or somebody who for
30
90290
2391
그건 μ²˜λ…€μΌμˆ˜λ„ 있고 μ–΄λ–€ μ΄μœ μ—μ„œλ“ 
01:32
whatever reason isn't in the game,
31
92705
2225
κ²Œμž„μ— μ°Έκ°€ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ€ μ‚¬λžŒμ΄λž€ 뜻일 κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:34
maybe because of your age or because of your ability
32
94954
3141
μ•„λ§ˆλ„ λ‚˜μ΄λ‚˜ λŠ₯λ ₯,
01:38
or because of your skillset.
33
98119
3022
ν˜Ήμ€ μ‹€λ ₯ λ•Œλ¬Έμ΄κ² μ§€μš”
01:41
A bat's a penis,
34
101165
1594
λ°©λ§μ΄λŠ” 음경이고
01:42
and a nappy dugout is a vulva, or a vagina.
35
102783
4045
더그아웃은 μ™ΈμŒλΆ€λ₯Ό λ§ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:46
A glove or a catcher's mitt is a condom.
36
106852
3084
ν¬μˆ˜λ‚˜ 1루수의 κΈ€λŸ¬λΈŒλŠ” μ½˜λ”μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€
01:49
A switch-hitter is a bisexual person,
37
109960
2893
μŠ€μœ„μΉ˜νžˆν„° λŠ” μ–‘μ„±μ• μžμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. (* 곡을 쒌,우 μ–‘ μ†μœΌλ‘œ λ‹€ μΉ  수 μžˆλŠ” νƒ€μž)
01:52
and we gay and lesbian folks play for the other team.
38
112877
3668
κ²Œμ΄μ™€ λ ˆμ¦ˆλΉ„μ–Έμ€ μƒλŒ€ νŒ€μ΄ λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:56
And then there's this one:
39
116569
2575
그리고 이런 것도 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:59
"if there's grass on the field, play ball."
40
119168
4000
"ν•„λ“œμ— 풀이 자라면, κ²½κΈ°λ₯Ό μ‹œμž‘ν•΄λΌ"
02:03
And that usually refers to
41
123192
2380
μ΄λŠ” λŒ€κ²Œ
02:05
if a young person, specifically often a young woman,
42
125596
3333
μ Šμ€ μ‚¬λžŒ, 특히 μ Šμ€ 여성이
02:08
is old enough to have pubic hair,
43
128953
1708
음λͺ¨κ°€ λ‚  μ •λ„λ‘œ μ„±μž₯ν–ˆλ‹€λ©΄
02:10
she's old enough to have sex with.
44
130685
2701
κ·Έλ…€λŠ” 성관계λ₯Ό 맺을 만큼 μ„±μˆ™ν–ˆλ‹€λŠ” λœ»μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:13
This baseball model is incredibly problematic.
45
133410
2959
야ꡬ λͺ¨λΈμ€ λ¬Έμ œκ°€ μ‹¬κ°ν•˜κ²Œ λ§ŽμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:16
It's sexist. It's heterosexist.
46
136393
2327
이것은 성차별이며, λ™μ„±μ• μ°¨λ³„μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:18
It's competitive. It's goal-directed.
47
138744
2352
λ˜ν•œ 경쟁적이며, λͺ©ν‘œ 지ν–₯μ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:21
And it can't result in healthy sexuality
48
141120
2759
이 λͺ¨λΈμ€ λΆˆκ±΄μ „ν•œ 성관념을
02:23
developing in young people or in adults.
49
143903
3024
μ Šμ€μ΄λ“€κ³Ό μ–΄λ₯Έλ“€μ—κ²Œ μ‹¬μ–΄μ€λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:26
So we need a new model.
50
146951
1698
κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μš°λ¦¬μ—κ² μƒˆ λͺ¨λΈμ΄ ν•„μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:28
I'm here today to offer you that new model.
51
148673
2535
μ €λŠ” 였늘 μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ λͺ¨λΈμ„ μ œμ‹œν•˜λ €κ³  이 μžλ¦¬μ— μ„°μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:31
And it's based on
52
151232
1751
이 λͺ¨λΈμ€
02:33
pizza.
53
153007
1802
ν”Όμž λͺ¨λΈμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:34
Now pizza is something that is universally understood
54
154833
3423
ν”ΌμžλŠ” μ „μ„Έκ³„μ μœΌλ‘œ 이해가 κ°€λŠ₯ν•˜κ³ 
02:38
and that most people associate with a positive experience.
55
158280
2873
λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ 긍정적인 κ²½ν—˜μ„ μ—°μƒμ‹œν‚΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:41
So let's do this.
56
161177
956
κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ ν•΄λ΄…μ‹œλ‹€.
02:42
Let's take baseball and pizza and compare it
57
162157
2945
야ꡬ λͺ¨λΈκ³Ό ν”Όμž λͺ¨λΈμ„ 두고 λΉ„κ΅ν•΄λ΄…μ‹œλ‹€.
02:45
when talking about three aspects of sexual activity:
58
165126
3420
μ„±κ΄€κ³„μ˜ 3가지 면을 μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ λ¬˜μ‚¬ν•˜λŠ”μ§€ 보죠:
02:48
the trigger for sexual activity,
59
168570
1629
μ²«μ§ΈλŠ”, μ„±κ΄€κ³„μ˜ 계기,
02:50
what happens during sexual activity,
60
170223
2194
λ‘˜μ§ΈλŠ” 성관계 쀑에 μΌμ–΄λ‚˜λŠ” 일,
02:52
and the expected outcome of sexual activity.
61
172441
3128
그리고 μ…‹μ§ΈλŠ” 성관계 ν›„ μ˜ˆμƒλ˜λŠ” κ²°κ³Όμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:55
So when do you play baseball?
62
175593
2784
μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ μ–Έμ œ 야ꡬ κ²½κΈ°λ₯Ό ν•˜μ£ ?
02:58
You play baseball when it's baseball season
63
178401
2416
야ꡬ μ‹œμ¦Œμ΄ 되고
03:00
and when there's a game on the schedule.
64
180841
2258
일정을 μ •ν–ˆμ„ λ•Œ κ²½κΈ°λ₯Ό ν•  κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:03
It's not exactly your choice.
65
183123
2286
이것은 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ˜ 선택이라고 보기 μ–΄λ ΅μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:05
So if it's prom night or a wedding night
66
185433
2872
μ‘Έμ—… νŒŒν‹°λ‚˜, κ²°ν˜Όμ‹ λ‚  밀이라든가,
03:08
or at a party or if our parents aren't home,
67
188329
3046
ν˜Ήμ€ νŒŒν‹°μž₯, λ˜λŠ” λΆ€λͺ¨λ‹˜μ΄ 집에 μ•ˆκ³„μ‹€ λ•Œ,
03:11
hey, it's just batter up.
68
191399
2708
" κ²½κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν•˜μž!" 라고 ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:14
Can you imagine saying to your coach,
69
194131
1762
μ„ μˆ˜κ°€ μ½”μΉ˜μ—κ²Œ 이런 말을 ν•  수 μžˆμ„κΉŒμš”?
03:15
"Uh, I'm not really feeling it today,
70
195917
2477
"μ•„..μ˜€λŠ˜μ€ 기뢄이 쒋지 μ•Šμ•„μš”...
03:18
I think I'll sit this game out."
71
198418
2043
μ˜€λŠ˜μ€ κ²Œμž„ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šκ³  앉아 μžˆμ„λž˜μš”."
03:20
That's just not the way it happens.
72
200485
2068
μ•Όκ΅¬μ—μ„œλŠ” λΆˆκ°€λŠ₯ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:22
And when you get together to play baseball,
73
202577
2048
그리고 야ꡬ κ²½κΈ°λ₯Ό ν•˜λŸ¬ λͺ¨μ΄λ©΄,
03:24
immediately you're with two opposing teams,
74
204649
2427
μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ κ·Έ μ¦‰μ‹œ 두 개의 λŒ€μ ν•  νŒ€μœΌλ‘œ λ‚˜λ‰©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:27
one playing offense, one playing defense,
75
207100
2306
ν•˜λ‚˜λŠ” κ³΅κ²©νŒ€, ν•˜λ‚˜λŠ” μˆ˜λΉ„νŒ€μ΄ λ˜λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:29
somebody's trying to move deeper into the field.
76
209430
2771
κ³΅κ²©νŒ€μ€ ν•„λ“œ μ•ˆμœΌλ‘œ 더 κΉŠμˆ™νžˆ λ“€μ–΄κ°€λ €κ³  ν•  것이고,
03:32
That's usually a sign to the boy.
77
212225
1909
그것은 λŒ€κ²Œ 남성에 ν•΄λ‹Ήν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:34
Somebody's trying to defend people moving into the field.
78
214158
3012
λˆ„κ΅°κ°€λŠ” κ³΅κ²©νŒ€μ΄ ν•„λ“œ μ•ˆμœΌλ‘œ λ“€μ–΄μ˜€μ§€ λͺ»ν•˜κ²Œ 막을 것이고
03:37
That's often given to the girl.
79
217194
2205
이건 λŒ€κ²Œ 여성에 ν•΄λ‹Ήν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:39
It's competitive.
80
219423
1011
μ΄λŠ” 맀우 κ²½μŸμ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:40
We're not playing with each other.
81
220458
1765
ν•¨κ»˜ μ–΄μšΈλ €ν•˜λŠ” κ²½κΈ°ν•˜λŠ” 것이 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ,
03:42
We're playing against each other.
82
222247
1383
μ„œλ‘œμ— λŒ€μ ν•΄μ„œ κ²½κΈ°λ₯Ό ν•˜κ²Œ λ˜λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:43
And when you show up to play baseball,
83
223654
1908
그리고 μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 야ꡬ 경기에 λ‚˜μ˜¬ λ•Œ,
03:45
nobody needs to talk about what we're going to do
84
225586
2520
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 무엇을 ν•  것인지 말할 ν•„μš”κ°€ μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:48
or how this baseball game might be good for us.
85
228130
2517
ν˜Ήμ€ 이 κ²½κΈ°κ°€ μš°λ¦¬μ—κ²Œ 쒋을지 말할 ν•„μš”λ„ μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:50
Everybody knows the rules.
86
230671
1239
λͺ¨λ‘κ°€ 경기의 κ·œμΉ™μ„ μ•ŒκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:51
You just take your position and play the game.
87
231934
4355
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” κ·Έμ € μœ„μΉ˜λ₯Ό 맑아 κ²½κΈ°λ₯Ό ν•˜λ©΄ λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:56
But when do you have pizza?
88
236313
2336
κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ ν”Όμž λͺ¨λΈμ€ μ–΄λ–¨κΉŒμš”?
03:58
Well, you have pizza when you're hungry for pizza.
89
238673
4218
음, μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ€ μ•„λ§ˆ ν”Όμž 생각이 λ‚  λ•Œ ν”Όμžλ₯Ό 먹을 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:02
It starts with an internal sense, an internal desire, or a need.
90
242915
4070
이것은 내면적인 감각, μš•κ΅¬, ν˜Ήμ€ ν•„μš”μ— μ˜ν•΄μ„œ μ‹œμž‘λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:07
"Huh. I could go for some pizza."
91
247009
3648
"μžˆμ§€, λ‚˜ ν”Όμž 먹으러 갈래!"
04:10
(Laughter)
92
250681
2233
(μ›ƒμŒ)
04:12
And because it's an internal desire,
93
252938
2953
그리고 그것은 내적 동기이기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ—,
04:15
we actually have some sense of control over that.
94
255915
2334
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ‹€μ œλ‘œ 성관계λ₯Ό ν†΅μ œν•  감각을 κ°€μ§€κ²Œ λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
μ €λŠ” μ œκ°€ λ°°κ³ ν”ˆμ§€ κ²°μ •ν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:18
I could decide that I'm hungry
95
258273
1530
04:19
but know that it's not a great time to eat.
96
259827
3507
κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ μ§€κΈˆμ€ ν”Όμžλ₯Ό λ¨ΉκΈ°μ—” 쒋지 μ•Šμ€ λ•ŒλΌλŠ” 것을 μ•Œκ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:23
And then when we get together with someone for pizza,
97
263358
2638
그리고 μš°λ¦¬κ°€ λˆ„κ΅°κ°€μ™€ ν•¨κ»˜ ν”Όμžλ₯Ό 먹으러 갈 λ•Œ,
04:26
we're not competing with them,
98
266020
2826
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” κ·Έλ“€κ³Ό κ²½μŸν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:28
we're looking for an experience
99
268870
1476
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” κ²½ν—˜μ„ μ°Ύμ£ .
04:30
that both of us will share
100
270370
1262
ν•¨κ»˜ κ³΅μœ ν•  수 있고,
04:31
that's satisfying for both of us,
101
271656
1950
우리 λ‘˜ λͺ¨λ‘λ₯Ό μΆ©μ‘±μ‹œν‚¬ 수 μžˆλŠ” κ²½ν—˜ λ§μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:33
and when you get together for pizza with somebody,
102
273630
2981
그리고 μš°λ¦¬κ°€ λˆ„κ΅°κ°€μ™€ ν•¨κ»˜ ν”Όμžλ₯Ό 먹으러 갈 λ•Œ,
04:36
what's the first thing you do?
103
276635
1524
μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 제일 λ¨Όμ € ν•˜λŠ” 일은 λ¬΄μ—‡μž…λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
04:38
You talk about it.
104
278183
1898
ν”Όμžμ— λŒ€ν•΄ λ§ν•˜λŠ” μΌμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:40
You talk about what you want.
105
280105
1507
μ–΄λ–€ 것을 μ›ν•˜λŠ”μ§€ λ§ν•˜κ³ ,
04:41
You talk about what you like.
106
281636
1469
μ–΄λ–€ 것을 μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ”μ§€ λ§ν•˜κ³ ,
04:43
You may even negotiate it.
107
283129
1532
심지어 ν˜‘μƒν•˜κΈ°λ„ ν•˜κ² μ£ 
04:44
"How do you feel about pepperoni?" (Laughter)
108
284685
2745
"νŒŒνŒŒλ‘œλ‹ˆ ν”Όμž μ–΄λ•Œ?" (μ›ƒμŒ)
04:47
"Not so much, I'm kind of a mushroom guy myself."
109
287454
2603
"λ³„λ‘œμ•Ό.. λ‚˜λŠ” 버섯이 μ’‹μ•„,"
04:50
"Well, maybe we can go half and half."
110
290081
2042
"음,, 그럼 반반으둜 ν• κΉŒ?"
04:52
And even if you've had pizza with somebody
111
292147
2000
그리고 λˆ„κ΅°κ°€μ™€ ν•¨κ»˜
04:54
for a very long time,
112
294171
3011
ν”Όμžλ₯Ό 맀우 μ˜€λžœλ™μ•ˆ λ¨Ήμ–΄μ™”λ‹€λ©΄
04:57
don't you still say things like,
113
297206
2038
이런 말을 ν•  λ•Œλ„ μžˆμ§€ μ•Šλ‚˜μš”?
04:59
"Should we get the usual?"
114
299268
1969
"ν•˜λ˜ λŒ€λ‘œ ν• κΉŒ?"
05:01
(Laughter)
115
301261
1139
(μ›ƒμŒ)
05:02
"Or maybe something a little more adventurous?"
116
302424
3733
"ν˜Ήμ‹œ 쑰금 더 λŒ€λ‹΄ν•œ 건 μ–΄λ•Œμš”?"
05:06
Okay, so when you're playing baseball,
117
306181
1810
λ„€, 즉 μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 야ꡬ κ²Œμž„μ„ ν•  λ•Œ
05:08
so if we talk about during sexual activity,
118
308015
2094
즉 성관계λ₯Ό λ§ΊλŠ” λ™μ•ˆ
05:10
when you're playing baseball,
119
310133
1381
μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€
05:11
you're just supposed to round the bases
120
311538
2504
λͺ¨λ“  루λ₯Ό 돌게 λ˜μ–΄ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:14
in the proper order one at a time.
121
314066
2456
μ ν•©ν•œ μˆœμ„œμ— 따라 ν•˜λ‚˜μ”©μ΄μš”.
05:16
You can't hit the ball and run to right field.
122
316546
2191
곡을 μΉ˜λŠ” λ™μ‹œμ— ν•„λ“œλ‘œ λ‹¬λ €κ°ˆ 수 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:18
That doesn't work.
123
318761
1198
κ·Έλ ‡κ²ŒλŠ” ν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν•΄μš”.
05:19
And you also can't get to second base and say,
124
319983
2294
λ˜ν•œ 2루에 κ°€μ„œ μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ 말할 수 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:22
"I like it here. I'm going to stay here."
125
322301
4376
"λ‚œ μ—¬κΈ°κ°€ μ’‹μ•„, 여기에 μžˆμ„λž˜!"
05:26
No.
126
326701
1397
μ•ˆλ˜κ² μ£ .
05:28
And also, of course, with baseball, there's, like,
127
328122
2381
야ꡬ κ²½κΈ°μ—λŠ” λ¬Όλ‘ 
05:30
the specific equipment and a specific skill set.
128
330527
2476
νŠΉμ •ν•œ 기ꡬ와 κΈ°μˆ λ“€μ΄ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
λͺ¨λ‘κ°€ 야ꡬ κ²½κΈ°λ₯Ό ν•  수 μžˆλŠ” 것은 μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ²½κΈ°λŠ” 맀우 λ°°νƒ€μ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:33
Not everybody can play baseball. It's pretty exclusive.
129
333027
3603
05:36
Okay, but what about pizza?
130
336654
1634
κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ ν”Όμž λͺ¨λΈμ€ μ–΄λ–¨κΉŒμš”?
05:38
When we're trying to figure out what's good for pizza,
131
338312
2572
ν”Όμžμ— μ–΄λ–€ 것이 쒋을지 λ…Όμ˜ν•  λ•Œ,
05:40
isn't it all about what's our pleasure?
132
340908
2661
λͺ¨λ“  것은 우리의 λ§Œμ‘±κ°μ— 쀑점을 두고 μžˆμ§€ μ•Šλ‚˜μš”?
05:43
There are a million different kinds of pizza.
133
343593
1708
ν”Όμžμ—λŠ” 100λ§Œκ°€μ§€ λ‹€λ₯Έ μ’…λ₯˜κ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:45
There's a million different toppings.
134
345325
1762
100λ§Œκ°€μ§€ 토핑이 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:47
There's a million different ways to eat pizza.
135
347111
2278
ν”Όμžλ₯Ό λ¨ΉλŠ” 방법에도 100λ§Œκ°€μ§€κ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:49
And none of them are wrong. They're different.
136
349413
2925
그리고 이 κ°€μš΄λ° ν‹€λ¦° λ°©λ²•μ΄λž€ μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 각 방법듀은 κ·Έμ € λ‹€λ₯Ό λΏμ΄μ—μš”.
05:52
And in this case, difference is good,
137
352362
2424
이런 경우, μ°¨μ΄λŠ” 쒋은 것이 λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:54
because that's going to increase the chance
138
354810
2048
μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ μ°¨μ΄λŠ”
05:56
that we're having a satisfying experience.
139
356882
2560
μš°λ¦¬κ°€ λ§Œμ‘±μ„ 얻을 기회λ₯Ό 늘렀주기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:59
And lastly, what's the expected outcome of baseball?
140
359466
2936
λ§ˆμ§€λ§‰μœΌλ‘œ, 야ꡬ κ²½κΈ°μ—μ„œ μ˜ˆμƒλ˜λŠ” κ²°κ³ΌλŠ” λ¬΄μ—‡μž…λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
06:02
Well, in baseball, you play to win.
141
362426
3674
μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ 야ꡬ κ²½κΈ°μ—μ„œ 이기기 μœ„ν•΄ κ²½κΈ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:06
You score as many runs as you can.
142
366124
2509
μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ ν•  수 μžˆλŠ” ν•œ 많이 λ›°μ–΄ 득점을 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:08
There's always a winner in baseball,
143
368657
1964
야ꡬ κ²½κΈ°μ—λŠ” 늘 μŠΉμžκ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:10
and that means there's always a loser in baseball.
144
370645
3397
λ‹€λ₯Έ λ§λ‘œλŠ” 늘 νŒ¨μžκ°€ μžˆλ‹€λŠ” 뜻이죠.
06:14
But what about pizza?
145
374066
1632
κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ ν”Όμž λͺ¨λΈμ€ μ–΄λ–€κ°€μš”?
06:15
Well, in pizza, we're not really --
146
375722
2187
ν”Όμž λͺ¨λΈμ—μ„œλŠ”
06:17
there's no winning. How do you win pizza?
147
377933
3643
μ΄κΈ°λŠ” 것이 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν”Όμžμ—μ„œ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ 이길 수 μžˆμ„κΉŒμš”?
06:21
You don't. But you do look for,
148
381600
3231
그럴 μˆ˜λŠ” μ—†μ£ . κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ μ°ΎλŠ” 것은 μ΄κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:24
"Are we satisfied?"
149
384855
1697
"μš°λ¦¬κ°€ λ§Œμ‘±μ„ λŠκΌˆλ‚˜?"
06:26
And sometimes that can be different amounts
150
386576
2048
μ΄λŠ” λ•Œλ•Œλ‘œ λ‹€λ₯Έ 양일 μˆ˜λ„,
06:28
over different times or with different people
151
388648
2143
λ‹€λ₯Έ λ•ŒμΌ μˆ˜λ„, ν˜Ήμ€ λ‹€λ₯Έ μ‚¬λžŒμΌ μˆ˜λ„,
06:30
or on different days.
152
390815
1893
ν˜Ήμ€ λ‹€λ₯Έ 날일 μˆ˜λ„ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:32
And we get to decide when we feel satisfied.
153
392732
3106
그리고 μš°λ¦¬λŠ” λ§Œμ‘±μ„ μ–Έμ œ 얻을지 κ²°μ •ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:35
If we're still hungry, we might have some more.
154
395862
2814
μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 계속 λ°°κ³ ν”„λ©΄, 더 먹으면 λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:38
If you eat too much, though,
155
398700
1514
λ°˜λŒ€λ‘œ λ„ˆλ¬΄ 많이 λ¨Ήμ—ˆλ‹€λ©΄,
06:40
you just feel gross.
156
400238
1881
역겨움을 λŠλ‚„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:42
(Laughter)
157
402143
2385
(μ›ƒμŒ)
06:44
So what if we could take this pizza model
158
404552
2662
κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 이 ν”Όμž λͺ¨λΈμ„
06:47
and overlay it on top of sexuality education?
159
407238
3348
μ„±κ΅μœ‘μ— λ§μ”Œμ›Œ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•˜λ©΄
06:50
A lot of sexuality education that happens today
160
410610
2515
μ˜€λŠ˜λ‚  λŒ€λΆ€λΆ„μ˜ μ„±κ΅μœ‘μ€
06:53
is so influenced by the baseball model,
161
413149
3402
야ꡬ κ²½κΈ° λͺ¨λΈμ˜ 영ν–₯을 많이 λ°›μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:56
and it sets up education that can't help
162
416575
3769
그리고 도움이 λ˜μ§€ μ•ŠλŠ” κ΅μœ‘μ„ λ§Œλ“­λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:00
but produce unhealthy sexuality in young people.
163
420368
3709
단지 μ–΄λ¦° ν•™μƒλ“€μ—κ²Œ κ±΄κ°•ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ€ 성관념을 λ§Œλ“€μ–΄μš”.
07:04
And those young people become older people.
164
424101
2239
κ·Έ 학생듀은 μ»€μ„œ λ‚˜μ΄λ§Žμ€ μ–΄λ₯Έμ΄ λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:06
But if we could create sexuality education
165
426364
3435
κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ„±κ΅μœ‘μ„
07:09
that was more like pizza,
166
429823
2325
ν”Όμž λͺ¨λΈ κ°€κΉŒμš΄ ν˜•νƒœλ‘œ λ§Œλ“ λ‹€λ©΄,
07:12
we could create education that invites people
167
432172
3424
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€λ‘œ ν•˜μ—¬κΈˆ
07:15
to think about their own desires,
168
435620
2271
κ·Έλ“€μ˜ μš•κ΅¬μ— λŒ€ν•΄ μƒκ°ν•˜κ³ 
07:17
to make deliberate decisions about what they want,
169
437915
3228
그듀이 μ›ν•˜λŠ” 것에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ‹ μ€‘ν•œ 결정을 내리고
07:21
to talk about it with their partners,
170
441167
2608
κ·Έλ“€μ˜ μƒλŒ€μ™€ 성에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•˜λ©°,
07:23
and to ultimately look for
171
443799
1649
λ˜ν•œ ꢁ극적으둜
07:25
not some external outcome
172
445472
3120
외뢀적인 κ²°κ³Όλ₯Ό μ°ΎλŠ” 것이 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
07:28
but for what feels satisfying,
173
448616
3133
λ§Œμ‘±μ„ 찾으렀 ν•  것이고
07:31
and we get to decide that.
174
451773
2495
또 μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 그것을 κ²°μ •ν•˜κ²Œ 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:34
You may have noticed
175
454292
737
λŠλΌμ…¨κ² μ§€λ§Œ,
07:35
in the baseball and pizza comparison,
176
455053
2855
야ꡬ와 ν”Όμžμ˜ λΉ„μœ λ₯Ό 비ꡐ해보면,
07:37
under the baseball, it's all commands.
177
457932
2816
야ꡬ λͺ¨λΈμ—μ„œλŠ” λͺ¨λ“  것이 λͺ…λ Ήμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:40
They're all exclamation points.
178
460772
2073
λͺ¨λ“  것은 λŠλ‚Œν‘œκ°€ λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:42
But under the pizza model, they're questions.
179
462869
3045
κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ ν”Όμž λͺ¨λΈμ—μ„œ, 그것듀은 질문이 λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:45
And who gets to answer those questions?
180
465938
1858
이 μ§ˆλ¬Έμ— λˆ„κ°€ λŒ€λ‹΅ν•˜κ²Œ λ κΉŒμš”?
07:47
You do. I do.
181
467820
3636
μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„λ“€μ΄ ν•˜κ³ , μ œκ°€ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:51
So remember, when we're thinking about
182
471480
1876
κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‹ˆκΉŒ 이걸 κΈ°μ–΅ν•˜μ„Έμš”.
07:53
sexuality education and sexual activity,
183
473380
2722
λˆ„κ΅°κ°€κ°€ μ„±κ΅μœ‘κ³Ό 성관계λ₯Ό
07:56
baseball, you're out.
184
476126
2166
μ•Όκ΅¬λ‘œ 생각할 λ•Œ, κ·Έ μ‚¬λžŒμ€ μ•„μ›ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:58
Pizza is the way to think about healthy,
185
478316
3208
ν”ΌμžλŠ” κ±΄κ°•ν•˜κ³ 
08:01
satisfying sexual activity,
186
481548
2416
만쑱슀러운 성관계,
08:03
and good, comprehensive sexuality education.
187
483988
2916
그리고 κ±΄κ°•ν•˜κ³  μ΄ν•΄ν•˜κΈ° μ‰¬μš΄ μ„±κ΅μœ‘μ„ λ– μ˜¬λ¦¬κ²Œ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:06
Thank you very much for your time.
188
486928
2206
κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€
08:09
(Applause)
189
489158
4662
(λ°•μˆ˜)
이 μ›Ήμ‚¬μ΄νŠΈ 정보

이 μ‚¬μ΄νŠΈλŠ” μ˜μ–΄ ν•™μŠ΅μ— μœ μš©ν•œ YouTube λ™μ˜μƒμ„ μ†Œκ°œν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ „ 세계 졜고의 μ„ μƒλ‹˜λ“€μ΄ κ°€λ₯΄μΉ˜λŠ” μ˜μ–΄ μˆ˜μ—…μ„ 보게 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 각 λ™μ˜μƒ νŽ˜μ΄μ§€μ— ν‘œμ‹œλ˜λŠ” μ˜μ–΄ μžλ§‰μ„ 더블 ν΄λ¦­ν•˜λ©΄ κ·Έκ³³μ—μ„œ λ™μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λΉ„λ””μ˜€ μž¬μƒμ— 맞좰 μžλ§‰μ΄ μŠ€ν¬λ‘€λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ˜κ²¬μ΄λ‚˜ μš”μ²­μ΄ μžˆλŠ” 경우 이 문의 양식을 μ‚¬μš©ν•˜μ—¬ λ¬Έμ˜ν•˜μ‹­μ‹œμ˜€.

https://forms.gle/WvT1wiN1qDtmnspy7