Gene editing can now change an entire species -- forever | Jennifer Kahn
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譯者: 易帆 余
審譯者: lin quan
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So this is a talk about gene drives,
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這次的演講是有關於
「基因驅動技術」,
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but I'm going to start
by telling you a brief story.
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但我要從一個小故事開始說起。
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20 years ago, a biologist
named Anthony James
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20年前,有一位叫安東尼.詹姆斯
的生物學家,
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got obsessed with the idea
of making mosquitos
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他迷上了一個
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that didn't transmit malaria.
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製造出不會傳染
瘧疾的蚊子的想法,
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It was a great idea,
and pretty much a complete failure.
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想法很棒,但幾乎差點失敗。
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For one thing, it turned out
to be really hard
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首先,要做出抗瘧疾的蚊子,
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to make a malaria-resistant mosquito.
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真的相當困難。
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James managed it, finally,
just a few years ago,
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但詹姆士在幾年前,
終於做到了,
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by adding some genes
that make it impossible
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他是藉由增加基因的方式,
00:44
for the malaria parasite
to survive inside the mosquito.
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讓瘧疾的寄生蟲無法在
蚊子身上生存。
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But that just created another problem.
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但這會衍生出另外一個問題。
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Now that you've got
a malaria-resistant mosquito,
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現在,你有一隻抗瘧疾的蚊子,
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how do you get it to replace
all the malaria-carrying mosquitos?
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但你要如何讓牠取代掉所有
有攜帶瘧疾病原的蚊子?
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There are a couple options,
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有幾個選項可以選,
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but plan A was basically to breed up
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A 計畫基本上就是,
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a bunch of the new
genetically-engineered mosquitos
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培育出一大堆新的
基因改造過的蚊子,
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release them into the wild
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然後放生牠們,
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and hope that they pass on their genes.
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並祈禱牠們的基因
可以被遺傳下去。
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The problem was that you'd have to release
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但問題是,你得釋放出
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literally 10 times the number
of native mosquitos to work.
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將近十倍當地蚊子的數量,
才會有效果。
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So in a village with 10,000 mosquitos,
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所以,一個有 1 萬隻蚊子的村落,
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you release an extra 100,000.
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你得釋放出 10 萬隻才能搞定。
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As you might guess,
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你應該猜的到,
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this was not a very popular strategy
with the villagers.
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對居民來說,這不是一個
很受歡迎的策略。
01:24
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:26
Then, last January,
Anthony James got an email
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之後,去年一月,
詹姆士收到一封
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from a biologist named Ethan Bier.
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來自一位叫做伊桑.畢爾
生物學家的 E-mail。
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Bier said that he
and his grad student Valentino Gantz
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畢爾說,他和他的一位名叫
范倫鐵諾.岡茲的研究生
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had stumbled on a tool
that could not only guarantee
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意外發現了一個工具,
它不僅可以保證
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that a particular genetic trait
would be inherited,
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特定的基因特徵
可以被遺傳到下一代,
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but that it would spread
incredibly quickly.
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還可以讓它快速地繁殖擴散。
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If they were right,
it would basically solve the problem
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如果他們是對的,
基本上就可以解決掉
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that he and James had been
working on for 20 years.
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他和詹姆上這 20 年來
一直想要解決的問題。
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As a test, they engineered two mosquitos
to carry the anti-malaria gene
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在實測中,他們做出了兩隻
帶有抗瘧疾基因的蚊子,
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and also this new tool, a gene drive,
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以及這項新工具,
「基因驅動技術」,
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which I'll explain in a minute.
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我晚點會在做解釋。
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Finally, they set it up
so that any mosquitos
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最後,他們設置出了一種機制,
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that had inherited the anti-malaria gene
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他們讓帶有抗瘧疾
基因的蚊子
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wouldn't have the usual white eyes,
but would instead have red eyes.
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不再有正常的白色眼睛,
取而代之的是紅色的眼睛。
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That was pretty much just for convenience
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這是一個相當方便的辨認方式,
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so they could tell just at a glance
which was which.
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因為他們只要看一眼,
就能分辨出蚊子的種類。
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So they took their two
anti-malarial, red-eyed mosquitos
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所以,他們把兩隻
抗瘧疾、紅眼的蚊子,
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and put them in a box
with 30 ordinary white-eyed ones,
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放進一個裝有30隻
正常白眼蚊子的箱子中,
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and let them breed.
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然後讓牠們繁殖。
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In two generations, those had produced
3,800 grandchildren.
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在經過兩個世代後,這些蚊子
繁殖出 3800 隻的後代。
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That is not the surprising part.
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這一段不最驚人的部分。
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This is the surprising part:
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接下來這一段才是:
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given that you started
with just two red-eyed mosquitos
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假定,你從只有兩隻紅眼蚊子
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and 30 white-eyed ones,
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加上30隻白眼蚊子開始繁殖,
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you expect mostly white-eyed descendants.
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你會以為牠們的後代
應該都是白眼的,
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Instead, when James opened the box,
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但在詹姆士打開箱子後,
他發現,
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all 3,800 mosquitos had red eyes.
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全部的 3800 隻蚊子都是紅眼的。
02:45
When I asked Ethan Bier about this moment,
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當我問伊桑.畢爾這件事時,
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he became so excited that he was literally
shouting into the phone.
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他在電話那頭簡直興奮地不得了。
02:51
That's because getting
only red-eyed mosquitos
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那是因為,你如果
只剩下紅眼蚊子
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violates a rule that is the absolute
cornerstone of biology,
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那就是違反了
生物學的基礎法則,
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Mendelian genetics.
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孟德爾的遺傳定律。
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I'll keep this quick,
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我簡單說明一下,
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but Mendelian genetics
says when a male and a female mate,
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孟德爾的遺傳定律說明,
當一公一母交配時,
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their baby inherits half
of its DNA from each parent.
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他們的後代會遺傳到
來自上一代各半的 DNA。
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So if our original mosquito was aa
and our new mosquito is aB,
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所以如果原生種蚊子是 aa,
新的蚊子是 aB,
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where B is the anti-malarial gene,
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B 代表抗瘧疾的基因,
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the babies should come out
in four permutations:
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那他們的後代,
會有四種排列組合:
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aa, aB, aa, Ba.
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aa, aB, aa, Ba。
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Instead, with the new gene drive,
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但,如果你使用了
新的基因驅動技術,
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they all came out aB.
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他們會全部變成aB。
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Biologically, that shouldn't
even be possible.
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在生物學上,根本
不會有這種情況發生。
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So what happened?
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但發生了甚麼事?
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The first thing that happened
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第一件發生的事情就是
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was the arrival of a gene-editing tool
known as CRISPR in 2012.
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2012 年基因編輯技術
CRISPER 的誕生。
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Many of you have probably
heard about CRISPR,
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你們當中很多人可能都
聽過 CRISPER 這項技術了 ,
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so I'll just say briefly that CRISPR
is a tool that allows researchers
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所以我簡單說明一下,
CRISPER 是一種工具,
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to edit genes very precisely,
easily and quickly.
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它可以讓研究人員以非常精準、
簡單、快速的方式來編輯 DNA 。
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It does this by harnessing a mechanism
that already existed in bacteria.
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它是藉由控制一個現存在
細菌裡面的一個機制。
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Basically, there's a protein
that acts like a scissors
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基本上,會有一個像
剪刀一樣功能的蛋白質,
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and cuts the DNA,
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它會切斷 DNA,
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and there's an RNA molecule
that directs the scissors
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然後會有一個
RNA 分子導引剪刀
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to any point on the genome you want.
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往你希望它剪掉的地方去。
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The result is basically
a word processor for genes.
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它所形成的結果,基本上
就是一個基因造字的過程。
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You can take an entire gene
out, put one in,
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你可以抽出整段基因,
然後換另一段進去,
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or even edit just a single
letter within a gene.
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甚至僅是編輯
基因裡的其中一個字母。
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And you can do it in nearly any species.
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而且你可以在任何
物種上做這件事。
04:05
OK, remember how I said that gene drives
originally had two problems?
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好的,還記得我剛提的,
基因驅動技術原本的兩個問題嗎?
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The first was that it was hard
to engineer a mosquito
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第一個就是,要做出一隻
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to be malaria-resistant.
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有抗瘧疾的蚊子是相當困難的。
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That's basically gone now,
thanks to CRISPR.
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而現在有了 CRISPR ,
這一難題迎刃而解。
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But the other problem was logistical.
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但另一個是後續支援的問題。
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How do you get your trait to spread?
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你要如何把你的
生物特性散播出去?
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This is where it gets clever.
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這裡有一個聰明的方法。
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A couple years ago, a biologist
at Harvard named Kevin Esvelt
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幾年前,哈佛大學的一位生物學家,
凱文.伊斯維特
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wondered what would happen
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他想如果 CRISPER
不僅只有插入新基因的功能,
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if you made it so that
CRISPR inserted not only your new gene
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如果也含有剪下,貼上
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but also the machinery
that does the cutting and pasting.
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的功能,那會怎樣?
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In other words, what if CRISPR
also copied and pasted itself.
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換句話說,要是 CRISPER
本身也有複製及貼上的功能。
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You'd end up with a perpetual
motion machine for gene editing.
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那你就會得到一個
永續性的基因編輯機制。
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And that's exactly what happened.
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而事情就真的發生了。
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This CRISPR gene drive that Esvelt created
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伊斯維特創造的
CRISPER 基因驅動技術,
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not only guarantees
that a trait will get passed on,
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不僅可以保證基因特徵可以被遺傳,
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but if it's used in the germline cells,
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也可以保證能用在生殖細胞上,
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it will automatically copy and paste
your new gene
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它會自動地複製、
貼上你的新基因
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into both chromosomes
of every single individual.
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到每個個體的染色體上。
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It's like a global search and replace,
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它就像是全球檢索
並取代的功能。
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or in science terms, it makes
a heterozygous trait homozygous.
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或者以科學的術語來說,它造成了
一個「雜合子特徵純合化」現象
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So, what does this mean?
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所以,這意味著什麼?
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For one thing, it means we have
a very powerful,
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首先,意味著,
我們有了一個非常強大
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but also somewhat alarming new tool.
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但也有點令人害怕的新工具。
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Up until now, the fact that gene drives
didn't work very well
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到目前為止,基因驅動技術
運作地還不是很順暢的事實
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was actually kind of a relief.
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的確還算有點令人欣慰。
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Normally when we mess around
with an organism's genes,
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按理說,當我們搞亂掉
一個生物的基因,
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we make that thing
less evolutionarily fit.
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我們只要降低這個東西的
進化適應力即可。
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So biologists can make
all the mutant fruit flies they want
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所以,生物學家們
可以無後顧之憂地
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without worrying about it.
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製造出任何他們想要的
果蠅突變體。
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If some escape, natural selection
just takes care of them.
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如果有一些逃走了,大自然選擇
(物競天擇)就可以處理這件事。
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What's remarkable and powerful
and frightening about gene drives
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但基因驅動技術最顯著有力、
令人害怕的地方就是
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is that that will no longer be true.
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這樣的狀況
可能將永遠不存在。
05:45
Assuming that your trait does not have
a big evolutionary handicap,
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假設你的遺傳特徵如果沒有一個
很大的演化肢障產生,
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like a mosquito that can't fly,
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好比蚊子沒有辦法飛,
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the CRISPR-based gene drive
will spread the change relentlessly
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以 CRISPER 為基礎的基因驅動,
將把這個改變給持續散播出去,
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until it is in every single individual
in the population.
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直到它深入到族群中
的每個個體身上。
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Now, it isn't easy to make
a gene drive that works that well,
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現在,要讓基因驅動技術
量好運行,並非易事,
06:02
but James and Esvelt think that we can.
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但詹姆士及伊斯維特
認為我們做的到。
06:05
The good news is that this opens
the door to some remarkable things.
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好消息是,這項技術為一些
不可思議的事情打開了一扇門。
06:09
If you put an anti-malarial gene drive
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你只要在 1% 的
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in just 1 percent of Anopheles mosquitoes,
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攜帶瘧疾的蚊子身上使用
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the species that transmits malaria,
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抗瘧疾基因驅動技術,
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researchers estimate that it would spread
to the entire population in a year.
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研究人員預估,一年內這一基因
就可以散播到整個種群中。
06:20
So in a year, you could virtually
eliminate malaria.
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所以,只要一年的時間,
你就可以完全消滅掉瘧疾。
06:23
In practice, we're still a few years out
from being able to do that,
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實際上,
我們仍需好幾年才能做到,
06:27
but still, a 1,000 children
a day die of malaria.
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但每天仍然有 1000 名
兒童死於瘧疾。
06:30
In a year, that number
could be almost zero.
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只要一年的時間,就幾乎
可以把數字降到零。
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The same goes for dengue fever,
chikungunya, yellow fever.
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同樣的,它還可以運用在登革熱、
基孔肯雅熱,黃熱病上。
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And it gets better.
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更好的是,
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Say you want to get rid
of an invasive species,
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假設你想根除掉一個
外來入侵的物種,
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like get Asian carp
out of the Great Lakes.
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像是把亞洲鯉魚趕出五大湖。
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All you have to do is release a gene drive
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你所要做的就是,釋放一種
06:46
that makes the fish produce
only male offspring.
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只能繁衍出雄性後代
的基因驅動,
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In a few generations,
there'll be no females left, no more carp.
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幾代之後,没有了雌性鯉魚,
該物種就隨之消失了。
06:53
In theory, this means we could restore
hundreds of native species
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理論上,這意味著,
我們可以透過這種方式,
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that have been pushed to the brink.
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復育上百種瀕臨絕種的生物。
06:59
OK, that's the good news,
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好的,這是好消息的部分,
07:02
this is the bad news.
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接下來,是壞消息的部分。
07:05
Gene drives are so effective
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基因驅動技術因為很有效率,
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that even an accidental release
could change an entire species,
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以至於不經意釋放的樣本,
通常都可能在短時間內
07:10
and often very quickly.
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引起整個種群的巨大改變。
07:13
Anthony James took good precautions.
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詹姆士做了很好的預防措施。
07:15
He bred his mosquitos
in a bio-containment lab
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他都是在生物控制實驗室裡
培養他的蚊子,
07:17
and he also used a species
that's not native to the US
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而且他用的都是
非美國本土的物種,
07:20
so that even if some did escape,
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所以,即使有一些跑走了,
07:21
they'd just die off, there'd be nothing
for them to mate with.
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也會因為沒有辦法交配而死。
07:24
But it's also true that if a dozen
Asian carp with the all-male gene drive
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但另一個事實就是,如果有一些帶有
全雄性基因驅動的亞洲鯉魚,
07:28
accidentally got carried
from the Great Lakes back to Asia,
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不小心從五大湖被帶回到亞洲,
07:32
they could potentially wipe out
the native Asian carp population.
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牠們也很有可能會毀滅掉
整個當地的亞洲鯉魚物種。
07:37
And that's not so unlikely,
given how connected our world is.
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現在世界聯繫的緊密程度
這是很有可能會發生的。
07:40
In fact, it's why we have
an invasive species problem.
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事實上,這也是為什麼我們
有外來物種入侵的問題。
07:43
And that's fish.
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這是魚類的情況。
07:45
Things like mosquitos and fruit flies,
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對蚊子和果蠅這一類
會飛的物種而言,
07:48
there's literally no way to contain them.
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基本上是沒有辦法限制牠們的。
07:50
They cross borders
and oceans all the time.
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牠們可以隨時
穿越國界或飄揚過海。
07:53
OK, the other piece of bad news
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好的,還有另外一個壞消息,
07:55
is that a gene drive
might not stay confined
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就是,基因驅動的表現
不一定只被限制在
07:58
to what we call the target species.
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我們所謂的標靶物種上。
08:00
That's because of gene flow,
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那是因為有基因轉移(流動)
08:02
which is a fancy way of saying
that neighboring species
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基因轉移就是,
相鄰的物種之間
08:04
sometimes interbreed.
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偶爾彼此會有雜交的情形。
08:05
If that happens, it's possible
a gene drive could cross over,
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如果發生了雜交,基因驅動
就很有可能會穿過物種的限制,
08:09
like Asian carp could infect
some other kind of carp.
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比如亞洲鯉魚可能會
影響其它種類的鯉魚。
08:11
That's not so bad if your drive
just promotes a trait, like eye color.
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如果你的驅動只是改變眼睛的顏色,
可能還不會那麼糟糕。
08:15
In fact, there's a decent
chance that we'll see
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事實上,不久的未來很有可能
08:17
a wave of very weird fruit flies
in the near future.
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有非常大量奇怪的
果蠅被培養出來。
08:21
But it could be a disaster
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但如果你的驅動裝置是惡意地
08:22
if your drive is deigned
to eliminate the species entirely.
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被用來消滅一個物種的話,
這也有可能會導致災難。
08:26
The last worrisome thing
is that the technology to do this,
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最後一件令人擔心的事,就是,
08:29
to genetically engineer an organism
and include a gene drive,
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對有機體做基因工程包括基因驅動,
這一技術,
08:33
is something that basically any lab
in the world can do.
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基本上世界上
任何一個實驗室都能做。
08:36
An undergraduate can do it.
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一個大學本科生就可以做。
08:39
A talented high schooler
with some equipment can do it.
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一個天資聰穎的高中生,
給他一些儀器,他也會做。
08:44
Now, I'm guessing
that this sounds terrifying.
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我猜,你們一定覺得,
這聽起相當恐怖。
08:47
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:49
Interestingly though,
nearly every scientist I talk to
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有趣的是,因乎每一個
和我討論的科學家都認為,
08:52
seemed to think that gene drives were not
actually that frightening or dangerous.
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基因驅動技術沒有想像中
那麼的恐怖或危險,
08:56
Partly because they believe
that scientists will be
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有部分原因是,
他們相信科學家們
08:59
very cautious and responsible
about using them.
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會非常小心並
負責任地使用這些工具。
09:01
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
09:02
So far, that's been true.
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目前為止,也確實是如此。
09:04
But gene drives also have
some actual limitations.
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不過基因驅動技術
也有一些實質上的限制。
09:07
So for one thing, they work
only in sexually reproducing species.
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首先,它只能應用於
有性生殖的物種。
09:10
So thank goodness, they can't be used
to engineer viruses or bacteria.
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所以感謝上帝,它們不能
用在細菌和病毒的培育上。
09:14
Also, the trait spreads
only with each successive generation.
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其次,遺傳特徵只有在
成功的後代繁衍下才能傳播。
09:17
So changing or eliminating a population
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所以只有在繁殖周期很短的物種中
09:19
is practical only if that species
has a fast reproductive cycle,
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改變或者滅絕該物種才有可能發生。
09:22
like insects or maybe
small vertebrates like mice or fish.
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比如昆蟲或者類似於鼠類
或者魚類的小型脊椎動物。
09:26
In elephants or people,
it would take centuries
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大象或者人類可能需要幾百年,
09:28
for a trait to spread
widely enough to matter.
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才能把遺傳特徵散播地夠廣。
09:32
Also, even with CRISPR, it's not that easy
to engineer a truly devastating trait.
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而且,就算有 CRISPR ,
也無法輕易做出真正毀滅性的遺傳特徵。
09:38
Say you wanted to make a fruit fly
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比如說,你想製造一種
09:39
that feeds on ordinary fruit
instead of rotting fruit,
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以普通水果而不是以
腐爛水果為食的果蠅,
09:42
with the aim of sabotaging
American agriculture.
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藉此來摧毀美國的農業。
09:45
First, you'd have to figure out
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首先,你得搞清楚,
09:46
which genes control
what the fly wants to eat,
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哪些基因控制了
果蠅的食慾,
09:49
which is already a very long
and complicated project.
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這已經算是很長
很複雜的專案了。
09:52
Then you'd have to alter those genes
to change the fly's behavior
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接下來你要根據你的想法,
透過更換基因
09:55
to whatever you'd want it to be,
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來改變果蠅的習性,
09:57
which is an even longer
and more complicated project.
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這將是更長更複雜的專案。
10:00
And it might not even work,
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甚至會以失敗告終,
10:01
because the genes
that control behavior are complex.
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因為基因對於行為的
控制是非常複雜的。
10:04
So if you're a terrorist
and have to choose
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所以,如果你是一個恐怖分子,
10:06
between starting a grueling
basic research program
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你會選擇一個需要
耗時多年、細心做實驗
10:08
that will require years of meticulous
lab work and still might not pan out,
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甚至可能會失敗的研究計畫,
10:12
or just blowing stuff up?
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還是直接放炸彈?
10:13
You'll probably choose the later.
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你大概會選擇後者。
10:15
This is especially true
because at least in theory,
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這真的是實話,因為至少在理論上,
10:17
it should be pretty easy
to build what's called a reversal drive.
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要製造一個叫做「逆轉驅動」
的東西也相當容易。
10:21
That's one that basically overwrites
the change made by the first gene drive.
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它基本上就可以覆蓋掉
第一個基因驅動所造成的改變。
10:24
So if you don't like
the effects of a change,
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所以,如果你不喜歡改變後的結果,
10:27
you can just release a second drive
that will cancel it out,
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你只要再釋放第二個驅動
就可以把它消滅掉了,
10:29
at least in theory.
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至少理論上是這樣的。
10:33
OK, so where does this leave us?
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好的,這告訴了我們甚麼?
10:36
We now have the ability
to change entire species at will.
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我們現在已經有能力,
能隨意改變整個物種。
10:41
Should we?
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我們應該這樣做嗎?
10:42
Are we gods now?
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我們現在是上帝了嗎?
10:45
I'm not sure I'd say that.
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我不太確定
我能否這樣說。
10:48
But I would say this:
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但我想說的是:
10:50
first, some very smart people
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首先,有很多頂尖聰明的人,
10:52
are even now debating
how to regulate gene drives.
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現在已經開始討論如何監管
基因驅動技術。
10:55
At the same time,
some other very smart people
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同時,另一批頂尖聰明的人,
10:58
are working hard to create safeguards,
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也已經開始努力地制定
安全保護措施,
11:00
like gene drives that self-regulate
or peter out after a few generations.
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比如,讓基因自我規範
或幾代之後逐漸消失。
11:04
That's great.
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太棒了。
11:06
But this technology still requires
a conversation.
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但這項技術仍需要展開一次對話。
11:10
And given the nature of gene drives,
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而且鑒於基因驅動技術的本質,
11:11
that conversation has to be global.
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對話必須是全球性的。
11:14
What if Kenya wants to use a drive
but Tanzania doesn't?
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要是肯亞想使用一個驅動,
但坦薩尼亞不要呢?
11:17
Who decides whether to release
a gene drive that can fly?
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誰可以決定是否要釋放一個
會飛的基因驅動呢?
11:22
I don't have the answer to that question.
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我目前仍沒有答案。
11:25
All we can do going forward, I think,
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接下來我們能做的,
我認為,
11:27
is talk honestly
about the risks and benefits
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就是針對這項技術的利弊,
大家坦誠對話,
11:30
and take responsibility for our choices.
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並對我們的選擇負責。
11:33
By that I mean, not just the choice
to use a gene drive,
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但我的意思是,不僅要對
選擇使用基因驅動負責,
11:37
but also the choice not to use one.
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也要對不使用它的後果負責。
11:41
Humans have a tendency to assume
that the safest option
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人類傾向於認為,
11:44
is to preserve the status quo.
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維持現狀就是最安全的選項。
11:46
But that's not always the case.
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但事實往往不一定如此。
11:49
Gene drives have risks,
and those need to be discussed,
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基因驅動確實有風險,
也需要被討論,
11:53
but malaria exists now
and kills 1,000 people a day.
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但現存的瘧疾,
每天在持續奪走 1000 條人命。
11:56
To combat it, we spray pesticides
that do grave damage to other species,
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為了對抗它,我們噴灑的農藥
也會對其它物種造成嚴重的傷害,
12:00
including amphibians and birds.
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包括兩棲類及鳥類。
12:03
So when you hear about gene drives
in the coming months,
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所以,當各位幾個月後
聽到基因驅動,
12:06
and trust me, you will
be hearing about them,
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相信我,你將會聽到這些事,
12:08
remember that.
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請記住,
12:10
It can be frightening to act,
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採取行動或許令人恐懼,
12:12
but sometimes, not acting is worse.
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但有時候,無動於衷會更糟糕。
12:16
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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