Gene editing can now change an entire species -- forever | Jennifer Kahn

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So this is a talk about gene drives,
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but I'm going to start by telling you a brief story.
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20 years ago, a biologist named Anthony James
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got obsessed with the idea of making mosquitos
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that didn't transmit malaria.
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It was a great idea, and pretty much a complete failure.
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For one thing, it turned out to be really hard
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to make a malaria-resistant mosquito.
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James managed it, finally, just a few years ago,
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by adding some genes that make it impossible
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for the malaria parasite to survive inside the mosquito.
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But that just created another problem.
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Now that you've got a malaria-resistant mosquito,
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how do you get it to replace all the malaria-carrying mosquitos?
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There are a couple options,
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but plan A was basically to breed up
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a bunch of the new genetically-engineered mosquitos
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release them into the wild
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and hope that they pass on their genes.
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The problem was that you'd have to release
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literally 10 times the number of native mosquitos to work.
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So in a village with 10,000 mosquitos,
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you release an extra 100,000.
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As you might guess,
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this was not a very popular strategy with the villagers.
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(Laughter)
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Then, last January, Anthony James got an email
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from a biologist named Ethan Bier.
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Bier said that he and his grad student Valentino Gantz
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had stumbled on a tool that could not only guarantee
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that a particular genetic trait would be inherited,
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but that it would spread incredibly quickly.
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If they were right, it would basically solve the problem
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that he and James had been working on for 20 years.
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As a test, they engineered two mosquitos to carry the anti-malaria gene
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and also this new tool, a gene drive,
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which I'll explain in a minute.
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Finally, they set it up so that any mosquitos
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that had inherited the anti-malaria gene
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wouldn't have the usual white eyes, but would instead have red eyes.
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That was pretty much just for convenience
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so they could tell just at a glance which was which.
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So they took their two anti-malarial, red-eyed mosquitos
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and put them in a box with 30 ordinary white-eyed ones,
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and let them breed.
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In two generations, those had produced 3,800 grandchildren.
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That is not the surprising part.
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This is the surprising part:
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given that you started with just two red-eyed mosquitos
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and 30 white-eyed ones,
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you expect mostly white-eyed descendants.
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Instead, when James opened the box,
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all 3,800 mosquitos had red eyes.
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When I asked Ethan Bier about this moment,
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he became so excited that he was literally shouting into the phone.
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That's because getting only red-eyed mosquitos
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violates a rule that is the absolute cornerstone of biology,
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Mendelian genetics.
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I'll keep this quick,
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but Mendelian genetics says when a male and a female mate,
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their baby inherits half of its DNA from each parent.
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So if our original mosquito was aa and our new mosquito is aB,
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where B is the anti-malarial gene,
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the babies should come out in four permutations:
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aa, aB, aa, Ba.
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Instead, with the new gene drive,
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they all came out aB.
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Biologically, that shouldn't even be possible.
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So what happened?
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The first thing that happened
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was the arrival of a gene-editing tool known as CRISPR in 2012.
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Many of you have probably heard about CRISPR,
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so I'll just say briefly that CRISPR is a tool that allows researchers
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to edit genes very precisely, easily and quickly.
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It does this by harnessing a mechanism that already existed in bacteria.
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Basically, there's a protein that acts like a scissors
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and cuts the DNA,
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and there's an RNA molecule that directs the scissors
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to any point on the genome you want.
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The result is basically a word processor for genes.
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You can take an entire gene out, put one in,
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or even edit just a single letter within a gene.
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And you can do it in nearly any species.
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OK, remember how I said that gene drives originally had two problems?
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The first was that it was hard to engineer a mosquito
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to be malaria-resistant.
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That's basically gone now, thanks to CRISPR.
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But the other problem was logistical.
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How do you get your trait to spread?
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This is where it gets clever.
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A couple years ago, a biologist at Harvard named Kevin Esvelt
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wondered what would happen
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if you made it so that CRISPR inserted not only your new gene
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but also the machinery that does the cutting and pasting.
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In other words, what if CRISPR also copied and pasted itself.
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You'd end up with a perpetual motion machine for gene editing.
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And that's exactly what happened.
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This CRISPR gene drive that Esvelt created
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not only guarantees that a trait will get passed on,
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but if it's used in the germline cells,
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it will automatically copy and paste your new gene
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into both chromosomes of every single individual.
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It's like a global search and replace,
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or in science terms, it makes a heterozygous trait homozygous.
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So, what does this mean?
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For one thing, it means we have a very powerful,
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but also somewhat alarming new tool.
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Up until now, the fact that gene drives didn't work very well
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was actually kind of a relief.
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Normally when we mess around with an organism's genes,
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we make that thing less evolutionarily fit.
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So biologists can make all the mutant fruit flies they want
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without worrying about it.
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If some escape, natural selection just takes care of them.
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What's remarkable and powerful and frightening about gene drives
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is that that will no longer be true.
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Assuming that your trait does not have a big evolutionary handicap,
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like a mosquito that can't fly,
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the CRISPR-based gene drive will spread the change relentlessly
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until it is in every single individual in the population.
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Now, it isn't easy to make a gene drive that works that well,
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but James and Esvelt think that we can.
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The good news is that this opens the door to some remarkable things.
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If you put an anti-malarial gene drive
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in just 1 percent of Anopheles mosquitoes,
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the species that transmits malaria,
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researchers estimate that it would spread to the entire population in a year.
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So in a year, you could virtually eliminate malaria.
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In practice, we're still a few years out from being able to do that,
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but still, a 1,000 children a day die of malaria.
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In a year, that number could be almost zero.
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The same goes for dengue fever, chikungunya, yellow fever.
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And it gets better.
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Say you want to get rid of an invasive species,
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like get Asian carp out of the Great Lakes.
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All you have to do is release a gene drive
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that makes the fish produce only male offspring.
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In a few generations, there'll be no females left, no more carp.
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In theory, this means we could restore hundreds of native species
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that have been pushed to the brink.
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OK, that's the good news,
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this is the bad news.
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Gene drives are so effective
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that even an accidental release could change an entire species,
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and often very quickly.
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Anthony James took good precautions.
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He bred his mosquitos in a bio-containment lab
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and he also used a species that's not native to the US
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so that even if some did escape,
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they'd just die off, there'd be nothing for them to mate with.
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But it's also true that if a dozen Asian carp with the all-male gene drive
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accidentally got carried from the Great Lakes back to Asia,
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they could potentially wipe out the native Asian carp population.
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And that's not so unlikely, given how connected our world is.
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In fact, it's why we have an invasive species problem.
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And that's fish.
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Things like mosquitos and fruit flies,
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there's literally no way to contain them.
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They cross borders and oceans all the time.
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OK, the other piece of bad news
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is that a gene drive might not stay confined
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to what we call the target species.
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That's because of gene flow,
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which is a fancy way of saying that neighboring species
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sometimes interbreed.
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If that happens, it's possible a gene drive could cross over,
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like Asian carp could infect some other kind of carp.
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That's not so bad if your drive just promotes a trait, like eye color.
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In fact, there's a decent chance that we'll see
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a wave of very weird fruit flies in the near future.
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But it could be a disaster
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if your drive is deigned to eliminate the species entirely.
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The last worrisome thing is that the technology to do this,
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to genetically engineer an organism and include a gene drive,
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is something that basically any lab in the world can do.
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An undergraduate can do it.
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A talented high schooler with some equipment can do it.
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Now, I'm guessing that this sounds terrifying.
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(Laughter)
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Interestingly though, nearly every scientist I talk to
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seemed to think that gene drives were not actually that frightening or dangerous.
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Partly because they believe that scientists will be
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very cautious and responsible about using them.
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(Laughter)
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So far, that's been true.
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But gene drives also have some actual limitations.
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So for one thing, they work only in sexually reproducing species.
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So thank goodness, they can't be used to engineer viruses or bacteria.
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Also, the trait spreads only with each successive generation.
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So changing or eliminating a population
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is practical only if that species has a fast reproductive cycle,
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like insects or maybe small vertebrates like mice or fish.
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In elephants or people, it would take centuries
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for a trait to spread widely enough to matter.
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Also, even with CRISPR, it's not that easy to engineer a truly devastating trait.
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Say you wanted to make a fruit fly
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that feeds on ordinary fruit instead of rotting fruit,
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with the aim of sabotaging American agriculture.
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First, you'd have to figure out
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which genes control what the fly wants to eat,
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which is already a very long and complicated project.
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Then you'd have to alter those genes to change the fly's behavior
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to whatever you'd want it to be,
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which is an even longer and more complicated project.
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And it might not even work,
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because the genes that control behavior are complex.
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So if you're a terrorist and have to choose
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between starting a grueling basic research program
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that will require years of meticulous lab work and still might not pan out,
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or just blowing stuff up?
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You'll probably choose the later.
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This is especially true because at least in theory,
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it should be pretty easy to build what's called a reversal drive.
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That's one that basically overwrites the change made by the first gene drive.
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So if you don't like the effects of a change,
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you can just release a second drive that will cancel it out,
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at least in theory.
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OK, so where does this leave us?
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We now have the ability to change entire species at will.
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Should we?
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Are we gods now?
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I'm not sure I'd say that.
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But I would say this:
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first, some very smart people
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are even now debating how to regulate gene drives.
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At the same time, some other very smart people
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are working hard to create safeguards,
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like gene drives that self-regulate or peter out after a few generations.
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That's great.
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But this technology still requires a conversation.
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And given the nature of gene drives,
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that conversation has to be global.
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What if Kenya wants to use a drive but Tanzania doesn't?
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Who decides whether to release a gene drive that can fly?
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I don't have the answer to that question.
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All we can do going forward, I think,
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is talk honestly about the risks and benefits
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and take responsibility for our choices.
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By that I mean, not just the choice to use a gene drive,
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but also the choice not to use one.
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Humans have a tendency to assume that the safest option
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is to preserve the status quo.
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But that's not always the case.
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Gene drives have risks, and those need to be discussed,
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but malaria exists now and kills 1,000 people a day.
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To combat it, we spray pesticides that do grave damage to other species,
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including amphibians and birds.
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So when you hear about gene drives in the coming months,
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and trust me, you will be hearing about them,
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remember that.
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It can be frightening to act,
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but sometimes, not acting is worse.
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(Applause)
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