Fly with the Jetman | Yves Rossy

翻译人员: Yingzhi Vera Gu 校对人员: Chunxiang Qian

(Music)

音乐

[music by Moby]

字幕： 飞人- 伊夫斯 罗西

大峡谷

[Grand Canyon]

Narrator: Many of the tests are conducted

（图像）解说：在伊夫斯带上飞行翼的时候，

while Yves is strapped onto the wing,

要做很多检测，

because Yves' body is an integral part of the aircraft.

因为伊夫斯的身体是飞行器的一个部分。

[Wind tunnel tests]

字幕：风洞检测

Narrator: The wing has no steering controls, no flaps, no rudder.

解说：翅膀没有方向控制器，

没有折翼，没有方向舵。

Yves uses his body to steer the wing.

伊夫斯用身体操控翅膀。

Stefan Von Bergen: Well, he turns

斯蒂芬 凡 卑尔根： 噢， 他就是靠

by just putting his head on one or the other side.

把头转向一边或另一边来转向。

And sometimes he assists that with his hands,

有时他用手帮忙转向

sometimes even with the leg.

有时甚至靠腿帮忙。

He's acting as a human fuselage, so to say.

可以说他就是一个人体飞机。

这就是特别之处。

And that's quite unique.

解说：他弓背的时候，

Narrator: When he arches his back, he gains altitude.

就往上升。

而当他向前伸展肩膀

When he pushes his shoulders forward, he goes into a dive.

就往下滑。

[Swiss Alps]

字幕：阿尔卑斯山

[Strait of Gibraltar crossing]

穿越直布罗陀海峡。

[English Channel crossing]

穿越英吉利海峡

Commentator One: There he goes.

评论：他来了

There is Yves Rossy.

伊夫斯 罗西来了！

And I think the wing is open.

我想翅膀开了，翅膀开了

So our first critical moment, it's open.

这是第一个关键时刻，它开了。

他下降了，他在飞吗？

He is down. Is he flying?

第二位评论： 看来他在保持速度

Commentator Two: It looks like he's stabilized.

他又开始上升。

He's starting to make his climb.

Commentator One: There's that 90 degree turn.

评论：他转身90度，就是你讲的那个。

他已经到峡谷了。

He's out over the channel.

罗西来了。

There is Yves Rossy.

There is no turning back now.

现在已不能回头。

He is over the English Channel and under way.

他穿过英吉利海峡和海底通道

Ladies and gentlemen,

女士们，先生们，

a historic flight has begun.

历史性的飞行时刻开始了

[Images: National Geographic]

Commentator Two: And as he approaches the ground,

第二位评论员：他在往地面降落时

he's going to pull down on those toggles to flare,

会把那些栓扣拉下滑行。

放慢速度

slow himself down just a little bit,

and then come in for a nice landing.

然后漂亮的降落。

评论：是他

Commentator One: There he is.

Yves Rossy has landed in England.

罗西在英格兰降落了。

Bruno Giussani: And now he's in Edinburgh. Yves Rossy!

布鲁诺 吉桑尼： 他现在在爱丁堡。 伊夫斯 罗西。

（掌声）

(Applause)

(Applause ends)

他把器材也拿来了。

And his equipment as well.

Yves, welcome. It is quite amazing.

伊夫斯，欢迎。真棒。

Those sequences were shot over the last three years

那些画面是三年前

在你各种飞行活动中拍摄的

in various moments of your activities.

还有许多许多其它的时刻。

And there were many, many others.

So it's possible to fly almost like a bird.

所以像鸟那样飞行还是可能的。

What is it like to be up there?

在空中是什么感觉呢？

Yves Rossy: It's fun. It's fun.

罗西: 很好玩。很好玩。

(Laughter)

（笑声）

I don't have feathers.

我没有羽毛

But I feel like a bird sometimes.

但我有时觉得自己像一只鸟。

是一种不真实的感觉

It's really an unreal feeling,

because normally you have a big thing,

因为一般会有大的

飞机在身边

a plane, around you.

And when I strap just this little harness,

当我带上这些小的降落伞被带，

这个翅膀

this little wing,

我真的觉得像一只鸟

I really have the feeling of being a bird.

BG: How did you start to become Jetman?

BG： 你怎么会开始当飞人的？

YR: It was about 20 years ago,

YR： 那是20年前

when I discovered free falling.

我发现了自由降落

When you go out of an airplane, you are almost naked.

当我从飞机出去

几乎裸体

就是那种动作

You take a position like that.

And especially when you take a tracking position,

特别是采取跟随姿势时

就有一种

you have the feeling that you are flying.

飞翔的感觉

And that's the nearest thing to the dream.

这就是最接近梦想的事了

You have no machine around you.

周围没有机器

You are just in the element.

只有我自己

It's very short and only in one direction.

航程很短，而且单项

(Laughter)

所以主要思想

So the idea was, okay,

就是，好的，保持那种自由的感觉

keep that feeling of freedom,

but change the vector and increase the time.

但要改变航道，增加飞翔时间

BG： 所以我有些好奇，你的最高速度是什么？

BG: So I'm kind of curious, what's your top speed?

YR： 转弯前大概每小时300 公里

YR: It's about 300 km per hour before looping.

That means about 190 miles per hour.

就是每小时190公里

BG: What's the weight of the equipment you're carrying?

BG：那么你带的器械有多重呢？

如果满载柴油

YR: When I exit full of kerosene,

I'm about 55 kilos.

我大概是55 公斤。

I have 55 kilos on my back.

我是说有55公斤在我的背上

BG: And you're not piloting?

BG： 那你不飞的时候呢？

There is no handle, no steering, nothing?

没有拉手，没有方向盘，什么都没有吗？

It is purely your body,

就靠你的身体，

and the wings become part of the body and vice versa?

翅膀变成你身体的部分，或者相反？

YR: That's really the goal,

YR：这真的是我的目标

because if you put in steering,

因为如果我装上方向盘

then you reinvent the airplane.

就等于重新发明飞机了，

And I wanted to keep this freedom of movement.

我想要的是保持这种自由的飞翔动作

And it's really like the kid playing the airplane.

这很像孩子玩飞机

我就想像那样下降

I want to go down like that.

然后上升，转弯。

And up I climb, I turn.

It's really pure flying.

纯粹的飞行。

It's not steering, it's flight.

不是航行，是飞行。

BG: What kind of training do you do, you personally, for that?

BG： 你为此做了什么

个人训练吗？

YR: Actually, I try to stay just fit.

YR： 实际上，我努力保持健康

I don't do special physical training.

我不做特别的体能训练

我只是通过新的活动

I just try to keep my mobility through new activities.

保持灵活

比如

For example, last winter I began with kite surfing.

去年冬天，我开始风筝冲浪--

做新的事情

So, new things.

So you have to adapt.

所以你必须适应

I'm quite an experienced manager of systems as a pilot,

所以就是--我是飞行员

对于系统管理很有经验

but this is, really --

但是真是情况是

You need fluidity,

我需要流畅性

you need to be agile

需要灵活

同时也要能适应快速

and also to adapt really fast.

BG: Somebody in the audience asked me,

BG： 有观众问

"How does he breathe up there?"

他在空中是怎么呼吸的？

Because you're going fast and you're up at 3,000 meters or so.

因为你的速度很快，而且你飞到高空3000米左右处

YR: Okay, up to 3,000 meters,

YR： 是的，到3000米

it's not such a big problem with oxygen.

氧气不是大问题

但是，举例说，自行车手

But for example, bikers,

they have the same speed.

也有同样的速度

Just with the helmet, integral helmet,

只要带上面罩

呼吸不成问题

it's really no problem to breathe.

给我谈谈你带来的这些器械。

BG: Describe for me the equipment, since you have it here.

So Breitling's four engines.

百年灵的四个引擎。

YR: Yeah, two-meter span.

YR： 是的，两米长。

Ultra-stable profile.

超稳定系统。

Four little engines,

四个小的引擎

22 kilos thrust each,

每个22公里的推力，

turbines, working with kerosene.

柴油涡轮机

降落伞背带，降落伞

Harness, parachute.

My only instruments are an altimeter and time.

我唯一的仪器是测高仪和计时器。

我知道我有大约8分钟的油可用

I know I have about eight minutes fuel.

所以在用完前要检查一下。

So I just check before it's finished.

(Laughter)

笑

嗯，就这些了。

And yeah, that's all.

Two parachutes.

两幅降落伞

That means, if I have a problem with the first one I pull,

就是说，如果我拉的第一副

降落伞出了问题

我还可以

I still have the possibility to open the second one.

打开第二个

所以这是救命用的

And this is my life.

That's the real important thing about safety.

这对于安全真的很重要

我在过去的15年中

I did use that during these last 15 years

使用过

about 20 times.

大约20次--

Never with that type of wing, but at the beginning.

但是在开始飞的时候。有了这种翅膀后从没用过。

I can release my wing

我在旋转时，不稳定时

when I am in a spin or unstable.

就可以打开翅膀。

BG： 我们看到在2009年你穿越直布罗陀海峡时

BG: We saw the 2009 crossing of the Gibraltar Strait

where you lost control

失去了控制

and then you dived down into the clouds

然后你俯冲到云里

又冲到海里

and in the ocean.

So that was one of those cases where you let the wings go, right?

你就是在那种情况下你会放开翅膀的，是吗？

YR： 是的。 我在云层里尝试

YR: Yeah. I did try in the clouds,

but you lose orientation completely.

但是完全失去了方向。

So I did try to take, again,

所以我又尝试

a climb altitude.

在往上飞。

I thought, okay, I will go out.

我想，没问题，我会出去的。

But most probably, I did something like that.

但是，确实有可能，我那样做了。

(Laughter)

BG: Something that is not very safe, the image.

BG： 那样看起来可不安全啊。

YR: You feel great, but --

YR：但你感觉很棒

只是高度不对。

(Laughter)

But you have not the right altitude.

所以后来我看到的就是蓝色

So the next thing I saw was just blue.

It was the sea.

是大海

I have also an audible altimeter.

我还有一只发声测高器

所以我在那个航线的

So I was at my minimum altitude

in that vector -- fast --

最低高度，速度很快

so I pulled that.

拉降落伞

And then I did open my chute.

然后就拉开了

BG: So the wings have their own parachute, and you have your two parachutes.

所以每个翅膀上都有一个降落伞，总共有两个。

YR: Exactly. There is a rescue parachute for the wing

YR： 确实。翅膀上有一个救援降落伞

for two reasons:

主要有两个原因

so I can repair it afterward

一来可以在事后修理

and especially so nobody takes that, just on his head.

另外主要是没有人会拿，就在头顶上。

BG： 明白。也许回到这里来

BG: I see. Maybe come back here.

This is risky stuff indeed.

这确实是很危险的。

有人尝试做这样的事结果送命了。

People have died trying to do this kind of thing.

你看起来不像疯狂的家伙，你是瑞士飞行员。

And you don't look like a crazy guy; you're a Swiss airline pilot,

所以你是很仔细的人

so you're rather a checklist kind of guy.

I assume you have standards.

我估计你有你的标准。

YR: Yeah. I have no checklist for that.

是的。但我没有什么检查清单。

(Laughter)

BG： 不要告诉你的老板哦！

BG: Let's not tell your employer.

(Laughter)

YR：不，这是两个世界。

YR: No, that's really two worlds.

Civil aviation is something that we know very well.

我们很了解民航

已有两百年的经验

We have a hundred years of experience.

And you can adapt really precisely.

因此我们可以恪守

规定

With that, I have to adapt to something new.

但是现在是全新的东西，需要去适应

That means improvise.

这意味着改进

So it's really a play between these two approaches.

所以这实在是这两套系统

Something that I know very well, these principles.

有一些我很熟悉

比如这些原则

For example, we have two engines on an Airbus;

一架空中客车有两个引擎

但是我们只需要有一个就可以飞行了。

with only one engine, you can fly it.

所以要有第二套计划，总是要准备第二套计划。

So plan B, always a plan B.

在飞机上，有一个弹射座椅

In a fighter, you have an ejection seat.

That's my ejection seat.

这是我的弹射座椅。

所以我有职业飞行员

So I have the approach of a professional pilot

在自然母亲面前

with the respect of a pioneer

表示尊敬的做法

in front of Mother Nature.

BG: It's well said.

BG： 说的好，说的好。

What happens if one of the engines stops?

如果其中的一个引擎坏了怎么办

YR: I do a roll.

YR: 我换另一个用。

And then I stabilize,

然后我根据我的高度

稳定速度

and according to my altitude, I continue on two or three engines.

再用两到三个引擎。

这是可能的--

It's sometimes possible.

It's quite complicated to explain,

要解释起来比较复杂

但是我采取的方法是

but according to which regime I was,

I can continue on two

继续用第二个引擎

and try to get a nice place to land, and then I open my parachute.

找到安全的地方准备降落，然后打开降落伞。

BG: So the beginning of the flight

BG： 在飞行开始之时

is actually you jump off a plane or a helicopter,

你实际上会从飞机或直升机上跳下

and you go on a dive and accelerate the engines,

继续俯冲，加速引擎

and then you basically take off mid-air somewhere.

然后在空中起飞

And then the landing, as we have seen,

再降落，正如我们所见到的

arriving on this side of the Channel,

通过降落伞

在海峡这边抵达

is through a parachute.

So just as a curiosity,

有些好奇

where did you land when you flew over the Grand Canyon?

你在飞跃大峡谷时在哪里降落呢？

是在边缘还是在底谷？

Did you land on the rim, down at the bottom?

YR: It was down on the bottom.

YR: 是在底谷

And I came back afterward on the sled of the helicopter back.

之后我乘坐在直升机后部的滑板上

回来

But it was too stony and full of cactus on top.

在上面岩石坚硬，而且长满仙人掌。

(Laughter)

BG： 所以我才要问这个问题。

BG: That's exactly why I asked the question.

而且那里的气流也很奇怪

YR: And also, the currents are quite funny there.

There is big thermal activity,

有大的热流活动

big difference in altitude also.

海拔高度也有大的不同。

So it was much safer for me to land at the bottom.

所以降落在低谷安全的多。

BG： 现在，我想，很多在坐的观众

BG: I think that right now, many people are asking,

"When are you developing a double-seater

一定想问：“ 好啊，什么时候你能设计双座

so they can fly with you?"

他们可以和你一起飞？”

YR: I have a standard answer.

YR： 我有标准答案

Have you ever seen tandem birds?

你有见过纵排飞行的鸟呢？

(Laughter)

BG： 太棒的答案！

BG: Perfect answer.

(Applause)

（掌声）

(Applause ends)

BG: Yves, one last question.

Yves,最后一个问题

What's next for you? What's next for Jetman?

下一步的计划是什么？飞人的下一步计划是什么？

YR: First, to instruct a younger guy.

YR：首先，带一个学徒

I want to share it, to do formation flights.

我想分享我的飞行经验，

进行常规飞行

And I plan to start from a cliff,

然后我计划从悬崖开始

like catapulted from a cliff.

从悬崖上如弹射器般发射

BG: So instead of jumping off a plane, yes?

BG：就是不从飞机上跳下了，是吗？

YR: Yes, with the final goal to take off, but with initial speed.

YR： 是的，最终的目标是要起飞

但是初始速度是那样的。

Really, I go step by step.

是的，我是按部就班的做

It seems a little bit crazy, but it's not.

看起来有点疯狂

实际上并不是的。

It's possible to start already now, it's just too dangerous.

其实现在就可以开始了，就是还觉得太危险

(Laughter)

（笑）

Thanks to the increasing technology, better technology,

由于不断完善的技术

会安全的。

it will be safe.

我希望今后每个人都可以飞。

And I hope it will be for everybody.

BG： Yves,非常谢谢， Yves Rossy.

BG: Yves, thank you very much. Yves Rossy.

(鼓掌）

(Applause)