Fly with the Jetman | Yves Rossy

譯者: zhang haohan 審譯者: Ann Lee

(Music)

(音樂)

[music by Moby]

火箭人 依福斯羅斯

大峽谷

[Grand Canyon]

Narrator: Many of the tests are conducted

當依福斯駕駛火箭時

while Yves is strapped onto the wing,

作為整個本件的一本分

because Yves' body is an integral part of the aircraft.

我們做了很多的測試

[Wind tunnel tests]

風洞測試

Narrator: The wing has no steering controls, no flaps, no rudder.

火箭沒有轉向器

沒有副翼 沒有方向盤

Yves uses his body to steer the wing.

依福斯靠著身體轉動火箭

Stefan Von Bergen: Well, he turns

stenfan von bergen 項目經理： 看

by just putting his head on one or the other side.

他通過頭部的移動

And sometimes he assists that with his hands,

有時在手的幫助下

sometimes even with the leg.

甚至腳來改變方向

He's acting as a human fuselage, so to say.

他就像是一個人體機身

非常的特別

And that's quite unique.

當他抬起背時

Narrator: When he arches his back, he gains altitude.

高度就會增加

當他前移肩部時

When he pushes his shoulders forward, he goes into a dive.

高度就會降低

[Swiss Alps]

瑞士阿爾卑斯山脈

[Strait of Gibraltar crossing]

飛躍直布羅陀海峽

[English Channel crossing]

飛躍英吉利海峽

Commentator One: There he goes.

評論員 看他出發了

There is Yves Rossy.

依福斯羅斯

And I think the wing is open.

我想雙翼應該打開了 的確打開了

So our first critical moment, it's open.

這是我們第一個關鍵的時刻 它打開了

他在下降 他在飛行嗎

He is down. Is he flying?

評論員2 他看起來找到了平衡

Commentator Two: It looks like he's stabilized.

開始爬升了

He's starting to make his climb.

Commentator One: There's that 90 degree turn.

評論員 這就是你說的那個起航的90度回轉

他正飛躍在海峽上

He's out over the channel.

好的 依福斯羅斯

There is Yves Rossy.

There is no turning back now.

這就沒有回頭路了

He is over the English Channel and under way.

他正在穿越英吉利海峽

Ladies and gentlemen,

女士們先生們

a historic flight has begun.

歷史性的飛行已經開始了

[Images: National Geographic]

Commentator Two: And as he approaches the ground,

評論員2 當他靠近地面時

he's going to pull down on those toggles to flare,

他要打開降落傘的安全栓

慢慢地降低速度

slow himself down just a little bit,

and then come in for a nice landing.

然後非常完美的降落

看

Commentator One: There he is.

Yves Rossy has landed in England.

依福斯羅斯在英國大陸上降落了

Bruno Giussani: And now he's in Edinburgh. Yves Rossy!

布魯諾朱薩尼（ted歐洲區主管） 他現在就在愛丁堡 歡迎依福斯羅斯

（掌聲）

(Applause)

(Applause ends)

當然他的裝備也來了

And his equipment as well.

Yves, welcome. It is quite amazing.

歡迎你 依福斯 相當的驚奇

Those sequences were shot over the last three years

這個視頻是在你這三年中

數次的飛行的一個剪輯

in various moments of your activities.

當然還有很多很多

And there were many, many others.

So it's possible to fly almost like a bird.

看了它 我們可以幾乎像鳥一樣的飛行了吧

What is it like to be up there?

在天上是什麽感覺

Yves Rossy: It's fun. It's fun.

羅伊斯 很好玩

(Laughter)

（笑）

I don't have feathers.

我沒有羽毛

But I feel like a bird sometimes.

但是我時常感覺就像鳥似的

這是不真實的感受

It's really an unreal feeling,

because normally you have a big thing,

因為總有一個飛機

在你旁邊

a plane, around you.

And when I strap just this little harness,

當我只背上這小東西

這翅膀時

this little wing,

我才有感覺像鳥一樣

I really have the feeling of being a bird.

BG: How did you start to become Jetman?

布 你是如何成為火箭人的

YR: It was about 20 years ago,

依 那是差不多20年前

when I discovered free falling.

在我知道自由落體時

When you go out of an airplane, you are almost naked.

人只要走出了飛機

就幾乎沒有保護

你就要這樣做

You take a position like that.

And especially when you take a tracking position,

特別是你做這種下降的樣子時

你真的是有種

you have the feeling that you are flying.

你在飛的感覺

And that's the nearest thing to the dream.

這就是離我飛行最近的夢想

You have no machine around you.

在你身邊沒有機器

You are just in the element.

你就像在飛

It's very short and only in one direction.

那持續的非常短也只能在一個方向

(Laughter)

所以就有了這樣的想法

So the idea was, okay,

保持這種自由的感覺

keep that feeling of freedom,

but change the vector and increase the time.

但是能夠改變方向和增加時間

布 我有點好奇 速度最快能多少

BG: So I'm kind of curious, what's your top speed?

在迴旋前大概300km每小時

YR: It's about 300 km per hour before looping.

That means about 190 miles per hour.

這就意味著190英里每小時

BG: What's the weight of the equipment you're carrying?

布 那你帶的裝備有多重

依 當加滿燃料時

YR: When I exit full of kerosene,

I'm about 55 kilos.

我大概55kg

I have 55 kilos on my back.

然後在背上個55kg

BG: And you're not piloting?

布 從某種感覺上你沒有在駕駛

There is no handle, no steering, nothing?

沒有手柄沒有轉向器

It is purely your body,

就只有你的身體

and the wings become part of the body and vice versa?

感覺像是翅膀和你身體的互相成為了彼此的一部份

YR: That's really the goal,

依 那自然是我們的目標

because if you put in steering,

因為加入你加入了方向盤

then you reinvent the airplane.

你就像是又發明了一遍飛機

And I wanted to keep this freedom of movement.

我也希望能一直保持這種自由的感覺

And it's really like the kid playing the airplane.

就像小孩子模仿飛機一樣的感覺

我想下降時就這樣

I want to go down like that.

上升 轉向

And up I climb, I turn.

It's really pure flying.

就是一種純粹的飛行

It's not steering, it's flight.

不是操控方向盤 而是飛行

BG: What kind of training do you do, you personally, for that?

布 你又會做一些怎樣的訓練

個人的 爲了飛行

YR: Actually, I try to stay just fit.

依 事實上 我就只需要保持體重

I don't do special physical training.

沒有做什麽特殊的身體訓練

就是通過新的活動

I just try to keep my mobility through new activities.

保持靈活性

比如

For example, last winter I began with kite surfing.

上個冬天 我開始了風箏衝浪

新事物

So, new things.

So you have to adapt.

所以你要去適應它

I'm quite an experienced manager of systems as a pilot,

因為我作為一個火箭人

對這方面的系統還是比較有經驗的

but this is, really --

但是這項運動

You need fluidity,

還是很需要靈敏性的

you need to be agile

你要很靈活

並且還要變得很快

and also to adapt really fast.

BG: Somebody in the audience asked me,

布 有的觀眾問我

"How does he breathe up there?"

你是如何呼吸的

Because you're going fast and you're up at 3,000 meters or so.

因為你飛的很快并會到海拔3000m以上

YR: Okay, up to 3,000 meters,

依 到了3000m以上

it's not such a big problem with oxygen.

氧氣其實並不是什麽大問題

比如 摩托車手

But for example, bikers,

they have the same speed.

他們和這是差不多的速度

Just with the helmet, integral helmet,

帶上頭盔一整個頭盔

呼吸也不是什麽問題

it's really no problem to breathe.

跟我們介紹一下你在這的裝備吧

BG: Describe for me the equipment, since you have it here.

So Breitling's four engines.

有四個引擎

YR: Yeah, two-meter span.

依 對 兩米寬

Ultra-stable profile.

超穩定的支架

Four little engines,

四個小引擎

22 kilos thrust each,

每個都是渦輪的22kg推力

turbines, working with kerosene.

柴油供應

機廠 降落傘

Harness, parachute.

My only instruments are an altimeter and time.

我唯一用的是高度計和秒錶

我有大概八分鐘的燃料

I know I have about eight minutes fuel.

所以一定要確保沒有燒完

So I just check before it's finished.

(Laughter)

（笑）

然後最後

And yeah, that's all.

Two parachutes.

的兩個降落傘

That means, if I have a problem with the first one I pull,

假如第一個

壞掉了

我就可以去

I still have the possibility to open the second one.

拉第二個

這是我生命的保證

And this is my life.

That's the real important thing about safety.

是對安全問題很重要的東西

在過去的15年

I did use that during these last 15 years

我用了大概20次

about 20 times.

這個傘

Never with that type of wing, but at the beginning.

但是這個型號沒有遇到這樣的問題 但是在一開始

I can release my wing

我是會放棄我的翅膀

when I am in a spin or unstable.

當我很不平衡甚至打轉

布 我們看了2009年穿越直布羅陀海峽的那是

BG: We saw the 2009 crossing of the Gibraltar Strait

where you lost control

當你失去控制時

and then you dived down into the clouds

你直接降到了雲層下

墜入海中

and in the ocean.

So that was one of those cases where you let the wings go, right?

這是你放棄火箭當中的一次對吧

依 是的我在雲中嘗試了

YR: Yeah. I did try in the clouds,

but you lose orientation completely.

但是你完全丟掉了方向

So I did try to take, again,

我還是嘗試再一次

a climb altitude.

攀升高度

I thought, okay, I will go out.

我想這應該就能解決了

But most probably, I did something like that.

但是大部份時候卻那樣了

(Laughter)

BG: Something that is not very safe, the image.

布 這給人很不安全的感覺

YR: You feel great, but --

依 但是你會感覺很爽

卻掉了下去

(Laughter)

But you have not the right altitude.

接下來我看到的就是一片藍

So the next thing I saw was just blue.

It was the sea.

就是大海了

I have also an audible altimeter.

我也有一個有語音功能的高度計

所以當我知道在最低高度時

So I was at my minimum altitude

in that vector -- fast --

速度很快的

so I pulled that.

我就放棄了火箭

And then I did open my chute.

打開了降落傘

BG: So the wings have their own parachute, and you have your two parachutes.

所以火箭是有它自己的降落傘 在你身上還有兩個降落傘

YR: Exactly. There is a rescue parachute for the wing

對 為火箭也配了降落傘

for two reasons:

因為

so I can repair it afterward

第一我可以在事後修它

and especially so nobody takes that, just on his head.

第二不會有人被活生生的砸到

布 好我明白了 可以回到這裡了

BG: I see. Maybe come back here.

This is risky stuff indeed.

這是一個有一定風險的東西

有很多人爲了這個付出了自己的生命

People have died trying to do this kind of thing.

你看起來也不像一個狂人 你是一個瑞士的飛行員

And you don't look like a crazy guy; you're a Swiss airline pilot,

所以你應該是那種注重安全性的人

so you're rather a checklist kind of guy.

I assume you have standards.

對於這個你應該有自己的分寸

YR: Yeah. I have no checklist for that.

依 是的 那就是不注意安全

(Laughter)

布 那這就最好不要告訴你的贊助了

BG: Let's not tell your employer.

(Laughter)

依 不是那樣的 那是兩個世界

YR: No, that's really two worlds.

Civil aviation is something that we know very well.

正統飛行學是我們很瞭解的領域

我們已經有100年的歷史

We have a hundred years of experience.

And you can adapt really precisely.

你有一個模子去模仿

但是這個

With that, I have to adapt to something new.

我就要去領悟一些新的東西

That means improvise.

這就意味著是去創作

So it's really a play between these two approaches.

在這兩者間也有一定的聯繫

Something that I know very well, these principles.

一些我很懂的東西

一些原則 比如

For example, we have two engines on an Airbus;

我們的客機有兩個引擎

但是只有一個時 你也是可以飛的

with only one engine, you can fly it.

這就是備用機換 同樣的

So plan B, always a plan B.

戰鬥機種 是有彈出式的座椅

In a fighter, you have an ejection seat.

That's my ejection seat.

這就是我的彈出式座椅

我有作為一個職業飛行員的知識

So I have the approach of a professional pilot

同時以一個開創者

with the respect of a pioneer

運用自然的力量

in front of Mother Nature.

BG: It's well said.

布 說的很好

What happens if one of the engines stops?

假如有一個引擎壞掉了你怎麼辦

YR: I do a roll.

依 我會打轉

And then I stabilize,

然後試著平衡

根據我的高度

and according to my altitude, I continue on two or three engines.

我現在有2或3個引擎

有時可能有機會

It's sometimes possible.

It's quite complicated to explain,

這可能有點難解釋

但是根據我的高度

but according to which regime I was,

I can continue on two

我可以靠著兩個繼續飛

and try to get a nice place to land, and then I open my parachute.

然後這一個好的地方降落 打開降落傘

BG: So the beginning of the flight

布 在飛行一開始

is actually you jump off a plane or a helicopter,

你是從一個飛機或直升機上跳下來的

and you go on a dive and accelerate the engines,

然後俯衝加速

and then you basically take off mid-air somewhere.

估計應該是在半空中飛行

And then the landing, as we have seen,

最後降落 這就是我們看到的

arriving on this side of the Channel,

到達海峽的另一端

借著降落傘降落

is through a parachute.

So just as a curiosity,

處於好奇

where did you land when you flew over the Grand Canyon?

當初你飛過大峽谷是在哪裡降落的

是在邊緣 還是下降到了地面

Did you land on the rim, down at the bottom?

YR: It was down on the bottom.

我是降到了地面

And I came back afterward on the sled of the helicopter back.

然後靠著

直升機回來的

But it was too stony and full of cactus on top.

因為表面太多的石頭和仙人掌

(Laughter)

布 這就是我爲什麽問這個問題

BG: That's exactly why I asked the question.

依 並且當時的氣流有點意思

YR: And also, the currents are quite funny there.

There is big thermal activity,

有一股巨大的上升暖氣流

big difference in altitude also.

在高度上也有很大的不同

So it was much safer for me to land at the bottom.

所以降落在地面會安全鞋

布 我想現在很多觀眾會問

BG: I think that right now, many people are asking,

"When are you developing a double-seater

你什麽時候造一個雙人的

so they can fly with you?"

那樣我們就可以一起飛了

YR: I have a standard answer.

依我給出很明確的回答

Have you ever seen tandem birds?

你們見過串聯在一起的鳥嗎

(Laughter)

布 絕妙的回答

BG: Perfect answer.

(Applause)

（掌聲）

(Applause ends)

BG: Yves, one last question.

依福斯 最後一個問題

What's next for you? What's next for Jetman?

下一個目標是哪裡 火箭人的下一個目標

YR: First, to instruct a younger guy.

依 首先找一個年輕人

I want to share it, to do formation flights.

教會他

去做列隊飛行

And I plan to start from a cliff,

我準備從一個懸崖出發

like catapulted from a cliff.

就像從懸崖旁彈射出去一樣

BG: So instead of jumping off a plane, yes?

布 就不從飛機上跳了吧

YR: Yes, with the final goal to take off, but with initial speed.

依 最終目標是能用初速度

起飛

Really, I go step by step.

真的是一步一步來

It seems a little bit crazy, but it's not.

聽起來有點假

但是不是的

It's possible to start already now, it's just too dangerous.

現在是有可能去做的 但是太危險了

(Laughter)

（笑）

Thanks to the increasing technology, better technology,

有更好的技術

就會更安全

it will be safe.

我希望最後每個人都能用

And I hope it will be for everybody.

布 依福斯 非常感謝 依福斯羅斯

BG: Yves, thank you very much. Yves Rossy.

（掌聲）

(Applause)