Robert Gupta: Between music and medicine

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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(Music)
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(音乐)
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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Thank you very much. (Applause)
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非常感谢。(掌声)
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Thank you. It's a distinct privilege to be here.
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谢谢。能在这里演出是我的荣幸。
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A few weeks ago, I saw a video on YouTube
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几个星期前,我在YouTube上看到一段视频
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of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords
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女性众议员Gabrielle Giffords
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at the early stages of her recovery
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因为受伤而接受治疗
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from one of those awful bullets.
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她受伤的原因是被子弹打中。
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This one entered her left hemisphere, and
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一颗打中她的左脑半球,
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knocked out her Broca's area, the speech center of her brain.
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进入布洛克区,那是大脑的语言中枢区域。
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And in this session, Gabby's working with a speech therapist,
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在治疗初期, Gabby找一位语言治疗师
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and she's struggling to produce
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她要说简单的字也很困难
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some of the most basic words, and you can see her
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你可以看到
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growing more and more devastated, until she ultimately
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她感觉越来越绝望,到最后
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breaks down into sobbing tears, and she starts sobbing
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她奔溃了,眼泪掉了下来
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wordlessly into the arms of her therapist.
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她在治疗师的怀抱中无言地呜咽
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And after a few moments, her therapist tries a new tack,
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过了一会儿,治疗师尝试新的方法
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and they start singing together,
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他们一起唱起歌来
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and Gabby starts to sing through her tears,
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Gabby 唱起歌,就不哭了
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and you can hear her clearly able to enunciate
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可以听到她清晰的发音
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the words to a song that describe the way she feels,
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这首歌的歌词正好描述了她的心情
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and she sings, in one descending scale, she sings,
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她不停的唱,用下降的音调,不停唱着
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"Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine."
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"让它闪烁,让它闪烁,让它闪烁。"
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And it's a very powerful and poignant reminder of how
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这件事有力地提醒我们,
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the beauty of music has the ability to speak
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美妙的音乐可以表达的
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where words fail, in this case literally speak.
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是语言无法做到的,我指的是说话的语言。
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Seeing this video of Gabby Giffords reminded me
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Gabby Giffords的视频让我想到
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of the work of Dr. Gottfried Schlaug,
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Gottfried Schlaug博士的研究
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one of the preeminent neuroscientists studying music and the brain at Harvard,
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他是哈佛最德高望重的神经学家之一,研究音乐和大脑
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and Schlaug is a proponent of a therapy called
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Schlaug支持一个治疗方法
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Melodic Intonation Therapy, which has become very popular in music therapy now.
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那就是旋律语调疗法,是现在很流行的音乐疗法。
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Schlaug found that his stroke victims who were aphasic,
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Schlaug 发现他中风的病人失语了,
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could not form sentences of three- or four-word sentences,
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无法组成3个字或4个字的句子
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but they could still sing the lyrics to a song,
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但他们仍然能唱歌曲的歌词
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whether it was "Happy Birthday To You"
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可能是"祝您生日快乐"
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or their favorite song by the Eagles or the Rolling Stones.
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或他们钟爱的老鹰乐队或滚石乐队的歌曲。
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And after 70 hours of intensive singing lessons,
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经过70小时密集的歌唱课程
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he found that the music was able to literally rewire
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他发现音乐真的可以在病人大脑中
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the brains of his patients and create a homologous
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建立新的连接,在右半脑中
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speech center in their right hemisphere
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建立类似语言中枢的区域
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to compensate for the left hemisphere's damage.
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来弥补左半球的伤害
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When I was 17, I visited Dr. Schlaug's lab, and in one afternoon
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我 17 岁时,参观了 Schlaug 博士的实验室
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he walked me through some of the leading research
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那天下午,他给我简单介绍了在音乐和大脑方面
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on music and the brain -- how musicians had
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最领先的研究结果— — 音乐家和非音乐家
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fundamentally different brain structure than non-musicians,
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的大脑结构完全不同
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how music, and listening to music,
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音乐和聆听音乐是如何
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could just light up the entire brain, from
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开启我们整个脑部,
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our prefrontal cortex all the way back to our cerebellum,
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范围包括前额叶到小脑
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how music was becoming a neuropsychiatric modality
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音乐是如何应用到神经精神方法中
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to help children with autism, to help people struggling
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来帮助自闭症儿童,以及生活在
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with stress and anxiety and depression,
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压力、焦虑、犹豫中的人
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how deeply Parkinsonian patients would find that their tremor
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听音乐时,帕金森病患者会感到
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and their gait would steady when they listened to music,
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抽搐减轻了,行走更稳定了
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and how late-stage Alzheimer's patients, whose dementia
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末期老人痴呆病人的痴呆程度发展到
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was so far progressed that they could no longer recognize
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他们无法认出自己的家人
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their family, could still pick out a tune by Chopin
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可是却能够在感情上演奏萧邦的曲子
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at the piano that they had learned when they were children.
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这是他们还是孩子时学习的曲子
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But I had an ulterior motive of visiting Gottfried Schlaug,
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我拜访Schlaug时,带着另一个的动机
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and it was this: that I was at a crossroads in my life,
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那时 我正处于人生的十字路口,
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trying to choose between music and medicine.
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需要在音乐和医学之间做出选择。
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I had just completed my undergraduate, and I was working
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我刚刚完成了我的本科,开始工作
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as a research assistant at the lab of Dennis Selkoe,
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担任Dennis Selkoe的研究助理
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studying Parkinson's disease at Harvard, and I had fallen
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他在哈佛研究帕金森症,我深爱神经科学
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in love with neuroscience. I wanted to become a surgeon.
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我想成为一名外科医生。
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I wanted to become a doctor like Paul Farmer or Rick Hodes,
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生像Paul Farmer或Rick Hodes那样的医生
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these kind of fearless men who go into places like Haiti or Ethiopia
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他们是无畏的人,前往海地、埃塞俄比亚那样的地方
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and work with AIDS patients with multidrug-resistant
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帮助得了抗药性肺结核的艾滋病人,
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tuberculosis, or with children with disfiguring cancers.
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或是帮助
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I wanted to become that kind of Red Cross doctor,
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我想成为红十字会医生,
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that doctor without borders.
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无国界医生
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On the other hand, I had played the violin my entire life.
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另一方面,我一生都在演奏小提琴
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Music for me was more than a passion. It was obsession.
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激情不足以形容我对音乐的痴迷。
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It was oxygen. I was lucky enough to have studied
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它是氧气。我非常幸运
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at the Juilliard School in Manhattan, and to have played
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在曼哈顿茱莉亚音乐学院学习
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my debut with Zubin Mehta and the Israeli philharmonic orchestra in Tel Aviv,
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我的处女秀在特拉维夫,和祖宾 · 梅塔和和特拉维夫以色列爱乐乐团同台
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and it turned out that Gottfried Schlaug
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其实Gottfried Schlaug
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had studied as an organist at the Vienna Conservatory,
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曾经在维也纳音乐学院学研究管风琴专业
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but had given up his love for music to pursue a career
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但他放弃了对音乐的热爱,致力医学事业
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in medicine. And that afternoon, I had to ask him,
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那天下午,我不得不问他,
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"How was it for you making that decision?"
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"您是如何作出这个决定的?"
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And he said that there were still times when he wished
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他说,有好几次,他希望自己能回去
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he could go back and play the organ the way he used to,
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像以前一样演奏管风琴
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and that for me, medical school could wait,
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对我来说,医学院可以先等等
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but that the violin simply would not.
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但小提琴不可以等
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And after two more years of studying music, I decided
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两年的音乐学习后,我决定
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to shoot for the impossible before taking the MCAT
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我要去考MCAT,
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and applying to medical school like a good Indian son
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像是一个印度好孩子一样,申请医学院
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to become the next Dr. Gupta. (Laughter)
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要成为下一个古普塔博士。(笑声)
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And I decided to shoot for the impossible and I took
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我决定挑战不可能的事
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an audition for the esteemed Los Angeles Philharmonic.
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我报名了著名洛杉矶爱乐乐团的甄选。
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It was my first audition, and after three days of playing
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这是我第一次甄选,在试演的礼拜
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behind a screen in a trial week, I was offered the position.
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我在幕后演奏了三天,最后我得到了乐团的工作
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And it was a dream. It was a wild dream to perform
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那像一场梦。那是一个狂野的梦
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in an orchestra, to perform in the iconic Walt Disney Concert Hall
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在交响乐团演奏,在圣殿级的沃尔特 · 迪斯尼音乐厅演奏
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in an orchestra conducted now by the famous Gustavo Dudamel,
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由著名的Gustavo Dudamel指挥的乐团中演出,
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but much more importantly to me to be surrounded
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更重要的是,围绕在我身边的是
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by musicians and mentors that became my new family,
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即将成为我新的家人的音乐家和导师
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my new musical home.
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我的音乐之家
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But a year later, I met another musician who had also
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但一年后,我遇到了另一位音乐家
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studied at Juilliard, one who profoundly helped me
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他也曾就读茱莉亚,他帮助了我很多
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find my voice and shaped my identity as a musician.
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帮我找到自己的琴声,和音乐家的个性
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Nathaniel Ayers was a double bassist at Juilliard, but
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Nathaniel Ayers曾经在茱莉亚学习双重贝斯,
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he suffered a series of psychotic episodes in his early 20s,
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但是在他 20 岁出头时,他患上一系列精神问题
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was treated with thorazine at Bellevue,
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需要服用贝尔维,作为镇静剂治疗
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and ended up living homeless on the streets of Skid Row
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此后的30年中,他在洛杉矶市中心
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in downtown Los Angeles 30 years later.
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Skid Row 的街头无家可归
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Nathaniel's story has become a beacon for homelessness
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Nathaniel的故事已成为整个美国
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and mental health advocacy throughout the United States,
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帮助流浪者和精神健康运动的典型例子
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as told through the book and the movie "The Soloist,"
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在《独奏者》这本书和同名电影讲的就是他的故事
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but I became his friend, and I became his violin teacher,
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但我成了他的朋友,还是他的小提琴老师,
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and I told him that wherever he had his violin,
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我告诉他,无论何处,只要他带着他的琴
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and wherever I had mine, I would play a lesson with him.
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我带着我的琴,我就会给他上课,
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And on the many times I saw Nathaniel on Skid Row,
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很多次,我在Skid Row看到Nathaniel,
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I witnessed how music was able to bring him back
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我亲眼目睹了音乐如何把他
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from his very darkest moments, from what seemed to me
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从最黑暗的时期,拯救回来
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in my untrained eye to be
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那是在我这个没受训练的人看来
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the beginnings of a schizophrenic episode.
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他像是精神分裂症的前期。
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Playing for Nathaniel, the music took on a deeper meaning,
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为Nathaniel的演奏,音乐有了更深一层的含义,
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because now it was about communication,
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因为它像是沟通
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a communication where words failed, a communication
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这个沟通无法用语言传达,
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of a message that went deeper than words, that registered
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信息比语言到达地更深层,
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at a fundamentally primal level in Nathaniel's psyche,
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达到了Nathaniel的心灵中真我的层次
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yet came as a true musical offering from me.
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对我来说,也是音乐真正的馈赠
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I found myself growing outraged that someone
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我发现自己对流浪者的现象越来越气愤,
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like Nathaniel could have ever been homeless on Skid Row
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Nathaniel因为精神疾病无家可归,
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because of his mental illness, yet how many tens of thousands
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像他一样,Skid Row里成千上百的人
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of others there were out there on Skid Row alone
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独自流浪街头
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who had stories as tragic as his, but were never going to have a book or a movie
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他们之所以流浪,也有背后悲惨的故事,
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made about them that got them off the streets?
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但没能写成书,拍成电影
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And at the very core of this crisis of mine, I felt somehow
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在我人生危机最急迫的时候,
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the life of music had chosen me, where somehow,
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我感到,音乐人生选择了我,
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perhaps possibly in a very naive sense, I felt what Skid Row
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或许可能很天真的意义上来说,
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really needed was somebody like Paul Farmer
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我觉得Skid Row真正需要的是Paul Farmer那样的医生
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and not another classical musician playing on Bunker Hill.
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而不是Bunker Hill的古典音乐家。
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But in the end, it was Nathaniel who showed me
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但最终,是Nathaniel告诉了我
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that if I was truly passionate about change,
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我是否真的要转到另一个领域
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if I wanted to make a difference, I already had the perfect instrument to do it,
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如果我要选择换一条路,我已经有最好的工具帮助我
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that music was the bridge that connected my world and his.
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那就是音乐,连接着我和他世界的桥梁。
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There's a beautiful quote
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有一句美丽的名言
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by the Romantic German composer Robert Schumann,
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是德国浪漫派作曲家罗伯特·舒曼说的
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who said, "To send light into the darkness of men's hearts,
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“用光照亮人们内心的黑暗,”
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such is the duty of the artist."
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“这是艺术家的责任。”
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And this is a particularly poignant quote
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其实这句名言的背后也有残酷的故事
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because Schumann himself suffered from schizophrenia
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因为舒曼自己受精神分裂症煎熬,
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and died in asylum.
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最后在庇护所去世
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And inspired by what I learned from Nathaniel,
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我从Nathaniel那里学到的东西驱使我
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I started an organization on Skid Row of musicians
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开始组建一个由Skid Row 流浪音乐家组成的组织
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called Street Symphony, bringing the light of music
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称为“街交响乐团”,为的是用音乐之光
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into the very darkest places, performing
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照亮最黑暗的地方,
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for the homeless and mentally ill at shelters and clinics
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为Skid Row庇护所和诊所中的无家可归者和精神病人表演
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on Skid Row, performing for combat veterans
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为患有创伤后遗症的退伍老兵表演
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with post-traumatic stress disorder, and for the incarcerated
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为在监狱里服刑,为那些
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and those labeled as criminally insane.
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有犯罪精神问题的人表演
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After one of our events at the Patton State Hospital
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我们去圣贝纳迪诺巴顿州立医院表演
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in San Bernardino, a woman walked up to us
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结束后,一名女子走到我们跟前
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and she had tears streaming down her face,
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泪珠顺着她的脸留下来,
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and she had a palsy, she was shaking,
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她患有麻痹症,会不停地在颤抖,
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and she had this gorgeous smile, and she said
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她笑得很灿烂,她告诉我们,
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that she had never heard classical music before,
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她之前从没通过古典音乐,
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she didn't think she was going to like it, she had never
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她觉得自己不会喜欢,
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heard a violin before, but that hearing this music was like hearing the sunshine,
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没有我们的话,她永远不会听到小提琴,但我们的音乐像是阳光一般,
10:51
and that nobody ever came to visit them, and that for the first time in six years,
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之前从未有人来过,这是六年来的头一次
10:54
when she heard us play, she stopped shaking without medication.
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她听到我们的演奏,即使没有服药,她停止了颤抖。
10:59
Suddenly, what we're finding with these concerts,
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突然间,我们找到了演奏会
11:02
away from the stage, away from the footlights, out
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舞台,灯光,燕尾服
11:05
of the tuxedo tails, the musicians become the conduit
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音乐家成为强大的治疗渠道
11:08
for delivering the tremendous therapeutic benefits
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把有利于治疗的音乐传送到
11:12
of music on the brain to an audience that would never
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听众的大脑里
11:15
have access to this room,
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这些听众以前是不可能听到
11:16
would never have access to the kind of music that we make.
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我们演奏的这种音乐
11:22
Just as medicine serves to heal more
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这样的音乐就像良药
11:26
than the building blocks of the body alone,
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它的治愈效果不仅仅是修补身体
11:29
the power and beauty of music transcends the "E"
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它的力量和美超越了“E”
11:33
in the middle of our beloved acronym.
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“E”是我们敬爱的人的首字母缩写中间的那个字母
11:36
Music transcends the aesthetic beauty alone.
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音乐超越了单独的审美
11:39
The synchrony of emotions that we experience when we
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听到瓦格纳的歌剧、勃拉姆斯的交响乐,或贝多芬的室内乐
11:42
hear an opera by Wagner, or a symphony by Brahms,
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会体验到步调一致的感情,·
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or chamber music by Beethoven, compels us to remember
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这必定会唤起我们的记忆
11:49
our shared, common humanity, the deeply communal
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那是我们共享的共通的人性,
11:53
connected consciousness, the empathic consciousness
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互相紧密意识联结,和同情心
11:56
that neuropsychiatrist Iain McGilchrist says is hard-wired
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根据神经心理学家Iain McGilchrist,以上这些
12:00
into our brain's right hemisphere.
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在我们的右脑中是天生的
12:03
And for those living in the most dehumanizing conditions
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那些在最差的条件下生活的
12:06
of mental illness within homelessness
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患有精神疾病的流浪汉和监狱犯人
12:09
and incarceration, the music and the beauty of music
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音乐和音乐的美
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offers a chance for them to transcend the world around them,
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提供他们机会,看到他们世界以外的东西
12:16
to remember that they still have the capacity to experience
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让他们知道,他们任由能力体验
12:19
something beautiful and that humanity has not forgotten them.
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美妙的事物,社会没有遗忘他们
12:23
And the spark of that beauty, the spark of that humanity
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音乐的美,人性的美的火花
12:26
transforms into hope,
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转化成希望
12:29
and we know, whether we choose the path of music
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我们知道,无理论我们选择音乐事业,
12:32
or of medicine, that's the very first thing we must instill
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或医学事业,首要一点是
12:35
within our communities, within our audiences,
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我们渗透到我们的社区和观众中
12:37
if we want to inspire healing from within.
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这样才能启发从内而外治疗
12:41
I'd like to end with a quote by John Keats,
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我要用英国浪漫诗人约翰·济慈的一句名言
12:44
the Romantic English poet,
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结束我的演讲
12:46
a very famous quote that I'm sure all of you know.
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我相信你们都知道这句著名的名言
12:49
Keats himself had also given up a career in medicine
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济慈当年同样放弃了医学事业
12:52
to pursue poetry, but he died when he was a year older than me.
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投生诗歌创作,但他去世的年纪,比我现在的年龄大一岁
12:55
And Keats said, "Beauty is truth, and truth beauty.
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济慈说,"美是真理,真相是美。
13:00
That is all ye know on Earth, and all ye need to know."
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这是你们所知道的地球,和你们需要知道的全部。
13:09
(Music)
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(音乐)
15:53
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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