What I learned about freedom after escaping North Korea | Yeonmi Park | TED
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I was born in 1993
in the northern part of North Korea,
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我出生于 1993 年的朝鲜北部,
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in a town called Hyesan,
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一个叫海珊的小镇,
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which is on the border with China.
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紧挨着中国边境。
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I had loving parents
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我有爱我的父母
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and one older sister.
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和一个姐姐。
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Before I was even 10 years old,
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我在 10 岁前,
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my father was sent to a labor camp
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我父亲因参与非法贸易
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for engaging in illegal trading.
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而被送进劳动营。
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Now, by "illegal trading" --
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“非法贸易”的意思是,
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he was selling clogs, sugar,
rice and later copper
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他卖衣服、糖、粮食以及后来是铜
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to feed us.
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来养活我们。
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In 2007, my sister and I
decided to escape.
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2007 年,我姐姐和我打算逃亡。
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She was 16 years old,
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她当时 16 岁,
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and I was 13 years old.
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而我 13 岁。
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I need you to understand
what the word "escape" means
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我想让你们理解“逃亡”
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in the context of North Korea.
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在朝鲜这个环境中的意思。
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We were all starving,
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我们全都处于挨饿状态,
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and hunger means death in North Korea.
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而在朝鲜饥饿意味着死亡。
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So it was the only option for us.
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所以这是我们唯一的选择。
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I didn't even understand
the concept of escape,
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我甚至不理解逃亡的概念,
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but I could see the lights
from China at night,
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但我可以在晚上看到来自中国的灯光,
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and I wondered if I go where the light is,
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我好奇如果我能到达灯光那边,
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I might be able to find a bowl of rice.
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我也许能找到一碗米饭。
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It's not like we had a grand plan or maps.
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我们没有宏大的计划或者地图。
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We did not know anything
about what was going to happen.
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我们不知道会发生什么。
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Imagine your apartment
building caught fire.
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试想你家着火了。
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I mean, what would you do?
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我意思是,你会怎么做?
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Would you stay there to be burned,
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你会待在那里等着被烧死,
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or would you jump off out of the window
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还是会从窗户里跳出去
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and see what happens?
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看看会发生什么?
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That's what we did.
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这就是我们做的。
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We jumped out of the house
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我们从房子里跳了出来
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instead of the fire.
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而非待在火中。
02:17
North Korea is unimaginable.
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朝鲜无法想象。
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It's very hard for me
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当人们问我生活在那里是什么感觉时,
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when people ask me
what it feels like to live there.
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我难回答他们。
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To be honest,
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老实说,
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I tell you:
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我告诉你们:
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you can't even imagine it.
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你实在无法想象那里的生活。
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The words in any language can't describe,
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用任何语言的词汇都没法描述,
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because it's a totally different planet,
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因为那是个完全不一样的世界,
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as you cannot imagine
your life on Mars right now.
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就如同你现在无法想象
火星上的生活一样。
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For example, the word "love"
has only one meaning:
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比如,“爱”这个词只有一个意思:
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love for the Dear Leader.
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对伟大领袖的爱。
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There's no concept
of romantic love in North Korea.
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在朝鲜没有浪漫的概念 。
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And if you don't know the words,
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如果你不知道这个词,
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that means you don't
understand the concept,
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就意味着你不理解这个概念,
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and therefore, you don't even realize
that concept is even a possibility.
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因此,你甚至无法意识到
这个概念是真实存在的。
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Let me give you another example.
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让我再给你们一个例子。
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Growing up in North Korea,
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在朝鲜长大,
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we truly believed that our Dear Leader
is an almighty god
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我们真的相信我们敬爱的领袖
是全能的神,
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who can even read my thoughts.
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他甚至可以看穿我的想法。
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I was even afraid to think in North Korea.
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在朝鲜,我甚至害怕思考。
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We are told that he's starving for us,
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我们被告知他在盯着我们,
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and he's working tirelessly for us,
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他不知疲倦地为我们工作着,
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and my heart just broke for him.
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我为他(的举动)而感动、心碎。
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When I escaped to South Korea,
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当我逃亡到韩国时,
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people told me that
he was actually a dictator,
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人们告诉我他其实是个独裁者,
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he had cars,
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他有很多辆汽车,
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many, many resorts,
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数不清的度假地,
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and he had an ultraluxurious life.
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并且他过着极端奢侈的生活。
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And then I remember
looking at a picture of him,
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然后我记得我看着照片上的他,
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realizing for the first time
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第一次意识到
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that he is the largest guy in the picture.
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他是照片中最大的家伙。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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And it hit me.
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这震惊了我。
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Finally, I realized he wasn't starving.
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终于,我意识到他没有挨饿。
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But I was never able to see that before,
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但我以前从来都看不到,
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until someone told me that he was fat.
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直到有人告诉我他很胖。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Really, someone had to teach me
that he was fat.
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真的,我需要有人告诉我他是个胖子。
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If you have never practiced
critical thinking,
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如果你从来没有练习批判性思维,
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then you simply see
what you're told to see.
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那么你只会知道
别人让你知道的事情。
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The biggest question also people ask me
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人们问我的最重大的问题是:
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is: "Why is there no revolution
inside North Korea?
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“为什么朝鲜不会发生革命,
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Are we dumb?
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你们都是傻的吗?
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Why is there no revolution
for 70 years of this oppression?"
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为什么 70 多年的压迫
都没有发生革命?”
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And I say:
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我回答道:
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If you don't know you're a slave,
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如果你都不知道你是个奴隶,
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if you don't know
you're isolated or oppressed,
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如果你不知道你被孤立压迫,
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how do you fight to be free?
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你如何为自由奋斗?
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I mean, if you know you're isolated,
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我意思是,如果你知道你被孤立,
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that means you are not isolated.
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这意味着你并没有被孤立。
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Not knowing is the true
definition of isolation,
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不知道才是孤立的真正含义,
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and that's why I never knew
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所以我从来不知道
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I was isolated when I was in North Korea.
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我在朝鲜时是被孤立的。
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I literally thought I was
in the center of the universe.
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我真以为自己在宇宙的中心。
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So here is my idea worth spreading:
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所以这是我认为值得传播的想法:
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a lot of people think
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很多人认为
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humans inherently know
what is right and wrong,
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人们天生知道什么是对错,
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the difference between
justice and injustice,
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人们知道公正和不公正的差异,
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what we deserve and we don't deserve.
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人们知道什么值得和什么不值得。
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I tell them: BS.
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我告诉他们:扯蛋。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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Everything,
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一切东西,
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everything must be taught,
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一切东西需要教育,
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including compassion.
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包括同情心。
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If I see someone dying
on the street right now,
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如果你今天看到有人在街上快要死去,
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I will do anything to save that person.
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我会尽一切可能拯救那个人。
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But when I was in North Korea,
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但当我在朝鲜时,
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I saw people dying
and dead on the streets.
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我看到人们在街上半死不活或死去。
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I felt nothing.
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我无动于衷。
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Not because I'm a psychopath,
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不是因为我精神失常,
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but because I never learned
the concept of compassion.
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而是因为我从来没了解过
什么是同情。
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Only, I felt compassion,
empathy and sympathy in my heart
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只有在我学到同情的词汇和概念后,
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after I learned the word
"compassion" and the concept,
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我才内心感到同情,怜悯和慈悲,
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and I feel them now.
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我现在能感受到了。
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Now I live in the United States
as a free person.
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现在我作为一个自由人生活在美国。
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(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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Thank you.
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谢谢。
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(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
07:24
And recently,
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最近,
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the leader of the free country,
our President Trump,
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自由国家的领袖,我们的总统特朗普,
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met with my former god.
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与我的前神会面。
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And he decided human rights
is not important enough
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他觉得人权这个议题不够重要
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to include in his agendas,
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不配在他日程上,
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and he did not talk about it.
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并且他不会谈论它。
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And it scares me.
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这让我害怕。
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We live in a world right now
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我们现在生活的世界
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where a dictator can be praised
for executing his uncle,
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独裁者因处决他的姑父,
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for killing his half brother,
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杀死他的同父异母弟弟,
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killing thousands of North Koreans.
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处死成千上万的朝鲜人而被赞扬。
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And that was worthy of praise.
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这值得赞扬。
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And also it made me think:
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这也让我思考;
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perhaps we all need to be taught
something new about freedom now.
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也许现在我们都需要
学习“自由”在新时代的含义。
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Freedom is fragile.
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自由是脆弱的。
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I don't want to alarm you, but it is.
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我不像惊吓你,但确实如此。
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It only took three generations
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只花了三代人的时间
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to make North Korea into
George Orwell's "1984."
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就让朝鲜变成了
乔治·奥威尔的《1984年》。
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It took only three generations.
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只需要三代人的时间。
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If we don't fight for human rights
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如果我们作为这里的自由人,
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for the people who are oppressed
right now who don't have a voice,
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不去为现在受压迫、
不能发出声音的人
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as free people here,
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抗争的话,
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who will fight for us
when we are not free?
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当我们不自由时,谁会为我们抗争。
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Machines? Animals? I don't know.
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机器?动物?我不知道。
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I think it's wonderful
that we care about climate change,
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我认为我们关心气候变化,
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animal rights, gender equality,
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动物权利,性别平等,
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all of these things.
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所有这些东西很棒。
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The fact that we care
about animals' rights,
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我们关心动物的事实
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that means that's
how beautiful our heart is,
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意味着我们的内心是如此的美丽,
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that we care about someone
who cannot speak for themselves.
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我们关心那些不会为
自己说话的事物。
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And North Koreans right now
cannot speak for themselves.
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朝鲜人民现在就不能替自己说话。
09:38
They don't have internet
in the 21st century.
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他们没有 21 世纪的互联网。
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We don't have electricity,
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我们没有电,
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and it is the darkest place
on earth right now.
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并且现在是地球上最黑暗的地方。
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Now I want to say something
to my fellow North Koreans
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现在我想要跟我生活在黑暗中的
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who are living in that darkness.
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朝鲜兄弟说几句。
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They might not believe this,
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他们可能不会相信这点,
09:59
but I want to tell them
that an alternative life is possible.
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但我想告诉他们
另一种的生活是可能的。
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Be free.
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自由吧。
10:07
From my experience,
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就我的经验而言,
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literally anything is possible.
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确实任何事情都有可能。
10:16
I was bought,
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我被买卖过,
10:17
I was sold as a slave.
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我被当奴隶卖过。
10:20
But now I'm here,
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但现在我在这里,
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and that is why I believe in miracles.
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因此我相信奇迹。
10:27
The one thing that I learned from history
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我从历史上学到的一个事情是
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is that nothing is forever in this world.
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这个世界上没有什么是永久的。
10:35
And that is why we have
every reason to be hopeful.
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所以我们有一切理由充满希望。
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Thank you.
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谢谢。
10:42
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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