What I learned about freedom after escaping North Korea | Yeonmi Park | TED

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譯者: Marssi Draw 審譯者: Regina Chu
00:13
I was born in 1993 in the northern part of North Korea,
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1993 年我出生在北韓的北部
00:18
in a town called Hyesan,
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一個名叫惠山的小鎮,
00:21
which is on the border with China.
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鄰近中國邊界。
00:24
I had loving parents
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我有愛我的父母
00:27
and one older sister.
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和一個姊姊。
00:31
Before I was even 10 years old,
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在我才十歲大的時候,
00:34
my father was sent to a labor camp
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我爸就被送去勞改營,
00:37
for engaging in illegal trading.
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因為他非法買賣一些東西。
00:41
Now, by "illegal trading" --
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所謂的非法買賣,
00:45
he was selling clogs, sugar, rice and later copper
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其實他是賣一些木鞋、 糖、米,之後還賣了銅,
00:51
to feed us.
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只為了餵飽我們。
00:55
In 2007, my sister and I decided to escape.
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2007 年,我姊姊和我決定逃跑。
01:01
She was 16 years old,
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她當時 16 歲,
01:04
and I was 13 years old.
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我 13 歲。
01:08
I need you to understand what the word "escape" means
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你們要了解,
「逃跑」這兩字在北韓是什麼意思。
01:13
in the context of North Korea.
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01:17
We were all starving,
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我們都非常飢餓,
01:20
and hunger means death in North Korea.
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而飢餓在北韓意謂著死亡。
01:25
So it was the only option for us.
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所以逃跑是我們唯一的選擇。
01:29
I didn't even understand the concept of escape,
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我當時還不了解逃跑是什麼意思,
01:33
but I could see the lights from China at night,
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但晚上我可以看見 中國那頭的燈光,
01:38
and I wondered if I go where the light is,
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我想著如果我能到有光的地方,
01:43
I might be able to find a bowl of rice.
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也許就能找到一碗飯。
01:48
It's not like we had a grand plan or maps.
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我們沒有什麼宏偉計畫或地圖。
01:52
We did not know anything about what was going to happen.
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我們完全不知道會發生什麼事。
01:57
Imagine your apartment building caught fire.
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想像你的公寓大樓失火了,
02:00
I mean, what would you do?
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你會怎麼辦?
02:02
Would you stay there to be burned,
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你會坐以待斃,
02:05
or would you jump off out of the window
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還是從窗戶跳下,
02:07
and see what happens?
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之後再看著辦?
02:09
That's what we did.
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我們就是那樣想的。
02:11
We jumped out of the house
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我們從大樓跳下,
02:14
instead of the fire.
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而不是等火燒上來。
02:17
North Korea is unimaginable.
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北韓的情況難以想像。
02:22
It's very hard for me
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對我來說,要回答
02:25
when people ask me what it feels like to live there.
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住北韓是什麼感覺很難。
02:30
To be honest,
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說實話,
02:32
I tell you:
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我可以告訴各位,
02:33
you can't even imagine it.
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你絕對想像不到。
02:39
The words in any language can't describe,
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沒有任何語言可以形容,
02:43
because it's a totally different planet,
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因為那是個完全不同的星球,
02:47
as you cannot imagine your life on Mars right now.
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就像你無法想像現在 要在火星上的生活一樣。
02:53
For example, the word "love" has only one meaning:
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比如說,「愛」只有一個意思:
02:59
love for the Dear Leader.
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就是愛偉大的領袖。
03:03
There's no concept of romantic love in North Korea.
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在北韓沒有浪漫的那種愛。
03:09
And if you don't know the words,
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如果你不認得某個字,
03:12
that means you don't understand the concept,
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也就是你不了解這個概念,
03:17
and therefore, you don't even realize that concept is even a possibility.
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因此你也不會理解, 這個概念甚至有可能存在。
03:25
Let me give you another example.
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讓我再舉一個例子。
03:29
Growing up in North Korea,
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在北韓長大,
03:31
we truly believed that our Dear Leader is an almighty god
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我們真心相信我們的 偉大領袖是萬能的神,
03:37
who can even read my thoughts.
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他甚至能看穿我在想什麼。
03:40
I was even afraid to think in North Korea.
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我在北韓甚至不敢思考。
03:45
We are told that he's starving for us,
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我們聽說他為我們挨餓,
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and he's working tirelessly for us,
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他日夜無休為我們工作,
03:50
and my heart just broke for him.
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而我就因此為他感到心痛。
03:53
When I escaped to South Korea,
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我逃到南韓之後,
03:56
people told me that he was actually a dictator,
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有人跟我說他其實是獨裁者,
04:00
he had cars,
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他有車,
04:02
many, many resorts,
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很多很多渡假別墅,
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and he had an ultraluxurious life.
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他的生活極為奢華。
04:08
And then I remember looking at a picture of him,
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我記得自己看著一張有他的照片,
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realizing for the first time
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第一次意識到
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that he is the largest guy in the picture.
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他是照片裡最大的那一隻。
04:19
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:22
And it hit me.
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這件事讓我大受打擊。
04:23
Finally, I realized he wasn't starving.
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那時我才終於了解,他沒有挨餓。
04:29
But I was never able to see that before,
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但我以前從來沒有辦法看清這些,
04:32
until someone told me that he was fat.
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直到有人跟我說他很胖我才懂。
04:36
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
04:37
Really, someone had to teach me that he was fat.
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真的,要有人教我說, 他這樣叫做胖。
04:42
If you have never practiced critical thinking,
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如果你沒學過批判性思考,
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then you simply see what you're told to see.
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你看到的就只會是別人跟你說的。
04:52
The biggest question also people ask me
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其他人對我提出的大哉問還有:
04:55
is: "Why is there no revolution inside North Korea?
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「為什麼北韓沒有革命?
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Are we dumb?
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我們傻嗎?
05:01
Why is there no revolution for 70 years of this oppression?"
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為什麼歷經 70 年壓迫 卻沒人發動革命?」
05:07
And I say:
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我回答:
05:10
If you don't know you're a slave,
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「如果你不知道自己是奴隸,
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if you don't know you're isolated or oppressed,
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不知道自己被與世隔絕、壓迫,
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how do you fight to be free?
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要怎麼為自由而戰?
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I mean, if you know you're isolated,
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我的意思是,如果你知道 自己被與世隔絕,
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that means you are not isolated.
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那就表示你並非真的與世隔絕。
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Not knowing is the true definition of isolation,
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不知道才是與世隔絕真正的定義,
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and that's why I never knew
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所以我從不知道
05:35
I was isolated when I was in North Korea.
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我在北韓是被與世隔絕。
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I literally thought I was in the center of the universe.
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我真的以為我們是在宇宙中心。
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So here is my idea worth spreading:
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我想要傳遞值得分享的想法是:
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a lot of people think
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很多人以為
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humans inherently know what is right and wrong,
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人類生來就能分辨是非對錯,
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the difference between justice and injustice,
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懂得正義與邪惡的差別,
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what we deserve and we don't deserve.
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我們值得被怎樣對待。
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I tell them: BS.
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我跟他們說:放屁。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
06:11
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
06:18
Everything,
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所有的事,
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everything must be taught,
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所有的事都得經過教導,
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including compassion.
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憐憫也是。
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If I see someone dying on the street right now,
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如果我現在看見有人 在路邊奄奄一息,
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I will do anything to save that person.
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我會不顧一切來救他。
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But when I was in North Korea,
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但我在北韓的時候,
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I saw people dying and dead on the streets.
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我會看著有人路死街頭,
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I felt nothing.
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而沒有任何感覺。
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Not because I'm a psychopath,
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不是因為我是心理病態,
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but because I never learned the concept of compassion.
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而是因為我從未學過憐憫的概念。
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Only, I felt compassion, empathy and sympathy in my heart
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只有在我的內心感受到 憐憫、同理和同情,
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after I learned the word "compassion" and the concept,
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我才學會「憐憫」 這個字和這個概念,
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and I feel them now.
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我現在有這些感覺了。
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Now I live in the United States as a free person.
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現在我住在美國,人身自由。
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(Applause)
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(掌聲)
07:17
Thank you.
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謝謝。
07:19
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
07:24
And recently,
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最近,
07:26
the leader of the free country, our President Trump,
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自由國度的領袖,我們的川普總統,
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met with my former god.
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和我以前的神會面。
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And he decided human rights is not important enough
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他認定,人權沒那麼重要,
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to include in his agendas,
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不需要排進議題裡,
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and he did not talk about it.
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所以他對此隻字不提。
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And it scares me.
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這嚇壞我了。
07:50
We live in a world right now
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我們現在所住的世界裡,
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where a dictator can be praised for executing his uncle,
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獨裁者處決伯父還能受到讚揚,
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for killing his half brother,
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他殺害同父異母的哥哥、
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killing thousands of North Koreans.
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殺害成千上萬名北韓人,
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And that was worthy of praise.
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還能夠得到讚揚。
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And also it made me think:
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這也讓我想,
08:14
perhaps we all need to be taught something new about freedom now.
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也許我們現在都需要學習 自由還有什麼新的涵義。
08:24
Freedom is fragile.
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自由很脆弱。
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I don't want to alarm you, but it is.
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我不想讓你受驚,但事實是如此。
08:33
It only took three generations
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只花了三個世代
08:36
to make North Korea into George Orwell's "1984."
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就讓北韓變成喬治.歐威爾 筆下的《一九八四》。
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It took only three generations.
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只花了三個世代。
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If we don't fight for human rights
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如果我們不為人權而戰,
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for the people who are oppressed right now who don't have a voice,
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不為受壓迫、無法發聲的人而戰,
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as free people here,
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身為自由的人,
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who will fight for us when we are not free?
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當我們不自由的時候, 誰會為我們而戰?
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Machines? Animals? I don't know.
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機器嗎?動物嗎?我不知道。
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I think it's wonderful that we care about climate change,
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我覺得能關心一些議題很美好,
像是氣候變遷、動物權益、性別平等
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animal rights, gender equality,
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09:19
all of these things.
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這類的事。
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The fact that we care about animals' rights,
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因為我們關心動物權益,
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that means that's how beautiful our heart is,
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也就代表了我們的心地有多善良,
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that we care about someone who cannot speak for themselves.
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我們關心無法為自己發聲的對象。
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And North Koreans right now cannot speak for themselves.
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北韓人民現在無法為自己發聲。
09:38
They don't have internet in the 21st century.
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身在 21 世紀的他們沒有網路可用。
09:42
We don't have electricity,
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我們沒有電,
09:45
and it is the darkest place on earth right now.
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那裡是現在地球上最暗的地方。
09:50
Now I want to say something to my fellow North Koreans
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現在我想告訴我在北韓
09:54
who are living in that darkness.
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活在黑暗之中的同胞。
09:58
They might not believe this,
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也許他們不會相信我,
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but I want to tell them that an alternative life is possible.
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但是我想告訴他們, 生活有其他可能。
10:04
Be free.
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可以活得自由。
10:07
From my experience,
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從我的經驗看來,
10:11
literally anything is possible.
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真的什麼事都有可能發生。
10:16
I was bought,
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我被人買走,
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I was sold as a slave.
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賣給別人當奴隸。
10:20
But now I'm here,
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但我現在在這裡,
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and that is why I believe in miracles.
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這也就是為什麼我相信奇蹟。
10:27
The one thing that I learned from history
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我從歷史上學到的一件事,
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is that nothing is forever in this world.
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就是世界上沒有什麼是永遠的。
10:35
And that is why we have every reason to be hopeful.
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而這也就是為什麼 我們無論如何都能懷抱希望。
10:41
Thank you.
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謝謝。
10:42
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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