Paul Tudor Jones II: Why we need to rethink capitalism

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翻译人员: Min WANG 校对人员: Zhiting Chen
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This is a story about capitalism.
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这是个关于资本主义的故事。
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It's a system I love
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我喜欢这个体系,
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because of the successes and opportunities it's afforded me and millions of others.
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因为它提供给每个人成功和机遇。
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I started in my 20s trading commodities, cotton in particular, in the pits,
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我在20多岁时开始在市场上做货物交易, 尤其是棉花,
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and if there was ever a free market free-for-all, this was it,
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如果曾经有一个对所有人都 免费的自由市场,那就是,
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where men wearing ties but acting like gladiators
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在那里穿着得体的人为了利益,
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fought literally and physically for a profit.
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像角斗士一样竭尽所能。
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Fortunately, I was good enough that by the time I was 30,
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幸运的是,30岁的时候表现很好,
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I was able to move into the upstairs world of money management,
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我步入了资金管理的上层社会,
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where I spent the next three decades as a global macro trader.
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我花了接下来的30年 做一名环球宏观交易商。
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And over that time, I've seen a lot of crazy things in the markets,
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在那段时间里,我看到了 市场里的许多疯狂的事情,
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and I've traded a lot of crazy manias.
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我做了许多狂热的投机。
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And unfortunately,
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不幸的是,
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I'm sad to report that right now we might be in the grips
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我很难过地说 目前我可能正处于
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of one of the most disastrous, certainly of my career,
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我职业生涯最灾难性的 一个阶段的关键时刻,
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and one consistent takeaway is manias never end well.
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一个永恒的教训就是 投机狂热不会善终。
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Now, over the past 50 years,
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在过去的50年里,
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we as a society have come to view our companies and corporations
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关于如何评价我们的公司和企业
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in a very narrow, almost monomaniacal fashion
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我们这个社会以 非常狭隘,近乎偏执的方式
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with regard to how we value them,
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看待它们,
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and we have put so much emphasis on profits,
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我们对利润,
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on short-term quarterly earnings and share prices,
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对短期季度盈利和股价强调太多了,
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at the exclusion of all else.
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无视其他一切。
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It's like we've ripped the humanity out of our companies.
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仿佛我们的公司已经没有了人性。
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Now, we don't do that -- conveniently reduce something
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现在我们不这么做了-- 适当地减少一些东西,
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to a set of numbers that you can play with like Lego toys --
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减少到你可以像玩乐高玩具一样参与--
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we don't do that in our individual life.
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正如我们在各自的生活中 并不是这么做的。
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We don't treat somebody or value them
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我们没有基于人们的 收入和信用积分,
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based on their monthly income or their credit score,
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来对待或评价他们,
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but we have this double standard
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但是我们用这种双重标准,
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when it comes to the way that we value our businesses,
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来评价我们的公司,
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and you know what?
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你知道吗?
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It's threatening the very underpinnings of our society.
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它威胁到我们的社会基础。
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And here's how you'll see.
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这些就是你们看到的。
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This chart is corporate profit margins going back 40 years
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这个图表是40年来的企业利润率,
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as a percentage of revenues,
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以收入的百分比形式,
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and you can see that we're at a 40-year high of 12.5 percent.
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你可以看到我们处于 40年来得最高点,利润高达12.5%。
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Now, hooray if you're a shareholder,
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如果你是股东,万岁!
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but if you're the other side of that, and you're the average American worker,
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但是如果你是另一边, 普通的美国工人,
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then you can see it's not such a good thing.
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你会发现这并不是什么好事情。
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["U.S. Share of Income Going to Labor vs. CEO-to-Worker Compensation Ratio"]
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["美国工人劳动收入份额 vs. CEO 对工人的补偿比例"]
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Now, higher profit margins do not increase societal wealth.
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更高的利润率没有提高社会财富。
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What they actually do is they exacerbate income inequality,
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仅仅是加剧了收入的不平等,
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and that's not a good thing.
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这不是个好事情。
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But intuitively, that makes sense, right?
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但是直觉上,这是有道理的,对吧?
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Because if the top 10 percent of American families
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因为如果最富的10%的美国家庭
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own 90 percent of the stocks,
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拥有90%的股份,
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as they take a greater share of corporate profits,
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他们拿走了公司利润的大部分,
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then there's less wealth left for the rest of society.
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然后很少的部分留给了社会其他人。
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Again, income inequality is not a good thing.
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再一次,收入的不平等不是个好事情。
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This next chart, made by The Equality Trust,
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这是下一个图表,由Equality Trust制作,
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shows 21 countries from Austria to Japan to New Zealand.
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展示了21个国家, 从澳大利亚到日本到新西兰。
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On the horizontal axis is income inequality.
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横轴代表收入不平等程度。
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The further to the right you go, the greater the income inequality.
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越往右,收入越不平等。
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On the vertical axis are nine social and health metrics.
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竖轴代表9个社会和健康的度量。
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The more you go up that, the worse the problems are,
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越往上,问题越严重,
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and those metrics include life expectancy, teenage pregnancy, literacy,
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这些度量包括寿命, 未成年人怀孕,读写能力,
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social mobility, just to name a few.
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社会流动性,等等。
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Now, those of you in the audience who are Americans may wonder,
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在座的美国人可能会想知道,
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well, where does the United States rank?
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美国排在什么位置?
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Where does it lie on that chart?
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美国在图表里什么地方?
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And guess what?
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知道吗?
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We're literally off the chart.
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我们实际上在图表之外。
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Yes, that's us,
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对的,这就是我们,
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with the greatest income inequality
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拥有最大的收入不平等
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and the greatest social problems, according to those metrics.
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以及根据这些度量标准显示, 拥有最严重的社会问题。
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Now, here's a macro forecast that's easy to make,
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这是很容易做的一个宏观预测,
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and that's, that gap between the wealthiest and the poorest,
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这就是最富有与最贫穷之间的鸿沟,
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it will get closed.
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将被拉近。
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History always does it.
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历史总是这么做。
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It typically happens in one of three ways:
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它以典型的3种方式之一发生:
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either through revolution, higher taxes, or wars.
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革命,更高的赋税或是战争。
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None of those are on my bucket list.
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没有一个在我的遗愿清单上。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
04:16
Now, there's another way to do it,
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有另一种方法实现它,
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and that's by increasing justness in corporate behavior,
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那就是通过提高企业行为的公正性,
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but the way that we're operating right now,
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但是我们目前运作的方式,
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that would require a tremendous change in behavior,
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需要在行为上做出巨大改变,
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and like an addict trying to kick a habit,
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就像成瘾之后尝试戒掉,
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the first step is to acknowledge that you have a problem.
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第一步就是承认你出了问题。
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And let me just say, this profits mania that we're on
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让我来说,我们追逐利润的狂热
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is so deeply entrenched
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已经如此根深蒂固,
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that we don't even realize how we're harming society.
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我们甚至没有觉察到 我们如何损害着社会。
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Here's a small but startling example of exactly how we're doing that:
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这是一个关于我们所作所为的 小的却令人吃惊地例子:
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this chart shows corporate giving
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这个图表显示在过去30年里企业捐献
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as a percentage of profits, not revenues, over the last 30 years.
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的利润百分数,不是收入百分数。
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Juxtapose that to the earlier chart of corporate profit margins,
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将它与先前的企业 利润率图表并列,
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and I ask you, does that feel right?
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我问你,这个对吗?
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In all fairness, when I started writing this, I thought,
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平心而论,当我开始 写这个,我想,
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"Oh wow, what does my company, what does Tudor do?"
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“”哇,我的公司做了什么, Tudor做了什么?“
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And I realized we give one percent of corporate profits
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我发现我们每年只将企业利润的1%
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to charity every year.
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捐给慈善机构。
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And I'm supposed to be a philanthropist.
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我被称为慈善家。
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When I realized that, I literally wanted to throw up.
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当我发现这个事实的时候, 我简直想吐。
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But the point is, this mania is so deeply entrenched
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但关键是,这种 狂热如此根深蒂固,
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that well-intentioned people like myself don't even realize that we're part of it.
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以致怀有像我一样好意的人们甚至 没有觉察我们是其中一部分。
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Now, we're not going to change corporate behavior
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仅仅通过提高企业慈善或慈善捐赠
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by simply increasing corporate philanthropy or charitable contributions.
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不会改变企业行为。
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And oh, by the way, we've since quadrupled that,
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噢,顺便说一下,我们已经把 捐赠变成原来的4倍了,
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but -- (Applause) -- Please.
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但是--(掌声)-谢谢。
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But we can do it by driving more just behavior.
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但是我们能够通过运转 更公正的行为来完成。
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And one way to do it is actually trusting
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其中一种方法实际就是相信
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the system that got us here in the first place,
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这个最初带领我们走到现在的体系,
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and that's the free market system.
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就是这个自由市场体系。
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About a year ago, some friends of mine and I
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大约一年前,我的我的一些朋友
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started a not-for-profit called Just Capital.
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成立了一个叫做 Just Capital的公益公司。
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Its mission is very simple:
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任务很简单:
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to help companies and corporations
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帮助公司和企业
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learn how to operate in a more just fashion by using the public's input
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学习如何以一个更公正的 模式运作,通过使用公共参与
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to define exactly what the criteria are for just corporate behavior.
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来准确定义公正企业行为的准则。
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Now, right now, there's no widely accepted standard
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目前,没有广泛接受的
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that a company or corporation can follow, and that's where Just Capital comes in,
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公司或企业能够遵守的标准, 这就是为什么Just Capital 成立了,
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because beginning this year and every year we'll be conducting a nationwide survey
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因为从今年开始, 每年我们将做全国性的调查
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of a representative sample of 20,000 Americans
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选用具有代表性的2万美国人的样本,
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to find out exactly what they think
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来发现他们认为的
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are the criteria for justness in corporate behavior.
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企业行为公正的准则。
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Now, this is a model that's going to start in the United States
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这是将在美国开始的模型,
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but can be expanded anywhere around the globe,
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但是可以扩展到全球任何地方,
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and maybe we'll find out
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或许我们能找出
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that the most important thing for the public
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对公众最重要的事,
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is that we create living wage jobs, or make healthy products,
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也许就是我们创造足以谋生的 工作岗位或者生产健康的产品,
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or help, not harm, the environment.
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或是保护而不是伤害环境。
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At Just Capital, we don't know, and it's not for us to decide.
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在 Just Capital,我们不知道, 也不是我们能决定的。
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We're but messengers,
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我们仅仅是信使,
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but we have 100 percent confidence and faith in the American public
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但是我们有100%的信心, 相信美国大众
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to get it right.
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能做对。
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So we'll release the findings this September for the first time,
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所以我们将在9月份第一次发布这些发现,
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and then next year, we'll poll again,
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然后明年,我们再做民意测验,
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and we'll take the additive step this time
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这次我们将更近一步,
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of ranking the 1,000 largest U.S. companies
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排出美国最大的1000个公司,
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from number one to number 1,000 and everything in between.
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从第1到1000,以及这之间的。
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We're calling it the Just Index,
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我们称之为公正指数,
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and remember, we're an independent not-for-profit with no bias,
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记住我们是一个独立的 公益的没有偏见的公司,
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and we will be giving the American public a voice.
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我们将给美国大众发声。
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And maybe over time, we'll find out that as people come to know
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或许一段时间后,我们 会发现人们开始知道
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which companies are the most just,
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哪些公司最公正,
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human and economic resources will be driven towards them,
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人力和经济资源会奔它们而去,
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and they'll become the most prosperous
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它们会成为最繁荣的公司,
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and help our country be the most prosperous.
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并帮我们的国家成为最繁荣的国家。
08:07
Now, capitalism has been responsible for every major innovation
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资本主义有责任担负起每一个大变革,
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that's made this world a more inspiring and wonderful place to live in.
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使我们的世界成为更 激励人心和美好的居住地。
08:16
Capitalism has to be based on justice.
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资本主义必须以公正为根基。
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It has to be, and now more than ever,
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必须这样,如今更甚从前,
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with economic divisions growing wider every day.
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随着经济部门的逐日壮大。
08:25
It's estimated that 47 percent of American workers
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据估计,大约47%的美国工人
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can be displaced in the next 20 years.
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在下一个20年里被取代。
08:31
I'm not against progress.
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我不反对发展。
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I want the driverless car and the jet pack just like everyone else.
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我像其他人一样想要 无人驾驶的车和飞行器。
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But I'm pleading for recognition that with increased wealth and profits
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但是我恳求一个认知, 就是财富和利润的增长
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has to come greater corporate social responsibility.
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应该伴随更大的企业社会责任。
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"If justice is removed," said Adam Smith, the father of capitalism,
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”如果公正消失了,“ 资本主义之父 Adam Smith 说,
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"the great, the immense fabric of human society must in a moment
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”巨大的人类社会组织一定瞬间
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crumble into atoms."
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崩溃成碎片“。
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Now, when I was young, and there was a problem,
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当我年轻的时候,有一个问题,
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my mama used to always sigh and shake her head and say,
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我的母亲过去常常叹息 并且摇着她的头说,
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"Have mercy, have mercy."
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”要有怜悯之心“
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Now's not the time for us, for the rest of us to show them mercy.
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现在不是我们怜悯其他人的时候。
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The time is now for us to show them fairness,
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而是我们向他们展示公正的时候,
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and we can do that, you and I,
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我们能够做到,你和我,
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by starting where we work, in the businesses that we operate in.
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从我们工作的公司开始。
09:33
And when we put justness on par with profits,
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当我们把公正看得和利润一样重要的时候,
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we'll get the most wonderful thing in all the world.
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我们就会得到世上最美好的东西。
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We'll take back our humanity.
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我们会赎回我们的人性。
09:43
Thank you.
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谢谢
09:46
(Applause)
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