Andrew Mwenda: Let's take a new look at African aid

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翻译人员: Tait Jiang 校对人员: Wang Qian
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I am very, very happy to be amidst some of the most --
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我非常非常的高兴能和这么多……
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the lights are really disturbing my eyes
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这些灯光太刺眼了
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and they're reflecting on my glasses.
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它们反射到我的镜片上了
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I am very happy and honored to be amidst
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我非常高兴且荣幸和
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very, very innovative and intelligent people.
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非常聪明、有创造力的人们在一起
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I have listened to the three previous speakers,
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在此之前我已经听了3个人的演讲了
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and guess what happened?
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猜一下发生了什么事?
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Every single thing I planned to say, they have said it here,
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每一个我想说的事情都已经被他们说完了
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and it looks and sounds like I have nothing else to say.
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看上去我好象没有什么可以说的了
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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But there is a saying in my culture
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但是在我的祖国有一句谚语
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that if a bud leaves a tree without saying something,
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如果一朵花一句话也不说就离开了树干
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that bud is a young one.
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那朵花一定还稚嫩
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So, I will -- since I am not young and am very old,
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所以,既然我已不再稚嫩
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I still will say something.
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我还是要说一点的
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We are hosting this conference at a very opportune moment,
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我们正在一个非常合时宜的时候开这个会
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because another conference is taking place in Berlin.
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因为另一个会议正在柏林召开
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It is the G8 Summit.
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这就是八国首脑峰会
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The G8 Summit proposes that the solution to Africa's problems
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G8峰会建议,解决非洲问题的办法
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should be a massive increase in aid,
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应该是继续加大对非洲的援助
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something akin to the Marshall Plan.
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这和当年的马歇尔计划很相似
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Unfortunately, I personally do not believe in the Marshall Plan.
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不幸的是,我个人并不相信马歇尔计划
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One, because the benefits of the Marshall Plan have been overstated.
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首先,马歇尔计划的成果被夸大了
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Its largest recipients were Germany and France,
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它最大的受援国是德国和法国
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and it was only 2.5 percent of their GDP.
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但援助只占了他们GDP的2.5%
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An average African country receives foreign aid
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平均每个非洲国家接受的外国援助
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to the tune of 13, 15 percent of its GDP,
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竟达到了他们GDP的13%-15%那么多
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and that is an unprecedented transfer of financial resources
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这是一个史无前例的金融资源大迁移
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from rich countries to poor countries.
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从富裕的国家到贫穷的国家
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But I want to say that there are two things we need to connect.
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但是我想说的是,有两件事情我们需要提及
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How the media covers Africa in the West, and the consequences of that.
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西方媒体是如何报道非洲和那些援助成果的
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By displaying despair, helplessness and hopelessness,
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通过播放绝望和无助的画面
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the media is telling the truth about Africa, and nothing but the truth.
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媒体是在展示非洲的真实情况,非常真实
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However, the media is not telling us the whole truth.
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然而,媒体没有告诉我们所有的真实情况
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Because despair, civil war, hunger and famine,
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因为绝望、内战、饥荒
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although they're part and parcel of our African reality,
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虽然是我们非洲的真实的一部分
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they are not the only reality.
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但这些不是全部
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And secondly, they are the smallest reality.
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而且,它们只是其中很小的一部分
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Africa has 53 nations.
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非洲有53个国家
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We have civil wars only in six countries,
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只有6个国家有内战
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which means that the media are covering only six countries.
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那就说明,媒体只报道了这6个国家
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Africa has immense opportunities that never navigate
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非洲蕴含着的巨大的机遇却从来没有被报道过
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through the web of despair and helplessness
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那些交织着绝望和无助的报道
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that the Western media largely presents to its audience.
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西方媒体却大量的向他们的听众传递
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But the effect of that presentation is, it appeals to sympathy.
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但是那些报道的作用只是祈求同情
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It appeals to pity. It appeals to something called charity.
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祈求怜悯,祈求那些所谓的援助
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And, as a consequence, the Western view
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这样的结果是,西方人关于
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of Africa's economic dilemma is framed wrongly.
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“非洲经济困境”的错误观念被建立起来了
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The wrong framing is a product of thinking
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这种观念的建立是一味的去联想
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that Africa is a place of despair.
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一个绝望的非洲的结果
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What should we do with it? We should give food to the hungry.
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我们该怎么办?我们应该给饥饿的人们食物
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We should deliver medicines to those who are ill.
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我们应该给生病的人送去医药
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We should send peacekeeping troops
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我们应该派维和部队
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to serve those who are facing a civil war.
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去拯救那些正在遭遇内战的人民
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And in the process, Africa has been stripped of self-initiative.
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在这个过程中,非洲已经丧失了自己的主动性
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I want to say that it is important to recognize
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我想说,重要的是认识到
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that Africa has fundamental weaknesses.
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非洲确实有其根本性的不足
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But equally, it has opportunities and a lot of potential.
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但是同时,也有很多的发展潜力
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We need to reframe the challenge that is facing Africa,
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我们需要重新定位非洲正面临的考验
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from a challenge of despair,
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从充满绝望的考验
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which is called poverty reduction,
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它被叫做减少贫困
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to a challenge of hope.
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到充满希望的考验
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We frame it as a challenge of hope, and that is worth creation.
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我们重新定义它为一个充满希望的考验,这是值得的
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The challenge facing all those who are interested in Africa
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所有关心非洲的人们面对着这个考验
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is not the challenge of reducing poverty.
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这不再是一个减少贫困的考验
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It should be a challenge of creating wealth.
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而应该是一个创造财富的考验
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Once we change those two things --
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一旦我们交换了这两个概念
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if you say the Africans are poor and they need poverty reduction,
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如果你说“非洲很穷,他们需要脱贫”
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you have the international cartel of good intentions
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你的愿望非常美好
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moving onto the continent, with what?
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但是带点什么去非洲呢
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Medicines for the poor, food relief for those who are hungry,
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给穷人带去药品,给饥饿的人带去食物
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and peacekeepers for those who are facing civil war.
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给遭受内战的人送去维和部队
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And in the process, none of these things really are productive
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所有这些都没有从根本上解决问题
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because you are treating the symptoms, not the causes
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因为对于非洲的那些基本问题
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of Africa's fundamental problems.
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这些只治标不治本
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Sending somebody to school and giving them medicines,
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送一些人去学校,给他们药品
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ladies and gentlemen, does not create wealth for them.
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各位,这些不能给他们创造财富
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Wealth is a function of income, and income comes from you finding
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稳定的收入才是致富的根本,而稳定的收入来自于
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a profitable trading opportunity or a well-paying job.
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一个能获利的贸易机会或者一份稳定的工作
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Now, once we begin to talk about wealth creation in Africa,
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现在,我们开始谈到如何让非洲富裕起来
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our second challenge will be,
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我们的下一个挑战将是
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who are the wealth-creating agents in any society?
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谁是社会上创造财富的代理人
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They are entrepreneurs. [Unclear] told us they are always
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是企业家,现实告诉我们他们一直
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about four percent of the population, but 16 percent are imitators.
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只占世界人口的4%,但是16%不是真正意义上的企业家
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But they also succeed at the job of entrepreneurship.
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但他们同样可以胜任企业家这个工作
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So, where should we be putting the money?
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所以,我们应该把钱用在什么地方?
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We need to put money where it can productively grow.
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我们需要把钱用在可以创造财富的地方
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Support private investment in Africa, both domestic and foreign.
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支持在非洲的私人投资,不管是国内的还是国外的
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Support research institutions,
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支持科研机构
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because knowledge is an important part of wealth creation.
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因为知识是创造财富不可或缺的一部分
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But what is the international aid community doing with Africa today?
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但是那些国际援助组织现在在非洲做些什么呢?
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They are throwing large sums of money for primary health,
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他们把大把的钞票花在了基础医疗上
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for primary education, for food relief.
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基础教育上和粮食救济上
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The entire continent has been turned into
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整个非洲大陆已经变成了
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a place of despair, in need of charity.
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一个绝望和坐等慈善的地方
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Ladies and gentlemen, can any one of you tell me
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女士们先生们,你们谁能告诉我
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a neighbor, a friend, a relative that you know,
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你的邻居、朋友和亲人
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who became rich by receiving charity?
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哪一个人是通过接受善款致富的
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By holding the begging bowl and receiving alms?
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是通过抱着讨饭碗接受别人的施舍而致富的
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Does any one of you in the audience have that person?
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你们谁听说过有这样的例子
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Does any one of you know a country that developed because of
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你们谁听说过一个国家是通过
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the generosity and kindness of another?
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他国的善良和慷慨而发展起来的?
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Well, since I'm not seeing the hand,
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那好,既然我没有看到有人举手
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it appears that what I'm stating is true.
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那说明我说的是事实
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(Bono: Yes!)
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Bono:对
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Andrew Mwenda: I can see Bono says he knows the country.
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Andrew Mwenda:我听到Bono说他知道有这样的国家
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Which country is that?
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哪个国家?
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(Bono: It's an Irish land.)
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Bono:这是个爱尔兰名字
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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(Bono: [unclear])
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(貌似在打电话)
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AM: Thank you very much. But let me tell you this.
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非常感谢,还是让我来告诉你们吧
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External actors can only present to you an opportunity.
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外人只能给你一个机会
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The ability to utilize that opportunity and turn it into an advantage
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能否抓住这个机会,且把它变成一个优势
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depends on your internal capacity.
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取决于你的个人能力
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Africa has received many opportunities.
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非洲曾有过很多机会
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Many of them we haven't benefited much.
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但其中的大部分我们没有从中获益良多
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Why? Because we lack the internal, institutional framework
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为什么?因为我们缺少相应的体制框架
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and policy framework that can make it possible for us
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和政策框架来帮助我们
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to benefit from our external relations. I'll give you an example.
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从我们的对外关系中获利。我可以给你们一个例子
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Under the Cotonou Agreement,
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根据科托努协定
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formerly known as the Lome Convention,
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其前身是洛美协定
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African countries have been given an opportunity by Europe
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欧洲曾给过非洲一个很好的机会
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to export goods, duty-free, to the European Union market.
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可免关税出口货物到欧盟市场
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My own country, Uganda, has a quota to export 50,000 metric tons
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我的祖国,乌干达,得到个机会可以出口5万吨
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of sugar to the European Union market.
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蔗糖到欧盟市场
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We haven't exported one kilogram yet.
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我们连一公斤都没有出口
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We import 50,000 metric tons of sugar from Brazil and Cuba.
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我们反而从巴西和古巴进口了5万吨的蔗糖
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Secondly, under the beef protocol of that agreement,
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第二,按照这个协定书上的牛肉协定
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African countries that produce beef
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非洲产牛肉的国家
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have quotas to export beef duty-free to the European Union market.
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可以有一定的配额免关税出口牛肉到欧盟市场
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None of those countries, including Africa's most successful nation, Botswana,
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没有任何一个国家,包括非洲最成功的国家博茨瓦纳在内
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has ever met its quota.
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用完了这些配额
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So, I want to argue today that the fundamental source of Africa's
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所以我想说的是,非洲从根本上
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inability to engage the rest of the world
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没有能力和其他国家
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in a more productive relationship
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建立一种高效的合作关系
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is because it has a poor institutional and policy framework.
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是因为它没有好的体制和政策框架
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And all forms of intervention need support,
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各种形式的变革都需要支持
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the evolution of the kinds of institutions that create wealth,
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发展能创造财富的机构
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the kinds of institutions that increase productivity.
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和能提高生产效率的机构
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How do we begin to do that, and why is aid the bad instrument?
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我们应该怎么做呢?为什么援助不是一件好事呢?
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Aid is the bad instrument, and do you know why?
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你们知道为什么援助不是一件好事吗?
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Because all governments across the world need money to survive.
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因为所有政府都需要钱去维持
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Money is needed for a simple thing like keeping law and order.
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想维持法律公正和社会秩序需要钱
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You have to pay the army and the police to show law and order.
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建立军队和警察去维护法律和秩序也需要钱
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And because many of our governments are quite dictatorial,
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同时因为大多数的政府都比较独裁
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they need really to have the army clobber the opposition.
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他们真正需要的是用军队去镇压反对派
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The second thing you need to do is pay your political hangers-on.
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接着各种政治活动也需要花钱
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Why should people support their government?
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为什么人们应该去支持他们的政府?
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Well, because it gives them good, paying jobs,
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那是因为政府能给他们一份好工作
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or, in many African countries, unofficial opportunities
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在很多非洲国家,暗地里
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to profit from corruption.
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可以通过腐败获利
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The fact is no government in the world,
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事实是,世界上没有一个政府
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with the exception of a few, like that of Idi Amin,
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除了少数像伊迪阿明那样的以外
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can seek to depend entirely on force as an instrument of rule.
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可以选择完全用武力来进行统治
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Many countries in the [unclear], they need legitimacy.
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世界上的很多国家需要让他们的统治合法化
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To get legitimacy, governments often need to deliver things like primary education,
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为此,政府们一般需要提供基础教育
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primary health, roads, build hospitals and clinics.
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基础医疗、道路、修建医院和诊所
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If the government's fiscal survival
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一个政府的财务状况如何
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depends on it having to raise money from its own people,
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取决于它是否能从人民那里获得更多的钱
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such a government is driven by self-interest
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这样的被利益驱动的政府
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to govern in a more enlightened fashion.
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以一种更加开明的方式进行统治
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It will sit with those who create wealth.
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它会和那些能创造财富的人坐下来
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Talk to them about the kind of policies and institutions
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和他们讨论什么样的政策和体制
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that are necessary for them to expand a scale and scope of business
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是他们继续扩大生意必须的
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so that it can collect more tax revenues from them.
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这样它就能从他们那里获得更多的税收收入
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The problem with the African continent
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非洲的问题
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and the problem with the aid industry
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由援助引起的问题是
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is that it has distorted the structure of incentives
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它扭曲了自我激励体系
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facing the governments in Africa.
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非洲各国都要面对这个问题
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The productive margin in our governments' search for revenue
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我们政府财政收入的主要来源
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does not lie in the domestic economy,
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并不是来自于国内经济
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it lies with international donors.
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而是来自于国际援助
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Rather than sit with Ugandan --
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与其和乌干达的……
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(Applause) --
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(掌声)
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rather than sit with Ugandan entrepreneurs,
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与其和乌干达的企业家坐下来谈
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Ghanaian businessmen, South African enterprising leaders,
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和加纳的商人,南非的企业领袖谈
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our governments find it more productive
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我们的政府发现倒不如
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to talk to the IMF and the World Bank.
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和世界货币基金组织和世界银行谈来的合算
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I can tell you, even if you have ten Ph.Ds.,
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我想说,就算你有10个博士学位
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you can never beat Bill Gates in understanding the computer industry.
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你也不可能比比尔盖茨更了解计算机行业
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Why? Because the knowledge that is required for you to understand
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为什么?因为你需要去懂得的那些知识
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the incentives necessary to expand a business --
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扩大生意需要的原动力
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it requires that you listen to the people, the private sector actors in that industry.
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都需要你去倾听那些在这个行业中的人和机构怎么说的
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Governments in Africa have therefore been given an opportunity,
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非洲的各政府因此从国际上得到了一个机会
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by the international community, to avoid building
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以避免去和自己的国民
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productive arrangements with your own citizens,
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建立一个有成效的协议
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and therefore allowed to begin endless negotiations with the IMF
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因此允许开始和国际货币基金组织的无休止的谈判
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and the World Bank, and then it is the IMF and the World Bank
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还有世界银行,然后国际货币基金组织和世界银行
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that tell them what its citizens need.
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告诉各政府他们的国民需要什么?
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In the process, we, the African people, have been sidelined
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在这整个过程中,非洲人民完全被忽略掉了
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from the policy-making, policy-orientation, and policy-
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从我们国家的政策的制定、政策的取向一直到
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implementation process in our countries.
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政策的执行过程中被忽略掉了
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We have limited input, because he who pays the piper calls the tune.
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我们必须限制投入,因为发号施令的是花了钱的人
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The IMF, the World Bank, and the cartel of good intentions in the world
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国际货币基金组织、世界银行和全世界的好心人
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has taken over our rights as citizens,
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已经剥夺了我们作为公民的权利
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and therefore what our governments are doing, because they depend on aid,
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因为政府依赖于援助,因此他们正在做的是
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is to listen to international creditors rather than their own citizens.
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去听从那些国际债权人而不是他们的国民
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But I want to put a caveat on my argument,
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但是我想补充说明一点
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and that caveat is that it is not true that aid is always destructive.
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援助并不都是破坏性的
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Some aid may have built a hospital, fed a hungry village.
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一些援助用来建立医院,救济饥饿的村民
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It may have built a road, and that road
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修建了道路,那道路
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may have served a very good role.
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或许已经发挥了很好的作用
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The mistake of the international aid industry
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国际援助的错误是
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is to pick these isolated incidents of success,
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看中那些孤立的成功例子
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generalize them, pour billions and trillions of dollars into them,
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进行推广,再投成千上万的钱进去
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and then spread them across the whole world,
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然后把它们传播到世界各地
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ignoring the specific and unique circumstances in a given village,
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忽略了被援助的每一个村庄的情况都是不同的
12:08
the skills, the practices, the norms and habits
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技能、实践、规范和习惯
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that allowed that small aid project to succeed --
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才是让援助计划成功的关键
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like in Sauri village, in Kenya, where Jeffrey Sachs is working --
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就像Jeffrey Sachs工作的那个肯尼亚的绍里村
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and therefore generalize this experience
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推广这样的经验
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as the experience of everybody.
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让它变成每个人都能用的经验
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Aid increases the resources available to governments,
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援助增加了政府的可用资源
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and that makes working in a government the most profitable thing
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让在政府工作成为最有利可图的事情
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you can have, as a person in Africa seeking a career.
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特别是对于一个正在找工作的非洲人来说
12:35
By increasing the political attractiveness of the state,
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由于国家的政治吸引力的增加
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especially in our ethnically fragmented societies in Africa,
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特别是非洲这样一个种族分散的社会
12:43
aid tends to accentuate ethnic tensions
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援助往往加剧了种族关系紧张
12:46
as every single ethnic group now begins struggling to enter the state
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每个种族都看是争先恐后的加入那些国家
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in order to get access to the foreign aid pie.
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就为了获得外国援助
12:55
Ladies and gentlemen, the most enterprising people in Africa
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女士们先生们,非洲最有事业心的人
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cannot find opportunities to trade and to work in the private sector
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也不能发现进行私营贸易和工作的机会
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because the institutional and policy environment is hostile to business.
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因为体制和政策环境都是反对做生意的
13:08
Governments are not changing it. Why?
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政府不去改变这些,这是为什么?
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Because they don't need to talk to their own citizens.
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因为他们不需要去和他们的国民谈
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They talk to international donors.
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他们只和国际捐助人谈
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So, the most enterprising Africans end up going to work for government,
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所以有事业心的非洲人最终只得为政府工作
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and that has increased the political tensions in our countries
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而这已经增加了我们国家的政治紧张
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precisely because we depend on aid.
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正式因为我们依赖于援助
13:28
I also want to say that it is important for us to
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我想说在过去的50年里
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note that, over the last 50 years, Africa has been receiving increasing aid
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非洲收到的来自国际上的越来越多的援助
13:36
from the international community,
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对我们确实非常重要
13:38
in the form of technical assistance, and financial aid,
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包括技术援助,经济援助
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and all other forms of aid.
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及其他各种援助
13:43
Between 1960 and 2003, our continent received 600 billion dollars of aid,
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在1960到2003年间,非洲收到了6千亿美元的援助
13:53
and we are still told that there is a lot of poverty in Africa.
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我们还是被告知非洲仍然贫困
13:56
Where has all the aid gone?
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这些援助都去哪里了?
13:59
I want to use the example of my own country, called Uganda,
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我想用我自己的国家——乌干达,来作为一个例子
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and the kind of structure of incentives that aid has brought there.
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来看收到的援助是怎么花掉的
14:08
In the 2006-2007 budget, expected revenue: 2.5 trillion shillings.
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在2006到2007年的财政预算里,预期收益是2.5兆先令
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The expected foreign aid: 1.9 trillion.
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预期外国援助1.9兆先令
14:17
Uganda's recurrent expenditure -- by recurrent what do I mean?
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乌干达的日常开支,日常开支的意思是
14:21
Hand-to-mouth is 2.6 trillion.
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只用来糊口,需要2.6兆先令
14:25
Why does the government of Uganda budget spend 110 percent
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为什么乌干达政府预算花掉它的110%的
14:30
of its own revenue?
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自己的收入
14:31
It's because there's somebody there called foreign aid, who contributes for it.
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因为有国际援助在帮忙
14:36
But this shows you that the government of Uganda
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但是这里你看到的乌干达政府
14:38
is not committed to spending its own revenue
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没有打算用自己的收入
14:42
to invest in productive investments,
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去做有益的投资
14:44
but rather it devotes this revenue
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而是用这笔钱
14:46
to paying structure of public expenditure.
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去作为公共机构的支出
14:50
Public administration, which is largely patronage, takes 690 billion.
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公共行政,是大头,用了6900亿
14:55
The military, 380 billion.
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军事,3800亿
14:57
Agriculture, which employs 18 percent of our poverty-stricken citizens,
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18%的非常贫困的国民从事的农业
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takes only 18 billion.
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却只花了180亿
15:05
Trade and industry takes 43 billion.
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贸易与工业花了430亿
15:09
And let me show you, what does public expenditure --
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然我来告诉你什么是公共支出
15:13
rather, public administration expenditure -- in Uganda constitute?
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在乌干达倒不如说是公共财政支出
15:17
There you go. 70 cabinet ministers, 114 presidential advisers,
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我们来看,70个内阁成员,114个总统顾问
15:23
by the way, who never see the president, except on television.
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顺便说一下,除了在电视上,谁也没有见过总统
15:26
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
15:29
(Applause)
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(掌声)
15:34
And when they see him physically, it is at public functions like this,
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当你真的看到他了,那一定是在这样的公共场合
15:39
and even there, it is him who advises them.
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即便如此,那也是他们建议的
15:43
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
15:45
We have 81 units of local government.
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我们的地方政府有81个部门
15:48
Each local government is organized like the central government --
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每一个地方政府的组织结构都和中央政府一样
15:50
a bureaucracy, a cabinet, a parliament,
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一个行政系统,一个内阁,一个国会
15:52
and so many jobs for the political hangers-on.
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政府部门提供了这么多的工作岗位
15:55
There were 56, and when our president wanted to
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原来有56个行政区,当我们的总统想要去
15:58
amend the constitution and remove term limits,
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修改宪法除去他任期限制的时候
16:01
he had to create 25 new districts, and now there are 81.
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他又增加了25个行政区,现在有81个了
16:05
Three hundred thirty-three members of parliament.
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333个国会议员
16:07
You need Wembley Stadium to host our parliament.
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你需要一个“温布利体育场”来看我们的国会
16:09
One hundred thirty-four commissions
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134个委员会
16:11
and semi-autonomous government bodies,
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和半自治的政府机关
16:16
all of which have directors and the cars. And the final thing,
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所有的这些机构都需要负责人和汽车,最后
16:20
this is addressed to Mr. Bono. In his work, he may help us on this.
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让我们转向Bono先生,他最近的工作或许能帮助我们
16:24
A recent government of Uganda study found
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一个最近的对于乌干达政府的研究显示
16:26
that there are 3,000 four-wheel drive motor vehicles
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有3000辆汽车
16:30
at the Minister of Health headquarters.
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在卫生部总部被使用
16:32
Uganda has 961 sub-counties, each of them with a dispensary,
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乌干达有961个县,每个县都有一个医务室
16:37
none of which has an ambulance.
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他们中没有一个有救护车
16:39
So, the four-wheel drive vehicles at the headquarters
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那些在总部的汽车
16:42
drive the ministers, the permanent secretaries, the bureaucrats
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用来载部长、秘书、官僚
16:45
and the international aid bureaucrats who work in aid projects,
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和做援助项目的国际援助官僚
16:48
while the poor die without ambulances and medicine.
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而穷人因为没有救护车和医药而死去
16:54
Finally, I want to say that before I came to speak here,
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最后,我想说在我来这里演讲之前
16:58
I was told that the principle of TEDGlobal
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我被告知了TEDGlobal的原则
17:02
is that the good speech should be like a miniskirt.
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那就是,一个优秀的演讲应该像迷你裙
17:05
It should be short enough to arouse interest,
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它必须短到能充分激起大家的兴趣
17:07
but long enough to cover the subject.
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长到能遮住应该被遮的地方
17:09
I hope I have achieved that.
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我希望我做到了
17:10
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
17:11
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢
17:12
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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