Andrew Mwenda: Let's take a new look at African aid

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譯者: Ariel Chen 審譯者: Marie Wu
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I am very, very happy to be amidst some of the most --
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我非常非常高興能來到...
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the lights are really disturbing my eyes
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這些燈光很刺眼
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and they're reflecting on my glasses.
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而且光會反射到我的眼鏡上
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I am very happy and honored to be amidst
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我非常高興而且感到榮幸能和
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very, very innovative and intelligent people.
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這些非常創新,有智慧的人在一起
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I have listened to the three previous speakers,
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聽了前三個演講之後
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and guess what happened?
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猜猜看怎麼了?
00:46
Every single thing I planned to say, they have said it here,
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原本我打算要講的每件事,都被他們講完了
00:49
and it looks and sounds like I have nothing else to say.
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看起來我似乎沒有什麼好講了
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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But there is a saying in my culture
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在我們的文化裡有這麼一句諺語:
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that if a bud leaves a tree without saying something,
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如果一朵花苞沒說什麼就從樹上凋落
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that bud is a young one.
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那麼這朵花苞一定還很年輕
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So, I will -- since I am not young and am very old,
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既然我不再年輕,而且其實很老了..
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I still will say something.
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我還是會說些話
01:13
We are hosting this conference at a very opportune moment,
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這場研討會召開的時機非常恰當
01:18
because another conference is taking place in Berlin.
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因為另一個會議已經在柏林展開
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It is the G8 Summit.
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這個會議就是八國高峰會
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The G8 Summit proposes that the solution to Africa's problems
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八國高峰會對於非洲問題所提出的解決方案
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should be a massive increase in aid,
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就是應該要投入更大量的援助
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something akin to the Marshall Plan.
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類似馬歇爾計劃
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Unfortunately, I personally do not believe in the Marshall Plan.
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但不幸的是,我個人不相信馬歇爾計畫
01:39
One, because the benefits of the Marshall Plan have been overstated.
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第一,馬歇爾計畫所帶來的益處被過度誇大
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Its largest recipients were Germany and France,
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因它而受益最多的國家是德國和法國
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and it was only 2.5 percent of their GDP.
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但援助只佔他們國內生產總值的2.5%
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An average African country receives foreign aid
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非洲國家平均收到的外援
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to the tune of 13, 15 percent of its GDP,
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大約佔他們的國內生產總值的13~15%
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and that is an unprecedented transfer of financial resources
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而且這是一個空前的金融資源轉移
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from rich countries to poor countries.
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由富裕國家援助貧窮國家
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But I want to say that there are two things we need to connect.
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但我想說的是,我們必須想到兩件事
02:08
How the media covers Africa in the West, and the consequences of that.
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西方媒體如何報導非洲,還有援助帶來的成果
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By displaying despair, helplessness and hopelessness,
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媒體報導非洲絕望,無助,以及沒有希望的畫面
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the media is telling the truth about Africa, and nothing but the truth.
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在在告訴我們有關非洲的真相,全都是事實
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However, the media is not telling us the whole truth.
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然而,媒體沒有告訴我們全部的真相
02:27
Because despair, civil war, hunger and famine,
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雖然絕望,內戰,飢餓,還有饑荒
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although they're part and parcel of our African reality,
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是非洲現實生活中的一部份
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they are not the only reality.
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但現實生活並不是只有這些
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And secondly, they are the smallest reality.
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其次,這些只是現實生活中最小的部分
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Africa has 53 nations.
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非洲有53個國家
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We have civil wars only in six countries,
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只有6個國家有內戰
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which means that the media are covering only six countries.
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這意味著媒體的報導只涵蓋這6個國家
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Africa has immense opportunities that never navigate
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非洲擁有很多機會,卻從未出現在
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through the web of despair and helplessness
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那些充滿絕望或無助的報導中
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that the Western media largely presents to its audience.
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也就是西方媒體大量向觀眾傳遞的訊息
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But the effect of that presentation is, it appeals to sympathy.
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這樣的報導目的在於博取同情心
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It appeals to pity. It appeals to something called charity.
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博取於憐憫,博取所謂的慈善援助
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And, as a consequence, the Western view
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結果就是,西方人對於
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of Africa's economic dilemma is framed wrongly.
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非洲經濟的困境存有錯誤的看法
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The wrong framing is a product of thinking
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這個錯誤的看法就是在於他們覺得
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that Africa is a place of despair.
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非洲是一個充滿絕望的地方
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What should we do with it? We should give food to the hungry.
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我們應該怎麼做?我們應該給飢餓的人食物
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We should deliver medicines to those who are ill.
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我們應該給生病的人藥物
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We should send peacekeeping troops
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我們應該派維和部隊過去
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to serve those who are facing a civil war.
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以幫助處於內戰的人民
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And in the process, Africa has been stripped of self-initiative.
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在這個過程中,非洲的自主權已經被剝奪
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I want to say that it is important to recognize
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我想說的是.我們必須去體認到
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that Africa has fundamental weaknesses.
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非洲的確有根本上的缺點
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But equally, it has opportunities and a lot of potential.
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但同樣的,它也擁有機會和很多的潛力
03:48
We need to reframe the challenge that is facing Africa,
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我們必須重新定義非洲所面臨的挑戰
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from a challenge of despair,
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從原本絕望的角度
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which is called poverty reduction,
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也就是減少貧窮的角度
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to a challenge of hope.
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轉而改為充滿希望的角度
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We frame it as a challenge of hope, and that is worth creation.
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我們將其視為為充滿希望的挑戰,這是值得一試的
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The challenge facing all those who are interested in Africa
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所有關心非洲的人應該採取的態度
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is not the challenge of reducing poverty.
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不是如何減少貧窮
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It should be a challenge of creating wealth.
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而是如何增加財富
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Once we change those two things --
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一旦我們把那兩個概念對調過來--
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if you say the Africans are poor and they need poverty reduction,
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如果你說"非洲人很窮,而且我們應該幫助他們減少貧窮"
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you have the international cartel of good intentions
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你便要求國際社會秉持善心
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moving onto the continent, with what?
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要送些東西到非洲,但要給他們什麼呢?
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Medicines for the poor, food relief for those who are hungry,
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給窮人藥物,給予挨餓的人食物
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and peacekeepers for those who are facing civil war.
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再派遣維和部隊來拯救陷於內戰的人民
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And in the process, none of these things really are productive
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但在這些援助中,沒有一項是真的具有生產力的
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because you are treating the symptoms, not the causes
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因為這只是解決表面上的問題,而不是去解決
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of Africa's fundamental problems.
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非洲根本的問題
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Sending somebody to school and giving them medicines,
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讓更多人能上學,還有提供藥物
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ladies and gentlemen, does not create wealth for them.
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女士先生們,這些都不能為他們創造財富
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Wealth is a function of income, and income comes from you finding
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有收入才會帶來財富,而收入來自於
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a profitable trading opportunity or a well-paying job.
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有利潤的貿易機會或是薪水優渥的工作
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Now, once we begin to talk about wealth creation in Africa,
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現在,當我們談到如何在非洲創造財富
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our second challenge will be,
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我們的第二個挑戰就是,
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who are the wealth-creating agents in any society?
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誰是社會裡創造財富的主要成員?
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They are entrepreneurs. [Unclear] told us they are always
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是企業家. 他們大約只佔了
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about four percent of the population, but 16 percent are imitators.
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人口的4%,但其中有16%的人只能算是模倣者
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But they also succeed at the job of entrepreneurship.
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但他們也可以成功地勝任企業家的工作
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So, where should we be putting the money?
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那我們該把錢放在哪裡?
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We need to put money where it can productively grow.
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我們應該把錢放在能孳長更多財富的地方
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Support private investment in Africa, both domestic and foreign.
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贊助非洲國家國內或國外的私人投資,
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Support research institutions,
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贊助研究機構
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because knowledge is an important part of wealth creation.
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因為創造財富的其中一個要點就是擁有知識
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But what is the international aid community doing with Africa today?
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但現在的國際援助組織對非洲做了什麼?
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They are throwing large sums of money for primary health,
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他們投入很多錢從事基礎醫療
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for primary education, for food relief.
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基礎教育,還有食物
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The entire continent has been turned into
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整個非洲大陸變成一個
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a place of despair, in need of charity.
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充滿絕望,而且需要人家施捨的地方
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Ladies and gentlemen, can any one of you tell me
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女士先生們,有沒有人可以告訴我
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a neighbor, a friend, a relative that you know,
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你認識的鄰居,朋友或親戚
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who became rich by receiving charity?
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誰靠著別人的救濟而變得有錢?
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By holding the begging bowl and receiving alms?
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靠著向別人乞討然後得到救濟?
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Does any one of you in the audience have that person?
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在座的聽眾有人認識這樣子的人嗎?
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Does any one of you know a country that developed because of
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有沒有人知道有哪一個國家的發展是因為
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the generosity and kindness of another?
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接受別的國家慷慨和善心的援助嗎?
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Well, since I'm not seeing the hand,
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那麼,因為我都沒看到有人舉手
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it appears that what I'm stating is true.
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很顯然地,我的論述是對的
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(Bono: Yes!)
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波諾: 有!
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Andrew Mwenda: I can see Bono says he knows the country.
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安德魯: 我看波諾好像知道有這麼一個國家
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Which country is that?
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哪個國家?
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(Bono: It's an Irish land.)
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波諾: 是個愛爾蘭的名字
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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(Bono: [unclear])
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波諾:[聲音模糊]
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AM: Thank you very much. But let me tell you this.
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非常謝謝你. 但是讓我來告訴你
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External actors can only present to you an opportunity.
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外人只能給你這麼一個機會
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The ability to utilize that opportunity and turn it into an advantage
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要怎麼去運用這個機會,而且把它變成一個優勢
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depends on your internal capacity.
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就要看你本身的能力
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Africa has received many opportunities.
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非洲曾得到很多機會
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Many of them we haven't benefited much.
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但我們卻沒有從中獲益很多
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Why? Because we lack the internal, institutional framework
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為什麼?因為我們缺乏內部制度
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and policy framework that can make it possible for us
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和政策架構,可以讓我們有可能
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to benefit from our external relations. I'll give you an example.
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從對外的關係中受益. 我來舉一個例子
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Under the Cotonou Agreement,
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在柯都努協議中
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formerly known as the Lome Convention,
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以前叫做洛海公約
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African countries have been given an opportunity by Europe
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歐洲曾提供一個機會給非洲國家
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to export goods, duty-free, to the European Union market.
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以零關稅的方式出口貨品到歐盟市場
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My own country, Uganda, has a quota to export 50,000 metric tons
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我自己的國家,烏干達,有五萬公噸的出口配額
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of sugar to the European Union market.
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可以出口糖到歐盟市場
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We haven't exported one kilogram yet.
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但我們一公斤都還沒出口過
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We import 50,000 metric tons of sugar from Brazil and Cuba.
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我們反而從巴西和古巴進口了五萬公噸的糖
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Secondly, under the beef protocol of that agreement,
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第二,根據公約上的牛肉條款
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African countries that produce beef
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產牛肉的非洲國家
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have quotas to export beef duty-free to the European Union market.
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可以享有以零關稅出口牛肉到歐盟市場的配額
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None of those countries, including Africa's most successful nation, Botswana,
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但沒有一個國家可以達到這個配額,連非洲最成功的國家,波札那
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has ever met its quota.
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也從未用完這個配額
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So, I want to argue today that the fundamental source of Africa's
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所以我主張,非洲之所以
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inability to engage the rest of the world
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無法和其他國家建立
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in a more productive relationship
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合作互利的關係
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is because it has a poor institutional and policy framework.
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是因為制度和政策上的結構太過鬆散
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And all forms of intervention need support,
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任何形式的介入都需要有支持的力量
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the evolution of the kinds of institutions that create wealth,
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像是發展創造財富的機構
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the kinds of institutions that increase productivity.
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還有可以增進生產力的機構
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How do we begin to do that, and why is aid the bad instrument?
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我們要怎麼做? 還有為什麼援助不是個好方法?
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Aid is the bad instrument, and do you know why?
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你知道為什麼援助不是個好方法嗎?
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Because all governments across the world need money to survive.
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因為世界上所有的政府都需要錢才能存活下去
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Money is needed for a simple thing like keeping law and order.
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錢是會被拿來做一些簡單的事,例如維持法律和秩序
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You have to pay the army and the police to show law and order.
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你必須付錢給軍隊和警察,請他們維持法律和秩序
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And because many of our governments are quite dictatorial,
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然而因為我們大多數的政府都很獨裁
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they need really to have the army clobber the opposition.
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他們需要軍隊去鎮壓反對者
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The second thing you need to do is pay your political hangers-on.
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再來,政治活動也需要錢
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Why should people support their government?
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為什麼人民應該要支持他們的政府?
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Well, because it gives them good, paying jobs,
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因為政府給他們薪水不錯的工作
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or, in many African countries, unofficial opportunities
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或者,在很多非洲國家
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to profit from corruption.
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私底下可以從貪污中得到利益
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The fact is no government in the world,
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事實上,世界上沒有任何一個政府--
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with the exception of a few, like that of Idi Amin,
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伊迪˙阿明是個例外--
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can seek to depend entirely on force as an instrument of rule.
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可以完全依靠武力來治國
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Many countries in the [unclear], they need legitimacy.
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很多國家需要依法治國
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To get legitimacy, governments often need to deliver things like primary education,
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為此,政府通常需要提供基礎教育,
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primary health, roads, build hospitals and clinics.
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基礎醫療,道路,蓋醫院還有診所
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If the government's fiscal survival
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如果一個國家的財政
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depends on it having to raise money from its own people,
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是向人民募款而得
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such a government is driven by self-interest
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這種以自我利益為導向的政府
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to govern in a more enlightened fashion.
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就會以更開明的方式來治國
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It will sit with those who create wealth.
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它會和創造財富的人坐下來
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Talk to them about the kind of policies and institutions
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討論什麼樣的政策和體制
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that are necessary for them to expand a scale and scope of business
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是他們在拓展生意上所必須的
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so that it can collect more tax revenues from them.
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如此一來,才能從他們身上拿到更多稅收
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The problem with the African continent
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非洲大陸的問題
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and the problem with the aid industry
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還有國際援助團體所帶來的問題
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is that it has distorted the structure of incentives
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已經扭曲了非洲國家
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facing the governments in Africa.
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的生存動機
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The productive margin in our governments' search for revenue
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我們政府的主要收入來源
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does not lie in the domestic economy,
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不是來自於國內的經濟
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it lies with international donors.
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而是來自國際的捐助者
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Rather than sit with Ugandan --
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與其和烏干達的...
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rather than sit with Ugandan entrepreneurs,
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與其和烏干達的企業家,
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Ghanaian businessmen, South African enterprising leaders,
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迦納商人,南非的企業領導者共商大計
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our governments find it more productive
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我們的政府發現和國際貨幣基金組織還有世界銀行協商
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to talk to the IMF and the World Bank.
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會帶來更多的收入
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I can tell you, even if you have ten Ph.Ds.,
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我可以告訴你,即使你有十個博士學位
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you can never beat Bill Gates in understanding the computer industry.
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還是敵不過比爾蓋茲對電腦產業的了解
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Why? Because the knowledge that is required for you to understand
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為什麼? 因為去了解拓展生意
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the incentives necessary to expand a business --
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所需要具備的知識
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it requires that you listen to the people, the private sector actors in that industry.
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就是要你去傾聽那些在這個行業的人的意見
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Governments in Africa have therefore been given an opportunity,
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非洲各政府因此從國際組織上得到一個機會
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by the international community, to avoid building
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就是盡量不要
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productive arrangements with your own citizens,
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讓自己的人民有收入
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and therefore allowed to begin endless negotiations with the IMF
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如此才可以和國際貨幣基金組織展開無止盡的協商
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and the World Bank, and then it is the IMF and the World Bank
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然後再和世界銀行談,之後回來找國際貨幣基金組織,再來找世界銀行
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that tell them what its citizens need.
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告訴這些組織他們的人民需要什麼
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In the process, we, the African people, have been sidelined
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在這整個過程中,非洲人民就像局外人一樣
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from the policy-making, policy-orientation, and policy-
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從國家制定政策,設立政策方針
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implementation process in our countries.
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到執行政策,人民都被排除在外
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We have limited input, because he who pays the piper calls the tune.
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我們無法參與太多,因為出錢的是老大
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The IMF, the World Bank, and the cartel of good intentions in the world
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國際貨幣基金,世界銀行,還有世界上各個援助組織
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has taken over our rights as citizens,
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接管了我們的公民權
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and therefore what our governments are doing, because they depend on aid,
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因為我們的政府仰賴那些援助,所以他們做的就是
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is to listen to international creditors rather than their own citizens.
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聽命於國際上的那些債權人,而不是傾聽自己人民的心聲
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But I want to put a caveat on my argument,
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但我想先澄清一下我的論點
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and that caveat is that it is not true that aid is always destructive.
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那就是援助並不一定是具有破壞性的
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Some aid may have built a hospital, fed a hungry village.
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有些援助蓋了醫院,提供食物給鬧飢荒的村莊
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It may have built a road, and that road
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或是興建道路,這些道路
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may have served a very good role.
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也可能扮演了一個很好的角色
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The mistake of the international aid industry
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國際援助組織所犯的錯誤就是
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is to pick these isolated incidents of success,
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拿了一些成功的案例
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generalize them, pour billions and trillions of dollars into them,
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歸納這些案例,並投入幾億幾兆的金錢
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and then spread them across the whole world,
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然後向全世界廣為宣傳
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ignoring the specific and unique circumstances in a given village,
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忽略了其實每個村莊的情況都不相同
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the skills, the practices, the norms and habits
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每個成功案例所援助的村莊
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that allowed that small aid project to succeed --
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村民的能力,作習,規範及習慣都不相同
12:14
like in Sauri village, in Kenya, where Jeffrey Sachs is working --
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就像傑弗瑞.薩奇斯工作的肯亞村莊- Sauri村
12:17
and therefore generalize this experience
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他們得到一個很好的經驗
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as the experience of everybody.
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可以成為別人的借鏡
12:23
Aid increases the resources available to governments,
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援助讓政府的資源增加
12:28
and that makes working in a government the most profitable thing
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對於一個在非洲找工作的人來說
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you can have, as a person in Africa seeking a career.
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在政府部門工作比較有利可圖
12:35
By increasing the political attractiveness of the state,
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為了引起更多政治上的關注
12:39
especially in our ethnically fragmented societies in Africa,
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尤其像非洲是一個種族劃分的社會
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aid tends to accentuate ethnic tensions
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援助往往加重了種族間的緊張關係
12:46
as every single ethnic group now begins struggling to enter the state
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因為每個獨立的族群現在都想拼命擠進國家組織裡
12:52
in order to get access to the foreign aid pie.
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為的就是能分一杯羹
12:55
Ladies and gentlemen, the most enterprising people in Africa
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女士先生們,在非洲最有事業心的人
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cannot find opportunities to trade and to work in the private sector
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沒辦法在民營機構從商或工作
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because the institutional and policy environment is hostile to business.
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是因為制度和政策環境實在是對商業不太友善
13:08
Governments are not changing it. Why?
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政府也沒有要去改變. 為什麼?
13:10
Because they don't need to talk to their own citizens.
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因為政府不需要和他們自己的人民對話
13:15
They talk to international donors.
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他們只要和國際間的資助者對話
13:17
So, the most enterprising Africans end up going to work for government,
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所以最有事業心的非洲人到最後都去為政府工作
13:22
and that has increased the political tensions in our countries
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而我們國家裡的政治緊張與日俱增
13:25
precisely because we depend on aid.
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只因為我們純粹仰賴援助
13:28
I also want to say that it is important for us to
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我還想說, 對我們來說重要的是去瞭解
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note that, over the last 50 years, Africa has been receiving increasing aid
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在過去的50年裡,非洲從國際社會
13:36
from the international community,
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得到愈來愈多的援助
13:38
in the form of technical assistance, and financial aid,
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包括技術協助,金錢援助
13:41
and all other forms of aid.
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及各種其他形式的援助
13:43
Between 1960 and 2003, our continent received 600 billion dollars of aid,
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在1960到2003年間,非洲大陸收到六千億美金的援助
13:53
and we are still told that there is a lot of poverty in Africa.
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但大家還是覺得非洲很窮
13:56
Where has all the aid gone?
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那些援助都跑到哪兒去了?
13:59
I want to use the example of my own country, called Uganda,
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我想用我自己的國家,烏干達,作為一個例子
14:03
and the kind of structure of incentives that aid has brought there.
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來看援助都被花到哪裡去
14:08
In the 2006-2007 budget, expected revenue: 2.5 trillion shillings.
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2006~2007年的預算中,預期收益是2.5兆先令
14:14
The expected foreign aid: 1.9 trillion.
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預期的國外援助: 1.9兆先令
14:17
Uganda's recurrent expenditure -- by recurrent what do I mean?
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烏干達的經常性支出--我說的經常性支出是什麼?
14:21
Hand-to-mouth is 2.6 trillion.
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只是用來糊口--就花了2.6兆先令
14:25
Why does the government of Uganda budget spend 110 percent
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為什麼烏干達政府的預算會打算花掉
14:30
of its own revenue?
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自己收入的110%?
14:31
It's because there's somebody there called foreign aid, who contributes for it.
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因為有外援的幫忙
14:36
But this shows you that the government of Uganda
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但這顯示了烏干達政府
14:38
is not committed to spending its own revenue
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沒有要把他的收入拿去
14:42
to invest in productive investments,
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投入在有生產力的投資上
14:44
but rather it devotes this revenue
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而是把這些收入
14:46
to paying structure of public expenditure.
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拿來支付政府的花費
14:50
Public administration, which is largely patronage, takes 690 billion.
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公共行政部門,主要由援助金贊助,就花了6千900億
14:55
The military, 380 billion.
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軍隊,3千800億
14:57
Agriculture, which employs 18 percent of our poverty-stricken citizens,
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農業,有18%的窮困人民從事的行業
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takes only 18 billion.
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只花了180億
15:05
Trade and industry takes 43 billion.
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貿易和工業花了430億
15:09
And let me show you, what does public expenditure --
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讓我來告訴你公共支出--
15:13
rather, public administration expenditure -- in Uganda constitute?
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對烏干達來說,其實是公共行政支出--是由什麼組成的?
15:17
There you go. 70 cabinet ministers, 114 presidential advisers,
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我來告訴你. 有70個閣員,114個總統顧問
15:23
by the way, who never see the president, except on television.
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順帶一提,這些顧問除了在電視上,誰也沒看過總統
15:26
(Laughter)
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15:29
(Applause)
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15:34
And when they see him physically, it is at public functions like this,
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當顧問看到他時,一定會是在這樣的一個公共場合
15:39
and even there, it is him who advises them.
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即使如此,那也是他建議的
15:43
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
15:45
We have 81 units of local government.
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我們有81個地方政府
15:48
Each local government is organized like the central government --
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每個地方政府的組織都跟中央政府一樣
15:50
a bureaucracy, a cabinet, a parliament,
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一個行政組織,一個內閣,一個議會
15:52
and so many jobs for the political hangers-on.
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政府提供了很多工作
15:55
There were 56, and when our president wanted to
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原本有56個行政區,但當總統想要
15:58
amend the constitution and remove term limits,
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修改憲法然後除去任期限制時
16:01
he had to create 25 new districts, and now there are 81.
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他又增加了25個新的行政區,所以現在有81個行政區
16:05
Three hundred thirty-three members of parliament.
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有333個國會議員
16:07
You need Wembley Stadium to host our parliament.
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你需一個像"溫布里足球場"那麼大的地方來開我們的議會
16:09
One hundred thirty-four commissions
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134個委員會
16:11
and semi-autonomous government bodies,
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還有半自治的政府機構
16:16
all of which have directors and the cars. And the final thing,
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這些都需要負責人和車子...還有最後一項
16:20
this is addressed to Mr. Bono. In his work, he may help us on this.
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留給波諾先生. 他的工作也許能幫助我們.
16:24
A recent government of Uganda study found
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一份最近研究烏干達政府的報告指出
16:26
that there are 3,000 four-wheel drive motor vehicles
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有3千輛轎車
16:30
at the Minister of Health headquarters.
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在衛生署總部
16:32
Uganda has 961 sub-counties, each of them with a dispensary,
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烏干達有961個鎮,每個鎮有一個診療所
16:37
none of which has an ambulance.
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但卻連一台救護車也沒有
16:39
So, the four-wheel drive vehicles at the headquarters
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而那些在總部的轎車
16:42
drive the ministers, the permanent secretaries, the bureaucrats
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卻被用來接送部長,秘書,官員們
16:45
and the international aid bureaucrats who work in aid projects,
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還有用來接送在援助專案工作的國際援助官員們
16:48
while the poor die without ambulances and medicine.
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在此同時窮人卻因為沒有救護車和醫藥而死掉
16:54
Finally, I want to say that before I came to speak here,
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最後,我想說的是,在我來這裡演講之前
16:58
I was told that the principle of TEDGlobal
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有人告訴我TEDGlobal的原則是
17:02
is that the good speech should be like a miniskirt.
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一段好的演講要像一條迷你裙
17:05
It should be short enough to arouse interest,
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它要短到可以引起注意力
17:07
but long enough to cover the subject.
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但也要長到能夠涵蓋主題
17:09
I hope I have achieved that.
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我希望我有做到這一點
17:10
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
17:11
Thank you very much.
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非常謝謝各位
17:12
(Applause)
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