An inventory of the invisible | John Lloyd

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翻译人员: Bo Wang 校对人员: Vivian Lee
00:12
So the question is, what is invisible?
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那么,问题是:什么是“看不见”?
00:17
There is more of it than you think, actually.
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实际上这并不是想象中的那么简单。
00:20
Everything, I would say. Everything that matters
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我认为是每一件重要的事物
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except every thing and except matter.
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除了每一件事,也除了重要。
00:29
We can see matter. But we can't see what's the matter.
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我们可以看见事物,但是我们不能认识它们的实质。
00:33
As in this cryptic sentence I found in The Guardian recently:
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最近我在《卫报》上发现了一个隐晦的句子。
00:38
"The marriage suffered a setback in 1965,
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“1965年这段婚姻经历了挫折
00:41
when the husband was killed by the wife."
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那年妻子杀死了丈夫。”
00:44
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
00:47
There's a world of invisibility there, isn't there?
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这其中有许多不可告人的秘密,是吧?
00:49
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
00:51
So, we can see the stars and the planets,
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我们可以看见满天星光和星球
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but we can't see what holds them apart
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但是我们不能看出是什么使它们相互分开
00:56
or what draws them together.
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或者什么使它们聚在一起。
00:58
With matter, as with people, we see only the skin of things.
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看事物,就像看人一样,我们只看到表面的东西。
01:01
We can't see into the engine room.
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我们不能深入洞察。
01:03
We can't see what makes people tick, at least not without difficulty.
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我们不能看到是什么支配着人的一举一动,至少不是一件轻松的事。
01:06
And the closer we look at anything, the more it disappears.
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我们观察得越仔细,真相就越不明朗。
01:10
In fact, if you look really closely at stuff,
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实际上,如果你真的足够近的观察事物,
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if you look at the basic substructure of matter,
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如果你探究物质的基本构造,
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there isn't anything there.
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你将一无所获。
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Electrons disappear in a kind of fuzz,
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电子如微小的绒毛一般消失,
01:18
and there is only energy. And you can't see energy.
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只剩下能量。我们是看不见能量的。
01:23
So everything that matters, that's important, is invisible.
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因此对于任何事物来说,重要的是“看不见”的东西。
01:26
One slightly silly thing that's invisible
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这是一个有点滑稽的、关于“看不见”的
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is this story, which is invisible to you.
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故事,对你们而言是“看不见”的。
01:31
And I'm now going to make it visible to you in your minds.
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我现在将让它在你们的头脑中显现出来。
01:34
It's about an M.P. called Geoffrey Dickens.
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这个故事的主人公是一个叫Geoffrey Dickens的国会议员。
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The late Geoffrey Dickens, M.P. was attending a fete in his constituency.
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前议员Geoffrey Dickens正在他的选区参加一个宴会。
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Wherever he went, at every stall he stopped he was closely followed
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不管他走到哪里,在他停下来的每一处他都被一个
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by a devoted smiling woman of indescribable ugliness.
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狂热且奇丑无比的微笑妇女紧紧跟随者。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:49
Try as he might, he couldn't get away from her.
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尽管他努力尝试,还是始终无法摆脱她。
01:51
A few days later he received a letter from a constituent
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几天以后他收到了一个选民的来信,
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saying how much she admired him,
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尽诉她的仰慕之情,
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had met him at a fete and asking for a signed photograph.
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回顾宴会的一面之缘以及索求一张签名的照片。
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After her name, written in brackets was the apt description, horse face.
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在她的名字后面,括号内写着一个恰如其分的描述词:马脸。
02:03
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:04
"I've misjudged this women," thought Mr. Dickens.
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“我错怪了这位女士。”Dicken先生想到。
02:06
"Not only is she aware of her physical repulsiveness,
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“她不仅仅认识到自己的外表令人厌恶,
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she turns it to her advantage.
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她还将其加以利用。
02:11
A photo is not enough."
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一张照片是不够的。”
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So he went out and bought a plastic frame to put the photograph in.
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于是他出去买了一个塑料像框将照片放入其中。
02:16
And on the photograph, he wrote with a flourish,
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而且在照片上,他大笔一挥:
02:18
"To Horse Face, with love from Geoffrey Dickens, M.P."
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“致马脸,你亲爱的Geoffrey Dickens议员。”
02:23
After it had been sent off, his secretary said to him,
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当照片寄出去以后,他的秘书跟他说:
02:25
"Did you get that letter from the woman at the fete?
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“你收到那个宴会上的女人的来信了吗?
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I wrote Horse Face on her, so you'd remember who she was."
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我在上面写上了‘马脸’,以便能使你记起她。”
02:31
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:37
I bet he thought he wished he was invisible, don't you?
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我想他一定宁可自己是看不见的,是吧?
02:39
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:41
So, one of the interesting things about invisibility
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因此,关于“不可见”的一个很有趣的事情是
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is that things that we can't see
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我们不能看见的东西
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we also can't understand.
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我们也不能理解。
02:47
Gravity is one thing that we can't see
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重力就是一个我们看不见的东西,
02:49
and which we don't understand.
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对于它我们也不理解。
02:51
It's the least understood of all the four fundamental forces,
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在四种基本力中它是最神秘的,
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and the weakest.
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也是最弱的。
02:55
And nobody really knows what it is or why it's there.
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也没有人知道它是什么,为何存在。
02:57
For what it's worth, Sir Isaac Newton, the greatest scientist who ever lived,
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姑且不论真假,艾萨克·牛顿爵士,史上最伟大的科学家,
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he thought Jesus came to Earth specifically to operate the levers of gravity.
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他认为耶稣降临仅仅是为了操纵重力的杠杆。
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That's what he thought he was there for.
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他认为这就是耶稣的使命。
03:07
So, bright guy, could be wrong on that one, I don't know.
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所以,再聪明的人,在那里也可能出错,(反正)我不知道。
03:10
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
03:12
Consciousness. I see all your faces.
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意识。我看得见你们的脸。
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I have no idea what any of you are thinking. Isn't that amazing?
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我不知道你们中的任何一个人在想什么,这难道不令人惊讶吗?
03:17
Isn't that incredible that we can't read each other's minds?
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我们不能阅读他人的想法,这难道不是很不可思议吗?
03:20
But we can touch each other, taste each other perhaps, if we get close enough.
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但是我们可以相互触摸,也可能相互亲热,如果我们足够亲密。
03:24
But we can't read each other's minds. I find that quite astonishing.
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但是我们不能知道对方在想什么。我觉得这很让人惊讶。
03:27
In the Sufi faith, this great Middle Eastern religion,
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在中东的宗教派别苏菲派的信仰中——
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which some claim is the route of all religions,
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有些人认为苏菲派是一切宗教的根源,
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Sufi masters are all telepaths, so they say.
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据说,苏菲长老都懂读心术
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But their main exercise of telepathy
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但是他们使用心灵感应的主要目的
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is to send out powerful signals to the rest of us that it doesn't exist.
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就是向外界传达这样一个强有力的信号:它不存在。
03:45
So that's why we don't think it exists,
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所以也就不难理解为什么我们不相信读心术的存在,
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the Sufi masters working on us.
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是苏菲长老们对我们干的好事。
03:50
In the question of consciousness
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谈到意识
03:52
and artificial intelligence,
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和人工智能。
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artificial intelligence has really, like the study of consciousness,
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人工智能的研究如同对于意识的研究一样,
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gotten nowhere. We have no idea how consciousness works.
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毫无进展。我们完全不知道意识是如何运作的。
03:59
With artificial intelligence, not only have they not created artificial intelligence,
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使用人工智能技术不仅没有创造出人工智能,
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they haven't yet created artificial stupidity.
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也没有创造出“人工愚蠢”。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
04:11
The laws of physics: invisible, eternal, omnipresent, all-powerful.
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物理学的定理:不可见,永恒,无处不在,全部都拥有强大的力量。
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Remind you of anyone?
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让你们想起了什么?
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Interesting. I'm, as you can guess,
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这很有趣。正如你们所想,
04:19
not a materialist, I'm an immaterialist.
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我不是一个唯物主义者,我是一个非唯物主义者。
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And I've found a very useful new word, ignostic. Okay?
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我发现了一个非常有用的新词:“忽视主义者”(ignostic)
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I'm an ignostic.
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我就是一个“忽视主义者”。
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I refuse to be drawn on the question of whether God exists,
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我不会为上帝是否存在这样的问题而纠缠不休,
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until somebody properly defines the terms.
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直到有人把“上帝”准确的定义。
04:32
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
04:35
Another thing we can't see is the human genome.
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另外一个我们看不见的东西是人类基因图谱。
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And this is increasingly peculiar,
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而且它变的越来越奇怪。
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because about 20 years ago, when they started delving into the genome,
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因为20年前,当人们着手探究基因图谱时,
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they thought it would probably contain around 100,000 genes.
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当时预计人类基因组会包含大概10万个基因。
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Geneticists will know this, but every year since,
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遗传学者对这个比较熟悉,但是从那以后每年,
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it's been revised downwards.
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人们都在降低预估的基因数量。
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We now think there are likely to be only just over 20,000
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我们现在认为可能只有差不多2万种基因
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genes in the human genome.
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存在于人类的基因组中。
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This is extraordinary. Because rice -- get this --
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这很离奇。就拿稻谷来说,
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rice is known to have 38 thousand genes.
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稻谷拥有3万8千种基因。
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Potatoes, potatoes have 48 chromosomes. Do you know that?
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马铃薯拥有48对染色体。你们知道吗?
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Two more than people,
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比人类染色体数多2个
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and the same as a gorilla.
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大猩猩也是一样的数目
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
05:16
You can't see these things, but they are very strange.
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你看不见这些东西。但是它们确实存在,很奇怪。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
05:21
The stars by day. I always think that's fascinating.
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白天的星星。我总是认为它令人着迷。
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The universe disappears.
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好像宇宙消失了一般。
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The more light there is, the less you can see.
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光线越强,你能看到的反而越少。
05:29
Time, nobody can see time.
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时间,没有人可以看见时间。
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I don't know if you know this. Modern physics,
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我不知道你们是否了解。
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there is a big movement in modern physics
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现代物理学的一个重大突破
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to decide that time doesn't really exist,
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就是确定了时间是不存在的。
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because it's too inconvenient for the figures.
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因为它很难转换到数字模型中。
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It's much easier if it's not really there.
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所以干脆不存在,这样就省事多了。
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You can't see the future, obviously.
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显然,你不能看见未来。
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And you can't see the past, except in your memory.
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你也无法看见过去,除了在你的记忆中。
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One of the interesting things about the past is
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你尤其不能看见的
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you particularly can't see. My son asked me this the other day,
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关于过去的一个有意思的事情是,我儿子一天问我,
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he said, "Dad, can you remember what I was like when I was two?"
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他说,“爸爸,你能记得我两岁时候的样子吗?”
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And I said, "Yes." And he said, "Why can't I?"
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我说:“可以啊。”他说:“为什么我不行呢?”
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Isn't that extraordinary? You cannot remember
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这难道不奇怪吗?你记不得
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what happened to you earlier than the age of two or three,
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你两三岁之前的事情。
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which is great news for psychoanalysts,
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不过对于心理分析学家这却是一个好消息。
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because otherwise they'd be out of a job.
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因为否则的话它们就要失业了。
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Because that's where all the stuff happens
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因为所有的事情都是那段时间发生的
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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that makes you who you are.
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使得你变成了今天这样。
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Another thing you can't see is the grid on which we hang.
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另一个不可见的东西是我们依赖的网格。
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This is fascinating. You probably know, some of you,
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这很有趣。你们中的某些人也许知道,
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that cells are continually renewed. You can see it in skin and this kind of stuff.
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细胞是不断的更新的。你可以在皮肤和其他的外部器官上看到这种情况。
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Skin flakes off, hairs grow, nails, that kind of stuff.
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皮屑脱落,头发生长,指甲,诸如此类。
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But every cell in your body is replaced at some point.
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但是你身体里的细胞在某一个时刻也会更新。
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Taste buds, every 10 days or so.
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味蕾,大概十天左右(更新)。
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Livers and internal organs sort of take a bit longer. A spine takes several years.
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肝脏和其他内部器官可能会长一点。脊椎要几年。
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But at the end of seven years, not one cell in your body
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不过七年之后,你身体里的每一个细胞
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remains from what was there seven years ago.
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都和七年前不再一样了。
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The question is, who, then, are we?
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那么问题就是,我们是谁?
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What are we? What is this thing that we hang on,
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我们是什么,我们一直依赖的这个东西是什么,
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that is actually us?
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还真的是我们本身吗?
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Okay. Atoms, you can't see them.
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原子,我们无法看见。
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Nobody ever will. They're smaller than the wavelength of light.
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没人可以看见。它们比光的波长还要小
06:57
Gas, you can't see that.
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气体,也不可见。
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Interesting. Somebody mentioned 1600 recently.
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有意思。有人最近提到了1600年。
07:01
Gas was invented in 1600
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Gas(气体)这个字在1600年
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by a Dutch chemist called Van Helmont.
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被一个叫Van Helmont的荷兰化学家发明。
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It's said to be the most successful ever invention
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这被认为是有史以来个人发明的
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of a word by a known individual.
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最成功的一个字。
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Quite good. He also invented a word called "blas,"
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非常不错。他还发明了一个字叫blass,
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meaning astral radiation.
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意即星的辐射。
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Didn't catch on, unfortunately.
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很遗憾,这个词没有流行起来。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:20
But well done, him.
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不过他还是干的很棒。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
07:23
There is so many things that -- Light.
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这样的例子太多了——光。
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You can't see light. When it's dark, in a vacuum,
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你不能看见光。当黑暗的情况下,在真空中,
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if a person shines a beam of light straight across your eyes,
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如果有人在你的眼前正方发射出一道光,
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you won't see it. Slightly technical, some physicists will disagree with this.
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你是不会看见的。有一点专业了,一些物理学家不会赞同这个观点。
07:35
But it's odd that you can't see the beam of light,
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不过奇怪的是你不能看见这束光,
07:37
you can only see what it hits.
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你只能看到它击中的地方。
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I find that extraordinary, not to be able to see light,
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我发现这个很奇妙,不能看见光,
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not to be able to see darkness.
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不能看见黑暗。
07:43
Electricity, you can't see that.
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电,你看不见电。
07:45
Don't let anyone tell you they understand electricity.
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别相信任何人跟你说的电是怎么一回事
07:47
They don't. Nobody knows what it is.
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他们不懂。没人知道是怎么回事。
07:49
(Laughter)
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You probably think the electrons in an electric wire
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你也许认为在你开灯的刹那,电子在电线中
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move instantaneously down a wire, don't you, at the speed of light
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以光速瞬间流过整条电线,是吗?
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when you turn the light on. They don't.
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实际上不是。
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Electrons bumble down the wire,
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电子在电线中笨拙的移动,
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about the speed of spreading honey, they say.
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据说和蜂蜜的流动速度差不多。
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(Laughter)
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Galaxies, 100 billion of them estimated in the universe.
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星系,在宇宙种估计有1000亿之多
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100 billion. How many can we see? Five.
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1000亿。我们能看见几个?5个。
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Five out of the 100 billion galaxies, with the naked eye,
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裸眼仅能观测1000亿中的5个。
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and one of them is quite difficult to see unless you've got very good eyesight.
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而且如果你视力不好的话,有一个还很难看到。
08:17
Radio waves. There's another thing.
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还有一个东西,无线电波。
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Heinrich Hertz, when he discovered radio waves in 1887,
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海因里希·赫兹,他在1887年发现了无线电波,
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he called them radio waves because they radiated.
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他之所以叫它们无线电波是因为它们是辐射的。
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And somebody said to him,
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于是有人问他,
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"Well what's the point of these, Heinrich?
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“那这些又有什么意义呢,海因里希?
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What's the point of these radio waves that you've found?"
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你发现的这些无线电波有什么意义呢?”
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And he said, "Well, I've no idea.
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他说,“其实,我也不知道。
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But I guess somebody will find a use for them someday."
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不过我想以后应该会有人挖掘它们的用处吧。”
08:37
And that's what they do, radio. That's what they discovered.
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这就是他们所做的,无线电,这就是他们所发现的。
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Anyway, so the biggest thing
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总而言之,对我们而言
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that's invisible to us is what we don't know.
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最大的不可见的事物就是我们不知道的。
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It is incredible how little we know.
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我们所知道的竟然是那么的少。
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Thomas Edison once said,
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爱迪生曾说,
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"We don't know one percent of one millionth
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对于任何事情而言,
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about anything."
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我们所知道的不过其百万分之一
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And I've come to the conclusion --
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于是我下了结论
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because you've asked this other question, "What's another thing you can't see?"
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因为你们已经问了另外一个问题,“还有什么东西我们看不见”
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The point, most of us. What's the point?
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意义,对于我们大多数人来说,这番话到底有什么意义?(暗指大多数人都看不出这番演讲的实际意义)
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(Laughter)
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09:07
(Applause)
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09:08
You can't see a point. It's by definition dimensionless,
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你不能看见“点”。根据定义,它是无尺寸的,
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like an electron, oddly enough.
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说来也怪,就像电子一样。
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But the point, what I've got it down to,
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但是,我所讲说的意义在于,
09:17
is there are only two questions really worth asking.
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只有两个问题真的值得我们探究。
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"Why are we here?" and "What should we do about it while we are?
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“我们为什么在这里?”和“当我们在这里时我们应该怎么办?”
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And to help you, I've got two things to leave you with, from two great philosophers,
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为了帮助大家,我留下两句话,来自两个伟大的哲学家,
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perhaps two of the greatest philosopher thinkers of the 20th century,
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也许是20世纪最伟大的两个思想者。
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one a mathematician and an engineer, and the other a poet.
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一位是数学家和工程师,另一位是一位诗人。
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The first is Ludwig Wittgenstein who said,
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第一位是Ludvig Vitgenštajn,他说,
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"I don't know why we are here.
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“我不知道为什么我们会在这里。
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But I'm pretty sure it's not in order to enjoy ourselves."
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但是我敢说我们可不是过来寻开心的。”
09:44
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
09:50
He was a cheerful bastard wasn't he?
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他是一个让人愉快的家伙是吧?
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
09:55
And secondly and lastly, W.H. Auden,
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最后一个,是W.H. Auden,
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one of my favorite poets, who said,
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我最喜欢的诗人之一,他说,
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"We are here on earth
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“我们来到世界上
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to help others.
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以帮助他人。
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What the others are here for, I've no idea."
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至于他人为何来到这个世界上,我不知道。”
10:07
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
10:09
(Applause)
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