An inventory of the invisible | John Lloyd

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00:12
So the question is, what is invisible?
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Pitanje je, što je to nevidljivo?
00:17
There is more of it than you think, actually.
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Zapravo, postoji više toga nego što vi mislite.
00:20
Everything, I would say. Everything that matters
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Ja bih rekao sve, sve što je bitno
00:23
except every thing and except matter.
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osim svake stvari, i osim materije.
00:29
We can see matter. But we can't see what's the matter.
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Mi možemo vidjeti materiju. Ali ne možemo vidjeti što je materija.
00:33
As in this cryptic sentence I found in The Guardian recently:
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Kao u ovoj kriptiranoj rečenici koju sam našao nedavno u Guardian-u.
00:38
"The marriage suffered a setback in 1965,
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"Brak je pretrpio neuspjeh 1965. godine
00:41
when the husband was killed by the wife."
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kada je muž ubijen od strane svoje žene."
00:44
(Laughter)
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(Smjeh)
00:47
There's a world of invisibility there, isn't there?
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Postoji svijet nevidljivoga tu, zar ne?
00:49
(Laughter)
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(Smjeh)
00:51
So, we can see the stars and the planets,
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Možemo vidjeti zvjezde i planete.
00:53
but we can't see what holds them apart
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Ali ne možemo vidjeti što ih drži odvojenima,
00:56
or what draws them together.
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ili što ih vuče jedne prema drugima.
00:58
With matter, as with people, we see only the skin of things.
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S materijom, kao i s ljudima, vidimo samo vanjštinu stvari.
01:01
We can't see into the engine room.
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Ne možemo vidjeti unutar strojarnice.
01:03
We can't see what makes people tick, at least not without difficulty.
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Ne možemo vidjeti što ljude pokreće, barem ne bez poteškoća.
01:06
And the closer we look at anything, the more it disappears.
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I što više iz bliza gledamo bilo što, tako ta stvar sve više nestaje.
01:10
In fact, if you look really closely at stuff,
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Zapravo, ako stvarno promatrate nešto iz bliza,
01:12
if you look at the basic substructure of matter,
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ako gledate osnovnu substrukturu materije,
01:14
there isn't anything there.
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nema ničega tamo.
01:16
Electrons disappear in a kind of fuzz,
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Elektroni nestaju u nekakvoj magli,
01:18
and there is only energy. And you can't see energy.
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i postoji samo energija. A energiju ne možete vidjeti.
01:23
So everything that matters, that's important, is invisible.
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Tako da je sve što vrijedi, što je važno, nevidljivo.
01:26
One slightly silly thing that's invisible
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Jedna malo glupava stvar koja je nevidljiva
01:29
is this story, which is invisible to you.
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je ova priča, koja je vama nevidljiva.
01:31
And I'm now going to make it visible to you in your minds.
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I sada ću je učiniti vidljivom vama u vašem umu.
01:34
It's about an M.P. called Geoffrey Dickens.
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Radi se o parlamentarnom zastupniku zvanom Geoffery Dickens.
01:38
The late Geoffrey Dickens, M.P. was attending a fete in his constituency.
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Kasni Geoffery Dickens, parlamentarni zastupnik, je prisustvovao svečanosti u svojoj izbornoj jedinici.
01:41
Wherever he went, at every stall he stopped he was closely followed
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Gdje god bi pošao, kad god bi zastao kod nekog štanda
01:44
by a devoted smiling woman of indescribable ugliness.
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slijedila bi ga odana nasmješena žena neopisive ružnoće.
01:47
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
01:49
Try as he might, he couldn't get away from her.
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Koliko god je pokušavao, nije mogao pobjeći od nje.
01:51
A few days later he received a letter from a constituent
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Nakon par dana dobio je pismo od biračice
01:53
saying how much she admired him,
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koja je rekla koliko mu se divi,
01:55
had met him at a fete and asking for a signed photograph.
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i da ga je srela na jednom štandu i zatražila potpisanu sliku.
01:58
After her name, written in brackets was the apt description, horse face.
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Nakon njenog imena, u zagradi je bio napisan opis, konjsko lice.
02:03
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:04
"I've misjudged this women," thought Mr. Dickens.
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"Pogrešno sam procijenio ovu ženu." pomislio je gosp. Dickens.
02:06
"Not only is she aware of her physical repulsiveness,
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"Ne samo da je svijesna svoje fizičke odbojnosti,
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she turns it to her advantage.
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već je okreće na svoju prednost.
02:11
A photo is not enough."
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Slika nije dovoljna."
02:13
So he went out and bought a plastic frame to put the photograph in.
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Tako da je otišao i kupio plastični okvir u koji bi stavio sliku.
02:16
And on the photograph, he wrote with a flourish,
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I na slici je napisao s entuzijazmon,
02:18
"To Horse Face, with love from Geoffrey Dickens, M.P."
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"Za 'Konjsko lice', s ljubavlju, Gefforey Dickens, parlamentarni zastupnik."
02:23
After it had been sent off, his secretary said to him,
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Nakon što je poslano njegova tajnica mu je rekla,
02:25
"Did you get that letter from the woman at the fete?
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"Jesi dobio pismo od one žene sa štanda?
02:27
I wrote Horse Face on her, so you'd remember who she was."
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Napisala sam 'Konjsko lice' na kuvertu, kako bi se sjetio tko je ona."
02:31
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:37
I bet he thought he wished he was invisible, don't you?
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Kladim se da je pomislio kako bi želio postati nevidljiv, zar ne?
02:39
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:41
So, one of the interesting things about invisibility
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Jedna od zanimljivih stvario o nevidljivosti
02:43
is that things that we can't see
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je da one stvari koje ne vidimo
02:45
we also can't understand.
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ne možemo ni razumjeti.
02:47
Gravity is one thing that we can't see
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Sila teža je jedna od stvari koje ne možemo vidjeti,
02:49
and which we don't understand.
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i koju ne razumijemo.
02:51
It's the least understood of all the four fundamental forces,
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Ona je najmanje jasna od četiriju fundamentalnih sila,
02:53
and the weakest.
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i najslabija.
02:55
And nobody really knows what it is or why it's there.
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Nitko zapravo ne zna što je ili zašto postoji.
02:57
For what it's worth, Sir Isaac Newton, the greatest scientist who ever lived,
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Sir Issac Newton, najveći znanstvenik koji je ikada živio,
03:00
he thought Jesus came to Earth specifically to operate the levers of gravity.
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je mislio kako je Isus došao na zemlju samo da bi rukovao polugama sile teže.
03:05
That's what he thought he was there for.
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To je on mislio o njegovoj svrsi postojanja.
03:07
So, bright guy, could be wrong on that one, I don't know.
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Tako da bi pametan čovjek mogao biti u krivu o tome, ne znam.
03:10
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
03:12
Consciousness. I see all your faces.
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Svijest. Vidim sva vaša lica.
03:14
I have no idea what any of you are thinking. Isn't that amazing?
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A nemam nikakvu ideju o tome što razmišljate. Nije li to nevjerojatno?
03:17
Isn't that incredible that we can't read each other's minds?
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Nije li nevjerojatno da ne možemo čitati jedni drugima misli?
03:20
But we can touch each other, taste each other perhaps, if we get close enough.
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Ali možemo se dodirivati, okusiti, ako se dovoljno približivmo.
03:24
But we can't read each other's minds. I find that quite astonishing.
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Ali ne možemo čitati jedni drugima misli. Ja mislim kako je to zadivljujuće.
03:27
In the Sufi faith, this great Middle Eastern religion,
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U Sufi vjerovanju, toj velikoj religiji Sredjeg istoka,
03:31
which some claim is the route of all religions,
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za koju neki tvrde kako je korijen svih religija,
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Sufi masters are all telepaths, so they say.
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Sufi majstori su svi telepati, ili tako tvrde.
03:38
But their main exercise of telepathy
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Ali njihova glavna vježba telepatije
03:40
is to send out powerful signals to the rest of us that it doesn't exist.
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je da šalju snažne signale prema svima nama kako to ne postoji.
03:45
So that's why we don't think it exists,
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Pa zato mi mislimo kako to ne postoji,
03:47
the Sufi masters working on us.
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to su Sufi majstori koji nas obrađuju.
03:50
In the question of consciousness
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Na pitanje svijesti
03:52
and artificial intelligence,
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i umjetne inteligencije.
03:54
artificial intelligence has really, like the study of consciousness,
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Umjetna inteligencija zapravo, kao i nauka o svijesti,
03:56
gotten nowhere. We have no idea how consciousness works.
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nije napredovala. Mi nemamo pojma kako svijest funkcionira.
03:59
With artificial intelligence, not only have they not created artificial intelligence,
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S umjetnom inteligencijom, ne samo da nisu stvorili umjetnu inteligenciju,
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they haven't yet created artificial stupidity.
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već nismo još ni stvorili umjetnu glupost.
04:06
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
04:11
The laws of physics: invisible, eternal, omnipresent, all-powerful.
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Zakoni fizike: ne vidljivi, vječni, sveprisutni, svemoćni.
04:15
Remind you of anyone?
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Podsijeća li vas to na nekoga?
04:17
Interesting. I'm, as you can guess,
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Zanimljivo. Ja nisam, kao što ste mogli predpostaviti,
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not a materialist, I'm an immaterialist.
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materijalist, ja sam imaterijalist.
04:21
And I've found a very useful new word, ignostic. Okay?
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Našao sam vrlo korisnu novu riječ, ignostik. Uredu?
04:24
I'm an ignostic.
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Ja sam ignostik.
04:26
I refuse to be drawn on the question of whether God exists,
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Ja odbijam dopustiti da me se uvuče u pitanje postoji li Bog,
04:29
until somebody properly defines the terms.
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dok netko pravilno ne definira termin.
04:32
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
04:35
Another thing we can't see is the human genome.
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Još nešto što ne možemo vidjeti jest ljudski genom.
04:38
And this is increasingly peculiar,
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I ovo je sve čudnije.
04:41
because about 20 years ago, when they started delving into the genome,
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Zato što prije oko 20 godina, kada su počeli uranjati u genom,
04:46
they thought it would probably contain around 100,000 genes.
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mislili su kako će vjerojatno sadržavati oko 100 tisuća gena.
04:49
Geneticists will know this, but every year since,
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Genetičari će ovo znati, ali svake godine od tada,
04:51
it's been revised downwards.
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taj broj se smanjuje.
04:53
We now think there are likely to be only just over 20,000
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Sada mislimo da je vjerojatno nešto više od 20 tisuća
04:56
genes in the human genome.
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gena u ljudskom genomu.
04:58
This is extraordinary. Because rice -- get this --
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To je nevjerojatno. Zato što riža, zamislite,
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rice is known to have 38 thousand genes.
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za rižu je poznato da ima 38 tisuća gena.
05:05
Potatoes, potatoes have 48 chromosomes. Do you know that?
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Krumpiri, krumpir ima 48 kromosoma. Jeste li to znali?
05:10
Two more than people,
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Dva više nego ljudi.
05:12
and the same as a gorilla.
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A isto kao gorila.
05:14
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
05:16
You can't see these things, but they are very strange.
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Ne možete vidjeti ove stvari. Ali su one jako čudne.
05:19
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
05:21
The stars by day. I always think that's fascinating.
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Zvijezde po danu. Ja uvijek mislim kako je to fascinantno.
05:24
The universe disappears.
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Svemir nestane.
05:26
The more light there is, the less you can see.
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Što je više svijetla, manje možete vidjeti.
05:29
Time, nobody can see time.
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Vrijeme, nitko ne može vidjeti vrijeme.
05:31
I don't know if you know this. Modern physics,
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Ne znam znate li ovo. Moderna fizika,
05:33
there is a big movement in modern physics
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postiji veliki pokret u modernoj fizici
05:35
to decide that time doesn't really exist,
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kako bi se odlučilo da vrijeme zapravo ne postoji.
05:37
because it's too inconvenient for the figures.
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Zato što je nezgodno tijekom izračunavanja jednadžbi.
05:40
It's much easier if it's not really there.
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Puno je lakše da ono ne postoji.
05:42
You can't see the future, obviously.
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Ne možete vidjeti budućnost, očito.
05:44
And you can't see the past, except in your memory.
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I ne možete vidjeti prošlost, osim u svojim sjećanjima.
05:47
One of the interesting things about the past is
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Jedna od zanimljivih stvari od prošlosti je
05:49
you particularly can't see. My son asked me this the other day,
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kako je pogotovo ne možete vidjeti, moj me sin neki dan pitao,
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he said, "Dad, can you remember what I was like when I was two?"
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rakao je, "Tata sjećaš li se kakav sam bio kada sam imao dvije godine?"
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And I said, "Yes." And he said, "Why can't I?"
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I ja sam rekao "Da." A on je rekao, "Zašto ja ne mogu?"
05:57
Isn't that extraordinary? You cannot remember
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Nije li to zapanjujuće? Ne možeš se sjetiti
05:59
what happened to you earlier than the age of two or three,
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što ti se dogodilo ranije od druge ili treće godine života.
06:02
which is great news for psychoanalysts,
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Što je odlična vijest za psihoanalitičare.
06:04
because otherwise they'd be out of a job.
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Zato što bi inače oni ostali bez posla.
06:06
Because that's where all the stuff happens
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Zato što je to vrijeme kada se sve ono događa
06:09
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
06:11
that makes you who you are.
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što vas čini osobama koje jeste.
06:14
Another thing you can't see is the grid on which we hang.
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Još jedna stvar koju ne vidite je mreža na kojoj visimo.
06:17
This is fascinating. You probably know, some of you,
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To je fascinantno. Neki od vas vjerojatno znate,
06:20
that cells are continually renewed. You can see it in skin and this kind of stuff.
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kako se stanice konstantno obnavljaju. Možete vidjeti to na koži i tome slično.
06:23
Skin flakes off, hairs grow, nails, that kind of stuff.
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Koža se ljušti, kosa raste, nokti, takve stvari.
06:27
But every cell in your body is replaced at some point.
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Ali svaka stanica u vašem tijelu je zamjenjena u nekom trenutku.
06:30
Taste buds, every 10 days or so.
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Okusni pupoljci, oko svakih 10 dana.
06:32
Livers and internal organs sort of take a bit longer. A spine takes several years.
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Jetra i unutarnji organi trebaju malo dulje. Kralježnica treba nekoliko godina.
06:36
But at the end of seven years, not one cell in your body
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Ali na kraju sedme godine, niti jedna stanica u vašem tijelu
06:40
remains from what was there seven years ago.
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ne ostaje a koja je bila tamo prije sedam godina.
06:43
The question is, who, then, are we?
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Pitanje je, tko, smo onda mi?
06:45
What are we? What is this thing that we hang on,
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Što smo mi? Što je to na što se držimo,
06:48
that is actually us?
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što smo zapravo?
06:52
Okay. Atoms, you can't see them.
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Dobro. Atomi, ne možete ih vidjeti.
06:54
Nobody ever will. They're smaller than the wavelength of light.
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Nitko nikada ni neće. Oni su manji od svjetlosnih valova.
06:57
Gas, you can't see that.
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Plin, to ne možete vidjeti.
06:59
Interesting. Somebody mentioned 1600 recently.
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Zanimljivo. Netko je spomenuo 1600. nedavno.
07:01
Gas was invented in 1600
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Plin je izumljen 1600. godine
07:03
by a Dutch chemist called Van Helmont.
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od strane nizozemskog kemičara Van Helmonta.
07:06
It's said to be the most successful ever invention
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Kažu kako je to jedna od najuspješnijih inovacija
07:09
of a word by a known individual.
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riječi ikada od strane poznate osobe.
07:11
Quite good. He also invented a word called "blas,"
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Dosta dobro. Također je izmislio riječ zvanu blass,
07:14
meaning astral radiation.
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koja znači astralna radijacija.
07:16
Didn't catch on, unfortunately.
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No to se nažalost nije uhvatilo.
07:18
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:20
But well done, him.
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Ali bravo za njega.
07:22
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:23
There is so many things that -- Light.
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Postoje toliko stvari koje -- svijetlo.
07:26
You can't see light. When it's dark, in a vacuum,
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Ne možete vidjeti svijetlo. Kada je mrak, u vakumu,
07:29
if a person shines a beam of light straight across your eyes,
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ako osoba uperi zraku svijetlosti ravno preko vaših očiju,
07:32
you won't see it. Slightly technical, some physicists will disagree with this.
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nećete je vidjeti. Malo s tehničke strane, neki fizičari se ne slažu s ovime.
07:35
But it's odd that you can't see the beam of light,
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Ali je čudno da ne možete vidjeti zraku svijetlosti,
07:37
you can only see what it hits.
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samo možete vidjeti ono u što ona udari.
07:39
I find that extraordinary, not to be able to see light,
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Ja mislim kako je to nevjerojatno, da ne možemo vidjeti svijetlo,
07:41
not to be able to see darkness.
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da ne možemo vidjeti mrak.
07:43
Electricity, you can't see that.
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Električna energija, to ne možete vidjeti.
07:45
Don't let anyone tell you they understand electricity.
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Ne dopustita da vam itko kaže da razunije električnu energiju.
07:47
They don't. Nobody knows what it is.
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Ne razumiju. Nitko ne razumije što je to.
07:49
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:50
You probably think the electrons in an electric wire
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Vjerojatno mislite na elektrone u električnoj žici
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move instantaneously down a wire, don't you, at the speed of light
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koji se kreću trenutno niz žicu, nije li tako, brzinom svijetlosti
07:55
when you turn the light on. They don't.
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kada upalite svijetlo. Nije tako.
07:57
Electrons bumble down the wire,
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Elektroni se kotrljaju niz žicu,
07:59
about the speed of spreading honey, they say.
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oko brzine tekućeg meda, tako kažu.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
08:04
Galaxies, 100 billion of them estimated in the universe.
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Galaksije, njih 100 milijardi, tako je procijenjeno u svemiru.
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100 billion. How many can we see? Five.
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100 milijardi. Koliko ih možemo vidjeti? Pet.
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Five out of the 100 billion galaxies, with the naked eye,
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Pet, od 100 miljardi galaksija, s golim okom.
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and one of them is quite difficult to see unless you've got very good eyesight.
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I jedna od njih se vrlo teško vidi osim ako nemate jako dobar vid.
08:17
Radio waves. There's another thing.
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Radijski valovi. Još jedna stvar.
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Heinrich Hertz, when he discovered radio waves in 1887,
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Heinrich Herz, kada je otkrio radijske valove 1887.,
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he called them radio waves because they radiated.
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nazvao ih je radio valovima zato što zrače.
08:24
And somebody said to him,
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I netko mu je rekao,
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"Well what's the point of these, Heinrich?
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"Pa koji je smisao toga Heinrich?
08:29
What's the point of these radio waves that you've found?"
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Koji je smisao tih radio valova koje si otkrio?"
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And he said, "Well, I've no idea.
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A on je rekao, "Pa, nemam pojma.
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But I guess somebody will find a use for them someday."
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Ali pretpostavljam kako će netko naći neku korist od njih jednog dana."
08:37
And that's what they do, radio. That's what they discovered.
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I to je ono što su napravili, radio. To je ono što su otkrili.
08:41
Anyway, so the biggest thing
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Kakobilo, najveća stvar
08:44
that's invisible to us is what we don't know.
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koja je nama nevidljiva je ono što ne znamo.
08:46
It is incredible how little we know.
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Zapanjujuće je koliko malo zapravo znamo.
08:49
Thomas Edison once said,
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Thomas Edison je jednom rekao,
08:51
"We don't know one percent of one millionth
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"Ne znamo jedan posto od jednog promila
08:53
about anything."
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o ičemu."
08:55
And I've come to the conclusion --
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I ja sam došao do zaključka
08:58
because you've asked this other question, "What's another thing you can't see?"
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zato što ste pitali ovo drugo pitanje, "Što još ne možemo vidjeti?"
09:01
The point, most of us. What's the point?
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Svrhu, većina nas. Koja je svrha?
09:04
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:07
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
09:08
You can't see a point. It's by definition dimensionless,
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Ne možete vidjeti svrhu. Ona je po definiciji bez dimenzija,
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like an electron, oddly enough.
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kao elektron, začudo.
09:14
But the point, what I've got it down to,
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Ali smisao, ono na što sam ga ja sveo,
09:17
is there are only two questions really worth asking.
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je da postoje samo dva pitanja koja vrijedi pitati.
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"Why are we here?" and "What should we do about it while we are?
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"Zašto smo ovdje?" i "Što bi trebali činiti dok smo ovdje?"
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And to help you, I've got two things to leave you with, from two great philosophers,
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I kako bi vam pomogao, imam dvije stvari s kojim vas ostavljam, od dva velika filozofa,
09:29
perhaps two of the greatest philosopher thinkers of the 20th century,
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možda i dva najveća filozofska mislioca 20. stoljeća.
09:32
one a mathematician and an engineer, and the other a poet.
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Jedan je matematićar i inžinjer, a drugi pjesnik.
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The first is Ludwig Wittgenstein who said,
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Prvi je Ludwig Wittgenstein koji je rekao,
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"I don't know why we are here.
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"Ne znam zašto smo ovdje.
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But I'm pretty sure it's not in order to enjoy ourselves."
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Ali sam prilično siguran kako nije da bi se zabavljali."
09:44
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:50
He was a cheerful bastard wasn't he?
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Baš je bio veseo čovjek zar ne?
09:52
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:55
And secondly and lastly, W.H. Auden,
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I drugi i zadnji, W. H. Auden,
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one of my favorite poets, who said,
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jedan od mojih omiljenih pjesnika, koji je rekao,
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"We are here on earth
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"Mi smo na zemlji
10:02
to help others.
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da pomognemo drugima.
10:04
What the others are here for, I've no idea."
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Zašto su drugi ovdje, nemam pojma."
10:07
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
10:09
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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