Eduardo Paes: The 4 commandments of cities

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Translator: Jenny Zurawell
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翻译人员: yan wang 校对人员: Jie Hong
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It's a great honor to be here.
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很荣幸能来到这里。
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It's a great honor to be here talking about cities,
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很荣幸能来这里聊一聊城市,
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talking about the future of cities.
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聊一聊城市的未来。
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It's great to be here as a mayor.
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很荣幸能以市长的身份来到这里。
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I really do believe that mayors have the political position
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我坚信市长们因为其政治地位
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to really change people's lives.
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完全可以改变人们的生活水平。
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That's the place to be.
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这就是他们的职责所在。
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And it's great to be here as the mayor of Rio.
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很高兴能以里约热内卢市长的身份来到这里。
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Rio's a beautiful city,
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里约是一个非常漂亮的城市,
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a vibrant place, special place.
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一个朝气蓬勃、富有个性的地方。
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Actually, you're looking at a guy
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事实上,你们今天正看着一个
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who has the best job in the world.
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担任这世界上最好工作的人在演讲。
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And I really wanted to share with you
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我非常乐意与大家一同分享
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a very special moment of my life
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一段我人生中具有特殊意义的经历,
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and the history of the city of Rio.
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以及里约热内卢这座城市的历史文化。
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(Video) Announcer: And now, ladies and gentlemen,
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(视频)发言人:女士们,先生们,
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the envelope containing the result.
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激动人心的时刻到了,这个信封将揭晓结果。
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Jacques Rogge: I have the honor to announce
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雅克·罗格:我很荣幸在这里宣布
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that the games of the 31st Olympiad
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第31届奥林匹克运动会主办权将授予
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are awarded to the city of Rio de Janeiro.
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里约热内卢!
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(Cheering)
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(鼓掌欢呼)
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EP: Okay, that's very touching, very emotional,
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市长爱德华多•派希:这真是一个激动人心的感人时刻,
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but it was not easy to get there.
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但是申办的过程非常不易。
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Actually it was a very hard challenge.
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事实上,对我们来说,那是一个艰难的挑战。
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We had to beat the European monarchy.
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我们必须打败欧洲君主--
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This is Juan Carlos, king of Spain.
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西班牙国王胡安·卡洛斯一世(申办城市马德里)。
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We had to beat the powerful Japanese with all of their technology.
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我们必须打败拥有各种高科技的日本(申办城市东京)。
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We had to beat the most powerful man in the world
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我们还必须打败这世界上最强劲的对手(申办城市芝加哥)。
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defending his own city.
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他们都在为自己的城市战斗。
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So it was not easy at all.
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所以真的是困难重重。
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And actually this last guy here said a phrase a few years ago
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而事实上, 这最后一个人(奥巴马)在几年前说过一句话,
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that I think fits perfectly to the situation
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我觉得用在里约热内卢申办奥运这件事上
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of Rio winning the Olympic bid.
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非常贴切
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We really showed that, yes, we can.
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因为我们充分展示了这句话的含义:是的,我们可以。
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And really, this is the reason I came here tonight.
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事实上,这就是我今晚来这里的原因。
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I came here tonight to tell you
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我今天来到这里就是为了告诉你们,
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that things can be done,
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你完全可以实现目标,
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that you don't have always to be rich or powerful
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你未必要非常富有或者强大
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to get things on the way,
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才能把事情做好。
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that cities are a great challenge.
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建设城市是一项艰巨的任务,
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It's a difficult task to deal with cities.
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与城市打交道是困难重重,
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But with some original ways
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但是凭借很多有创新性的方法
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of getting things done,
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我们能够把事情做好。
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with some basic commandments,
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或者凭借基本的一些城市规划法则,
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you can really get cities
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你可以把这些城市
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to be a great, great place to live.
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变成适宜人类居住的舒适场所。
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I want you all to imagine Rio.
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我希望你们都能想像一下里约热内卢。
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You probably think about a city full of energy,
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你或许会想到一座充满生机活力的城市
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a vibrant city full of green.
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或者一个充满绿色的朝气蓬勃的城市。
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And nobody showed that better
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没有人能超越导演卡洛斯·沙尔丹哈在去年影片《里约大冒险》中
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than Carlos Saldanha in last year's "Rio."
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对里约热内卢的完美刻画。
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(Music)
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(音乐响起)
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(Video) Bird: This is incredible.
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(影片片断)蓝鸟:这简直不可思议!
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(Music)
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(音乐)
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EP: Okay, some parts of Rio are pretty much like that,
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市长爱德华多•派希:里约的有些地方确实如影片所描绘的一般,
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but it's not like that everywhere.
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但是却也不是处处如此。
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We're like every big city in the world.
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我们和世界上的每一个大城市一样,
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We've got lots of people,
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有很多人口、
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pollution, cars, concrete, lots of concrete.
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环境污染、车辆、钢筋混凝土的高楼大厦,很多很多。
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These pictures I'm showing here,
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我今天所展示给你们的照片
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they are some pictures from Madureira.
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有些是来自于马度雷拉。
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It's like the heart of the suburb in Rio.
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它是里约郊区的核心。
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And I want to use an example of Rio
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我想用里约热内卢的这个例子,
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that we're doing in Madureira, in this region,
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就是我们对马度雷拉这个地区的开发,
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to see what we should think as our first commandment.
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来阐述我们是如何构思第一个准则的。
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So every time you see a concrete jungle like that,
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每当你看到这样一个城市混凝土森林,
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what you've got to do is find open spaces.
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你要做的就是找到一个开放的空地。
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If you don't have open spaces,
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如果没有这样一块可用空间,
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you've got to go there and open spaces.
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你就必须在城市中开发出一些。
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So go inside these open spaces
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所以走到这些开放空间去,
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and make it that people can get inside
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并确保市民也能进入
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and use those spaces.
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并且利用这些空间。
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This is going to be the third largest park in Rio
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这里就将成为里约第三大公园,
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by June this year.
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在今年6月前。
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It's going to be a place where people can meet,
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这里将成为人们沟通交流的好地方,
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where you can put nature.
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也是接近自然的地方。
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The temperature's going to drop two, three degrees centigrade.
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这里将使附近的气温平均下降2-3度。
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So the first commandment
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所以第一条我建议的城市规划准则,
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I want to leave you tonight
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也是我今晚想带给你们的就是,
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is, a city of the future
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一个未来的城市
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has to be environmentally friendly.
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必须是一个环保的城市。
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Every time you think of a city,
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每次只要你想到这个城市,
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you've got to think green.
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你就会想到绿色。
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You've got to think green and green.
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你会想到一处又一处的绿色。
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So moving to our second commandment that I wanted to show you.
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接下来我们来看看第二条准则。
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Let's think that cities are made of people,
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让我们想一想,城市是由众多人口组成的,
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lots of people together.
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成千上万的人口,
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cities are packed with people.
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城市里往往挤满了人。
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So how do you move these people around?
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那么如何解决这些人的出行问题呢?
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When you have 3.5 billion people living in cities --
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尤其是当你有35亿人口居住在这些城市--
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by 2050, it's going to be 6 billion people.
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到2050年,将有60亿人口。
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So every time you think about moving these people around,
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因此每次当你想到这些人口流动量,
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you think about high-capacity transportation.
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你就会想到高容量的交通设施。
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But there is a problem.
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但是这里存在一个很现实的问题,
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High-capacity transportation means
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就是高容量交通运输意味着
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spending lots and lots of money.
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花费大笔大笔的资金。
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So what I'm going to show here
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所以今天我要在这里展示给大家的
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is something that was already presented in TED
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是已经在TED大会上
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by the former mayor of Curitiba
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由库里提巴市(巴西)前任市长杰米·勒纳
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who created that, a city in Brazil, Jaime Lerner.
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所展示过的创新理念。
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And it's something that we're doing, again, lots in Rio.
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我们也正在里约再次做这样同样的事情。
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It's the BRT, the Bus Rapid Transit.
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这就是BRT系统,全称“公交车捷运系统”。
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So you get a bus. It's a simple bus that everybody knows.
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你只需要一辆公交车,就是大众广泛所知的那种。
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You transform it inside as a train car.
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你把它的内部改成类似铁路的构造,
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You use separate lanes, dedicated lanes.
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并且开设单独的车道,或者专用车道。
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The contractors, they don't like that.
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对于承包商, 他们并不喜欢这个做法。
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You don't have to dig deep down underground.
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你不必在地下挖很深的隧道,
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You can build nice stations.
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而只需要建造一些漂亮的公交车站。
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This is actually a station that we're doing in Rio.
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这个就是我们现在在里约建造的车站。
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Again, you don't have to dig deep down underground
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再强调一下,你不必在地下挖轨道
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to make a station like that.
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来造这样一个车站。
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This station has the same comfort, the same features
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但是这些车站与地铁一样舒适,
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as a subway station.
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具有一样的特点。
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A kilometer of this costs a tenth of a subway.
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但是一千米长的公交系统造价只是地铁的十分之一。
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So spending much less money and doing it much faster,
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所以花更少的钱但是却很便捷。
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you can really change the way people move.
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你可以真正改变人们的出行方式。
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This is a map of Rio.
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这个是里约的城市地图。
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All the lines, the colored lines you see there,
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所有的线路,你可以看到彩色的线条,
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it's our high-capacity transportation network.
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都是我们的高容量公交系统网络。
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In this present time today,
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如今,
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we only carry 18 percent of our population
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我们只运载了
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in high-capacity transportation.
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全国18%的人口。
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With the BRTs we're doing,
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凭借这个BRT系统,
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again, the cheapest and fastest way,
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这种既廉价又迅速的方法,
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we're going to move to 63 percent of the population
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我们未来的目标是用这个高容量公交系统
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being carried by high-capacity transportation.
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运输63%的人口。
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So remember what I said:
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所以请记住我刚刚说过的话,
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You don't always have to be rich or powerful
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为了做好一件事
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to get things done.
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不一定要很有钱或者很有权力。
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You can find original ways to get things done.
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你可以找到创新性的方法来把事情做好。
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So the second commandment I want to leave you tonight
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因此我今晚想带给你们的第二个准则就是,
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is, a city of the future
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未来的城市
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has to deal with mobility and integration
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必须要妥善解决交通的便利性,
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of its people.
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以及城市居民生活的一体化。
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Moving to the third commandment.
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下面我们来看一看第三条准则,
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And this is the most controversial one.
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也是最具争议的一条。
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It has to do with the favelas, the slums --
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这与巴西特色的贫民区,或者叫贫民窟,有关。
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whatever you call it, there are different names all over the world.
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全世界有不同的表达方式,但都指同一个地区。
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But the point we want to make here tonight
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但是今天我们晚上要讨论的是,
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is, favelas are not always a problem.
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贫民窟并不永远是一个疑难杂症。
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I mean, favelas can sometimes
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我的意思是说,贫民窟有时候
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really be a solution,
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也可以成为一种解决问题的方法,
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if you deal with them,
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如果你认真处理这个问题,
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if you put public policy inside the favelas.
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如果你把国家政策贯彻到贫民窟中。
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Let me just show a map of Rio again.
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让我再次展示一下里约热内卢的地图。
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Rio has 6.3 million inhabitants --
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里约现在大约有630万居民,
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More than 20 percent, 1.4 million, live in the favelas.
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大约有超过20%,140万居住在贫民窟。
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All these red parts are favelas.
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所有这些红色区域就是贫民窟。
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So you see, they are spread all over the city.
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你可以看到他们散布在城市的各个角落。
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This is a typical view of a favela in Rio.
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这是里约最典型的贫民窟。
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You see the contrast between the rich and poor.
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你可以明显看到贫富差距的存在。
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So I want to make two points here tonight about favelas.
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因此,今晚我想就贫民窟问题提谈两点想法。
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The first one is,
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第一个是
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you can change from what I call a [vicious] circle
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你可以将这个“恶性循环”的现状
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to a virtual circle.
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转变为良性循环。
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But what you've got to do to get that
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但是要达到这样的效果,
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is you've got to go inside the favelas,
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你必须真正深入贫民窟,
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bring in the basic services --
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为他们带去基础生活设施建设,
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mainly education and health -- with high quality.
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主要是教育和医疗, 并且必须是高质量的。
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I'm going to give a fast example here.
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我给大家举一个小例子。
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This was an old building in a favela in Rio --
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这个是里约一栋古老的贫民窟楼房--
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[unclear favela name] --
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[贫民窟名字]
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that we just transformed into a primary school,
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我们刚刚把它改建成一所小学,
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with high quality.
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一座高质量的学堂。
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This is primary assistance in health
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这是我们为贫民窟提供的
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that we built inside a favela,
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主要医疗健康设施,
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again, with high quality.
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同样,它们是高质量保障的。
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We call it a family clinic.
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我们称之为家庭诊所。
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So the first point is bring basic services
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所以,第一要点就是把基础服务设施
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inside the favelas
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带到贫民窟去,
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with high quality.
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并保障它们的质量。
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The second point I want to make about the favelas
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第二个要点是
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is, you've got to open spaces in the favela.
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拓大贫民窟里的空间。
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Bring infrastructure
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把基础设施
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to the favelas, to the slums, wherever you are.
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投入到贫民窟中去,投入它的每一个角落。
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Rio has the aim, by 2020,
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到2020年,里约将实现目标,
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to have all its favelas completely urbanized.
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把所有贫民窟完全城市化。
07:47
Another example, this was completely packed with houses,
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另外一个例子:这些地方到处都是平房;
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and then we built this, what we call, a knowledge square.
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然后我们建造了这个,我们把它称为知识广场。
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This is a place with high technology
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这里有很多的高科技设施,
07:55
where the kids that live in a poor house next to this place
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住在这个广场旁边贫民窟的孩子们
07:58
can go inside and have access to all technology.
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可以进入这里,接触到高科技设备。
08:01
We even built a theater there -- 3D movie.
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我们甚至在那里建造了一个剧院,可以播放3D电影。
08:04
And this is the kind of change you can get for that.
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这种改变是你可以实现的。
08:08
And by the end of the day you get something better than a TED Prize,
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而这一天结束后,你可以得到比TED奖品更好的东西,
08:11
which is this great laugh
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那就是贫民窟孩子们
08:13
from a kid that lives in the favela.
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爽朗的笑声。
08:15
So the third commandment I want to leave here tonight
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那么今天我想给大家的第三个准则就是,
08:18
is, a city of the future
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一个未来的城市
08:21
has to be socially integrated.
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必须将它的各项社会服务职能统一起来。
08:23
You cannot deal with a city
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你不可能治理得好一个城市,
08:25
if it's not socially integrated.
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如果你不能调和社会各个方面的矛盾。
08:27
But moving to our fourth commandment,
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讨论到今天晚上第四个准则,
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I really wouldn't be here tonight.
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我今天本不应该在这里。
08:33
Between November and May, Rio's completely packed.
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在11月到5月之间,里约到处都挤满了人。
08:38
We just had last week Carnivale.
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我们上周刚刚庆祝完狂欢节。
08:40
It was great. It was lots of fun.
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非常棒,非常有趣。
08:42
We have New Year's Eve.
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我们度过了新年夜狂欢。
08:44
There's like two million people on Copacabana Beach.
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当天大约有200万人聚集在科帕卡巴纳海滩。
08:46
We have problems.
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我们也确实有很多问题。
08:48
We fight floods, tropical rains at this time of the year.
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我们每年这个时候都与洪水或者热带暴雨做斗争。
08:51
You can imagine how people get happy with me
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你可以想像,如果人们知道我时刻关注着这些事件,
08:53
watching these kinds of scenes.
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他们会多么高兴。
08:55
We have problems with the tropical rains.
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我们一直都有热带风暴问题。
08:58
Almost every year
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几乎每年,
09:00
we have these landslides, which are terrible.
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我们都面临滑坡的危险,非常恐怖。
09:02
But the reason I could come here
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但今天我能够来到这里来的原因
09:04
is because of that.
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就是它,
09:06
This was something we did with IBM
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就是我们与IBM合作的项目。
09:09
that's a little bit more than a year old.
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我们合作了有一年多。
09:11
It's what we call the Operations Center of Rio.
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我们称它为“里约运营中心”。
09:14
And I wanted to show that I can govern my city, using technology,
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下面我向大家展示一下如何运用科技管理我的城市,
09:17
from here, from Long Beach,
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从这个延绵的海滩开始。
09:19
so I got here last night and I know everything.
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虽然我昨天就达到这里,但是我知道在里约发生的所有事情。
09:21
We're going to speak now to the Operations Center.
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我们将与运营中心的人通话。
09:23
This is Osorio,
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这个是奥索里奥,
09:25
he's our secretary of urban affairs.
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他是城市规划发展部的秘书。
09:27
So Osorio, good to be there with you.
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奥索里奥,很高兴和你通话。
09:30
I've already told the people
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我已经告诉这里的人们
09:32
that we have tropical rain this time of year.
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我们今年这个时候有热带暴雨。
09:35
So how's the weather in Rio now?
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所以现在里约的天气怎么样?
09:37
Osorio: The weather is fine. We have fair weather today.
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奥索里奥:天气很好,我们这里晴空万里。
09:40
Let me get you our weather satellite radar.
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让我展示一下气象卫星雷达图。
09:43
You see just a little bit of moisture around the city.
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你看,城市中就只有一点点水气,
09:46
Absolutely no problem in the city in terms of weather,
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所以整个城市的天气
09:50
today and in the next few days.
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在未来几天内都会相当好。
09:52
EP: Okay, how's the traffic?
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市长:那交通状况怎么样呢?
09:54
We, at this time of year, get lots of traffic jams.
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我们在每年的这个时候,交通堵塞一直很严重。
09:56
People get mad at the mayor. So how's the traffic tonight?
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人们对市长都很愤怒。那么今晚的交通状况怎么样?
09:59
Osario: Well traffic tonight is fine.
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奥索里奥:今晚的交通状况良好。
10:01
Let me get you one of our 8,000 buses.
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我给你们看下8000条交通线路中的一条。
10:05
A live transmission in downtown Rio for you, Mr. Mayor.
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市长先生,请您看下里约市中心现场交通运输状况。
10:08
You see, the streets are clear.
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您可以看到,街道很畅通。
10:10
Now it's 11:00 pm in Rio.
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现在是里约晚上11点。
10:13
Nothing of concern in terms of traffic.
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没有任何问题。
10:15
I'll get to you now the incidents of the day.
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我还要向您报告一下今天的交通意外情况。
10:18
We had heavy traffic early in the morning
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我们今天早上早些时候
10:21
and in the rush hour in the afternoon,
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和下午高峰期间交通拥堵状况比较严重,
10:23
but nothing of big concern.
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但是都没有发生大的意外事故。
10:25
We are below average
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城市交通意外发生率
10:27
in terms of traffic incidents in the city.
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处于平均水平之下。
10:29
EP: Okay, so you're showing now some public services.
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市长:好的,你能否再给我们展示公共服务的情况。
10:31
These are the cars.
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解释一下这些汽车的作用。
10:33
Osorio: Absolutely, Mr. Mayor.
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奥索里奥:当然,市长先生。
10:35
Let me get you the fleet of our waste collection trucks.
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让我给你们展示一下废物回收车的状况。
10:38
This is live transmission.
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这个也是现场转播。
10:40
We have GPS's in all of our trucks.
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我们在所有的卡车上都装有GPS导航系统。
10:42
And you can see them working
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你可以看到他们正在运作,
10:44
in all parts of the city.
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在城市的各个地方
10:46
Waste collection on time.
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准时收集废物。
10:48
Public services working well.
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公共服务系统运作良好。
10:50
EP: Okay, Osorio, thank you very much.
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市长:好的,奥利索奥,非常感谢你的展示。
10:52
It was great to have you here.
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很高兴你能参加到这次演讲中。
10:54
We're going to move so that I can make a conclusion.
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让我们把镜头切回现场,做最后的总结。
10:56
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
10:59
Okay, so no files, this place, no paperwork,
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好的,在这个运营中心里,没有文档,没有纸质文件,
11:03
no distance, 24/7 working.
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没有距离,全年全天候24小时工作。
11:06
So the fourth commandment I want to share with you here tonight
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所以今晚我想和大家分享的第四个准则就是,
11:09
is, a city of the future
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未来的城市
11:11
has to use technology to be present.
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需要充分利用科学技术。
11:13
I don't need to be there anymore to know and to administrate the city.
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我不一定非要呆在那里才可以了解和管理我的城市。
11:16
But everything that I said here tonight, or the commandments,
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但是今晚我所说的所有的东西,所有的准则,
11:19
are means, are ways,
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都是一些帮助我们管理城市的
11:21
for us to govern cities --
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手段和方法--
11:24
invest in infrastructure, invest in the green,
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包括基础设施建设的投资、绿色环保的投资、
11:26
open parks, open spaces,
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公园扩建、空间空地扩建、
11:28
integrate socially, use technology.
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社会资源整合和高科技的利用。
11:31
But at the end of the day, when we talk about cities,
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但是在今天演讲的最后, 当我们讨论城市的时候,
11:34
we talk about a gathering of people.
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我们还会讨论人口的增长。
11:36
And we cannot see that as a problem.
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我们不能把它看成一个问题。
11:38
That is fantastic.
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它其实非常美妙。
11:40
If there's 3.5 billion now,
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如果现在有35亿人口,
11:42
it's going to be six billion then it's going to be 10 billion.
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将来会变成60亿,然后是100亿。
11:44
That is great, that means we're going to have
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这太棒了, 这意味着我们将要有
11:47
10 billion minds working together,
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100亿个大脑一同思考工作,
11:49
10 billion talents together.
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100亿个有各种天赋的人聚一起。
11:52
So a city of the future,
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所以未来的城市,
11:54
I really do believe
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我非常确信,
11:56
that it's a city that cares about its citizens,
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应当是一个关心每一个居民的城市,
11:59
integrates socially its citizens.
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并且能够把市民们凝聚在一起。
12:01
A city of the future is a city that can never let anyone out
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未来的城市是一个不会
12:04
of this great party, which are cities.
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让任何一个人被孤立在外的城市。
12:06
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢!
12:08
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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