How technology changes our sense of right and wrong | Juan Enriquez

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翻译人员: 校对人员: Jiasi Hao
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In an era of extreme polarization,
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在两极极度分化的时代,
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it's really dangerous to talk about right and wrong.
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谈论是非十分危险。
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You can be targeted, judged for something you said 10 years ago, 10 months ago,
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无论是你在十年前、 十个月前、十小时前,
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10 hours ago, 10 seconds ago.
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还是十秒前说过的话, 都会被人针对,遭人议论。
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And that means that those who think you're wrong
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这意味着 那些认为“你是错的”的人
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may burn you at the stake
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会让你如临炮烙之刑。
00:31
or those who are on your side
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而那些与你相同阵营
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that think you're not sufficiently orthodox
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却认为你站队不够彻底的人
00:36
may try and cancel you.
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会试图将你封杀。
00:37
As you're thinking about right and wrong, I want you to consider three ideas.
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如果你要思考是与非, 我希望你思考三个点。
00:41
What if right and wrong is something that changes over time.
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假如是非概念会随着 时间流逝而变化,
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What if right and wrong is something that can change because of technology.
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假如是非概念会因为 科技进步而变化,
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What if technology is moving exponentially?
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假如科技会呈指数级发展, 会怎么样?
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So as you're thinking about this concept,
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当你在思考这个概念时,
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remember human sacrifice used to be normal and natural.
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别忘了活人献祭 也曾被认为是自然常态,
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It was a way of appeasing the gods.
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一种绥靖众神的方式。
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Otherwise the rain wouldn't come,
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否则雨水不至、
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the sun wouldn't shine.
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太阳无辉。
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Public executions.
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示众处刑
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They were common, normal, legal.
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也是常事,合规合法。
01:08
You used to take your kids to watch beheadings in the streets of Paris.
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曾经的人们还会带着孩子, 在巴黎街头观看斩首处刑。
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One of the greatest wrongs, slavery,
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其中一项极恶:奴役制。
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indentured servitude,
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契约奴隶,
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that was something that was practiced for millennia.
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实施了上千年的制度
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It was practiced across the Incas, the Mayas, the Chinese,
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曾经奴役着 印加人、玛雅人、中国人,
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the Indians in North and South America.
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以及南北美洲的印第安人。
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And as you're thinking about this,
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当你在思考时,
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one question is why did something so wrong last for so long?
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要问个问题:为何如此恶劣的制度 会延续这么长的时间?
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And a second question is: why did it go away?
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第二个问题: 它又为什么消失了?
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And why did it go away in a few short decades in legal terms?
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为什么在短短几十年间 它就不合法了?
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Certainly there was a work
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这当然少不了那些伟大的、
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by extraordinary abolitionists who risked their lives,
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奋不顾身的废奴主义者的努力,
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but there may be something else happening alongside these brave abolitionists.
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但这些勇敢的废奴主义者 也许并不是仅有的原因。
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Consider energy and the industrial revolution.
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想一想能源与工业革命。
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A single barrel of oil contains the energy equivalent
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单单一桶油足以储备
五到十人劳动力的能量。
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of the work of five to 10 people.
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02:05
Add that to machines,
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配以机械,
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and suddenly you've got millions of people's equivalent labor
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你就陡然拥有了等同于 数百万人的劳动力,
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at your disposal.
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任你支配。
02:14
You can quit oppressing people and have a doubling in lifespan
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你可以不再压迫人民
让人类的寿限在停滞不变了 上千年后出现倍增。
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after a flattened lifespan for millennia.
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02:22
The world economy, which had been flat for millennia,
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世界经济水平, 在停滞不变了上千年后
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all of a sudden explodes.
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也都出现了暴增。
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And you get enormous amounts of wealth and food and other things
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你可以得到丰厚的财富和粮食等产出,
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produced by far fewer hands.
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而生产所需的劳动力却大幅减少了。
02:35
Technology changes the way we interact with each other in fundamental ways.
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科技从根本上 改变了人与人之间的交互方式。
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New technologies like the machine gun
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新技术如机关枪
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completely changed the nature of warfare in World War I.
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在第一次世界大战 彻底改变了战争的本质。
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It drove people into trenches.
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肉体对抗成了战壕对抗。
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You were in the British trench, or you were in the German trench.
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你要么身在英军战壕, 要么身在德军战壕。
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Anything in between was no man's land.
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双方战壕间的区域是一片不毛之地。
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You entered no man's land.
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你若步入其中,
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You were shot. You were killed.
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就会被枪击,被射杀。
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You tried to leave the trench in the other direction.
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而你若试图朝另一个方向 逃离战壕,
和你同阵营的人就会向你开枪,
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Then your own side would shoot you
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03:01
because you were a deserter.
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因为你是逃兵。
03:03
In a weird way, today's machine guns are narrowcast social media.
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在某种程度上,窄播特定群体的 社交媒体就是当代的机关枪。
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We're shooting at each other.
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我们相互射击,
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We're shooting at those we think are wrong
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向那些认为我们不对的人开枪。
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with posts, with tweets, with photographs, with accusations, with comments.
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贴文、博客、照片、指控、评论 就是我们的子弹。
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And what it's done is it's created these two trenches
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这样的后果 就是产生了两道战壕,
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where you have to be either in this trench or that trench.
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而你必须选择为其一而战。
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And there's almost no middle ground to meet each other,
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战壕之间几乎没有中立之地,
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to try and find some sort of a discussion between right and wrong.
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无法展开是非对错的讨论。
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As you drive around the United States, you see signs on lawns.
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如果你在美国开车, 你会看草坪上立着的标语。
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Some say, "Black Lives Matter."
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有的写着:“黑人的命也是命”,
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Others say, "We support the police."
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有的写着:“我们支持警察”。
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You very rarely see both signs on the same lawn.
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但你鲜少能看见 这两种标语立在一块。
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And yet if you ask people,
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而如果你直接向人提问,
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most people would probably support Black Lives Matter
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大部分人应该即会支持 “黑人的命也是命”,
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and they would also support their police.
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也会支持他们的警察。
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So as you think of these polarized times,
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所以当你想到这些两极分化的时期,
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as you think of right and wrong,
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当你想到这些是非对错,
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you have to understand that right and wrong changes
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你必须明白是与非都会转变,
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and is now changing in exponential ways.
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而现在这种转变也在呈指数变化。
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Take the issue of gay marriage.
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拿同性婚姻来说。
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In 1996, two-thirds of the US population was against gay marriage.
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1996 年,三分之二的美国人 反对同性婚姻。
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Today two-thirds is for.
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而今天的三分之二表示支持。
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It's almost 180-degree shift in the opinion.
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近乎于 180 度的态度转变。
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In part, this is because of protests,
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部分因素, 在于有人抗议,
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because people came out of the closet,
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在于有人公开出柜,
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because of AIDS,
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以及艾滋病的出现,
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but a great deal of it has to do with social media.
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但很大一部分原因 必然和社交媒体有关。
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A great deal of it has to do with people out in our homes,
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很大一部分原因必然在于
人们可以在自己的家中、卧室里, 通过电视、电影、贴文,
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in our living rooms, through television, through film, through posts,
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04:36
through people being comfortable enough,
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通过自己觉得能自在相处的人,
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our friends, our neighbors, our family,
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通过朋友、邻居、家人
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to say, "I'm gay."
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来发声:“我是同志”。
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And this has shifted opinion
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甚至连最为保守的地域
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even in some of the most conservative of places.
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也因此转变了态度。
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Take the Pope.
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拿教皇来说。
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As Cardinal in 2010,
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2010 年,在他还是红衣主教时,
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he was completely against gay marriage.
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他彻底反对同性婚姻。
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He becomes Pope.
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他后来当了教皇。
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And three years after the last sentence
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当上教皇的三年后
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he comes out with "Who am I to judge?"
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他对外称:“我有什么资格评论?”
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And then today, he's in favor of civil unions.
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而今天,他赞同各式民事结合。
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As you're thinking about technology changing ethics,
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当你想到科技改变道德准则,
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you also have to consider that technology is now moving exponentially.
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你也得考虑到科技如今 也在呈指数级变化。
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As right and wrong changes,
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随着是与非的转变,
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if you take the position, "I know right.
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如果你的立场是: 我知道什么是对的。
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And if you completely disagree with me, if you partially disagree with me,
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如果你彻底反对我, 如果你有所选择地反对我,
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if you even quibble with me, then you're wrong,"
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如果你对我稍有非议, 你就是错的。
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then there's no discussion,
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那就不会有讨论、
不会有容忍,或进步, 自然也没有学习了。
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no tolerance, no evolution, and certainly no learning.
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Most of us are not vegetarians yet.
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我们大部分人都还不是素食主义者。
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Then again, we haven't had
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再次,我们以前也没有多少
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a whole lot of faster, better, cheaper alternatives to meat.
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更便捷、更优质、 更廉价的肉类替代品,
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But now that we're getting synthetic meats,
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但现在我们有合成肉类。
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as the price drops from 380,000 dollars in 2013
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其价格从 2013 年的 38 万美元
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to 9 dollars today,
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降到了如今的 9 美元,
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a great big chunk of people
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许多人将因此
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are going to start becoming vegetarian or quasi-vegetarian.
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开始成为素食或准素食主义者。
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And then in retrospect, these pictures
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再回看过去的照片,
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of walking into the fanciest, most expensive restaurants in town
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人们走进城里最奢华、 最昂贵的餐厅,
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and walking past racks of bloody steaks
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经过一排排汁血淋漓的牛排。
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is going to look very different in 10 years, in 20 years and 30 years.
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10年、20年、30年后再来看, 人们都会对这场景有不同看法。
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In these polarized times,
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在这两极分化的时代,
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I'd like to revive two words you rarely hear today:
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我想重拾两个如今鲜少听到的词:
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humility and forgiveness.
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人性和原谅。
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When you judge the past, your ancestors, your forefathers,
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当你评论过去, 评论父辈和先人时,
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do so with a little bit more humility,
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要怀有更多的人性。
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because perhaps if you'd been educated in that time,
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因为如果你也受教于那个时代,
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if you'd lived in that time,
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如果你也生活在那个时代,
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you would've done a lot of things wrong.
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你也会做出许多错事。
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Not because they're right.
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不是因为他们是对的,
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Not because we don't see they're wrong today,
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不是因为 我们现在认为他们是对的,
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but simply because our notions,
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仅仅只是因为我们的观念、
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our understanding of right and wrong change across time.
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我们的是非观随着时间转变了。
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The second word, forgiveness.
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第二个词,原谅。
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Forgiveness is incredibly important these days.
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原谅在当今极其重要。
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You cannot cancel somebody for saying the wrong word,
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不能因为某个人说错了话、 或是在十年前犯了错,
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for having done something 10 years ago,
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或是因为你觉得此人
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for having triggered you and not being a hundred percent right.
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无法保持百分百的正确 而将此人封杀。
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To build a community, you have to build it and talk to people
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要创建一个社群,
你必须在创建的同时 和那些观点跟你千差万别的人
07:01
and learn from people
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07:02
who may have very different points of view from yours.
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保持对话和学习。
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You have to allow them a space
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你必须为他们保留空间,
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instead of creating a no man's land.
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而非创造一片不毛之地。
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A middle ground, a ??? and a space of empathy.
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一个中立之地, 一个能相互感同身受的空间。
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This is a time to build community.
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这是一个创建社群的时代,
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This is not a time to continue ripping nations apart.
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不是继续民族分化的时代。
07:20
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢。
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