How technology changes our sense of right and wrong | Juan Enriquez

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譯者: Lilian Chiu 審譯者: Helen Chang
00:13
In an era of extreme polarization,
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在嚴重兩級化的時代,
00:15
it's really dangerous to talk about right and wrong.
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談「對錯」是很危險的事。
00:20
You can be targeted, judged for something you said 10 years ago, 10 months ago,
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你可能會成為目標,被評斷,
只因為你在十年前、十個月前、
00:25
10 hours ago, 10 seconds ago.
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十小時前、十秒鐘前說了某些話。
00:28
And that means that those who think you're wrong
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那就表示,認為你錯了的人,
00:30
may burn you at the stake
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會嚴厲懲罰你,
00:31
or those who are on your side
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或者站在你這一邊的人
00:34
that think you're not sufficiently orthodox
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若認為你不夠正統, 可能會試圖排擠你。
00:36
may try and cancel you.
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00:37
As you're thinking about right and wrong, I want you to consider three ideas.
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當你在想著對錯時, 我希望你能考量三個想法。
00:41
What if right and wrong is something that changes over time.
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如果對錯會隨著時間改變呢?
00:46
What if right and wrong is something that can change because of technology.
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如果對錯會隨著科技改變呢?
00:50
What if technology is moving exponentially?
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如果科技是以指數的速度在發展呢?
00:53
So as you're thinking about this concept,
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所以,當你正在思考這個概念時,
00:56
remember human sacrifice used to be normal and natural.
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別忘了,活人獻祭也曾 被視為是合乎常情的事。
00:59
It was a way of appeasing the gods.
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那是一種讓神息怒的方式。
01:00
Otherwise the rain wouldn't come,
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要不然,雨就不會降下來, 太陽就不會照耀。
01:02
the sun wouldn't shine.
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01:04
Public executions.
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公開行刑。
01:06
They were common, normal, legal.
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也曾是常見、正常、合法的。
01:08
You used to take your kids to watch beheadings in the streets of Paris.
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以前人會帶孩子 到巴黎街上去看斬首。
01:12
One of the greatest wrongs, slavery,
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最大的錯誤之一,奴隸制度,
01:15
indentured servitude,
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用契約約束的奴役,
01:17
that was something that was practiced for millennia.
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卻行之有數千年。
01:21
It was practiced across the Incas, the Mayas, the Chinese,
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包括印加人、馬雅人、中國人、
北美洲和南美洲的 印地安人都有這麼做。
01:25
the Indians in North and South America.
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01:29
And as you're thinking about this,
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當你在思考這些時,
01:31
one question is why did something so wrong last for so long?
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想想一個問題,為什麼 錯得這麼離譜的事
會持續這麼久?
01:36
And a second question is: why did it go away?
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還有一個問題:它為什麼會消失?
01:39
And why did it go away in a few short decades in legal terms?
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為什麼在短短幾十年間, 它就不再合法了?
01:43
Certainly there was a work
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這背後一定有一些 了不起的廢奴主義者做出貢獻,
01:45
by extraordinary abolitionists who risked their lives,
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01:49
but there may be something else happening alongside these brave abolitionists.
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但除了這些勇敢的廢奴主義者 之外,可能還有其他因素。
01:54
Consider energy and the industrial revolution.
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想想看能源及工業革命。
01:58
A single barrel of oil contains the energy equivalent
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單一桶石油所含的能源就等同於
02:02
of the work of five to 10 people.
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5~10 個人的工作力。
02:05
Add that to machines,
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再加上機器,
02:07
and suddenly you've got millions of people's equivalent labor
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突然間,你就可以自行支配
等同於數百萬人的勞動力。
02:12
at your disposal.
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02:14
You can quit oppressing people and have a doubling in lifespan
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可以不用再壓迫人,
且在壽命持續數千年都沒有之後,
02:19
after a flattened lifespan for millennia.
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可以延長為兩倍了。
02:22
The world economy, which had been flat for millennia,
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世界經濟也持平了數千年,
02:25
all of a sudden explodes.
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突然間就爆衝起來。
02:27
And you get enormous amounts of wealth and food and other things
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你還能得到大量的財富、
食物,及其他東西,
02:32
produced by far fewer hands.
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而且是用更少的人力所生產。
02:35
Technology changes the way we interact with each other in fundamental ways.
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科技從根本上改變了 我們與彼此互動的方式。
02:40
New technologies like the machine gun
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像機關槍這類新科技
02:42
completely changed the nature of warfare in World War I.
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在第一次世界大戰中 完全改變了戰爭的本質。
02:46
It drove people into trenches.
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讓人必須要躲到戰壕裡。
02:48
You were in the British trench, or you were in the German trench.
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你若不是在英國的戰壕裡, 就是在德國的戰壕裡。
02:51
Anything in between was no man's land.
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兩者之間只有無人地帶。
02:53
You entered no man's land.
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你若是進入無人地帶, 就會中槍,就會被殺。
02:55
You were shot. You were killed.
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02:57
You tried to leave the trench in the other direction.
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你若是嘗試朝另一個方向離開戰壕,
03:00
Then your own side would shoot you
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你自己這一邊的人會射殺你, 因為你是逃兵。
03:01
because you were a deserter.
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03:03
In a weird way, today's machine guns are narrowcast social media.
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就一種很奇怪的意義來說, 現今的機關槍就是窄播社群媒體。
03:09
We're shooting at each other.
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我們在朝彼此開槍。 認為誰錯了,就朝誰開槍,
03:10
We're shooting at those we think are wrong
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03:12
with posts, with tweets, with photographs, with accusations, with comments.
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我們的子彈包括貼文、 推文、照片、指控、評論。
03:17
And what it's done is it's created these two trenches
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造成的結果就是產生了兩條戰壕,
03:20
where you have to be either in this trench or that trench.
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你若不是在這條戰壕內, 就是在那條戰壕內。
03:24
And there's almost no middle ground to meet each other,
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兩者之間幾乎沒有 妥協區域可以讓大家相會
03:27
to try and find some sort of a discussion between right and wrong.
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並試圖找到對錯之間的討論。
03:33
As you drive around the United States, you see signs on lawns.
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當你在美國開車時,
會看到草皮上立著標語。
03:37
Some say, "Black Lives Matter."
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有些寫著「黑命貴」。
03:40
Others say, "We support the police."
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也有些寫著「我們支持警察」。
03:42
You very rarely see both signs on the same lawn.
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很難看到一片草皮上 同時有這兩種標語。
03:47
And yet if you ask people,
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但,如果你去問別人,
03:49
most people would probably support Black Lives Matter
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大部分人可能會支持黑命貴,
03:52
and they would also support their police.
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且他們同時也支持他們的警察。
03:54
So as you think of these polarized times,
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當你在思考這些兩極化的時期,
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as you think of right and wrong,
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當你在思考對錯,
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you have to understand that right and wrong changes
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你必須要了解,對錯會改變,
04:01
and is now changing in exponential ways.
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且現在是以指數的速度在改變。
04:04
Take the issue of gay marriage.
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以同性婚姻為例。
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In 1996, two-thirds of the US population was against gay marriage.
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1996 年,所有美國人中 有 3 分之 2 反對同性婚姻。
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Today two-thirds is for.
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現今,有 3 分之 2 支持。
04:13
It's almost 180-degree shift in the opinion.
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這幾乎可說是看法 180 度大轉變。
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In part, this is because of protests,
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有部分的原因是抗議,
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because people came out of the closet,
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因為同志出櫃,
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because of AIDS,
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因為愛滋病,
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but a great deal of it has to do with social media.
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但有很大一部分是因為社群媒體。
04:27
A great deal of it has to do with people out in our homes,
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有很大一部分是因為我們家裡的人,
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in our living rooms, through television, through film, through posts,
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我們客廳裡的人,透過電視, 透過電影,透過貼文,
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through people being comfortable enough,
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透過相處夠自在的人,
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our friends, our neighbors, our family,
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我們的朋友,我們的鄰居, 我們的家人,說出「我是同志」。
04:41
to say, "I'm gay."
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04:43
And this has shifted opinion
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這造成了看法的轉變,
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even in some of the most conservative of places.
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就連一些最保守的地方也是如此。
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Take the Pope.
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以教宗為例。
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As Cardinal in 2010,
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2010 年,身為樞機主教,
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he was completely against gay marriage.
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他完全反對同性婚姻。
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He becomes Pope.
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他成了教宗。
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And three years after the last sentence
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上次發表意見之後 3 年,
04:59
he comes out with "Who am I to judge?"
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他說出「我有什麼資格評斷?」
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And then today, he's in favor of civil unions.
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現今,他則是支持民事結合。
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As you're thinking about technology changing ethics,
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當你在思考科技改變倫理的議題時,
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you also have to consider that technology is now moving exponentially.
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你也得考量現今科技 是以指數的速度在發展。
05:12
As right and wrong changes,
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隨著對錯不斷改變,
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if you take the position, "I know right.
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如果你選擇的立場是 「我知道什麼是對的。
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And if you completely disagree with me, if you partially disagree with me,
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如果你完全不認同我, 如果你部分不認同我,
如果你跟我爭論,那你就是錯的。」
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if you even quibble with me, then you're wrong,"
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05:23
then there's no discussion,
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那麼,就不會有討論, 不會有包容,不會有進展,
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no tolerance, no evolution, and certainly no learning.
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肯定也不會有學習。
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Most of us are not vegetarians yet.
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我們大部分人還不是素食者。
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Then again, we haven't had
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然而,我們還沒有其他更快速、 更佳、更便宜的選擇可以代替肉類。
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a whole lot of faster, better, cheaper alternatives to meat.
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05:37
But now that we're getting synthetic meats,
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但現在我們可以取得人造合成肉,
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as the price drops from 380,000 dollars in 2013
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其價格從 2013 年的 38 萬美金
掉到現在的 9 塊美金,
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to 9 dollars today,
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05:46
a great big chunk of people
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許多人將會開始變成
05:47
are going to start becoming vegetarian or quasi-vegetarian.
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素食者或半素食者。
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And then in retrospect, these pictures
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將來回頭看,這樣的畫面,
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of walking into the fanciest, most expensive restaurants in town
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走進鎮上最炫最貴的餐廳,
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and walking past racks of bloody steaks
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經過的架子上放著血淋淋的牛排,
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is going to look very different in 10 years, in 20 years and 30 years.
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10 年、20 年、30 年後 這樣的畫面看起來會大不同。
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In these polarized times,
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在這些兩極化的時期,
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I'd like to revive two words you rarely hear today:
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我想要重提兩個現今很難聽到的詞:
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humility and forgiveness.
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謙卑和寬恕。
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When you judge the past, your ancestors, your forefathers,
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當你評斷過去、 你的祖先、你的先人時,
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do so with a little bit more humility,
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別忘了帶著一點謙卑,
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because perhaps if you'd been educated in that time,
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因為,如果你是在 那個時期接受教育,
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if you'd lived in that time,
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如果你生活在那個時期,
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you would've done a lot of things wrong.
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你可能會做錯許多事。
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Not because they're right.
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並非因為它們是對的。
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Not because we don't see they're wrong today,
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並非因為現今我們 不把它們視為錯的,
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but simply because our notions,
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只單純是因為我們的見解,
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our understanding of right and wrong change across time.
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我們對於對錯的了解, 會隨時間而改變。
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The second word, forgiveness.
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第二個詞,寬恕。
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Forgiveness is incredibly important these days.
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現今,寬恕極度重要。
06:47
You cannot cancel somebody for saying the wrong word,
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你不能因為某人說錯話就排擠他,
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for having done something 10 years ago,
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因為他 10 年前做的事就排擠他,
06:53
for having triggered you and not being a hundred percent right.
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因為他觸怒你或沒有 100% 正確就排擠他。
06:57
To build a community, you have to build it and talk to people
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要建立起共同體,你必須要 去跟別人談,向別人學習,
07:01
and learn from people
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07:02
who may have very different points of view from yours.
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即便是觀點與你大大相逕庭的人。
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You have to allow them a space
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你必須要留一個空間給他們,
07:08
instead of creating a no man's land.
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而不是創造無人地帶。
07:10
A middle ground, a ??? and a space of empathy.
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一個妥協區域、一個???, 以及一個同理的空間。
07:15
This is a time to build community.
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現在是該建立共同體的時候。
07:16
This is not a time to continue ripping nations apart.
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現在不是該持續撕裂國家的時候。
07:20
Thank you very much.
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非常謝謝。
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