Megan Kamerick: Women should represent women in media

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Prevodilac: Nikola Mitrovic Lektor: Mile Živković
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Like most journalists, I'm an idealist.
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Kao većina novinara i ja sam idealista.
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I love unearthing good stories, especially untold stories.
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Volim neistražene dobre priče, pogotovo neispričane.
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I just didn't think that in 2011,
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Prosto nisam mislila da će, u 2011,
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women would still be in that category.
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žene još uvek biti u toj kategoriji.
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I'm the President of the Journalism and Women Symposium -- JAWS.
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Ja sam predsednica Novinarskog i ženskog simpozijuma,
JAWS. To je Šarki. (Smeh)
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That's Sharky.
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(Laughter)
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I joined 10 years ago because I wanted female role models,
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Pridružila sam se pre 10 godina jer sam želela ženske uzore,
i bila sam frustrirana zbog zaostajanja položaja žena
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and I was frustrated by the lagging status of women in our profession
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u našoj profesiji i time šta je to značilo za naš ugled
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and what that meant for our image in the media.
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u medijima.
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We make up half the population of the world,
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Mi činimo polovinu svetske populacije,
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but we're just 24 percent of the news subjects
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ali smo samo u 24 procenta novinskih subjekata
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quoted in news stories.
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navedenih u vestima
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And we're just 20 percent of the experts quoted in stories.
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i mi smo samo 20 posto stručnjaka navedenih u pričama,
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And now, with today's technology,
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i sad, sa današnjom tehnologijom,
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it's possible to remove women from the picture completely.
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moguće je odstraniti žene sa slike u potpunosti.
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This is a picture of President Barack Obama and his advisors,
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Ovo je slika predsednika Baraka Obame
i njegovih savetnika, dok prate ubistvo Osame bin Ladena.
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tracking the killing of Osama bin Laden.
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You can see Hillary Clinton on the right.
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Desno možete videti Hilari Klinton.
Pogledajmo kako se slika prikazala
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Let's see how the photo ran
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in an Orthodox Jewish newspaper based in Brooklyn.
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u jednim jevrejskim novinama sa sedištem u Bruklinu.
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Hillary's completely gone.
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Nema Hilari. (Smeh)
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(Laughter)
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The paper apologized, but said it never runs photos of women;
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Novine su se izvinile ali su rekli da
nikada ne prikazuju slike žena.
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they might be sexually provocative.
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One mogu biti seksualno provokativne. (Smeh)
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(Laughter)
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This is an extreme case, yes.
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Ovo je ekstreman slučaj, da, ali činjenica je da
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But the fact is,
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su žene samo u 19 posto izvora
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women are only 19 percent of the sources in stories on politics,
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u pričama u vezi sa politikom
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and only 20 percent in stories on the economy.
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i u samo 20 posto u pričama u vezi sa ekonomijom.
Vesti nastavljaju da nam daju sliku gde muškarci
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The news continues to give us a picture
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nadmašuju žene u skoro svim profesionalni kategorijama
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where men outnumber women
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in nearly all occupational categories, except two:
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osim u dve: učenice i domaćice. (Smeh)
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students and homemakers.
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01:47
(Laughter)
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So we all get a very distorted picture of reality.
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Dakle svi dobijamo veoma iskrivljenu sliku stvarnosti.
Problem je, naravno,
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The problem is, of course, there aren't enough women in newsrooms.
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što ne postoji dovoljno žena u novinarskim redakcijama.
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They report at just 37 percent of stories in print, TV and radio.
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One su izvestile samo 37 posto priča
u novinama, TV-u i na radiju.
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Even in stories on gender-based violence,
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Čak i u pričama o rodno zasnovanom nasilju,
muškarci dobijaju ogromnu većinu u štampanom prostoru
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men get an overwhelming majority of print space and airtime.
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i emitovanju.
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Case in point:
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U skladu sa tim,
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This March, the New York Times ran a story by James McKinley
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ovog marta, Njujork tajms objavljuje priču
Džejmsa Mekinlija o grupnom silovanju devojčice,
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about a gang rape of a young girl,
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11 years old, in a small Texas town.
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od 11 godina, u malom gradu u Teksasu.
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McKinley writes that the community is wondering,
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Mekinli piše da se zajednica pita:
''Kako su njihovi momci mogli biti uvučeni u ovo?''
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"How could their boys have been drawn into this?"
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''uvučeni u ovo,'' kao da su bili
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"Drawn into this" --
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like they were seduced into committing an act of violence.
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zavedeni u čin nasilnog dela.
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And the first person he quotes says,
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I prva osoba koju on citira kaže:
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"These boys will have to live with this the rest of their lives."
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''Ovi momci će morati da žive sa ovim ostatak svojih života''
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(Groans, laughter)
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(Publika reaguje, smeh)
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You don't hear much about the 11-year-old victim,
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Ne čujete mnogo o 11-ogodišnjoj žrtvi,
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except that she wore clothes that were a little old for her
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osim da je nosila odeću koja je bila malo starija za njen uzrast
i da je nosila šminku.
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and she wore makeup.
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The Times was deluged with criticism.
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Tajms je bio preplavljen kritikama.
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Initially, it defended itself,
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Na početku, branio se, i rekao: ''Ovo nisu naši pogledi.
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and said, "These aren't our views.
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Ovo smo našli u našim izveštavanjima.''
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This is what we found in our reporting."
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Now, here's a secret you probably know already:
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Sada, ovde je tajna koju verovatno već znate:
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Your stories are constructed.
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Vaše priče su konstruisane.
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As reporters, we research, we interview.
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Kao reporteri, istražujemo, intervjuišemo.
Pokušavamo da predstavimo dobru sliku stvarnosti.
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We try to give a good picture of reality.
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We also have our own unconscious biases.
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Mi takođe imamo naše nesvesne pristrasnosti,
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But The Times makes it sound like anyone would have reported this story
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ali Tajms čini da to zvuči
kao da bi svako izveštavao o ovoj priči na isti ovaj način.
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the same way.
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I disagree with that.
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Nisam saglasna sa tim.
Ttri sedmice kasnije, ponovo posećuju tu priču.
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So three weeks later,
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The Times revisits the story.
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This time, it adds another byline to it with McKinley's:
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Ovog puta, dodaje se još jedno ime Mekinlijevom:
Erika Gud.
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Erica Goode.
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What emerges is a truly sad, horrific tale
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Iz ovoga nastaje istinski tužna, užasavajuća priča devojčice
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of a young girl and her family trapped in poverty.
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i njene porodice zarobljene u siromaštvu.
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She was raped numerous times by many men.
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Nju je više puta silovalo mnogo muškaraca.
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She had been a bright, easygoing girl.
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Bila je bistra, bezbrižna devojčica.
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She was maturing quickly, physically,
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Odrasla je brzo, fizički,
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but her bed was still covered with stuffed animals.
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ali je njen krevet još uvek bio prekriven plišanim lutkama.
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It's a very different picture.
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To je veoma drugačija slika.
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Perhaps the addition of Ms. Goode is what made this story more complete.
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Možda je dodatak gđice Gud
učinio ovu priču potpunijom.
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The Global Media Monitoring Project has found that stories by female reporters
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Globalni projekat monitoringa medija otkrio je da
priče žensih reportera češće
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are more likely to challenge stereotypes than those by male reporters.
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izazivaju predrasude nego one muških reportera.
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At KUNM here in Albuquerque,
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U KUNM-u ovde u Albukerkiju, Elejn Baumgartel
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Elaine Baumgartel did some graduate research
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uradila je neka diplomska istraživanja o pokrivenosti
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on the coverage of violence against women.
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nasilja protiv žena.
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What she found was many of these stories tend to blame victims
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Ono što je pronašla bilo je da većina ovih priča
ima težnju da krivi žrtve i potcenjuje njihove živote.
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and devalue their lives.
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They tend to sensationalize, and they lack context.
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Skloni su da prave senzaciju i nedostaje im kontekst.
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So for her graduate work,
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Dakle za svoj diplomski rad, uradila je seriju iz tri dela
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she did a three-part series on the murder of 11 women,
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u vezi sa ubistvima 11 žena
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found buried on Albuquerque's West Mesa.
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koje su nađene zakopane u Zapadnoj Mesi u Albukerkiju.
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She tried to challenge those patterns and stereotypes in her work
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Ona je pokušala da izazove te šablone i stereotipe
u svom radu i pokušala je da pokaže sve izazove
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and she tried to show the challenges that journalists face
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sa kojima se novinari suočavaju, od spoljnih izvora,
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from external sources, their own internal biases
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svoje unutrašnje pristrasnosti i kulturnih normi,
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and cultural norms.
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And she worked with an editor at National Public Radio
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i radila je sa urednikom na Nacionalnom javnom radiju
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to try to get a story aired nationally.
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da pokuša da priču emituje na nacionalnom nivou.
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She's not sure that would have happened if the editor had not been a female.
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Nije sigurna da li bi se to desilo
da urednik nije bila žena.
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Stories in the news
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Priče u vestima imaju duplo veće šanse
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are more than twice as likely to present women as victims than men,
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da predstave žene kao žrtve nego muškarce
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and women are more likely to be defined by their body parts.
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i žene će najverovatnije biti definisane
svojim delovima tela.
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Wired magazine, November 2010.
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Magazin Vajerd, novembar 2010.
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Yes, the issue was about breast-tissue engineering.
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Da, izdanje je bilo o inženjeringu tkiva dojki.
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Now I know you're all distracted, so I'll take that off.
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Znam da ste svi rastrojeni, pa ću skinuti to. (Smeh)
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(Laughter)
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Eyes up here.
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Pogled gore. (Smeh)
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(Laughter)
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So --
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Dakle - (Aplauz)
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(Applause)
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U ovome je stvar.
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Here's the thing:
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Wired almost never puts women on its cover.
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Vajerd skoro nikada ne stavlja žene na svoju naslovnicu.
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Oh, there have been some gimmicky ones --
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Ah, bilo je nekih smicalica.
Pem iz The Office.
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Pam from "The Office,"
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Manga devojke.
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manga girls,
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a voluptuous model covered in synthetic diamonds.
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Pohotljivi modeli prekriveni sintetičkim dijamantima.
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Texas State University professor Cindy Royal wondered in her blog
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Sindi Rojal, profesorka Teksaškog državnog univerzieta, upitala je
na svom blogu: ''Kako bi mlade žene kao što su njene studentkinje
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how are young women like her students supposed to feel about their roles
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trebalo da razmišljaju o svojim ulogama u tehnologiji tokom čitanja Vajerda?''
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in technology, reading Wired.
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Chris Anderson, the editor of Wired, defended his choice
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Kris Anderson, urednik Vajerda, branio je svoj izbor
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and said there aren't enough women, prominent women
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i rekao, nema dovoljno žena, istaknutih žena
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in technology to sell a cover, to sell an issue.
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u tehnologiji da prodaju naslovnicu, da prodaju izdanje.
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Part of that is true,
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Deo ovoga je tačan.
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there aren't as many prominent women in technology.
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Ne postoji mnogo istaknutih žena u tehnologiji.
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Here's my problem with that argument:
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Evo mog problema sa tim argumentom.
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Media tells us every day what's important,
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Mediji nam svaki dan kazuju šta je važno,
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by the stories they choose and where they place them;
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pričama koje izaberu i time gde ih smeste.
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it's called agenda setting.
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To se zove postavka dnevnog reda.
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How many people knew the founders of Facebook and Google
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Koliko je ljudi znalo osnivače Fejsbuka
i Gugla pre nego što su njihova lica bila na naslovnicama magazina?
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before their faces were on a magazine cover?
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Putting them there made them more recognizable.
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Stavljajući ih tamo učinili su ih prepoznatljivijima.
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Now, Fast Company Magazine embraces that idea.
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Časopis Fast Company sada prihvata tu ideju.
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This is its cover from November 15, 2010.
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Ovo je njihova naslovnica od 15. novembra 2010.
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The issue is about the most prominent and influential women in technology.
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Izdanje je o najistaknutijim i najuticajnijim ženama
u tehnologiji.
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Editor Robert Safian told the Poynter Institute,
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Urednik Robert Safian je rekao institutu Pojnter:
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"Silicon Valley is very white and very male.
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''Silicijumska dolina je veoma bele puti i veoma muški orijentisana,
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But that's not what Fast Company thinks
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ali Fast company ne misli da će poslovni svet
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the business world will look like in the future,
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tako izgledati u budućnosti, pa pokušava da da sliku
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so it tries to give a picture of where the globalized world is moving."
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gde se globalizovani svet kreće.''
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By the way, apparently, Wired took all this to heart.
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Uostalom, Vajerd je očigledno primio sve ovo k srcu.
Ovo je bilo aprilsko izdanje. (Smeh)
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This was its issue in April.
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06:30
(Laughter)
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That's Limor Fried, the founder of Adafruit Industries,
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To je Limor Frajd, osnivač Adafruit Industries,
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in the Rosie the Riveter pose.
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u pozi zakivačice Rouzi.
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It would help to have more women in positions of leadership in media.
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Pomoglo bi da ima više žena na liderskim pozicijama
u medijima. Nedavno globalno istraživanje otkrilo je
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A recent global survey
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found that 73 percent of the top media-management jobs
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da 73% najboljih menadžment poslova u medijima
još uvek drže muškarci.
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are still held by men.
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But this is also about something far more complex:
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Ali ovde je bitno nešto mnogo složenije:
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our own unconscious biases and blind spots.
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naše sopstvene nesvesne predrasude i mrtvi uglovi.
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Shankar Vedantam is the author
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Šankar Vedantam je autor knjige ''Skriveni mozak:
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of "The Hidden Brain: How Our Unconscious Minds Elect Presidents,
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Kako naša podsvest bira predsednike,
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Control Markets, Wage Wars, and Save Our Lives."
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kontroliše tržište, vodi ratove i čuva naše živote.''
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He told the former ombudsman at National Public Radio,
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On je rekao bivšem ombudsmanu
na Nacionalnom javnom radiju, koji je radio
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who was doing a report on how women fare in NPR coverage,
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izveštaj o tome kako žene prolaze u NPR reportažama,
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unconscious bias flows throughout most of our lives.
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nesvesne pristrasnosti protiču tokom naših života.
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It's really difficult to disentangle those strands.
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Veoma je teško razmrsiti te konce.
Ali on je imao jedan predlog.
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But he did have one suggestion.
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He used to work for two editors
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On je radio za dva urednika koji tvrde
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who said every story had to have at least one female source.
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da svaka priča mora imati najmanje jedan ženski izvor.
On je odbijao, na početku, ali je konačno
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He balked at first,
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but said he eventually followed the directive happily,
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zadovoljno sledio uputstva jer su njegove priče postale bolje
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because his stories got better
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i njegov posao je bio lakši.
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and his job got easier.
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Now, I don't know if one of the editors was a woman,
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Ne znam da li je ijedan urednik bila žena,
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but that can make the biggest difference.
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ali to može napraviti najveću razliku.
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The Dallas Morning News won a Pulitzer Prize in 1994
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The Dallas Morning News je dobio Pulicerovu nagradu 1994.
za serijal koji su radili o ženama širom sveta,
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for a series it did on women around the world,
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but one of the reporters told me
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ali jedna od reporterki mi je rekla da je ubeđena
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she's convinced it never would have happened
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da se to nikad ne bi desilo da nisu imali
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if they had not had a female assistant foreign editor,
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ženskog asistenta stranog urednika
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and they would not have gotten some of those stories
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i da ne bi dobili neke od tih priča
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without female reporters and editors on the ground,
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bez ženskih reportera i urednika na terenu,
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particularly one on female genital mutilation --
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a posebno onu o sakaćenju ženskih genitalija.
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men would just not be allowed into those situations.
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Muškarcima prosto ne može biti dozvoljen pristup tim situacijama.
08:02
This is an important point to consider,
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Ovo je veoma važno uzeti u obzir,
08:04
because much of our foreign policy now revolves around countries
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jer se mnogo naše spoljne politike sada vrti
oko država gde je postupanje sa ženama problem,
08:07
where the treatment of women is an issue,
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kao što je Avganistan.
08:10
such as Afghanistan.
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08:13
What we're told in terms of arguments against leaving this country
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Ono što nam je rečeno po pitanju argumenata protiv napuštanja
ove zemlje je to što je sudbina žena prioritet.
08:17
is that the fate of the women is primary.
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08:21
Now, I'm sure a male reporter in Kabul can find women to interview.
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Sigurna sam da muški novinar u Kabulu može pronaći ženu za intervju.
08:25
Not so sure about rural, traditional areas,
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Nisam baš sigurna za ruralne, tradicionalne sredine,
gde pretpostavljam da žene ne mogu razgovarati sa nepoznatim muškarcima.
08:29
where I'm guessing women can't talk to strange men.
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08:32
It's important to keep talking about this, in light of Lara Logan.
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Važno je nastaviti priču o ovome
imajući u vidu Laru Logan.
08:36
She was the CBS News correspondent
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Ona je bila CBS-ova dopisnica koja je bila
08:39
who was brutally sexually assaulted in Egypt's Tahrir Square,
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brutalno seksualno napadnuta u egipatskom Tahrir skveru
08:41
right after this photo was taken.
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odmah nakon pravljenja ove fotografije.
Skoro odmah, stručnjaci
08:44
Almost immediately, pundits weighed in,
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08:46
blaming her and saying things like,
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su je okrivili i pričali stvari poput: ''Znate,
možda žene ne bi trebalo slati da pokrivaju te priče.''
08:50
"You know, maybe women shouldn't be sent to cover those stories."
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08:53
I never heard anyone say this about Anderson Cooper and his crew,
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Nisam nikad čula ikoga da kaže ovo o Andersonu Kuperu
08:56
who were attacked covering the same story.
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i njegovom timu koji su bili napadnuti pokrivajući istu priču.
09:00
One way to get more women into leadership
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Jedan način za dobijanje više žena u rukovodstvu
09:02
is to have other women mentor them.
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je taj da im ostale žene budu mentori.
09:04
One of my board members is an editor at a major global media company,
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Jedna od mojih članica odbora je urednica u velikoj
globalnoj medijskoj kompaniji, ali ona nikad nije pomislila o ovome
09:08
but she never thought about this as a career path,
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09:10
until she met female role models at JAWS.
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kao o karijeri dok se nije upoznala sa ženskim uzorima u JAWS-u.
09:14
But this is not just a job for super-journalists
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Ali ovo nije samo posao za super-novinare
09:16
or my organization.
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ili moju organizaciju. Svi vi imate udela u jakim,
09:18
You all have a stake in a strong, vibrant media.
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živim medijima.
09:21
Analyze your news.
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Analizirajte svoje vesti i govorite kad postoje praznine
09:23
And speak up when there are gaps missing in coverage,
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koje nedostaju u pričama kao u Njujork tajmsu.
09:26
like people at The New York Times did.
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09:28
Suggest female sources to reporters and editors.
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Predložite ženske izvore novinarima i urednicima.
09:31
Remember -- a complete picture of reality may depend upon it.
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Zapamtite, celokupna slika stvarnosti
može zavisiti od toga.
09:35
And I'll leave you with a video clip
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I napustiću vas video klipom koji sam prvi put videla 1987.
09:37
that I first saw in [1987] when I was a student in London.
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kada sam bila studentkinja u Londonu.
To je za novine Gardijan.
09:41
It's for The Guardian newspaper.
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09:42
It's actually long before I ever thought about becoming a journalist,
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To je zapravo bilo mnogo pre nego što sam čak i pomislila
da postanem novinar, ali sam bila veoma zainteresovana
09:46
but I was very interested in how we learn to perceive our world.
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u to kako učimo da sagledavamo svet.
09:50
Narrator: An event seen from one point of view gives one impression.
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Narator: Događaj gledan sa jedne tačke gledišta
daje jedan utisak.
10:00
Seen from another point of view,
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Gledano sa druge tačke gledišta,
10:02
it gives quite a different impression.
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daje sasvim drugačiji utisak.
10:06
But it's only when you get the whole picture,
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Ali jedino kada uzmete u obzir celu sliku
10:09
you can fully understand what's going on.
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možete potpuno razumeti šta se dešava.
10:15
[The Guardian]
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''Gardijan.''
10:17
Megan Kamerick: I think you'll all agree
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Megan Kamerik: Mislim da ste svi saglasni
10:19
that we'd be better off if we all had the whole picture.
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da bi nam bilo bolje kada bismo svi imali potpunu sliku.
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