Megan Kamerick: Women should represent women in media

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Like most journalists, I'm an idealist.
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像大部分記者一樣,我是位理想主義者
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I love unearthing good stories, especially untold stories.
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我熱愛挖掘好的故事,特別是那些不被傳述的
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I just didn't think that in 2011,
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我從來沒想過,到 2011 年時
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women would still be in that category.
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女性的故事依然會被看做是不用傳述的
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I'm the President of the Journalism and Women Symposium -- JAWS.
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我是女性與新聞座談會的主席
座談會簡稱鯊魚會(JAWS) (笑聲)
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That's Sharky.
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(Laughter)
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I joined 10 years ago because I wanted female role models,
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十年前我因為想找尋女性典範而加入此會議
而我卻因為女性在這專業領域中落後的狀態
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and I was frustrated by the lagging status of women in our profession
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和在媒體中所投射出的形象而感到失望
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and what that meant for our image in the media.
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和在媒體中所投射出的形象而感到失望
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We make up half the population of the world,
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我們占全球人口總數的一半
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but we're just 24 percent of the news subjects
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但在所有的新聞主題中
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quoted in news stories.
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我們只在其中的 24% 被提及
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And we're just 20 percent of the experts quoted in stories.
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也只有 20% 的女性專家會在新聞中被引述
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And now, with today's technology,
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現在,隨著當今的科技
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it's possible to remove women from the picture completely.
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是有辦法完全將女性從照片中去除的
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This is a picture of President Barack Obama and his advisors,
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這是總統歐巴馬的一張照片
他和他的顧問團正關注者獵殺奧薩瑪賓拉登的行動
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tracking the killing of Osama bin Laden.
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You can see Hillary Clinton on the right.
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你能看見希拉蕊柯林頓在右邊
我們來看看這張照片
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Let's see how the photo ran
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in an Orthodox Jewish newspaper based in Brooklyn.
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是如何被刊登在布魯克林的保守猶太報紙上
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Hillary's completely gone.
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希拉蕊完全消失了(笑聲)
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(Laughter)
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The paper apologized, but said it never runs photos of women;
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報社道歉了,卻說
它們從不刊登女性的照片
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they might be sexually provocative.
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因為這可能引起性挑逗(笑聲)
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(Laughter)
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This is an extreme case, yes.
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這是極端的例子沒錯,但是事實是
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But the fact is,
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當遇到政治相關的新聞時
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women are only 19 percent of the sources in stories on politics,
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女性只占新聞來源的 19%
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and only 20 percent in stories on the economy.
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和經濟新聞中的 20%
新聞持續地給我們一種
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The news continues to give us a picture
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"男性在各項工作的人數都超過女性"的印象
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where men outnumber women
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in nearly all occupational categories, except two:
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除了這兩個:學生、家庭主婦(笑聲)
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students and homemakers.
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(Laughter)
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So we all get a very distorted picture of reality.
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所以我們看到的是非常扭曲現實的景象
問題在於,當然
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The problem is, of course, there aren't enough women in newsrooms.
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新聞媒體產業裡的女性不夠多
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They report at just 37 percent of stories in print, TV and radio.
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她們只在報章電視中報導 37% 的新聞
她們只在報章電視中報導 37% 的新聞
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Even in stories on gender-based violence,
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就算在那些性別暴力中的報導
男性記者在版面和播報時間上
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men get an overwhelming majority of print space and airtime.
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得到了壓倒性的多數
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Case in point:
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例如
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This March, the New York Times ran a story by James McKinley
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今年三月《紐約時報》刊登了一則 由 James McKlinley 報導的故事
有關一個在德州小鎮的幫派
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about a gang rape of a young girl,
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11 years old, in a small Texas town.
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強暴了一位十一歲大的女孩
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McKinley writes that the community is wondering,
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McKinley 寫出那個社區的困惑
「他們的男孩怎麼會被扯進這種事?」
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"How could their boys have been drawn into this?"
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"被扯進"
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"Drawn into this" --
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like they were seduced into committing an act of violence.
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好像他們是被引誘以致犯下暴力罪行
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And the first person he quotes says,
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然後他引述的第一位受訪者說
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"These boys will have to live with this the rest of their lives."
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「這些男孩將一輩子得和這樣的陰影生存」
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(Groans, laughter)
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(觀眾反應)
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You don't hear much about the 11-year-old victim,
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你看不到太多有關十一歲受害者的報導
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except that she wore clothes that were a little old for her
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除了她穿得有點超齡
和她當時有化妝
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and she wore makeup.
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The Times was deluged with criticism.
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《時報》後來被批評淹沒
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Initially, it defended itself,
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一開始《時報》為自己辯護,說「這不是我們的看法
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and said, "These aren't our views.
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這是我們在報導中找到的」
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This is what we found in our reporting."
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Now, here's a secret you probably know already:
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這或許是個你已經知道的祕密
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Your stories are constructed.
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你看到的故事都是被架構好的
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As reporters, we research, we interview.
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當一個記者,我們做研究、我們採訪
我們試圖拼湊出事實的完整真相
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We try to give a good picture of reality.
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We also have our own unconscious biases.
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我們一樣會有自己不自覺的偏見
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But The Times makes it sound like anyone would have reported this story
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但是《時報》讓這些聽起來
好似任何人來採訪都會得到相同的結果
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the same way.
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I disagree with that.
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我並不苟同
所以三週後,《時報》重新訪查這個故事
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So three weeks later,
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The Times revisits the story.
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This time, it adds another byline to it with McKinley's:
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這次除了 McKinley 外,署名的記者加了一個人
Erica Goode
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Erica Goode.
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What emerges is a truly sad, horrific tale
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所浮現的是個實在悲慘、可怕的故事
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of a young girl and her family trapped in poverty.
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小女孩和他的家人被貧窮所困
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She was raped numerous times by many men.
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她多次被不同男人強暴
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She had been a bright, easygoing girl.
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她以前一直是個開朗、隨和的女孩
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She was maturing quickly, physically,
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她生理上發育較早
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but her bed was still covered with stuffed animals.
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但她的床上仍佈滿許多動物玩偶
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It's a very different picture.
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這是全然不同的圖像
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Perhaps the addition of Ms. Goode is what made this story more complete.
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或許是因為 Goode 小姐的加入
才讓整個故事得以完整
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The Global Media Monitoring Project has found that stories by female reporters
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全球媒體監督計畫發現
女性撰寫的報導
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are more likely to challenge stereotypes than those by male reporters.
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比男性寫的更可能挑戰刻板印象
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At KUNM here in Albuquerque,
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在阿布奎基的 KUNM 電台
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Elaine Baumgartel did some graduate research
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Elaine Baumgartel 針對「女性與暴力」的報導 做了一些碩論研究
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on the coverage of violence against women.
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Elaine Baumgartel 針對「女性與暴力」的報導 做了一些碩論研究
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What she found was many of these stories tend to blame victims
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她發現許多這種故事報導
都傾向去責怪受害者或去貶低她們的人生
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and devalue their lives.
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They tend to sensationalize, and they lack context.
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它們刻意使之聳動,也缺乏前因後果
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So for her graduate work,
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她在碩士論文中用三階段研究一位連續殺人魔
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she did a three-part series on the murder of 11 women,
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她在碩士論文中用三階段研究一位連續殺人魔
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found buried on Albuquerque's West Mesa.
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殺了十一位女性並將她們埋在阿布奎基的西區
她試圖在研究中挑戰那些模式和刻板印象
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She tried to challenge those patterns and stereotypes in her work
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並試圖展現記者面臨到的挑戰 不論是外在的消息來源
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and she tried to show the challenges that journalists face
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並試圖展現記者面臨到的挑戰 不論是外在的消息來源
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from external sources, their own internal biases
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或是自身內心的偏見,還有社會文化上的規範
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and cultural norms.
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And she worked with an editor at National Public Radio
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她和國家公共廣播電台的一個編輯合作
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to try to get a story aired nationally.
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好讓故事在全國播送
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She's not sure that would have happened if the editor had not been a female.
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她不確定假使編輯不是女性
整件事有沒有可能發生
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Stories in the news
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相較於男性,新聞中把女性描繪為受害者是男性的兩倍
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are more than twice as likely to present women as victims than men,
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相較於男性,新聞中把女性描繪為受害者是男性的兩倍
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and women are more likely to be defined by their body parts.
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而女性也更可能
因為身體部位而被物化
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Wired magazine, November 2010.
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2010年十一月號的《Wired雜誌》
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Yes, the issue was about breast-tissue engineering.
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該期雜誌是有關胸部拭紙巾的工業
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Now I know you're all distracted, so I'll take that off.
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好我知道你們都分心了,所以我要換張圖(笑聲)
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(Laughter)
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Eyes up here.
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眼睛看過來(笑聲)
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(Laughter)
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So --
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所以(掌聲)
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(Applause)
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我要說的是
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Here's the thing:
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Wired almost never puts women on its cover.
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《Wired雜誌》幾乎不曾把女性放上封面
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Oh, there have been some gimmicky ones --
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噢,有過一些比較戲謔的
美國影集《辦公室瘋雲》的 Pam
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Pam from "The Office,"
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漫畫女孩
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manga girls,
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a voluptuous model covered in synthetic diamonds.
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身上貼滿合成鑽石的妖豔模特兒
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Texas State University professor Cindy Royal wondered in her blog
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德州州立大學教授 Cindy Royal 在網誌上提出質疑
那些年輕的女性,像是她的學生
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how are young women like her students supposed to feel about their roles
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在看《Wired雜誌》時 要怎麼看待自己在科技界所扮演的角色?
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in technology, reading Wired.
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Chris Anderson, the editor of Wired, defended his choice
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《Wired雜誌》的編輯 Chris Anderson 為自己的選擇辯護
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and said there aren't enough women, prominent women
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他說:「在科技界中沒有那麼多頂尖女性
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in technology to sell a cover, to sell an issue.
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能夠擔綱封面,或讓該期雜誌熱銷」
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Part of that is true,
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這有一部份是真的
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there aren't as many prominent women in technology.
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科技界中真的沒有那麼多突出的女性
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Here's my problem with that argument:
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但我認為這說法有問題
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Media tells us every day what's important,
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媒體每天靠著他們選擇的故事,和刊登的位置 來告訴我們甚麼是重要的
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by the stories they choose and where they place them;
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媒體每天靠著他們選擇的故事,和刊登的位置 來告訴我們甚麼是重要的
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it's called agenda setting.
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這叫做「設定議題」
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How many people knew the founders of Facebook and Google
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多少人在臉書和 Google 創辦人
上雜誌封面前就認識他們
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before their faces were on a magazine cover?
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Putting them there made them more recognizable.
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把他們放在那讓他們更具有知名度
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Now, Fast Company Magazine embraces that idea.
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如今,《Fast Company 雜誌》擁抱這個概念
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This is its cover from November 15, 2010.
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這是2010年11月15日這期的封面
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The issue is about the most prominent and influential women in technology.
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這期雜誌是有關科技界中
最有影響力的傑出女性
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Editor Robert Safian told the Poynter Institute,
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編輯 Robert Safian 跟 Poynter 機構說
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"Silicon Valley is very white and very male.
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「矽谷是白人和男人的世界
但是《Fast Company 雜誌》並不認為
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But that's not what Fast Company thinks
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the business world will look like in the future,
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這會是矽谷未來的樣貌
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so it tries to give a picture of where the globalized world is moving."
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所以他們試圖描繪未來全球化下的趨勢」
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By the way, apparently, Wired took all this to heart.
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對了,顯然《Wired 雜誌》也虛心受教
這是他們四月的雜誌(笑聲)
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This was its issue in April.
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(Laughter)
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That's Limor Fried, the founder of Adafruit Industries,
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這是 Adafruit 工業的創辦者 Limor Fried
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in the Rosie the Riveter pose.
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擺著經典的女子鉚釘工人姿勢
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It would help to have more women in positions of leadership in media.
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若有更多女性在媒體的領導職位也會有所幫助
一項近期的全球調查發現
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A recent global survey
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found that 73 percent of the top media-management jobs
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在頂尖媒體行業中仍然有 73% 的管理職位
是被男性占據
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are still held by men.
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But this is also about something far more complex:
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但這也是有關一個更複雜的現象:
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our own unconscious biases and blind spots.
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我們不自覺的偏見和盲點
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Shankar Vedantam is the author
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Shankar Vedantam 寫了《隱藏的大腦-
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of "The Hidden Brain: How Our Unconscious Minds Elect Presidents,
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我們的下意識如何選出總統、
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Control Markets, Wage Wars, and Save Our Lives."
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控制市場、挑起戰爭和救自己一命》一書
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He told the former ombudsman at National Public Radio,
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他告訴一位前調查員
之前負責在國家公共廣播公司
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who was doing a report on how women fare in NPR coverage,
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調查女性在廣播中被報導的方式
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unconscious bias flows throughout most of our lives.
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看不自覺的偏見如何充斥著我們的人生
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It's really difficult to disentangle those strands.
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要解開那些思結是非常難的
但他還是有一個建議
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But he did have one suggestion.
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He used to work for two editors
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他曾為兩個編輯工作
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who said every story had to have at least one female source.
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編輯們說「每個故事都該有個女性的觀點」
他起初質疑,但最後欣然接受 因為他的報導變得更好
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He balked at first,
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but said he eventually followed the directive happily,
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他起初質疑,但最後欣然接受 因為他的報導變得更好
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because his stories got better
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而他的工作也變得更輕鬆
07:30
and his job got easier.
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07:32
Now, I don't know if one of the editors was a woman,
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我並不知道是否兩位編輯中有一位是女性
07:34
but that can make the biggest difference.
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但是這也算很大的改變
07:37
The Dallas Morning News won a Pulitzer Prize in 1994
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《達拉斯早晨新聞》在1994 年贏得普立茲獎
是由於一系列針對全球女性所做的報導
07:41
for a series it did on women around the world,
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07:43
but one of the reporters told me
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但其中一位記者告訴我
07:45
she's convinced it never would have happened
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她深信如果不是因為一位外籍女性編輯助理 這一切報導不會發生
07:47
if they had not had a female assistant foreign editor,
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她深信如果不是因為一位外籍女性編輯助理 這一切報導不會發生
07:51
and they would not have gotten some of those stories
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如果不是因為一些當地的女性記者和編輯 他們也不會採訪到那些故事
07:53
without female reporters and editors on the ground,
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如果不是因為一些當地的女性記者和編輯 他們也不會採訪到那些故事
07:56
particularly one on female genital mutilation --
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特別是一篇有關女性生殖器切除的報導
07:59
men would just not be allowed into those situations.
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男性根本不被允許進入那些場合
08:02
This is an important point to consider,
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這是該深思的重點
08:04
because much of our foreign policy now revolves around countries
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因為我們當下許多的國外政策
與許多女性是件議題的國家相關
08:07
where the treatment of women is an issue,
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例如阿富汗
08:10
such as Afghanistan.
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08:13
What we're told in terms of arguments against leaving this country
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有人說反對離開阿富汗的一個原因
主要是為了當地女性的命運
08:17
is that the fate of the women is primary.
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08:21
Now, I'm sure a male reporter in Kabul can find women to interview.
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我確信男性記者能在喀布爾找到女性受訪者
但較鄉下和傳統的地區則非如此
08:25
Not so sure about rural, traditional areas,
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我猜那裡的女性不會跟陌生男子講話
08:29
where I'm guessing women can't talk to strange men.
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08:32
It's important to keep talking about this, in light of Lara Logan.
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有鑑於 Lara Logan,持續討論這件事是很重要的
有鑑於 Lara Logan,持續討論這件事是很重要的
08:36
She was the CBS News correspondent
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她是 CBS 新聞台的外派記者
08:39
who was brutally sexually assaulted in Egypt's Tahrir Square,
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她在被拍完這張照片後沒多久
08:41
right after this photo was taken.
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在埃及的 Tahrir 廣場被粗暴地性侵害
幾乎立刻地,權威人士們群起
08:44
Almost immediately, pundits weighed in,
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08:46
blaming her and saying things like,
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責怪她並說些話像是
「或許女性不該被送去報導這些故事」
08:50
"You know, maybe women shouldn't be sent to cover those stories."
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08:53
I never heard anyone say this about Anderson Cooper and his crew,
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我沒聽過有人對 Anderson Cooper 發表類似評論
08:56
who were attacked covering the same story.
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他和工作人員在報導同樣故事時也被襲擊
09:00
One way to get more women into leadership
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讓更多女性得到領導地位的方法
09:02
is to have other women mentor them.
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是讓其它女性引導她們
09:04
One of my board members is an editor at a major global media company,
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我們其中一位成員是個全球大媒體公司的編輯 但她之前從未想過做這個工作
我們其中一位成員是個全球大媒體公司的編輯 但她之前從未想過做這個工作
09:08
but she never thought about this as a career path,
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直到她在 JAWS 遇到了另一位女性典範
09:10
until she met female role models at JAWS.
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09:14
But this is not just a job for super-journalists
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但這件事不是只屬於超級記者或我組織的工作
09:16
or my organization.
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你們都在強而有力的媒體中占一席
09:18
You all have a stake in a strong, vibrant media.
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你們都在強而有力的媒體中占一席
09:21
Analyze your news.
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分析你看的新聞 並在新聞出現如《紐時報導》的缺失時發聲
09:23
And speak up when there are gaps missing in coverage,
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分析你看的新聞 並在新聞出現如《紐時報導》的缺失時發聲
09:26
like people at The New York Times did.
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09:28
Suggest female sources to reporters and editors.
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向記者或編輯推薦女性消息來源
09:31
Remember -- a complete picture of reality may depend upon it.
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記住,一個完整事實的圖像
或許就仰賴在這件事上
09:35
And I'll leave you with a video clip
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最後我要放一段我在 1987 年 第一次看到的短片
09:37
that I first saw in [1987] when I was a student in London.
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當時我在倫敦求學
這是《衛報》的廣告
09:41
It's for The Guardian newspaper.
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09:42
It's actually long before I ever thought about becoming a journalist,
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在我想當記者之前看的
但我當時熱衷於研究
09:46
but I was very interested in how we learn to perceive our world.
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我們如何感知我們的世界
09:50
Narrator: An event seen from one point of view gives one impression.
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旁白:從一個角度觀察到的事件
會留下一種印象
10:00
Seen from another point of view,
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從另一個角度觀察時
10:02
it gives quite a different impression.
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又會留下另一種頗不同的印象
10:06
But it's only when you get the whole picture,
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但只有當你看到完整的事件時
10:09
you can fully understand what's going on.
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你才會真的了解到事情的全貌
10:15
[The Guardian]
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《衛報》
10:17
Megan Kamerick: I think you'll all agree
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我想你們都會認同
越能掌握完整事實越是件好事吧
10:19
that we'd be better off if we all had the whole picture.
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