Tom Chatfield: 7 ways video games engage the brain

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Prevodilac: Ivana Korom Lektor: Sandra Gojic
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I love video games.
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Obožavam video igre.
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I'm also slightly in awe of them.
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Gajim i neko strahopoštovanje prema njima.
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I'm in awe of their power
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Prema njihovoj moći
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in terms of imagination, in terms of technology,
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u smislu mašte, tehnologije,
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in terms of concept.
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u smislu ideje.
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But I think, above all,
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Ali mislim da povrh svega
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I'm in awe at their power
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gajim strahopoštovanje prema njihovoj moći
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to motivate, to compel us,
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da nas motivišu, podstaknu,
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to transfix us,
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fiksiraju za sebe
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like really nothing else we've ever invented
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kao što ništa drugo što smo napravili
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has quite done before.
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nije uspevalo ranije.
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And I think that we can learn some pretty amazing things
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Mislim da možemo naučiti neke prilično neverovatne stvari
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by looking at how we do this.
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ako posmatramo kako one to čine.
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And in particular, I think we can learn things
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I posebno, mislim da možemo naučiti
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about learning.
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o učenju.
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Now the video games industry
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Industrija video igara
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is far and away the fastest growing
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se najbrže razvija
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of all modern media.
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od svih modernih medija.
00:57
From about 10 billion in 1990,
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Od oko 10 milijardi 1990.,
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it's worth 50 billion dollars globally today,
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danas na svetskom nivou vredi 50 milijardi dolara
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and it shows no sign of slowing down.
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i ne pokazuje znake usporavanja.
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In four years' time,
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Procenjuje se da će
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it's estimated it'll be worth over 80 billion dollars.
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za četiri godine vredeti preko 80 milijardi dolara.
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That's about three times the recorded music industry.
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To je tri puta više od muzičke industrije.
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This is pretty stunning,
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To je prilično zapanjujuće, ali
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but I don't think it's the most telling statistic of all.
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to nije podatak koji ostavlja najsnažniji utisak.
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The thing that really amazes me
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Ono što me zaista fascinira
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is that, today,
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je to da, danas,
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people spend about
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ljudi troše oko
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eight billion real dollars a year
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osam milijardi pravih dolara godišnje
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buying virtual items
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kupujući virtuelne predmete
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that only exist
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koji postoje samo
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inside video games.
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unutar video igara.
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This is a screenshot from the virtual game world, Entropia Universe.
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Ovo je snimak iz virtuelnog sveta "Entropia Universe".
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Earlier this year,
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Početkom ove godine,
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a virtual asteroid in it
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virtuelni asteroid je tu
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sold for 330,000 real dollars.
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prodat za 330 000 pravih dolara.
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And this
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Ovo je brod
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is a Titan class ship
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klase "Titan"
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in the space game, EVE Online.
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u svemirskoj igri "EVE Online".
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And this virtual object
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Za izgradnju ovog virtuelnog predmeta
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takes 200 real people
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potrebno je da 200 pravih ljudi
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about 56 days of real time to build,
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uloži 56 dana pravog vremena,
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plus countless thousands of hours
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plus mnogo hiljada sati
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of effort before that.
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napora pre toga.
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And yet, many of these get built.
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A opet, mnogi od ovih se grade.
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At the other end of the scale,
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S druge strane,
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the game Farmville that you may well have heard of,
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igru "Farmville", za koju ste sigurno čuli,
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has 70 million players
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igra 70 miliona ljudi
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around the world
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širom sveta,
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and most of these players
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a većina njih
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are playing it almost every day.
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igra je skoro svakog dana.
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This may all sound
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Sve ovo možda zvuči
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really quite alarming to some people,
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prilično alarmantno, nekim ljudima,
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an index of something worrying
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kao pokazatelj nečeg zabrinjavajućeg
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or wrong in society.
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ili pogrešnog u društvu.
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But we're here for the good news,
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Ali ovde smo zbog dobrih vesti,
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and the good news is
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a dobra vest je ta
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that I think we can explore
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da mislim da možemo da istražujemo
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why this very real human effort,
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zašto se javljaju ova
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this very intense generation of value, is occurring.
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stremljenja i ovakve vrednosti.
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And by answering that question,
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Mislim da možemo,
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I think we can take something
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odgovaranjem na to pitanje,
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extremely powerful away.
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otkloniti nešto veoma moćno.
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And I think the most interesting way
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Mislim da, najzanimljiviji način
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to think about how all this is going on
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da razmišljamo o tome kako se sve ovo dešava,
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is in terms of rewards.
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je razmišljanje o nagradama.
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And specifically, it's in terms
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A posebno, u smislu
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of the very intense emotional rewards
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veoma intenzivnih emocionalnih nagrada
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that playing games offers to people
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koje igranje igara donosi ljudima,
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both individually
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kako individualno
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and collectively.
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tako i kolektivno.
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Now if we look at what's going on in someone's head
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Ako pogledamo šta se dešava u nečijoj glavi
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when they are being engaged,
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dok se bavi igranjem,
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two quite different processes are occurring.
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vidimo da se javljaju dva procesa.
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On the one hand, there's the wanting processes.
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S jedne strane imamo procese želje.
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This is a bit like ambition and drive -- I'm going to do that. I'm going to work hard.
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Ovo liči na ambiciju i motivaciju - uradiću to. Uložiću napor.
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On the other hand, there's the liking processes,
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S druge strane, imamo procese sviđanja,
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fun and affection
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zabavu i dopadanje
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and delight
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i oduševljenje -
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and an enormous flying beast with an orc on the back.
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i ogromnu leteću zver sa orkom na leđima.
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It's a really great image. It's pretty cool.
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Zaista sjajna slika. Prilično je kul.
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It's from the game World of Warcraft with more than 10 million players globally,
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To je iz igre "World of Warcraft" koja ima više od 10 miliona igrača u svetu,
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one of whom is me, another of whom is my wife.
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među kojima smo i moja žena i ja.
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And this kind of a world,
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I ova vrsta sveta,
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this vast flying beast you can ride around,
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ova ogromna leteća zver koju jašete
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shows why games are so very good
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pokazuje zašto su igre podjednako dobre
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at doing both the wanting and the liking.
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u procesima želje i sviđanja.
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Because it's very powerful. It's pretty awesome.
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Jer su veoma moćne. Prilično fantastične.
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It gives you great powers.
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Imate ogromne moći.
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Your ambition is satisfied, but it's very beautiful.
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Ambicija vam je zadovoljena, ali je i veoma lepo.
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It's a very great pleasure to fly around.
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To letenje predstavlja ogromno zadovoljstvo.
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And so these combine to form
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Sve ovo formira
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a very intense emotional engagement.
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veoma intenzivnu emocionalnu uključenost.
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But this isn't the really interesting stuff.
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Ali ovo nije najinteresatnije od svega.
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The really interesting stuff about virtuality
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Ono što je stvarno interesantno u vezi virtuelnog
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is what you can measure with it.
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sveta je da njime možete da merite.
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Because what you can measure in virtuality
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Jer u virtuelnom svetu možete
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is everything.
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da merite sve.
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Every single thing that every single person
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Svaka pojedina stvar koju je svaka osoba
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who's ever played in a game has ever done can be measured.
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koja je nekad igrala neku igru uradila, može da se meri.
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The biggest games in the world today
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Najveće igre na svetu danas
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are measuring more than one billion points of data
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prate više od milijardu pojedinačnih podataka
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about their players, about what everybody does --
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o svojim igračima, o tome šta svi rade -
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far more detail than you'd ever get from any website.
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mnogo više od detalja koje biste dobili preko nekog sajta.
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And this allows something very special
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Ovo omogućava da se
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to happen in games.
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u igrama dešava nešto posebno.
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It's something called the reward schedule.
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To se zove raspored nagrada.
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And by this, I mean looking
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Pod ovim mislim na posmatranje
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at what millions upon millions of people have done
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onoga šta milioni i milioni ljudi rade
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and carefully calibrating the rate,
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i pažljivo odmeravanje rasporeda,
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the nature, the type, the intensity of rewards in games
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prirode, vrste, intenziteta nagrada u igrama,
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to keep them engaged
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kako bi se održavali u igri
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over staggering amounts of time and effort.
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i ulagali zapanjujuće količine napora i vremena.
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Now, to try and explain this
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Pokušaću da objasnim ovo
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in sort of real terms,
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u realnim terminima,
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I want to talk about a kind of task
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pa ću govoriti o vrsti zadatka
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that might fall to you in so many games.
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koji verovatno dobijate u mnogim igrama.
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Go and get a certain amount of a certain little game-y item.
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Idite i nabavite određenu količinu određenog igračkog predmeta.
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Let's say, for the sake of argument,
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Recimo, u svrhu ove priče,
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my mission is to get 15 pies
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da je moja misija da nabavim 15 pita,
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and I can get 15 pies
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i nabaviću ih
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by killing these cute, little monsters.
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ako ubijem ova slatka, mala čudovišta.
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Simple game quest.
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Jednostavna misija u igri.
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Now you can think about this, if you like,
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Ako želite, možete o ovome razmišljati
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as a problem about boxes.
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kao o problemu kutija.
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I've got to keep opening boxes.
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Moram da nastavim da otvaram te kutije.
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I don't know what's inside them until I open them.
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Ne znam šta je u njima dok ih ne otvorim.
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And I go around opening box after box until I've got 15 pies.
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Idem okolo i otvaram jednu po jednu, dok ne skupim 15 pita.
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Now, if you take a game like Warcraft,
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Sad, ako uzmete igru kao što je "Warcraft",
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you can think about it, if you like,
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možete je, ako želite, posmatrati
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as a great box-opening effort.
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kao naporni poduhvat otvaranja kutija.
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The game's just trying to get people to open about a million boxes,
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Igra navodi ljude da otvore oko milion kutija,
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getting better and better stuff in them.
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u kojima se nalaze sve bolje i bolje stvari.
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This sounds immensely boring
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Ovo zvuči izuzetno dosadno,
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but games are able
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ali igre imaju moć
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to make this process
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da ovaj proces učine
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incredibly compelling.
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neverovatno ubedljivim.
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And the way they do this
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A to čine
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is through a combination of probability and data.
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kombinacijom verovatnoće i podataka.
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Let's think about probability.
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Razmislimo o verovatnoći.
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If we want to engage someone
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Ako želimo da uključimo nekoga
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in the process of opening boxes to try and find pies,
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u taj proces otvaranja kutija i traženja pita,
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we want to make sure it's neither too easy,
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želimo da budemo sigurni da nije ni previše lako,
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nor too difficult, to find a pie.
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ni previše teško pronaći pitu.
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So what do you do? Well, you look at a million people --
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Šta tada radimo? Pa, pogledajte milion ljudi -
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no, 100 million people, 100 million box openers --
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ne, 100 miliona ljudi, 100 miliona koji otvaraju kutije -
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and you work out, if you make the pie rate
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i izračunajte, ako je verovatnoća pite
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about 25 percent --
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oko 25% -
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that's neither too frustrating, nor too easy.
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to nije ni previše frustrirajuće, ni previše lako;
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It keeps people engaged.
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drži ljude angažovanim -
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But of course, that's not all you do -- there's 15 pies.
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ali naravno, to nije sve - ima 15 pita.
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Now, I could make a game called Piecraft,
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Sad, mogao bih da nazovem igru "Piecraft" (pie - pita),
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where all you had to do was get a million pies
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gde samo tražite milion pita
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or a thousand pies.
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ili hiljadu pita.
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That would be very boring.
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To bi bilo veoma dosadno.
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Fifteen is a pretty optimal number.
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15 je prilično optimalan broj.
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You find that -- you know, between five and 20
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Vidite da je između pet i 20
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is about the right number for keeping people going.
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to prilično dobar broj da bi ljudi nastavljali.
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But we don't just have pies in the boxes.
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Ali u kutijama nisu samo pite.
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There's 100 percent up here.
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Ovde je sto procenata.
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And what we do is make sure that every time a box is opened,
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Mi osiguramo da se svaki put kad se kutija otvori,
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there's something in it, some little reward
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u njoj nalazi neka mala nagrada
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that keeps people progressing and engaged.
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zbog koje ljudi napreduju i nastavljaju.
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In most adventure games,
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U većini avanturističkih igara
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it's a little bit in-game currency, a little bit experience.
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to je neka valuta ili iskustvo unutar igre,
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But we don't just do that either.
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ali ne radimo samo to.
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We also say there's going to be loads of other items
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Takođe kažemo da će biti još gomila drugih predmeta
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of varying qualities and levels of excitement.
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različitog kvaliteta i nivoa uzbuđenja.
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There's going to be a 10 percent chance you get a pretty good item.
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Postoji 10% šanse da dobijete prilično dobar predmet.
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There's going to be a 0.1 percent chance
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Imate šansu od 0.1%
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you get an absolutely awesome item.
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da dobijete stvarno izuzetan predmet.
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And each of these rewards is carefully calibrated to the item.
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I svaka od ovih nagrada pažljivo je odmerena za neki predmet.
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And also, we say,
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Takođe, kažemo, "Pa, koliko
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"Well, how many monsters? Should I have the entire world full of a billion monsters?"
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čudovišta? Da li bi trebalo da ceo svet bude pun milijardama čudovišta?"
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No, we want one or two monsters on the screen at any one time.
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Ne, želimo jedno ili dva čudovišta na ekranu u bilo kom trenutku.
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So I'm drawn on. It's not too easy, not too difficult.
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To me privlači. Nije previše lako, nije previše teško.
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So all this is very powerful.
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Sve ovo je veoma moćno.
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But we're in virtuality. These aren't real boxes.
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Ali mi smo u virtuelnom svetu; nisu to prave kutije.
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So we can do
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Tako da možemo da
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some rather amazing things.
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činimo neke prilično neverovatne stvari.
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We notice, looking at all these people opening boxes,
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Gledajući sve te ljude kako otvaraju kutije, primećujemo
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that when people get to about 13 out of 15 pies,
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da kad ljudi stignu do nekih 13 od 15 pita,
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their perception shifts, they start to get a bit bored, a bit testy.
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njihova percepcija se menja i postaje im pomalo dosadno.
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They're not rational about probability.
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Ne odnose se racionlano prema verovatnoći.
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They think this game is unfair.
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Misle da igra nije fer.
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It's not giving me my last two pies. I'm going to give up.
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Ne daje mi moje poslednje dve pite. Odustajem.
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If they're real boxes, there's not much we can do,
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Da su to prave kutije, ne bismo mogli mnogo da uradimo,
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but in a game we can just say, "Right, well.
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ali u igri možemo reći, "Dobro, u redu".
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When you get to 13 pies, you've got 75 percent chance of getting a pie now."
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Kada stignete do 13 pita, imate 75% šanse da sada dobijete pitu.
07:48
Keep you engaged. Look at what people do --
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I dalje ste uključeni. Pogledajte šta ljudi rade -
07:50
adjust the world to match their expectation.
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prilagode svet da se poklapa sa njihovim očekivanjem.
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Our games don't always do this.
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Naše igre ne rade ovo uvek.
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And one thing they certainly do at the moment
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A jedna stvar koju sigurno sada rade
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is if you got a 0.1 percent awesome item,
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je da, ako ste dobili super predmet sa 0.1% šanse,
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they make very sure another one doesn't appear for a certain length of time
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one će osigurati da se još neki takav predmet neće pojaviti poduže vreme
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to keep the value, to keep it special.
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kako bi se zadržala vrednost i posebnost.
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And the point is really
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that we evolved to be satisfied by the world
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da smo se razvili da imamo
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in particular ways.
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razna zadovoljstva iz sveta.
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Over tens and hundreds of thousands of years,
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we evolved to find certain things stimulating,
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smo se razvijali da neke stvari doživimo kao stimulativne,
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and as very intelligent, civilized beings,
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i kao veoma inteligentna i civilizovana bića,
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we're enormously stimulated by problem solving and learning.
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u velikoj meri nas stimuliše učenje i rešavanje problema.
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But now, we can reverse engineer that
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Ali sada, možemo da obrnemo proces
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and build worlds
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i da gradimo svetove
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that expressly tick our evolutionary boxes.
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koji direktno utiču na te naše osobine.
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So what does all this mean in practice?
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Šta sve ovo znači u praksi?
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Well, I've come up
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Pa, ja sam došao
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with seven things
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do sedam stvari
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that, I think, show
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za koje mislim da pokazuju
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how you can take these lessons from games
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kako možete ove lekcije iz igara
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and use them outside of games.
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preneti na svet van igara.
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The first one is very simple:
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Prva je veoma jednostavna:
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experience bars measuring progress --
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indikator iskustva koji meri napredak -
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something that's been talked about brilliantly
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nešto o čemu su ljudi poput
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by people like Jesse Schell earlier this year.
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Džesija Šela odlično pričali početkom godine.
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It's already been done at the University of Indiana in the States, among other places.
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Već se primenjuje na Univerzitetu u Indijani, u Americi, i nekim drugim mestima.
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It's the simple idea that instead of grading people incrementally
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Ideja je da, umesto da postepeno ocenjujete ljude
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in little bits and pieces,
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u delovima,
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you give them one profile character avatar
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date im profil jednog lika
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which is constantly progressing
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koji konstantno napreduje putem
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in tiny, tiny, tiny little increments which they feel are their own.
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sitnih, sitnih stepena koji ljudi doživljavaju kao svoje.
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And everything comes towards that,
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I sve ide u tom pravcu
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and they watch it creeping up, and they own that as it goes along.
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i oni gledaju kako se pomera i poseduju ga.
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Second, multiple long and short-term aims --
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Drugo, mnogi dugoročni i kratkoročni ciljevi -
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5,000 pies, boring,
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5000 pita, dosadno,
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15 pies, interesting.
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15 pita, zanimljivo.
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So, you give people
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Dajete ljudima
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lots and lots of different tasks.
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mnogo različitih zadataka.
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You say, it's about
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Zadatak je
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doing 10 of these questions,
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da se uradi 10 ovih pitanja,
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but another task
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ali sledeći zadatak
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is turning up to 20 classes on time,
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je da se pojavite na 20 časova,
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but another task is collaborating with other people,
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sledeći je da radite zajedno sa drugim ljudima,
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another task is showing you're working five times,
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naredni je da prikažete svoj rad pet puta,
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another task is hitting this particular target.
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naredni je da stignete do određenog cilja.
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You break things down into these calibrated slices
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Razložite stvari na odmerene delove
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that people can choose and do in parallel
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koje ljudi mogu da biraju i rade paralelno
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to keep them engaged
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da bi i dalje bili angažovani
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and that you can use to point them
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a koje vi koristite da ih navedete
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towards individually beneficial activities.
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ka aktivnostima koje su im individualno korisne.
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Third, you reward effort.
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Treće, nagradite napor.
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It's your 100 percent factor. Games are brilliant at this.
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To je vaš faktor od 100%. Igre su fantastiče u ovome.
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Every time you do something, you get credit; you get a credit for trying.
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Svaki put kad nešto radite, dobijete nagradu za pokušaj.
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You don't punish failure. You reward every little bit of effort --
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Ne kažnjava se neuspeh; nagrađuje se i najmanji napor -
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a little bit of gold, a little bit of credit. You've done 20 questions -- tick.
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pomalo zlata, pomalo nagrada - uradili ste 20 pitanja - tik.
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It all feeds in as minute reinforcement.
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Sve funkcioniše kao instant ojačanje.
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Fourth, feedback.
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Četvrto, povratna informacija.
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This is absolutely crucial,
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Ovo je izuzetno bitno,
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and virtuality is dazzling at delivering this.
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a virtuelni svet je očaravajuće dobar u tome.
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If you look at some of the most intractable problems in the world today
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Ako pogledamo neke od najtežih problema u svetu danas,
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that we've been hearing amazing things about,
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o kojima slušamo neverovatne stvari,
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it's very, very hard for people to learn
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ljudima je veoma teško da nauče
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if they cannot link consequences to actions.
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ukoliko ne mogu da povežu posledice sa delima.
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Pollution, global warming, these things --
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Zagađenje, globalno zagrevanje, posledice
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the consequences are distant in time and space.
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svih tih stvari su daleke u vremenu i prostoru.
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It's very hard to learn, to feel a lesson.
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Veoma je teško naučiti da osetimo lekciju,
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But if you can model things for people,
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ali ako uobličimo stvari,
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if you can give things to people that they can manipulate
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ako ljudima damo stvari koje su opipljive
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and play with and where the feedback comes,
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i kojima mogu da se igraju i od kojih imaju povratnu informaciju,
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then they can learn a lesson, they can see,
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onda mogu da nauče lekciju, da vide,
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they can move on, they can understand.
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da napreduju, razumeju.
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And fifth,
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I peto,
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the element of uncertainty.
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element nesigurnosti.
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Now this is the neurological goldmine,
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Ovo je neurološki rudnik zlata,
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if you like,
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ako hoćete,
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because a known reward
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jer poznata nagrada
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excites people,
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uzbuđuje ljude,
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but what really gets them going
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ali ono što ih stvarno podstiče
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is the uncertain reward,
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je nesigurna nagrada,
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the reward pitched at the right level of uncertainty,
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ona koja se javlja na određenom stepenu nesigurnosti,
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that they didn't quite know whether they were going to get it or not.
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za koju ne znaju da li će je dobiti.
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The 25 percent. This lights the brain up.
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Tih 25%. To stimuliše mozak.
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And if you think about
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I ako razmišljate o
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using this in testing,
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korišćenju ovoga u testovima,
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in just introducing control elements of randomness
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o tome da uvedete kontrolisane elemente nasumičnosti
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in all forms of testing and training,
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u sve vrste testiranja i treninga,
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you can transform the levels of people's engagement
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možete kod ljudi promeniti nivoe angažovanosti
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by tapping into this very powerful
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tako što ćete se umešati u ovaj
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evolutionary mechanism.
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moćni evolutivni mehanizam.
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When we don't quite predict something perfectly,
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Taj da se veoma uzbudimo oko
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we get really excited about it.
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nečeg što ne možemo savršeno da predvidimo.
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We just want to go back and find out more.
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Samo želimo da se vratimo i saznamo više.
11:24
As you probably know, the neurotransmitter
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Kao što verovatno znate, neurotransmiter
11:26
associated with learning is called dopamine.
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koji je u vezi sa učenjem zove se dopamin.
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It's associated with reward-seeking behavior.
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Povezan je sa ponašanjem traženja nagrade.
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And something very exciting is just beginning to happen
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Nešto veoma uzbudljivo počinje da se dešava
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in places like the University of Bristol in the U.K.,
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na primer na Univerzitetu u Bristolu, u Velikoj Britaniji,
11:37
where we are beginning to be able to model mathematically
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gde počinjemo da matematički oblikujemo
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dopamine levels in the brain.
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nivoe dopamina u mozgu.
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And what this means is we can predict learning,
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To znači da možemo da predvidimo učenje,
11:44
we can predict enhanced engagement,
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da predvidimo povećano angažovanje,
11:47
these windows, these windows of time,
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te vremenske periode kada
11:49
in which the learning is taking place at an enhanced level.
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se učenje dešava na povišenom nivou.
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And two things really flow from this.
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Iz ovoga proizlaze dve stvari.
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The first has to do with memory,
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Prva ima veze sa pamćenjem,
11:56
that we can find these moments.
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da možemo pronaći ove trenutke.
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When someone is more likely to remember,
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Kada neko ima više šanse da se seti,
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we can give them a nugget in a window.
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dajemo mu nagradu u nekim trenucima.
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And the second thing is confidence,
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Druga stvar je sigurnost,
12:04
that we can see how game-playing and reward structures
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vidimo kako igranje igara i struktura nagrada
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make people braver, make them more willing to take risks,
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čine ljude hrabrijima, voljnijima da se upuštaju u rizike,
12:09
more willing to take on difficulty,
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da se bore sa teškoćama,
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harder to discourage.
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teže ih je obeshrabriti.
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This can all seem very sinister.
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Sve ovo može da izgleda veoma opako.
12:15
But you know, sort of "our brains have been manipulated; we're all addicts."
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Znate, kao "Našim mozgovima se manipuliše, svi smo zavisnici".
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The word "addiction" is thrown around.
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Koristi se reč zavisnost.
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There are real concerns there.
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Tu postoje ozbiljne brige.
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But the biggest neurological turn-on for people
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Ali ono što na neurološkom nivou najviše
12:23
is other people.
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uzbuđuje ljude su drugi ljudi.
12:25
This is what really excites us.
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To nas stvarno podstiče.
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In reward terms, it's not money;
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U terminima nagrada, to nije novac,
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it's not being given cash -- that's nice --
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nije dobijanje gotovine - to je lepo -
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it's doing stuff with our peers,
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nego kad radimo nešto sa drugima,
12:35
watching us, collaborating with us.
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kada nas posmatraju, kada sarađujemo.
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And I want to tell you a quick story about 1999 --
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Želim da vam ispričam kratku priču o 1999. godini -
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a video game called EverQuest.
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o video igri "Everquest".
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And in this video game,
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U njoj su postojala dva
12:43
there were two really big dragons, and you had to team up to kill them --
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ogromna zmaja i trebalo je da se udružite da biste ih ubili -
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42 people, up to 42 to kill these big dragons.
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42 ljudi - do 42 da bi se ubili ovi zmajevi.
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That's a problem
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To je problem, jer
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because they dropped two or three decent items.
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su oni za sobom ostavljali dva ili tri dobra predmeta.
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So players addressed this problem
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Igrači su ovom problemu prišli tako
12:57
by spontaneously coming up with a system
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što su spontano pronašli sistem
12:59
to motivate each other,
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međusobne motivacije,
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fairly and transparently.
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pošteno i otvoreno.
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What happened was, they paid each other a virtual currency
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Oni su jedni drugima plaćali virtuelnom valutom
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they called "dragon kill points."
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koju su zvali poenima za ubijanje zmaja.
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And every time you turned up to go on a mission,
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I svaki put kad biste se pojavili u nekoj misiji,
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you got paid in dragon kill points.
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plaćali bi vas poenima za ubijanje zmaja.
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They tracked these on a separate website.
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To su beležili na posebnom veb sajtu.
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So they tracked their own private currency,
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Pratili su sopstvenu privatnu valutu,
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and then players could bid afterwards
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a igrači su kasnije mogli da se nadmeću
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for cool items they wanted --
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za kul predmete koje su želeli -
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all organized by the players themselves.
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to su sve organizovali sami igrači.
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Now the staggering system, not just that this worked in EverQuest,
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Ovaj zadivljujuć sistem nije funkcionisao samo u ovoj igri,
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but that today, a decade on,
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nego danas, deset godina kasnije,
13:28
every single video game in the world with this kind of task
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svaka igra na svetu sa ovakvom vrstom zadatka
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uses a version of this system --
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koristi neku varijantu ovog sistema -
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tens of millions of people.
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desetine miliona ljudi.
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And the success rate
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A nivo uspešnosti
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is at close to 100 percent.
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je blizu 100%.
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This is a player-developed,
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Ovo je dobrovoljna, samoprimenljiva
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self-enforcing, voluntary currency,
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valuta, koju su razvili igrači,
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and it's incredibly sophisticated
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i to je veoma sofisticirano
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player behavior.
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igračko ponašanje.
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And I just want to end by suggesting
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Želim da završim predlažući
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a few ways in which these principles
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nekoliko načina na koje ovi principi
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could fan out into the world.
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mogu da se prošire u svetu.
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Let's start with business.
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Počeću sa poslovanjem.
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I mean, we're beginning to see some of the big problems
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Mislim, viđamo neke od velikih problema
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around something like business are
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u stvarima kao što su biznis,
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recycling and energy conservation.
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recikliranje i ušteda energije.
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We're beginning to see the emergence of wonderful technologies
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Viđamo pojavu izuzetnih tehnologija
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like real-time energy meters.
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kao što su merači energije.
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And I just look at this, and I think, yes,
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Gledam to i mislim, da,
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we could take that so much further
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možemo otići mnogo dalje s ovim,
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by allowing people to set targets
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dozvoljavajući ljudima da postave ciljeve,
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by setting calibrated targets,
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postavljajući odmerene ciljeve,
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by using elements of uncertainty,
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koristeći elemente nesigurnosti,
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by using these multiple targets,
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koristeći više ciljeva,
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by using a grand, underlying reward and incentive system,
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koristeći sistem implicitnih nagrada i motivacije,
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by setting people up
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podstičući ljude da
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to collaborate in terms of groups, in terms of streets
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sarađuju u grupama, ulicama,
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to collaborate and compete,
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sarađuju i takmiče se,
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to use these very sophisticated
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da iskoriste ove veoma prefinjene
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group and motivational mechanics we see.
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grupne i motivacione mehanizme.
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In terms of education,
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Kad govorimo o obrazovanju,
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perhaps most obviously of all,
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možda najočiglednije možemo
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we can transform how we engage people.
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da preoblikujemo način na koji angažujemo ljude.
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We can offer people the grand continuity
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Možemo ponuditi ljudima kontinuitet
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of experience and personal investment.
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iskustva i lične investicije.
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We can break things down
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Možemo razložiti stvari na
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into highly calibrated small tasks.
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veoma specifične male zadatke.
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We can use calculated randomness.
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Možemo koristiti proračunatu nasumičnost.
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We can reward effort consistently
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Možemo stalno nagrađivati napor
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as everything fields together.
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kako se stvari uklapaju.
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And we can use the kind of group behaviors
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I možemo koristiti grupna ponašanja
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that we see evolving when people are at play together,
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koja se razvijaju kada ljudi igraju zajedno,
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these really quite unprecedentedly complex
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te složene mehanizme saradnje
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cooperative mechanisms.
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koji se potpuno bez presedana.
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Government, well, one thing that comes to mind
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Vlada, pa pada mi na pamet da
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is the U.S. government, among others,
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američka vlada, pored drugih,
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is literally starting to pay people
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bukvalno počinje da plaća
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to lose weight.
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ljudima da smršaju.
15:17
So we're seeing financial reward being used
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Dakle vidimo da se finansijska nagrada koristi
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to tackle the great issue of obesity.
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za tretiranje ogromnog problema gojaznosti.
15:21
But again, those rewards
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Ali opet, te nagrade
15:23
could be calibrated so precisely
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mogu precizno da se odrede
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if we were able to use the vast expertise
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kad bismo mogli da koristimo veliku stručnost
15:29
of gaming systems to just jack up that appeal,
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sistema igara da bismo samo to pokrenuli,
15:32
to take the data, to take the observations,
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da skupimo podatke, skupimo posmatranja
15:34
of millions of human hours
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miliona ljudskih sati
15:36
and plow that feedback
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da bismo utkali tu povratnu informaciju
15:38
into increasing engagement.
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u povećanje angažovanosti.
15:40
And in the end, it's this word, "engagement,"
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Na kraju, ta reč, angažovanje,
15:43
that I want to leave you with.
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je ono s čim želim da vas ostavim.
15:45
It's about how individual engagement
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Kako individualno angažovanje
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can be transformed
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može da se transformiše
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by the psychological and the neurological lessons
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psihološkim i neurološkim lekcijama
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we can learn from watching people that are playing games.
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koje možemo naučiti iz posmatranja ljudi koji igraju igre.
15:55
But it's also about collective engagement
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Ali radi se i o kolektivnoj angažovanosti
15:58
and about the unprecedented laboratory
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i jedinstvenoj laboratoriji
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for observing what makes people tick
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za posmatranje toga šta ljude podstiče
16:03
and work and play and engage
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da rade i igraju i da se angažuju
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on a grand scale in games.
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u velikoj meri u igrama.
16:08
And if we can look at these things and learn from them
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I ako možemo da posmatramo ove stvari i iz njih učimo
16:11
and see how to turn them outwards,
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i vidimo kako da ih iskoristimo,
16:13
then I really think we have something quite revolutionary on our hands.
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onda mislim da imamo nešto revolucionarno u rukama.
16:16
Thank you very much.
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Mnogo vam hvala.
16:18
(Applause)
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(aplauz)
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