Paul Bloom: Can prejudice ever be a good thing?

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Prevodilac: Ivana Krivokuća Lektor: Mile Živković
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When we think about prejudice and bias,
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Kada pomislimo na predrasude i pristrasnosti,
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we tend to think about stupid and evil people
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skloni smo da mislimo na glupe i zle ljude
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doing stupid and evil things.
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koji rade glupe i zle stvari.
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And this idea is nicely summarized
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Ovu ideju je lepo sumirao
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by the British critic William Hazlitt,
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britanski kritičar Vilijem Hezlit,
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who wrote, "Prejudice is the child of ignorance."
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koji je napisao: "Predrasuda je dete neznanja."
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I want to try to convince you here
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Želim da pokušam da vas ovde uverim
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that this is mistaken.
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da je ovo pogrešno.
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I want to try to convince you
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Želim da pokušam da vas uverim
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that prejudice and bias
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da su predrasude i pristrasnosti
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are natural, they're often rational,
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prirodne, često su racionalne,
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and they're often even moral,
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i često su čak i moralne,
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and I think that once we understand this,
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i mislim da čim ovo budemo razumeli,
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we're in a better position to make sense of them
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bićemo u boljem položaju da ih razumemo
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when they go wrong,
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kada krenu po zlu,
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when they have horrible consequences,
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kada imaju užasne posledice,
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and we're in a better position to know what to do
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i bićemo u boljem položaju da znamo šta da radimo
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when this happens.
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kada se ovo dogodi.
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So, start with stereotypes. You look at me,
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Dakle, počnimo sa stereotipima. Vi me gledate,
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you know my name, you know certain facts about me,
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znate moje ime, znate izvesne podatke o meni,
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and you could make certain judgments.
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i mogli biste da donesete neke zaključke.
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You could make guesses about my ethnicity,
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Mogli biste da pravite pretpostavke o mojoj nacionalnosti,
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my political affiliation, my religious beliefs.
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mojoj političkoj pripadnosti, mojim religijskim uverenjima.
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And the thing is, these judgments tend to be accurate.
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Stvar je u tome da su ove procene uglavnom tačne.
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We're very good at this sort of thing.
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Mi smo veoma dobri u ovakvim stvarima.
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And we're very good at this sort of thing
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I veoma smo dobri
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because our ability to stereotype people
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jer naša sposobnost da stereotipišemo ljude
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is not some sort of arbitrary quirk of the mind,
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nije samo proizvoljni hir uma,
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but rather it's a specific instance
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već je pre specifičan primer
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of a more general process,
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opštijeg procesa,
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which is that we have experience
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a to je da imamo iskustvo
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with things and people in the world
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sa stvarima i ljudima u svetu
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that fall into categories,
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koji upadaju u kategorije,
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and we can use our experience to make generalizations
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i možemo da koristimo to iskustvo da pravimo generalizacije
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about novel instances of these categories.
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o novim slučajevima ovih kategorija.
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So everybody here has a lot of experience
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Svako ovde ima dosta iskustva
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with chairs and apples and dogs,
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sa stolicama i jabukama i psima,
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and based on this, you could see
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i na osnovu toga, mogli biste uočiti
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unfamiliar examples and you could guess,
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nepoznate primere i mogli biste pogoditi,
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you could sit on the chair,
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možete sedeti na stolici,
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you could eat the apple, the dog will bark.
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možete pojesti jabuku, pas će lajati.
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Now we might be wrong.
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Sad, možda grešimo. Stolica bi mogla
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The chair could collapse if you sit on it,
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da se sruši ako sednete na nju,
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the apple might be poison, the dog might not bark,
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jabuka bi mogla biti otrovna, pas možda ne bi lajao,
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and in fact, this is my dog Tessie, who doesn't bark.
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i zapravo, ovo je moj pas Tesi, koji ne laje.
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But for the most part, we're good at this.
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Ali većim delom, mi smo dobri u ovome.
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For the most part, we make good guesses
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Većim delom, pravimo dobre pretpostavke
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both in the social domain and the non-social domain,
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kako u socijalnom tako i u nesocijalnom domenu,
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and if we weren't able to do so,
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i kad ne bismo mogli da to činimo,
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if we weren't able to make guesses about new instances that we encounter,
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kad ne bismo mogli da nagađamo o novim slučajevima na koje nailazimo,
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we wouldn't survive.
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ne bismo preživeli.
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And in fact, Hazlitt later on in his wonderful essay
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I zapravo, Hezlit kasnije u svom izvrsnom eseju
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concedes this.
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priznaje ovo.
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He writes, "Without the aid of prejudice and custom,
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On piše: "Bez pomoći predrasude i navike,
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I should not be able to find my way my across the room;
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ne bih bio u stanju da pronađem put kroz sobu,
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nor know how to conduct myself in any circumstances,
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niti da znam kako da se rukovodim u bilo kojim okolnostima,
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nor what to feel in any relation of life."
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niti šta da osećam u bilo kom životnom pogledu."
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Or take bias.
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Ili uzmite naklonosti.
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Now sometimes, we break the world up into
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Ponekad delimo svet na nas protiv njih,
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us versus them, into in-group versus out-group,
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na unutar grupe protiv van grupe,
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and sometimes when we do this,
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i ponekad kada ovo činimo,
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we know we're doing something wrong,
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znamo da radimo nešto pogrešno,
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and we're kind of ashamed of it.
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i nekako se stidimo toga.
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But other times we're proud of it.
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Ali u drugim prilikama se ponosimo time.
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We openly acknowledge it.
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Otvoreno to priznajemo.
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And my favorite example of this
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Moj omiljeni primer ovoga
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is a question that came from the audience
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jeste pitanje koje je došlo iz publike
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in a Republican debate prior to the last election.
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na republikanskoj debati pred poslednje izbore.
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(Video) Anderson Cooper: Gets to your question,
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(Video) Anderson Kuper: Stižemo do vašeg pitanja,
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the question in the hall, on foreign aid? Yes, ma'am.
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pitanja u sali, u vezi sa inostranom pomoći? Da, gospođo.
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Woman: The American people are suffering
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Žena: Američki narod pati
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in our country right now.
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u našoj zemlji baš sada.
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Why do we continue to send foreign aid
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Zašto nastavljamo da šaljemo inostranu pomoć
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to other countries
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drugim zemljama
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when we need all the help we can get for ourselves?
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kada nam je potrebna sva pomoć koju možemo da pribavimo za sebe?
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AC: Governor Perry, what about that?
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AK: Guverneru Peri, šta kažete na to?
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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Rick Perry: Absolutely, I think it's—
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Rik Peri: Apsolutno, ja smatram da -
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Paul Bloom: Each of the people onstage
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Pol Blum: Svako od ljudi na sceni
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agreed with the premise of her question,
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se složio sa premisom njenog pitanja,
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which is as Americans, we should care more
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a to je da bi, kao Amerikanci, trebalo da više brinemo
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about Americans than about other people.
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o Amerikancima nego o drugim ljudima.
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And in fact, in general, people are often swayed
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I zapravo, uopšte, ljudima često upravljaju
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by feelings of solidarity, loyalty, pride, patriotism,
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osećanja solidarnosti, lojalnosti, ponosa, patriotizma,
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towards their country or towards their ethnic group.
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prema njihovoj zemlji ili prema njihovoj etničkoj grupi.
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Regardless of your politics, many people feel proud to be American,
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Bez obzira na politiku, mnogi ljudi su ponosni što su Amerikanci,
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and they favor Americans over other countries.
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i favorizuju Amerikance u odnosu na druge zemlje.
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Residents of other countries feel the same about their nation,
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Stanovnici drugih zemalja isto osećaju za svoju naciju,
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and we feel the same about our ethnicities.
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i isto osećamo za naše nacionalnosti.
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Now some of you may reject this.
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Neki od vas mogu ovo odbaciti.
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Some of you may be so cosmopolitan
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Neki od vas mogu biti takve kosmopolite
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that you think that ethnicity and nationality
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da mislite da nacionalnost i državljanstvo
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should hold no moral sway.
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ne bi trebalo da imaju moralnog uticaja.
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But even you sophisticates accept
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Ali čak i vi sofisticirani prihvatate
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that there should be some pull
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da bi trebalo da postoji neka prednost
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towards the in-group in the domain of friends and family,
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data unutar grupe u domenu prijatelja i porodice,
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of people you're close to,
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ljudi kojima ste bliski,
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and so even you make a distinction
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i tako čak i vi pravite razliku
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between us versus them.
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između nas protiv njih.
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Now, this distinction is natural enough
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Sad, ova razlika je dovoljno prirodna
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and often moral enough, but it can go awry,
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i često dovoljno moralna, ali može da pođe naopako,
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and this was part of the research
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a ovo je bilo deo istraživanja
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of the great social psychologist Henri Tajfel.
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sjajnog socijalnog psihologa Henrija Tažfela.
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Tajfel was born in Poland in 1919.
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Tažfel je rođen u Poljskoj 1919. godine.
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He left to go to university in France,
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Otišao je na univerzitet u Francuskoj,
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because as a Jew, he couldn't go to university in Poland,
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jer kao Jevrejin nije mogao da ide na univerzitet u Poljskoj,
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and then he enlisted in the French military
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i zatim se priključio francuskoj vojsci
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in World War II.
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u Drugom svetskom ratu.
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He was captured and ended up
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Bio je uhvaćen i završio je
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in a prisoner of war camp,
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kao zarobljenik ratnog logora,
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and it was a terrifying time for him,
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i to je bilo zastrašujuće vreme za njega,
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because if it was discovered that he was a Jew,
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jer ako bi bilo otkriveno da je Jevrejin,
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he could have been moved to a concentration camp,
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mogao bi biti premešten u koncentracioni logor,
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where he most likely would not have survived.
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gde najverovatnije ne bi preživeo.
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And in fact, when the war ended and he was released,
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I zapravo, kada se rat završio i on je bio oslobođen,
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most of his friends and family were dead.
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većina njegovih prijatelja i porodice su bili mrtvi.
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He got involved in different pursuits.
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On se uključio u različite poslove.
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He helped out the war orphans.
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Pomagao je ratnim siročićima.
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But he had a long-lasting interest
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Ali je imao dugotrajno interesovanje
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in the science of prejudice,
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za nauku predrasuda,
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and so when a prestigious British scholarship
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i tako kada se pojavila prestižna britanska stipendija
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on stereotypes opened up, he applied for it,
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za stereotipe, prijavio se za nju,
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and he won it,
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i dobio ju je,
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and then he began this amazing career.
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i onda je započela ova neverovatna karijera.
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And what started his career is an insight
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A ono čime je počela njegova karijera jeste uvid da je
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that the way most people were thinking
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način na koji su mnogi ljudi razmišljali
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about the Holocaust was wrong.
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o holokaustu bio pogrešan.
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Many people, most people at the time,
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Mnogi ljudi, većina ljudi u to vreme,
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viewed the Holocaust as sort of representing
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vide holokaust kao nekakvu
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some tragic flaw on the part of the Germans,
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tragičnu grešku Nemaca,
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some genetic taint, some authoritarian personality.
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neku genetsku mrlju, neku autoritarnu ličnost.
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And Tajfel rejected this.
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A Tažfel je ovo odbacio.
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Tajfel said what we see in the Holocaust
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Tažfel je rekao da je ono što vidimo u holokaustu
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is just an exaggeration
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samo preuveličavanje
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of normal psychological processes
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normalnih psiholoških procesa
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that exist in every one of us.
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koji postoji u svakom od nas.
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And to explore this, he did a series of classic studies
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I da bi ovo istražio, uradio je seriju klasičnih studija
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with British adolescents.
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sa britanskim adolescentima.
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And in one of his studies, what he did was he asked
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U jednoj od tih studija,
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the British adolescents all sorts of questions,
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britanskim adolescentima je postavljao najrazličitija pitanja,
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and then based on their answers, he said,
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i zatim je na osnovu odgovora govorio -
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"I've looked at your answers, and based on the answers,
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"Pogledao sam vaše odgovore, i na osnovu njih,
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I have determined that you are either" —
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odredio sam da ste ili" -
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he told half of them —
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polovini je rekao -
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"a Kandinsky lover, you love the work of Kandinsky,
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"ljubitelj Kandinskog, volite dela Kandinskog,
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or a Klee lover, you love the work of Klee."
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ili ljubitelj Klea, volite dela Klea."
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It was entirely bogus.
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To je bilo potpuno izmišljeno.
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Their answers had nothing to do with Kandinsky or Klee.
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Njihovi odgovori nisu imali veze sa Kandinskim ili Kleom.
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They probably hadn't heard of the artists.
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Oni verovatno nisu čuli za te umetnike.
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He just arbitrarily divided them up.
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On ih je samo proizvoljno podelio.
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But what he found was, these categories mattered,
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Ali ono što je otkrio jeste da su ove kategorije bile od značaja,
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so when he later gave the subjects money,
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tako da kada je kasnije davao subjektima novac,
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they would prefer to give the money
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oni su preferirali da daju novac
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to members of their own group
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članovima sopstvene grupe
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than members of the other group.
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nego članovima druge grupe.
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Worse, they were actually most interested
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Još gore, bili su zapravo najzainteresovaniji
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in establishing a difference
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da utvrde razliku
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between their group and other groups,
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između njihove grupe i drugih grupa,
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so they would give up money for their own group
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tako da bi prepustili novac za sopstvenu grupu
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if by doing so they could give the other group even less.
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ako bi čineći to mogli da daju drugoj grupi još manje.
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This bias seems to show up very early.
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Čini se da se ova sklonost javlja veoma rano.
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So my colleague and wife, Karen Wynn, at Yale
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Tako je moja koleginica i žena, Karen Vin, na Jejlu
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has done a series of studies with babies
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uradila niz istraživanja sa bebama
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where she exposes babies to puppets,
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gde je izlagala bebe lutkama,
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and the puppets have certain food preferences.
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i te lutke imaju određene preferencije za hranu.
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So one of the puppets might like green beans.
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Jedna od lutaka bi mogla da voli boraniju.
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The other puppet might like graham crackers.
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Druga lutka bi mogla da voli integralne krekere.
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They test the babies own food preferences,
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Testiraju bebine lične preferencije hrane
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and babies typically prefer the graham crackers.
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i bebe tipično više vole integralne krekere.
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But the question is, does this matter to babies
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Ali pitanje je, da li je ovo važno bebama
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in how they treat the puppets? And it matters a lot.
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u tome kako tretiraju lutke? A znači dosta.
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They tend to prefer the puppet
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One obično preferiraju lutku
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who has the same food tastes that they have,
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koja ima isti ukus za hranu kakav one imaju,
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and worse, they actually prefer puppets
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i još gore, one zapravo preferiraju lutke
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who punish the puppet with the different food taste.
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koje kažnjavaju lutke sa različitim ukusom za hranu.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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We see this sort of in-group, out-group psychology all the time.
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Mi stalno vidimo ovu vrstu unutargrupne, izvangrupne psihologije.
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We see it in political clashes
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Vidimo je u političkim sukobima
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within groups with different ideologies.
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unutar grupa sa različitim ideologijama.
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We see it in its extreme in cases of war,
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Vidimo je u svojoj krajnosti u slučajevima rata,
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where the out-group isn't merely given less,
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gde spoljnoj grupi ne samo da je dato manje,
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but dehumanized,
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već je ona dehumanizovana,
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as in the Nazi perspective of Jews
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kao u nacističkoj perspektivi Jevreja
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as vermin or lice,
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kao gamadi ili vašaka,
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or the American perspective of Japanese as rats.
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ili američkoj perspektivi o Japancima kao pacovima.
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Stereotypes can also go awry.
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Stereotipi takođe mogu da pođu naopako.
07:16
So often they're rational and useful,
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Dakle, često su racionalni i korisni,
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but sometimes they're irrational,
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ali ponekad su iracionalni,
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they give the wrong answers,
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daju pogrešne odgovore,
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and other times
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a u drugim prilikama
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they lead to plainly immoral consequences.
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vode do očigledno nemoralnih posledica.
07:24
And the case that's been most studied
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A slučaj koji je bio najviše izučavan
07:27
is the case of race.
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je slučaj rase.
07:29
There was a fascinating study
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Postoji fascinantno istraživanje
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prior to the 2008 election
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koje je prethodilo izborima 2008. godine
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where social psychologists looked at the extent
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gde su socijalni psiholozi promatrali opseg
07:35
to which the candidates were associated with America,
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u kojem su kandidati bili povezivani sa Amerikom,
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as in an unconscious association with the American flag.
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kao u nesvesnoj asocijaciji sa američkom zastavom.
U jednoj od studija su uporedili
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And in one of their studies they compared
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07:44
Obama and McCain, and they found McCain
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Obamu i Mekejna, i pronašli su da je Mekejn
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is thought of as more American than Obama,
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više smatran Amerikancem nego Obama,
07:49
and to some extent, people aren't that surprised by hearing that.
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i do izvesne mere, ljudi nisu toliko iznenađeni što to čuju.
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McCain is a celebrated war hero,
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Mekejn je proslavljeni ratni heroj,
07:54
and many people would explicitly say
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i mnogi ljudi bi eksplicitno rekli
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he has more of an American story than Obama.
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da ima više američku priču od Obame.
07:58
But they also compared Obama
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Ali su takođe uporedili Obamu
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to British Prime Minister Tony Blair,
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sa britanskim premijerom Tonijem Blerom,
08:03
and they found that Blair was also thought of
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i otkrili su da je Bler takođe smatran
08:05
as more American than Obama,
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kao više američki od Obame,
08:07
even though subjects explicitly understood
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iako su subjekti eksplicitno shvatali
08:09
that he's not American at all.
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da on uopšte nije Amerikanac.
08:12
But they were responding, of course,
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Ali oni su reagovali, naravno,
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to the color of his skin.
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na boju njegove kože.
08:17
These stereotypes and biases
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Ovi stereotipi i pristrasnosti
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have real-world consequences,
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imaju posledice u stvarnom svetu,
08:20
both subtle and very important.
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ujedno suptilne i vrlo značajne.
08:23
In one recent study, researchers
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U jednoj skorijoj studiji, istraživači
08:26
put ads on eBay for the sale of baseball cards.
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su stavljali oglase na Ibej za prodaju bejzbol kartica.
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Some of them were held by white hands,
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Neke od njih su držale bele ruke,
08:32
others by black hands.
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a druge crne.
08:33
They were the same baseball cards.
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To su bile iste bejzbol kartice.
08:35
The ones held by black hands
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One koje su držale crne ruke
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got substantially smaller bids
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su dobile znatno manje ponude
08:38
than the ones held by white hands.
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nego one koje su držale bele ruke.
08:41
In research done at Stanford,
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U istraživanju obavljenom na Stenfordu,
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psychologists explored the case of people
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psiholozi su ispitivali slučaj ljudi
08:47
sentenced for the murder of a white person.
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osuđenih zbog ubistva bele osobe.
08:51
It turns out, holding everything else constant,
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Ispostavilo se, kada se sve ostalo drži konstantnim,
08:53
you are considerably more likely to be executed
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znatno je verovatnije da ćete biti pogubljeni
08:56
if you look like the man on the right
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ako izgledate kao čovek sa desne strane
08:58
than the man on the left,
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nego kao čovek sa leve strane,
09:00
and this is in large part because
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a to je većim delom jer
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the man on the right looks more prototypically black,
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čovek desno izgleda više prototipski crno,
09:04
more prototypically African-American,
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više prototipski afroamerički,
09:07
and this apparently influences people's decisions
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i ovo očigledno utiče na odluke ljudi
09:09
over what to do about him.
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o tome šta da urade sa njim.
09:11
So now that we know about this,
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Sada kada znamo sve ovo,
09:12
how do we combat it?
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kako da se borimo sa time?
09:14
And there are different avenues.
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Postoje različiti pristupi.
09:15
One avenue is to appeal
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Jedan pristup je privući
09:17
to people's emotional responses,
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emocionalne reakcije ljudi,
09:19
to appeal to people's empathy,
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privući empatiju ljudi,
09:21
and we often do that through stories.
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i često to i radimo kroz priče.
09:23
So if you are a liberal parent
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Tako da ako ste liberalni roditelj
09:25
and you want to encourage your children
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i želite da podstaknete svoju decu
09:27
to believe in the merits of nontraditional families,
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da veruju u vrednosti netradicionalnih porodica,
09:30
you might give them a book like this. ["Heather Has Two Mommies"]
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možda ćete im dati knjigu kao što je ova.
09:32
If you are conservative and have a different attitude,
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Ako ste konzervativni i imate drugačiji stav,
09:34
you might give them a book like this.
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možda ćete im dati knjigu kao što je ova.
09:36
(Laughter) ["Help! Mom! There Are Liberals under My Bed!"]
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(Smeh)
09:37
But in general, stories can turn
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Ali uopšteno, priče mogu pretvoriti
09:41
anonymous strangers into people who matter,
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anonimne strance u ljude koji su važni,
09:43
and the idea that we care about people
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i ideja da nam je stalo do ljudi
09:46
when we focus on them as individuals
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kada se fokusiramo na njih kao individue
09:47
is an idea which has shown up across history.
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je ideja koja se javljala kroz istoriju.
09:50
So Stalin apocryphally said,
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Tako je Staljin navodno rekao:
09:52
"A single death is a tragedy,
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"Pojedinačna smrt je tragedija,
09:54
a million deaths is a statistic,"
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milion smrti je statistički podatak",
09:56
and Mother Teresa said,
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a Majka Tereza je rekla:
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"If I look at the mass, I will never act.
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"Ako pogledam masu, nikada neću delovati.
09:59
If I look at the one, I will."
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Ako pogledam pojedinca, hoću."
10:01
Psychologists have explored this.
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Psiholozi su istraživali ovo.
10:03
For instance, in one study,
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Na primer, u jednoj studiji,
10:05
people were given a list of facts about a crisis,
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ljudima su dali listu činjenica o krizi,
10:07
and it was seen how much they would donate
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i posmatrano je koliko će oni donirati
10:12
to solve this crisis,
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da bi razrešili krizu,
10:13
and another group was given no facts at all
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a drugoj grupi nisu dali nikakve činjenice
10:15
but they were told of an individual
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ali im je govoreno o pojedincu
10:17
and given a name and given a face,
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i dato im je ime i lice,
10:20
and it turns out that they gave far more.
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i ispostavlja se da su oni dali daleko više.
10:23
None of this I think is a secret
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Ništa od ovoga nije tajna za ljude
10:25
to the people who are engaged in charity work.
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koji su angažovani u dobrotvornom radu.
10:27
People don't tend to deluge people
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Ljudi nisu skloni da preplave ljude
10:29
with facts and statistics.
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činjenicama i statistikom.
10:31
Rather, you show them faces,
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Umesto toga,
10:32
you show them people.
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pokazujete im lica i ljude.
10:33
It's possible that by extending our sympathies
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Moguće je da širenjem naših simpatija
10:37
to an individual, they can spread
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ka pojedincu, one se mogu raširiti
10:39
to the group that the individual belongs to.
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prema grupi kojoj pojedinac pripada.
10:42
This is Harriet Beecher Stowe.
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Ovo je Herijet Bičer Stou.
10:44
The story, perhaps apocryphal,
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Priča, možda izmišljena,
10:46
is that President Lincoln invited her
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je da ju je predsednik Linkoln pozvao
10:49
to the White House in the middle of the Civil War
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u Belu Kuću usred Građanskog rata
10:51
and said to her,
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i rekao joj:
10:52
"So you're the little lady who started this great war."
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"Dakle, ti si ta mala dama koja je započela ovaj veliki rat."
10:55
And he was talking about "Uncle Tom's Cabin."
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A govorio je o "Čiča Tominoj kolibi".
10:57
"Uncle Tom's Cabin" is not a great book of philosophy
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"Čiča Tomina koliba" nije velika knjiga filozofije
10:59
or of theology or perhaps not even literature,
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ili teologije ili možda čak ni književnosti
11:02
but it does a great job
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ali je obavila sjajan posao
11:05
of getting people to put themselves in the shoes
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pridobijanja ljudi da se postave na mesto
11:07
of people they wouldn't otherwise be in the shoes of,
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ljudi na čijem mestu se inače ne bi našli,
11:10
put themselves in the shoes of slaves.
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da se postave na mesto robova.
11:12
And that could well have been a catalyst
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A to je mogao biti katalizator
11:14
for great social change.
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velike socijalne promene.
11:15
More recently, looking at America
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U skorije vreme, posmatrajući Ameriku
11:18
in the last several decades,
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poslednjih nekoliko decenija,
11:21
there's some reason to believe that shows like "The Cosby Show"
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ima razloga verovati da su programi kao što je "Kozbi Šou"
11:24
radically changed American attitudes towards African-Americans,
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radikalno izmenili stavove Amerikanaca prema Afroamerikancima,
11:27
while shows like "Will and Grace" and "Modern Family"
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dok su serije kao što je "Vil i Grejs" i "Moderna porodica"
11:30
changed American attitudes
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promenile stavove Amerikanaca
11:31
towards gay men and women.
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prema gej muškarcima i ženama.
11:32
I don't think it's an exaggeration to say
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Mislim da nije preterivanje reći
11:35
that the major catalyst in America for moral change
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da su važni katalizatori moralne promene u Americi
11:38
has been a situation comedy.
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bile situacione komedije.
11:40
But it's not all emotions,
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Ali ne radi se samo o emocijama,
11:42
and I want to end by appealing
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i želim da završim
11:43
to the power of reason.
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pozivajući se na moć razuma.
11:45
At some point in his wonderful book
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U nekom trenutku u njegovoj divnoj knjizi
11:47
"The Better Angels of Our Nature,"
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"Bolji anđeli naše prirode",
11:49
Steven Pinker says,
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Stiven Pinker kaže,
11:51
the Old Testament says love thy neighbor,
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Stari zavet kaže - voli svog bližnjeg,
11:53
and the New Testament says love thy enemy,
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a Novi zavet kaže - voli svog neprijatelja,
11:56
but I don't love either one of them, not really,
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ali ja ne volim nikog od njih, ne zaista,
11:59
but I don't want to kill them.
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ali ne želim da ih ubijem.
12:00
I know I have obligations to them,
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Znam da imam obaveze prema njima,
12:02
but my moral feelings to them, my moral beliefs
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ali moja moralna osećanja prema njima, moja moralna uverenja u vezi sa tim
12:06
about how I should behave towards them,
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kako treba da se ponašam prema njima,
12:07
aren't grounded in love.
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nisu utemeljena u ljubavi.
12:09
What they're grounded in is the understanding of human rights,
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Utemeljena su u razumevanju ljudskih prava,
12:11
a belief that their life is as valuable to them
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verovanju da je njihov život isto toliko
12:14
as my life is to me,
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vredan za njih koliko i moj život za mene,
12:16
and to support this, he tells a story
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i da bi ovo odbranio, on priča priču
12:18
by the great philosopher Adam Smith,
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velikog filozofa Adama Smita,
12:20
and I want to tell this story too,
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i želim da i ja ispričam ovu priču,
12:21
though I'm going to modify it a little bit
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mada ću je malčiće izmeniti
12:23
for modern times.
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zarad savremenog doba.
12:24
So Adam Smith starts by asking you to imagine
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Adam Smit počinje tražeći da zamislite
12:26
the death of thousands of people,
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smrt hiljada ljudi,
12:28
and imagine that the thousands of people
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i zamislite da su te hiljade ljudi
12:30
are in a country you are not familiar with.
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u zemlji koja vam nije bliska.
12:33
It could be China or India or a country in Africa.
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To bi mogla biti Kina ili Indija ili neka zemlja u Africi.
12:36
And Smith says, how would you respond?
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I Smit kaže, kako biste reagovali?
12:39
And you would say, well that's too bad,
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Vi biste rekli, pa to je šteta,
12:41
and you'd go on to the rest of your life.
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i nastavili biste dalje sa svojim životom.
12:43
If you were to open up The New York Times online or something,
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Ako biste otvorili Njujork Tajms onlajn ili tako nešto,
12:45
and discover this, and in fact this happens to us all the time,
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i otkrili ovo, a to nam se zapravo stalno dešava,
12:48
we go about our lives.
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idemo dalje našim životima.
12:49
But imagine instead, Smith says,
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Ali zamislite umesto toga, kaže Smit,
12:52
you were to learn that tomorrow
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da saznate da će vam sutra
12:53
you were to have your little finger chopped off.
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odseći mali prst.
12:55
Smith says, that would matter a lot.
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Smit kaže, to bi bilo veoma bitno.
12:58
You would not sleep that night
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Ne biste spavali te noći
12:59
wondering about that.
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pitajući se o tome.
13:00
So this raises the question:
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Ovo postavlja pitanje:
13:02
Would you sacrifice thousands of lives
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da li biste žrtvovali hiljade života
13:05
to save your little finger?
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da biste sačuvali svoj mali prst?
13:07
Now answer this in the privacy of your own head,
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Sada odgovorite na ovo u privatnosti svoje glave,
13:09
but Smith says, absolutely not,
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ali Smit kaže, apsolutno ne,
13:12
what a horrid thought.
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kakva užasna pomisao.
13:14
And so this raises the question,
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I to onda postavlja pitanje,
13:16
and so, as Smith puts it,
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i kako Smit to izražava:
13:17
"When our passive feelings are almost always
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"Kada su naša pasivna osećanja skoro uvek
13:19
so sordid and so selfish,
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tako grozna i sebična,
13:21
how comes it that our active principles
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kako to da su naši aktivni principi
13:22
should often be so generous and so noble?"
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često tako velikodušni i plemeniti?"
13:25
And Smith's answer is, "It is reason,
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A Smitov odgovor je: "To je razum,
13:27
principle, conscience.
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princip, savest.
13:29
[This] calls to us,
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Ovo nas poziva,
13:30
with a voice capable of astonishing the most presumptuous of our passions,
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glasom sposobnim da zaprepasti najdrskiju od naših strasti,
13:34
that we are but one of the multitude,
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da smo samo jedan u mnoštvu,
13:35
in no respect better than any other in it."
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ni u kom pogledu bolji nego bilo ko drugi u njemu."
13:38
And this last part is what is often described
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Ovaj poslednji deo je ono što se često opisuje
13:40
as the principle of impartiality.
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kao princip nepristrasnosti.
13:43
And this principle of impartiality manifests itself
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Ovaj princip nepristrasnosti se manifestuje
13:46
in all of the world's religions,
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u svim svetskim religijama,
13:47
in all of the different versions of the golden rule,
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u svim različitim verzijama zlatnog pravila,
13:50
and in all of the world's moral philosophies,
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u svim svetskim moralnim filozofijama, koje se razlikuju
13:52
which differ in many ways
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na mnogo načina
13:53
but share the presupposition that we should judge morality
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ali dele pretpostavku da bi trebalo procenjivati moralnost
13:56
from sort of an impartial point of view.
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sa nepristrasne tačke gledišta.
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The best articulation of this view
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Najbolja artikulacija ovog stanovišta
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is actually, for me, it's not from a theologian or from a philosopher,
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nije zapravo, za mene, potekla od teologa ili filozofa,
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but from Humphrey Bogart
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već od Hemfrija Bogarta
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at the end of "Casablanca."
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na kraju "Kazablanke".
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So, spoiler alert, he's telling his lover
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Upozorenje za one koji nisu gledali, on govori svojoj ljubavnici
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that they have to separate
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da moraju da se razdvoje
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for the more general good,
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zbog opšteg dobra,
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and he says to her, and I won't do the accent,
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i kaže joj, a neću da oponašam akcent,
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but he says to her, "It doesn't take much to see
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no kaže: "Ne treba puno da bismo videli
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that the problems of three little people
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da problemi tri mala čoveka
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don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world."
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nisu ravni brdu pasulja u ovom ludom svetu."
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Our reason could cause us to override our passions.
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Naš razum može dovesti do toga da pređemo preko naših strasti.
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Our reason could motivate us
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Naš razum nas može motivisati
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to extend our empathy,
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da povećamo našu empatiju,
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could motivate us to write a book like "Uncle Tom's Cabin,"
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da napišemo knjigu kao što je "Čiča Tomina koliba",
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or read a book like "Uncle Tom's Cabin,"
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ili je pročitamo,
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and our reason can motivate us to create
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i naš razum nas može motivisati da stvorimo
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customs and taboos and laws
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običaje i tabue i zakone
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that will constrain us
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koji će nas sprečiti
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from acting upon our impulses
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da postupamo po našim impulsima
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when, as rational beings, we feel
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kada, kao racionalna bića, osećamo
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we should be constrained.
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da bi trebalo da budemo zauzdani.
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This is what a constitution is.
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To je ono što je ustav.
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A constitution is something which was set up in the past
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Ustav je nešto što je postavljeno u prošlosti
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that applies now in the present,
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i važi za sadašnjost,
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and what it says is,
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i ono što on kaže jeste,
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no matter how much we might to reelect
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bez obzira koliko bismo mogli da ponovo biramo
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a popular president for a third term,
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popularnog predsednika za treći mandat,
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no matter how much white Americans might choose
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bez obzira na to koliko beli Amerikanci mogu birati
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to feel that they want to reinstate the institution of slavery, we can't.
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da misle da žele da obnove instituciju ropstva, ne možemo.
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We have bound ourselves.
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Obavezali smo se.
15:03
And we bind ourselves in other ways as well.
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Mi se takođe obavezujemo i na druge načine.
15:06
We know that when it comes to choosing somebody
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Znamo da kada treba odabrati nekog
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for a job, for an award,
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za posao, za nagradu,
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we are strongly biased by their race,
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mi smo snažno pristrasni u odnosu na njihovu rasu,
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we are biased by their gender,
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pristrasni smo u odnosu na njihov pol,
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we are biased by how attractive they are,
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u odnosu na to koliko su privlačni,
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and sometimes we might say, "Well fine, that's the way it should be."
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i nekad možemo reći: "Pa dobro, tako treba da bude."
15:21
But other times we say, "This is wrong."
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Ali drugi put kažemo: "Ovo je pogrešno."
15:24
And so to combat this,
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A da bismo se izborili sa ovim,
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we don't just try harder,
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ne samo da se više trudimo,
15:28
but rather what we do is we set up situations
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već umesto toga postavljamo situacije
15:31
where these other sources of information can't bias us,
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gde ovi drugi izvori informacija ne mogu da nas učine pristrasnim,
15:34
which is why many orchestras
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zbog čega mnogi orkestri
15:35
audition musicians behind screens,
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slušaju muzičare na audiciji iza paravana,
15:38
so the only information they have
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tako da imaju jedino
15:39
is the information they believe should matter.
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informacije za koje veruju da treba da budu značajne.
15:42
I think prejudice and bias
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Smatram da predrasude i pristrasnosti
15:44
illustrate a fundamental duality of human nature.
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ilustruju fundamentalnu dvojnost ljudske prirode.
15:47
We have gut feelings, instincts, emotions,
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Imamo intuiciju, instinkte, emocije,
15:51
and they affect our judgments and our actions
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i oni utiču na naše rasuđivanje i naše radnje
15:53
for good and for evil,
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na dobar i loš način,
15:55
but we are also capable of rational deliberation
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ali smo takođe sposobni za racionalno promišljanje
15:59
and intelligent planning,
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i inteligentno planiranje,
16:01
and we can use these to, in some cases,
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i možemo ih koristiti da, u nekim slučajevima,
16:03
accelerate and nourish our emotions,
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pokrenemo i negujemo naše emocije,
16:05
and in other cases staunch them.
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a u drugim slučajevima, da ih zaustavimo.
16:08
And it's in this way
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I na ovaj način
16:09
that reason helps us create a better world.
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nam razum pomaže da stvorimo bolji svet.
16:12
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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