Paul Bloom: Can prejudice ever be a good thing?

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When we think about prejudice and bias,
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在思考成見與偏見時,
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we tend to think about stupid and evil people
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我們常會想到愚人和壞人
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doing stupid and evil things.
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在做蠢事和壞事。
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And this idea is nicely summarized
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這個想法正好等同
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by the British critic William Hazlitt,
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英國評論家威廉.哈茲列特
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who wrote, "Prejudice is the child of ignorance."
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所述:「偏見是無知的產物。」
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I want to try to convince you here
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我想試著在此說服各位
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that this is mistaken.
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這個說法錯了。
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I want to try to convince you
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我想試著說服各位
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that prejudice and bias
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成見與偏見很正常,
00:34
are natural, they're often rational,
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通常也很理性,
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and they're often even moral,
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甚至往往合乎道德,
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and I think that once we understand this,
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我認為只要我們理解這點,
00:41
we're in a better position to make sense of them
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就更容易了解偏見,
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when they go wrong,
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一旦偏見出錯,
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when they have horrible consequences,
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或偏見帶來恐怖後果時,
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and we're in a better position to know what to do
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我們就能更了解該怎麼做。
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when this happens.
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00:51
So, start with stereotypes. You look at me,
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從刻板印象開始談起。
你看著我,知道我的名字和一些背景,
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you know my name, you know certain facts about me,
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00:56
and you could make certain judgments.
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接著就能做出某些判斷。
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You could make guesses about my ethnicity,
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你可能會猜測我的種族、
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my political affiliation, my religious beliefs.
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政黨,以及宗教信仰。
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And the thing is, these judgments tend to be accurate.
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而且這些評斷通常都正確。
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We're very good at this sort of thing.
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我們很擅長這種事。
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And we're very good at this sort of thing
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我們很擅於這種事
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because our ability to stereotype people
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是因為將人分類的能力
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is not some sort of arbitrary quirk of the mind,
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不是什麼心血來潮的事,
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but rather it's a specific instance
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而是經過自然形成的真實案例,
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of a more general process,
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01:20
which is that we have experience
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那就是我們在世上經歷的人事物
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with things and people in the world
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01:23
that fall into categories,
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都會被歸類,
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and we can use our experience to make generalizations
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我們能依據自己的經驗
分類各種新奇事物。
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about novel instances of these categories.
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01:29
So everybody here has a lot of experience
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在座各位都有許多經驗
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with chairs and apples and dogs,
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和椅子、蘋果、小狗有關,
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and based on this, you could see
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而根據這點,
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unfamiliar examples and you could guess,
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在你看到許多陌生案例時就能推測,
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you could sit on the chair,
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你能坐上椅子,
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you could eat the apple, the dog will bark.
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可以吃那顆蘋果,那隻狗會吠。
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Now we might be wrong.
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但我們也許錯了。
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The chair could collapse if you sit on it,
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你如果坐上椅子,它可能就會垮。
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the apple might be poison, the dog might not bark,
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蘋果也許有毒,狗也許不會叫,
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and in fact, this is my dog Tessie, who doesn't bark.
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事實上,這是我的狗泰希,牠不會叫。
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But for the most part, we're good at this.
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但大多數的情況下,我們擅於此事。
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For the most part, we make good guesses
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通常我們都能猜得八九不離十,
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both in the social domain and the non-social domain,
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無論是社交或非社交領域,
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and if we weren't able to do so,
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如果我們不太會猜,
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if we weren't able to make guesses about new instances that we encounter,
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如果我們不能猜出碰到的新事件,
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we wouldn't survive.
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我們就無法生存。
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And in fact, Hazlitt later on in his wonderful essay
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事實上,赫茲利特後來在他的絕佳論文中
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concedes this.
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承認了這點。
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He writes, "Without the aid of prejudice and custom,
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他說:「沒有成見和慣例輔助,
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I should not be able to find my way my across the room;
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我就找不到穿越房間的路徑;
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nor know how to conduct myself in any circumstances,
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不知道該如何融入各種環境,
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nor what to feel in any relation of life."
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以及如何感受生命中的各種關係。」
02:19
Or take bias.
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以偏見來說,
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Now sometimes, we break the world up into
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有時候我們會把世界劃分為你我對立,
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us versus them, into in-group versus out-group,
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劃分成內團體和外團體,
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and sometimes when we do this,
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偶爾我們這麼做的時候,
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we know we're doing something wrong,
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會自知犯了點錯,
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and we're kind of ashamed of it.
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而覺得有點難為情。
02:30
But other times we're proud of it.
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但有時候我們卻引以為傲。
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We openly acknowledge it.
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我們勇於承認。
02:33
And my favorite example of this
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我最愛的例子
02:34
is a question that came from the audience
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是觀眾提出的問題,
02:37
in a Republican debate prior to the last election.
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場合是共和黨上次選舉前的辯論大會。
02:39
(Video) Anderson Cooper: Gets to your question,
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(影片)安德森.庫珀:下一個問題,
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the question in the hall, on foreign aid? Yes, ma'am.
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來自在場觀眾詢問對外援助,請說。
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Woman: The American people are suffering
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女士:美國人當前在國內受苦,
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in our country right now.
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02:51
Why do we continue to send foreign aid
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為什麼我們不斷對外援助,
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to other countries
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協助其它國家?
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when we need all the help we can get for ourselves?
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我們自己也需要幫助啊!
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AC: Governor Perry, what about that?
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安德森:佩里州長,你怎麼看?
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(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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Rick Perry: Absolutely, I think it's—
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里克.佩里:當然,我認為那…
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Paul Bloom: Each of the people onstage
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保羅:每一位在台上的候選人
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agreed with the premise of her question,
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都同意她的前提,
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which is as Americans, we should care more
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那就是身為美國人,
我們應該更關心本國人,而非外國人。
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about Americans than about other people.
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03:13
And in fact, in general, people are often swayed
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事實上,大家常被感覺支配,
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by feelings of solidarity, loyalty, pride, patriotism,
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像是團結、忠誠、自尊、愛國心,
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towards their country or towards their ethnic group.
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這類對所屬國家或種族的情感。
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Regardless of your politics, many people feel proud to be American,
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不論你的黨派為何, 許多人都以身為美國人為榮,
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and they favor Americans over other countries.
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他們偏愛美國人勝於其它國家。
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Residents of other countries feel the same about their nation,
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其它國家的居民對自己國家 有同樣的感覺,
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and we feel the same about our ethnicities.
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我們對種族淵源也有同樣感受。
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Now some of you may reject this.
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在座有些人可能會不認同。
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Some of you may be so cosmopolitan
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有些人可能四海為家,
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that you think that ethnicity and nationality
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因此認為種族和國籍
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should hold no moral sway.
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不應該有道德羈絆。
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But even you sophisticates accept
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但是即使你硬要說
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that there should be some pull
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應該有某種影響力
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towards the in-group in the domain of friends and family,
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存在你和親友、熟人之間的內團體之中,
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of people you're close to,
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03:49
and so even you make a distinction
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你也在我們和他們之間做了區隔。
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between us versus them.
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03:52
Now, this distinction is natural enough
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這種區隔十分自然,
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and often moral enough, but it can go awry,
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通常也很合乎道德觀,但卻可能走樣,
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and this was part of the research
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這就是偉大心理學家亨利.泰弗爾
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of the great social psychologist Henri Tajfel.
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研究的一部分。
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Tajfel was born in Poland in 1919.
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泰弗爾在 1919 年生於波蘭,
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He left to go to university in France,
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他為了唸大學前往法國,
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because as a Jew, he couldn't go to university in Poland,
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因為身為猶太人,他不能在波蘭唸大學,
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and then he enlisted in the French military
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後來他加入法國軍隊,
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in World War II.
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參與第二次世界大戰。
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He was captured and ended up
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他被逮捕,
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in a prisoner of war camp,
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被關進戰俘營,
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and it was a terrifying time for him,
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對他來說那是段恐怖時期,
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because if it was discovered that he was a Jew,
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因為如果有人發現他是猶太人,
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he could have been moved to a concentration camp,
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他就可能會被送進集中營,
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where he most likely would not have survived.
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很可能會在裡頭喪命。
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And in fact, when the war ended and he was released,
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其實戰爭結束後,他重獲自由,
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most of his friends and family were dead.
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大部分的親友都死了。
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He got involved in different pursuits.
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他開始參與各種活動,
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He helped out the war orphans.
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並協助戰時遺孤脫困。
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But he had a long-lasting interest
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但他一直很有興趣
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in the science of prejudice,
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專研偏見科學,
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and so when a prestigious British scholarship
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因此當一份針對刻板印象的 知名英國獎學金開放申請時,
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on stereotypes opened up, he applied for it,
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04:41
and he won it,
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他提出申請後獲選,
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and then he began this amazing career.
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就開啟了這美好的職業生涯。
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And what started his career is an insight
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讓他展開這份職業的原因是
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that the way most people were thinking
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他頓悟到大多數人理解的
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about the Holocaust was wrong.
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猶太人大屠殺並不正確。
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Many people, most people at the time,
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那時候大多數人
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viewed the Holocaust as sort of representing
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認為猶太人大屠殺
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some tragic flaw on the part of the Germans,
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象徵德國人的某種悲慘缺陷,
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some genetic taint, some authoritarian personality.
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基因汙點與獨裁人格。
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And Tajfel rejected this.
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泰弗爾反駁這點。
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Tajfel said what we see in the Holocaust
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他說我們在猶太人大屠殺中見到的
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is just an exaggeration
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只是種正常心理歷程的誇大版,
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of normal psychological processes
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that exist in every one of us.
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我們每個人都會有。
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And to explore this, he did a series of classic studies
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為了深入探索, 他做了一系列經典研究,
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with British adolescents.
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針對英國青少年。
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And in one of his studies, what he did was he asked
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在一份研究中,
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the British adolescents all sorts of questions,
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他問英國青少年各種問題,
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and then based on their answers, he said,
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然後根據他們的答案說:
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"I've looked at your answers, and based on the answers,
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「我看了你們的答案,根據你的答案,
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I have determined that you are either" —
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我認定你要嘛不是…」
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he told half of them —
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他告訴一半的人說:
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"a Kandinsky lover, you love the work of Kandinsky,
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「你是康丁斯基的粉絲, 超愛康丁斯基的作品,
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or a Klee lover, you love the work of Klee."
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不然你就是克利的粉絲, 超愛他的作品。」
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It was entirely bogus.
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其實這根本就是場騙局。
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Their answers had nothing to do with Kandinsky or Klee.
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他們的答案和康丁斯基或克利毫無關係,
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They probably hadn't heard of the artists.
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說不定連這兩位藝術家的名字也沒聽過。
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He just arbitrarily divided them up.
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他只是任意將他們分類。
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But what he found was, these categories mattered,
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但他發現,這樣的分類有意義,
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so when he later gave the subjects money,
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因此當他之後給受試者酬勞,
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they would prefer to give the money
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他們會比較想把錢給和自己同類的人,
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to members of their own group
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than members of the other group.
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不想給和自己不同類的人。
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Worse, they were actually most interested
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更糟的是,他們其實特別喜歡
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in establishing a difference
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突顯團體之間的差異。
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between their group and other groups,
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so they would give up money for their own group
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他們寧願把錢都給自己的團,
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if by doing so they could give the other group even less.
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只為了少給別團一點錢。
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This bias seems to show up very early.
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這種偏見似乎在年幼時就會出現。
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So my colleague and wife, Karen Wynn, at Yale
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我的妻子兼耶魯的同事凱倫.韋恩
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has done a series of studies with babies
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對嬰兒做了一系列研究,
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where she exposes babies to puppets,
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她讓嬰兒接觸玩偶,
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and the puppets have certain food preferences.
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而每個玩偶都偏好某種食物。
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So one of the puppets might like green beans.
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可能某個玩偶喜歡四季豆,
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The other puppet might like graham crackers.
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另一個玩偶則喜歡全麥餅乾。
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They test the babies own food preferences,
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他們測試嬰兒的食物喜好,
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and babies typically prefer the graham crackers.
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嬰兒基本上都比較喜歡全麥餅乾。
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But the question is, does this matter to babies
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但問題是,這會影響嬰兒 對待玩偶的方式嗎?
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in how they treat the puppets? And it matters a lot.
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答案是大有關聯。
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They tend to prefer the puppet
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他們較喜歡的是
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who has the same food tastes that they have,
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和自己有同樣口味的玩偶,
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and worse, they actually prefer puppets
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更糟的是,他們真的比較樂見
同口味的玩偶處罰不同口味的玩偶。
06:44
who punish the puppet with the different food taste.
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06:47
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
06:49
We see this sort of in-group, out-group psychology all the time.
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我們無時無刻會看到 這種內、外團體的心態。
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We see it in political clashes
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我們會看到意識型態不同的 團體間有政治衝突。
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within groups with different ideologies.
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We see it in its extreme in cases of war,
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我們在戰爭中看到極端的例子,
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where the out-group isn't merely given less,
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外團體不只是得到較少好處,
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but dehumanized,
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還會被眨得連人都不如,
07:05
as in the Nazi perspective of Jews
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就像納粹人眼中的猶太人是害蟲、蝨子,
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as vermin or lice,
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or the American perspective of Japanese as rats.
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或美國人眼中的日本人是卑鄙的老鼠。
07:14
Stereotypes can also go awry.
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刻板印象也可能出差錯。
07:16
So often they're rational and useful,
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通常刻板印象很理性和有用,
07:18
but sometimes they're irrational,
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但有時卻不合理,
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they give the wrong answers,
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會提供錯誤答案,
07:21
and other times
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而某些時候
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they lead to plainly immoral consequences.
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則會引起違反道德的結果。
07:24
And the case that's been most studied
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最常被研究的例子是種族。
07:27
is the case of race.
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07:29
There was a fascinating study
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在 2008 年大選前有項很吸引人的研究,
07:30
prior to the 2008 election
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where social psychologists looked at the extent
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社會心理學家檢視
07:35
to which the candidates were associated with America,
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每一位候選人和美國的相關程度,
07:39
as in an unconscious association with the American flag.
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如同對美國國旗的無意識聯想。
07:43
And in one of their studies they compared
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其中一項研究比較了歐巴馬和麥肯,
07:44
Obama and McCain, and they found McCain
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他們發現大家認為 麥肯比歐巴馬更像美國人,
07:46
is thought of as more American than Obama,
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07:49
and to some extent, people aren't that surprised by hearing that.
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而且大家聽到這件事也不太驚訝。
07:52
McCain is a celebrated war hero,
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麥肯被封為戰時英雄,
07:54
and many people would explicitly say
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很多人會直說
07:55
he has more of an American story than Obama.
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他的故事比歐巴馬更符合美國形象。
07:58
But they also compared Obama
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但他們也拿歐巴馬
08:00
to British Prime Minister Tony Blair,
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和英國首相東尼.布萊爾比較,
08:03
and they found that Blair was also thought of
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結果發現大家也認為
08:05
as more American than Obama,
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布萊爾比歐巴馬還像美國人,
08:07
even though subjects explicitly understood
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即使題目已經明白指出
08:09
that he's not American at all.
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他根本不是美國人。
08:12
But they were responding, of course,
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但是想當然爾,他們都說
08:14
to the color of his skin.
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問題出在他的膚色。
08:17
These stereotypes and biases
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這些刻板印象和偏見
08:19
have real-world consequences,
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都會影響現實生活,
08:20
both subtle and very important.
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無論事情是輕或重。
08:23
In one recent study, researchers
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最近一份報告中,
08:26
put ads on eBay for the sale of baseball cards.
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研究員在拍賣網 eBay 刊登賣棒球卡的廣告。
08:29
Some of them were held by white hands,
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有些是白人的手持卡,
08:32
others by black hands.
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有些則是黑人持卡。
08:33
They were the same baseball cards.
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這些都是一樣的棒球卡。
08:35
The ones held by black hands
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某些黑人拿的卡
08:36
got substantially smaller bids
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競標價格遠低於
08:38
than the ones held by white hands.
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白人拿的卡。
08:41
In research done at Stanford,
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有份史丹佛的報告指出,
08:43
psychologists explored the case of people
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心理學家探究
白人被判謀殺罪的案件。
08:47
sentenced for the murder of a white person.
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結果出爐,在所有條件相同的情況下,
08:51
It turns out, holding everything else constant,
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08:53
you are considerably more likely to be executed
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你極有可能被判死刑,
08:56
if you look like the man on the right
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如果你長得較像右邊這位,
08:58
than the man on the left,
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機率高於左邊這位,
09:00
and this is in large part because
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主要是因為
09:02
the man on the right looks more prototypically black,
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右邊這位看來像典型黑人,
09:04
more prototypically African-American,
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較像非裔美國人,
09:07
and this apparently influences people's decisions
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影響人們決定的顯然是這點,
09:09
over what to do about him.
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而非他做了什麼事。
09:11
So now that we know about this,
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但知道了這件事,
09:12
how do we combat it?
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我們能如何抵抗?
09:14
And there are different avenues.
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有幾種方法。
09:15
One avenue is to appeal
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其一是訴諸大眾的情感反應,
09:17
to people's emotional responses,
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09:19
to appeal to people's empathy,
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訴諸大眾的同理心,
09:21
and we often do that through stories.
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我們通常透過故事來呈現。
09:23
So if you are a liberal parent
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如果你是開明的家長,
09:25
and you want to encourage your children
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你想鼓勵孩子
09:27
to believe in the merits of nontraditional families,
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相信非傳統家庭的價值,
09:30
you might give them a book like this. ["Heather Has Two Mommies"]
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你可能會給他這類的書。 【海瑟有兩個媽咪】
09:32
If you are conservative and have a different attitude,
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如果你很保守,有不同的看法,
09:34
you might give them a book like this.
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你可能會給孩子這本書。
09:36
(Laughter) ["Help! Mom! There Are Liberals under My Bed!"]
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(笑聲) 【媽呀!我床下有自由黨人!】
09:37
But in general, stories can turn
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但一般來說,
故事能夠將無名人士變得舉足輕重,
09:41
anonymous strangers into people who matter,
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09:43
and the idea that we care about people
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我們會在乎、看重某些人
09:46
when we focus on them as individuals
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09:47
is an idea which has shown up across history.
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是因為他們在史上留名。
09:50
So Stalin apocryphally said,
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因此傳說史達林提過:
09:52
"A single death is a tragedy,
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「一個人喪命是悲劇,
09:54
a million deaths is a statistic,"
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一百萬人喪命則是統計數字。」
09:56
and Mother Teresa said,
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泰瑞莎修女曾說:
09:57
"If I look at the mass, I will never act.
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「如果放眼天下,我永遠不會行動。
09:59
If I look at the one, I will."
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如果關注個人,我就會起身而行。」
10:01
Psychologists have explored this.
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心理學家已探究此事。
10:03
For instance, in one study,
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例如,某項研究中,
10:05
people were given a list of facts about a crisis,
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受試者被告知危機事件的細節,
10:07
and it was seen how much they would donate
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看大家願意捐多少錢
10:12
to solve this crisis,
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來解決這項危機。
10:13
and another group was given no facts at all
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而另一組人則不會知道任何細節,
10:15
but they were told of an individual
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但他們會得知
受害者的姓名和長相,
10:17
and given a name and given a face,
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10:20
and it turns out that they gave far more.
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結果是這組人會捐得較多。
10:23
None of this I think is a secret
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對慈善團體來說,這不是秘密。
10:25
to the people who are engaged in charity work.
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10:27
People don't tend to deluge people
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他們比較不會塞一堆 資料和統計數字給大眾,
10:29
with facts and statistics.
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10:31
Rather, you show them faces,
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而是讓他們看見臉龐和真人。
10:32
you show them people.
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10:33
It's possible that by extending our sympathies
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透過延伸對他人的同情心就有機會
10:37
to an individual, they can spread
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將愛心傳到受助者所屬的團體中。
10:39
to the group that the individual belongs to.
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10:42
This is Harriet Beecher Stowe.
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這位是哈里特.比徹.斯托。
10:44
The story, perhaps apocryphal,
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有個傳說是
10:46
is that President Lincoln invited her
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林肯總統在內戰期間邀請她進白宮,
10:49
to the White House in the middle of the Civil War
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10:51
and said to her,
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總統對她說:
10:52
"So you're the little lady who started this great war."
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「你就是那位開啟這場大戰的小姐。」
10:55
And he was talking about "Uncle Tom's Cabin."
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他指的是《湯姆叔叔的小屋》。
10:57
"Uncle Tom's Cabin" is not a great book of philosophy
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這故事不是什麼人生大道理
10:59
or of theology or perhaps not even literature,
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或神學故事,甚至稱不上文學,
11:02
but it does a great job
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但這本書卻成功
11:05
of getting people to put themselves in the shoes
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讓大眾對他們原本不懂的人感同身受,
11:07
of people they wouldn't otherwise be in the shoes of,
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11:10
put themselves in the shoes of slaves.
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讓他們理解奴隸。
11:12
And that could well have been a catalyst
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成功促成了重大的社會變遷。
11:14
for great social change.
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11:15
More recently, looking at America
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看看最近數十年的美國,
11:18
in the last several decades,
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11:21
there's some reason to believe that shows like "The Cosby Show"
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有證據顯示, 像《天才老爹》這種節目
11:24
radically changed American attitudes towards African-Americans,
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徹底改變美國人對非裔美國人的態度,
11:27
while shows like "Will and Grace" and "Modern Family"
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而像《威爾與格蕾絲》 和《摩登家庭》這類的節目
11:30
changed American attitudes
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則改變了美國人
11:31
towards gay men and women.
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對男同志與女性的態度。
11:32
I don't think it's an exaggeration to say
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若說美國的道德觀念變遷
11:35
that the major catalyst in America for moral change
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歸功於情境喜劇
11:38
has been a situation comedy.
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一點也不誇張。
11:40
But it's not all emotions,
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但並不全和情感有關,
11:42
and I want to end by appealing
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最後,我想談訴諸理智的力量。
11:43
to the power of reason.
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11:45
At some point in his wonderful book
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在一本好書
11:47
"The Better Angels of Our Nature,"
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《人性中的善良天使》中
11:49
Steven Pinker says,
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史迪芬.平克提到,
11:51
the Old Testament says love thy neighbor,
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《舊約聖經》說愛鄰舍如同自己,
11:53
and the New Testament says love thy enemy,
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《新約聖經》說愛敵人如同自己,
11:56
but I don't love either one of them, not really,
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但我兩者都不愛,也不是這麼說,
11:59
but I don't want to kill them.
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至少我不會想殺他們。
12:00
I know I have obligations to them,
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我自知對他們有責任,
12:02
but my moral feelings to them, my moral beliefs
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但我對他們的道德情感
與我應該怎麼對待他們的道德信念,
12:06
about how I should behave towards them,
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12:07
aren't grounded in love.
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並非基於愛。
12:09
What they're grounded in is the understanding of human rights,
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而是因為我了解人權,
12:11
a belief that their life is as valuable to them
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相信對他們而言,生命有價值,
12:14
as my life is to me,
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如同我的生命也有價值,
12:16
and to support this, he tells a story
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為了支持這個論點,
12:18
by the great philosopher Adam Smith,
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他提到亞當.斯密說的故事,
12:20
and I want to tell this story too,
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我也想分享這個故事,
12:21
though I'm going to modify it a little bit
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不過我會稍微修改成現代版本。
12:23
for modern times.
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12:24
So Adam Smith starts by asking you to imagine
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亞當.斯密請你想像
12:26
the death of thousands of people,
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有數千人死亡,
12:28
and imagine that the thousands of people
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並想像這數千人
12:30
are in a country you are not familiar with.
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在你不熟悉的國度,
12:33
It could be China or India or a country in Africa.
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可能是中國、印度, 或是非洲的某個國家。
12:36
And Smith says, how would you respond?
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斯密問,你會有什麼反應?
12:39
And you would say, well that's too bad,
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你可能會說,好慘啊,
12:41
and you'd go on to the rest of your life.
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接著就繼續過生活。
12:43
If you were to open up The New York Times online or something,
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如果你上網看紐約時報之類的網站,
12:45
and discover this, and in fact this happens to us all the time,
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會發現這種故事其實常發生,
12:48
we go about our lives.
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我們還是繼續過生活。
12:49
But imagine instead, Smith says,
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但斯密請你再想像
12:52
you were to learn that tomorrow
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自己的小指頭明天會被切斷,
12:53
you were to have your little finger chopped off.
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12:55
Smith says, that would matter a lot.
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他說這樣你就會很在意了。
12:58
You would not sleep that night
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你大概會一夜無眠,
12:59
wondering about that.
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只想著那件事。
13:00
So this raises the question:
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隨之而來的問題是:
13:02
Would you sacrifice thousands of lives
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你會願意犧牲上千條人命
13:05
to save your little finger?
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來拯救自己的小指頭嗎?
13:07
Now answer this in the privacy of your own head,
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自己在腦袋裡回答這個問題,
13:09
but Smith says, absolutely not,
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但斯密說,當然不願意,
13:12
what a horrid thought.
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那種想法太恐怖了。
13:14
And so this raises the question,
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因此針對那個問題
13:16
and so, as Smith puts it,
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斯密歸納:
13:17
"When our passive feelings are almost always
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「當我們的被動想法總是
13:19
so sordid and so selfish,
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極度可悲與自私時,
13:21
how comes it that our active principles
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我們的主動原則怎能
13:22
should often be so generous and so noble?"
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時常表現得如此大方又高貴呢?」
13:25
And Smith's answer is, "It is reason,
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而斯密回應:
「是因為理性、原則和意識
13:27
principle, conscience.
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13:29
[This] calls to us,
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召喚我們,
13:30
with a voice capable of astonishing the most presumptuous of our passions,
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用駭人口吻對非常冒失的自己說,
13:34
that we are but one of the multitude,
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不過是芸芸眾生的我們,
13:35
in no respect better than any other in it."
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可不比任何人還高尚。」
13:38
And this last part is what is often described
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最後一部分常被稱為
13:40
as the principle of impartiality.
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公平原則。
13:43
And this principle of impartiality manifests itself
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公平原則在世上所有的宗教中
13:46
in all of the world's religions,
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13:47
in all of the different versions of the golden rule,
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以各種不同版本的黃金法則顯現,
13:50
and in all of the world's moral philosophies,
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也在世上所有的道德哲學中
13:52
which differ in many ways
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以各種方式呈現,
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but share the presupposition that we should judge morality
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但卻都有同樣的前提,
13:56
from sort of an impartial point of view.
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即我們應該公正無私地衡量道德。
13:59
The best articulation of this view
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這種觀點的最佳說法
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is actually, for me, it's not from a theologian or from a philosopher,
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對我來說其實不是 以神學家或哲學家的身分,
14:04
but from Humphrey Bogart
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而是以一種亨弗萊.鮑嘉
14:06
at the end of "Casablanca."
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在《北非諜影》中的說法。
14:07
So, spoiler alert, he's telling his lover
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注意我要爆雷了,
他告訴情人,為了大家好, 我們還是分手吧。
14:11
that they have to separate
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for the more general good,
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14:14
and he says to her, and I won't do the accent,
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我不會模仿他的腔調,他對她說:
14:16
but he says to her, "It doesn't take much to see
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「三個小人物的問題
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that the problems of three little people
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don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world."
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在這瘋狂世界裡根本微不足道。」
14:22
Our reason could cause us to override our passions.
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我們的理智可能會讓自己無視熱情。
14:25
Our reason could motivate us
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我們的理智可能會促使自己
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to extend our empathy,
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變得更有同理心,
14:28
could motivate us to write a book like "Uncle Tom's Cabin,"
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可能激勵我們寫本 《湯姆叔叔的小屋》之類的書,
14:30
or read a book like "Uncle Tom's Cabin,"
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或是讀本那樣的書,
14:32
and our reason can motivate us to create
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我們的理智可能激勵大家
建立習俗、戒律或法令,
14:35
customs and taboos and laws
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14:37
that will constrain us
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限制自己不會衝動行事,
14:39
from acting upon our impulses
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14:40
when, as rational beings, we feel
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身為理智的人類,
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we should be constrained.
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我們自認應該受限。
14:43
This is what a constitution is.
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憲法即是如此。
14:45
A constitution is something which was set up in the past
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憲法是過去建立,
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that applies now in the present,
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並在當代運用,
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and what it says is,
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憲法明訂
14:51
no matter how much we might to reelect
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無論我們多想再次投票給 大受歡迎的總統,
14:53
a popular president for a third term,
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讓他做第三任,
14:55
no matter how much white Americans might choose
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不管美國白人多麼想
14:57
to feel that they want to reinstate the institution of slavery, we can't.
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恢復奴隸制度,我們都無能為力。
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We have bound ourselves.
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我們已限制自己。
15:03
And we bind ourselves in other ways as well.
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我們也在其它方面限制自己。
15:06
We know that when it comes to choosing somebody
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我們知道在談到要選擇某人
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for a job, for an award,
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任職、獲獎時,
15:11
we are strongly biased by their race,
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我們會輕易因他們的種族而有偏見,
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we are biased by their gender,
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因他們的性別而有偏見,
15:17
we are biased by how attractive they are,
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因他們的外貌而有偏見,
15:19
and sometimes we might say, "Well fine, that's the way it should be."
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有時我們會說: 「好吧,事情就該是這樣。」
15:21
But other times we say, "This is wrong."
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但有時候我們會說:「那錯了。」
15:24
And so to combat this,
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為了抵抗這件事,
15:26
we don't just try harder,
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我們不只是要更努力,
15:28
but rather what we do is we set up situations
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而是要開創某些情境,
15:31
where these other sources of information can't bias us,
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如此其它訊息來源就不會誤導我們,
15:34
which is why many orchestras
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這也是為何許多管弦樂隊
15:35
audition musicians behind screens,
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甄選樂手時要在幕後,
15:38
so the only information they have
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這樣他們接收到的 就只會是重要的訊息。
15:39
is the information they believe should matter.
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15:42
I think prejudice and bias
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我認為成見與偏見
15:44
illustrate a fundamental duality of human nature.
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闡明了人性根本的二元論。
15:47
We have gut feelings, instincts, emotions,
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我們有直覺、本能、情感,
15:51
and they affect our judgments and our actions
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而這些感受都會影響我們的評斷與行動,
15:53
for good and for evil,
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不論那是好是壞,
15:55
but we are also capable of rational deliberation
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但我們也都有理性深思熟慮的能力,
15:59
and intelligent planning,
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聰明規畫的能力,
16:01
and we can use these to, in some cases,
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在某些情況下,我們能以此
16:03
accelerate and nourish our emotions,
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刺激與培養我們的情緒,
16:05
and in other cases staunch them.
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在其它情況下則阻止情緒爆發。
16:08
And it's in this way
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也因此,理智幫助我們 建立更美好的世界。
16:09
that reason helps us create a better world.
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16:12
Thank you.
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謝謝。
16:14
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