Paul Bloom: Can prejudice ever be a good thing?

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Prevoditelj: Anja Kolobarić Recezent: Ivan Stamenković
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When we think about prejudice and bias,
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Kad razmišljamo o predrasudama i pristranostima,
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we tend to think about stupid and evil people
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obično nam na pamet padnu glupi, zli ljudi
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doing stupid and evil things.
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koji rade glupe i zlonamjerne stvari.
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And this idea is nicely summarized
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Ovu je ideju lijepo sažeo
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by the British critic William Hazlitt,
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britanski kritičar William Hazlitt
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who wrote, "Prejudice is the child of ignorance."
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koji je napisao: "Predrasuda je plod neznanja."
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I want to try to convince you here
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Ja vas želim uvjeriti da je ova ideja
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that this is mistaken.
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pogrešna.
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I want to try to convince you
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Želim vas uvjeriti da su
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that prejudice and bias
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predrasude i pristranosti
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are natural, they're often rational,
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prirodne, često racionalne,
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and they're often even moral,
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pa čak i moralne.
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and I think that once we understand this,
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Kad to jednom shvatimo,
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we're in a better position to make sense of them
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bolje ćemo ih razumjeti
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when they go wrong,
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kada pođu krivo,
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when they have horrible consequences,
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kada počnu imati užasne posljedice
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and we're in a better position to know what to do
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i znat ćemo se bolje snaći
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when this happens.
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kada se to dogodi.
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So, start with stereotypes. You look at me,
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Krenimo sa stereotipima. Pogledate me,
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you know my name, you know certain facts about me,
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znate mi ime, znate određene stvari o meni
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and you could make certain judgments.
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i možete donositi određene zaključke.
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You could make guesses about my ethnicity,
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Možete nagađati moju etničku pripadnost,
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my political affiliation, my religious beliefs.
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političku opredijeljenost, vjerska uvjerenja.
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And the thing is, these judgments tend to be accurate.
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Ovi su zaključci često i ispravni.
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We're very good at this sort of thing.
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Dobri smo u takvim stvarima,
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And we're very good at this sort of thing
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a to je zbog toga što
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because our ability to stereotype people
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naša sposobnost stereotipiziranja ljudi
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is not some sort of arbitrary quirk of the mind,
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nije neki proizvoljni hir uma,
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but rather it's a specific instance
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već specifičan primjer
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of a more general process,
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jednog općenitijeg procesa,
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which is that we have experience
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a to su naša iskustva sa
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with things and people in the world
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stvarima i ljudima u svijetu
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that fall into categories,
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koja spadaju u kategorije
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and we can use our experience to make generalizations
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i svoje iskustvo možemo koristiti za generaliziranje
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about novel instances of these categories.
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o novim primjerima ovih kategorija.
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So everybody here has a lot of experience
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Svi mi imamo puno iskustva
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with chairs and apples and dogs,
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sa stolicama, jabukama i psima
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and based on this, you could see
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i na temelju toga, možete vidjeti
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unfamiliar examples and you could guess,
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nepoznate primjere i možete pretpostavljati,
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you could sit on the chair,
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možete sjesti na stolicu,
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you could eat the apple, the dog will bark.
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jesti jabuku, pas će zalajati.
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Now we might be wrong.
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Mogli bismo biti u krivu.
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The chair could collapse if you sit on it,
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Stolica bi se mogla urušiti pod nama,
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the apple might be poison, the dog might not bark,
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jabuka može biti otrovna, pas ne mora zalajati.
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and in fact, this is my dog Tessie, who doesn't bark.
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U biti, ovo je Tessie, moj pas koji ne laje.
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But for the most part, we're good at this.
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Ali u većini slučajeva ovo nam ide.
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For the most part, we make good guesses
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Uglavnom radimo dobre pretpostavke
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both in the social domain and the non-social domain,
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i na društvenom i na nedruštvenom
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and if we weren't able to do so,
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području, a da nismo u stanju
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if we weren't able to make guesses about new instances that we encounter,
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stvarati pretpostavke o novim primjerima na koje nailazimo,
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we wouldn't survive.
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ne bismo preživjeli.
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And in fact, Hazlitt later on in his wonderful essay
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U biti, Hazlitt se kasnije u svom krasnom eseju
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concedes this.
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složio s ovim.
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He writes, "Without the aid of prejudice and custom,
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Napisao je: "Bez pomoći predrasuda i običaja
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I should not be able to find my way my across the room;
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ne bih se mogao snaći u sobi,
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nor know how to conduct myself in any circumstances,
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niti se znati ponašati u bilo kakvim okolnostima,
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nor what to feel in any relation of life."
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niti znati kako se osjećati u bilo kakvom životnom odnosu.
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Or take bias.
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Promotrimo sad pristranosti.
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Now sometimes, we break the world up into
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Nekada svijet podijelimo na
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us versus them, into in-group versus out-group,
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"nas" i "njih", jedna grupa protiv druge
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and sometimes when we do this,
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i nekada kada to činimo,
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we know we're doing something wrong,
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znamo da radimo nešto krivo i
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and we're kind of ashamed of it.
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sramimo se toga.
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But other times we're proud of it.
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Ali nekada se i ponosimo time.
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We openly acknowledge it.
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Otvoreno to priznajemo.
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And my favorite example of this
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Moj omiljeni primjer ovoga
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is a question that came from the audience
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odnosi se na pitanje iz publike
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in a Republican debate prior to the last election.
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na republikanskoj debati prije prošlih izbora.
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(Video) Anderson Cooper: Gets to your question,
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(Video) Anderson Cooper: Odgovara na pitanja,
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the question in the hall, on foreign aid? Yes, ma'am.
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pitanje u dvorani, za inozemnu pomoć? Da, gospođo?
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Woman: The American people are suffering
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Žena: Amerikanci trenutno pate
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in our country right now.
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u našoj zemlji.
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Why do we continue to send foreign aid
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Zašto uporno šaljemo inozemnu pomoć
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to other countries
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drugim državama
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when we need all the help we can get for ourselves?
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kad i mi sami trebamo svu moguću pomoć?
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AC: Governor Perry, what about that?
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AC: Guverneru Perry, zašto?
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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Rick Perry: Absolutely, I think it's—
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Rick Perry: Apsolutno, mislim da je —
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Paul Bloom: Each of the people onstage
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Paul Bloom: Svatko od ljudi na
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agreed with the premise of her question,
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pozornici složio se s premisom njenog pitanja,
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which is as Americans, we should care more
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a to je da kao Amerikanci trebamo
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about Americans than about other people.
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više brinuti o nama nego o drugima.
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And in fact, in general, people are often swayed
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Općenito, ljude često ponesu
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by feelings of solidarity, loyalty, pride, patriotism,
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osjećaji solidarnosti, vjernosti, ponosa, domoljublja
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towards their country or towards their ethnic group.
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prema vlastitoj zemlji ili etničkoj skupini.
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Regardless of your politics, many people feel proud to be American,
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Bez obzira na vaša politička uvjerenja, mnogi su ponosni što su
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and they favor Americans over other countries.
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Amerikanci i preferiraju Ameriku.
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Residents of other countries feel the same about their nation,
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Stanovnici drugih država isto to misle o svojoj naciji,
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and we feel the same about our ethnicities.
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a ista je stvar i s nacionalnostima.
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Now some of you may reject this.
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Neki od vas se možda ne slažu.
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Some of you may be so cosmopolitan
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Neki su možda toliki kozmopoliti
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that you think that ethnicity and nationality
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da misle da etnička pripadnost i nacionalnost
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should hold no moral sway.
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nemaju utjecaja na moral.
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But even you sophisticates accept
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Ali čak i vi sofisticirani prihvaćate
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that there should be some pull
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da bi trebalo biti nekog povlačenja
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towards the in-group in the domain of friends and family,
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prema vlastitoj grupi u domeni prijatelja i obitelji,
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of people you're close to,
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prema bliskim ljudima,
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and so even you make a distinction
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čak i vi pravite razlike
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between us versus them.
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između vas i njih.
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Now, this distinction is natural enough
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Ova je distinkcija prirodna
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and often moral enough, but it can go awry,
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i često i moralna, ali može poći krivo i
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and this was part of the research
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upravo je to bio dio istraživanja
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of the great social psychologist Henri Tajfel.
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velikog socijalnog psihologa Henrija Tajfela.
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Tajfel was born in Poland in 1919.
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Tajfel je rođen u Poljskoj 1919.
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He left to go to university in France,
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Studirao je u Francuskoj jer mu nije
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because as a Jew, he couldn't go to university in Poland,
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bilo dozvoljeno studirati u Poljskoj jer je bio Židov.
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and then he enlisted in the French military
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Tada se pridružio francuskoj vojsci
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in World War II.
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u Drugom svjetskom ratu.
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He was captured and ended up
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Zarobljen je i završio je
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in a prisoner of war camp,
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kao zatočenik u ratnom kampu i
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and it was a terrifying time for him,
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bilo je to užasno razdoblje za njega
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because if it was discovered that he was a Jew,
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jer da se otkrilo da je Židov,
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he could have been moved to a concentration camp,
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premjestili bi ga u koncentracijski logor,
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where he most likely would not have survived.
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a tamo vrlo vjerojatno ne bi preživio.
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And in fact, when the war ended and he was released,
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Kad je rat završio, a on oslobođen,
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most of his friends and family were dead.
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većina njegovih prijatelja i obitelji bila je mrtva.
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He got involved in different pursuits.
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Uključio se u različite aktivnosti.
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He helped out the war orphans.
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Pomagao je ratnoj siročadi,
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But he had a long-lasting interest
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no imao je trajni interes za
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in the science of prejudice,
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znanost o predrasudama.
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and so when a prestigious British scholarship
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Kad je otvoren natječaj za prestižnu britansku stipendiju
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on stereotypes opened up, he applied for it,
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o stereotipima, prijavio se
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and he won it,
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i dobio ju je,
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and then he began this amazing career.
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i započeo svoju sjajnu karijeru.
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And what started his career is an insight
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Njegovu je karijeru pokrenula spoznaja
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that the way most people were thinking
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da većina ljudi o Holokaustu razmišlja
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about the Holocaust was wrong.
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na pogrešan način.
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Many people, most people at the time,
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Mnogi ljudi, većina njih u to vrijeme,
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viewed the Holocaust as sort of representing
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na Holokaust je gledalo kao na nešto što
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some tragic flaw on the part of the Germans,
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predstavlja tragičnu manu Nijemaca,
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some genetic taint, some authoritarian personality.
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neku genetičku mrlju, neku autoritarnu osobnost.
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And Tajfel rejected this.
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Tajfel je to odbacio.
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Tajfel said what we see in the Holocaust
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Rekao je da on Holokaust vidi kao
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is just an exaggeration
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tek preuveličavanje
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of normal psychological processes
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normalnih psiholoških procesa
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that exist in every one of us.
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koji postoje u svima nama.
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And to explore this, he did a series of classic studies
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Kako bi to istražio, proveo je serije klasičnih studija
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with British adolescents.
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na britanskim adolescentima.
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And in one of his studies, what he did was he asked
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U jednoj od njegovih studija
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the British adolescents all sorts of questions,
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pitao ih je svakvakva pitanja
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and then based on their answers, he said,
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i na osnovu njihovih odgovora, rekao:
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"I've looked at your answers, and based on the answers,
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"Proučio sam tvoje odgovore i na osnovu njih
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I have determined that you are either" —
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utvrdio sam da si ti ili" --
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he told half of them —
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polovici je rekao --
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"a Kandinsky lover, you love the work of Kandinsky,
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"obožavatelj Kandinskyja, voliš njegov rad
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or a Klee lover, you love the work of Klee."
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ili obožavatelj Kleeja i njegovog rada."
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It was entirely bogus.
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Bilo je to posve lažno.
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Their answers had nothing to do with Kandinsky or Klee.
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Njihovi odgovori nisu imali nikakve veze s njima.
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They probably hadn't heard of the artists.
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Vjerojatno nikad nisu ni čuli za njih.
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He just arbitrarily divided them up.
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On ih je samo proizvoljno podijelio.
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But what he found was, these categories mattered,
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No otkrio je da su ove kategorije važne, pa kad je kasnije
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so when he later gave the subjects money,
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ispitanicima davao novac,
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they would prefer to give the money
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radije su davali taj novac
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to members of their own group
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članovima vlastite grupe
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than members of the other group.
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nego članovima one druge.
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Worse, they were actually most interested
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Čak su bili voljni uspostavljati
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in establishing a difference
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razliku
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between their group and other groups,
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između svoje i drugih grupa,
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so they would give up money for their own group
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pa bi odbijali novac za vlastitu grupu
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if by doing so they could give the other group even less.
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ako bi na taj način druga grupa dobila još manje.
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This bias seems to show up very early.
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Ova se pristranost vrlo rano pojavljuje.
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So my colleague and wife, Karen Wynn, at Yale
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Moja kolegica i supruga Karen Wynn na Yaleu
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has done a series of studies with babies
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odradila je serije studija s
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where she exposes babies to puppets,
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bebama gdje ih je izložila igračkama
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and the puppets have certain food preferences.
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koje su imale određene hranidbene preferencije.
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So one of the puppets might like green beans.
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Jedna je možda voljela mahune.
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The other puppet might like graham crackers.
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Druga petit-kekse.
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They test the babies own food preferences,
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Testirali su bebine hranidbene preferencije
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and babies typically prefer the graham crackers.
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i one obično preferiraju petit-kekse.
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But the question is, does this matter to babies
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Pitanje je, ima li to veze s načinom na koji se
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in how they treat the puppets? And it matters a lot.
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bebe odnose prema igračkama? Da, i to velike.
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They tend to prefer the puppet
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Preferirale su igračke
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who has the same food tastes that they have,
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s istim ukusom u hrani,
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and worse, they actually prefer puppets
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pa i gore, preferirale su igračke
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who punish the puppet with the different food taste.
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koje bi kažnjavale one s drugačijim ukusom.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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We see this sort of in-group, out-group psychology all the time.
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Ovu psihologiju pripadnosti i nepripadnosti grupi stalno viđamo.
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We see it in political clashes
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U političkim sukobima
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within groups with different ideologies.
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unutar grupa s različitim ideologijama.
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We see it in its extreme in cases of war,
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U ekstremnim slučajevima ratova u
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where the out-group isn't merely given less,
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kojima se onima koji su izvan grupe ne daje samo manje
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but dehumanized,
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nego ih se i dehumanizira,
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as in the Nazi perspective of Jews
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kao u nacističkom viđenju Židova
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as vermin or lice,
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kao štetočine ili ušiju
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or the American perspective of Japanese as rats.
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ili američko viđenje Japanaca kao štakora.
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Stereotypes can also go awry.
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I stereotipi mogu poći krivo.
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So often they're rational and useful,
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Često su racionalni i korisni,
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but sometimes they're irrational,
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ali nekad su iracionalni,
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they give the wrong answers,
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daju nam krive odgovore,
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and other times
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a nekada
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they lead to plainly immoral consequences.
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jednostavno vode do nemoralnih posljedica.
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And the case that's been most studied
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Po tom pitanju najčešće se proučava
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is the case of race.
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rasa.
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There was a fascinating study
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U fascinantnoj studiji koja
07:30
prior to the 2008 election
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je prethodila izborima 2008.
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where social psychologists looked at the extent
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socijalni psiholozi proučavali su razine
07:35
to which the candidates were associated with America,
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do kojih kandidati asociraju na Ameriku,
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as in an unconscious association with the American flag.
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baš kao što nam to nesvjesno čini američka zastava.
07:43
And in one of their studies they compared
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U jednoj od studija
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Obama and McCain, and they found McCain
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uspoređivali su Obamu i McCaina i otkrili
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is thought of as more American than Obama,
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da McCaina smatraju "američkijim" od Obame
07:49
and to some extent, people aren't that surprised by hearing that.
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i do određene razine, ljude to ne iznenađuje.
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McCain is a celebrated war hero,
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McCain je slavljeni ratni heroj
07:54
and many people would explicitly say
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i mnogi bi izravno rekli
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he has more of an American story than Obama.
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da je njegova priča "američkija" od Obamine.
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But they also compared Obama
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No uspoređivali su Obamu
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to British Prime Minister Tony Blair,
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i s britanskim premijerom Tonyjem Blairom
08:03
and they found that Blair was also thought of
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i otkrili da i Blaira smatraju
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as more American than Obama,
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"američkijim" od Obame,
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even though subjects explicitly understood
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čak i unatoč tome što su ispitanici bili
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that he's not American at all.
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svjesni činjenice da on uopće nije Amerikanac.
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But they were responding, of course,
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Naravno, njihovi su odgovori
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to the color of his skin.
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bili uvjetovani njegovom bojom kože.
08:17
These stereotypes and biases
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Ovi stereotipi i pristranosti
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have real-world consequences,
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imaju posljedice u stvarnom
08:20
both subtle and very important.
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svijetu, i suptilne i važne.
08:23
In one recent study, researchers
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U jednoj novijoj studiji istraživači su
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put ads on eBay for the sale of baseball cards.
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postavili reklame na eBay za prodaju baseball karata.
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Some of them were held by white hands,
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Neke od karata držale su bjelačke ruke,
08:32
others by black hands.
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a druge crnačke.
08:33
They were the same baseball cards.
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Radilo se o istim kartama.
08:35
The ones held by black hands
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One koje su držale crnačke
08:36
got substantially smaller bids
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ruke licitirane su za značajno manje novca
08:38
than the ones held by white hands.
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od onih koje su držale bjelačke ruke.
08:41
In research done at Stanford,
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U istraživanju na Stanfordu
08:43
psychologists explored the case of people
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psiholozi su proučavali slučajeve ljudi
08:47
sentenced for the murder of a white person.
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osuđene za ubojstvo bijelca.
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It turns out, holding everything else constant,
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Ispada da, ukoliko je sve ostalo isto,
08:53
you are considerably more likely to be executed
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prije će vas pogubiti ukoliko izgledate
08:56
if you look like the man on the right
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poput čovjeka na desnoj strani
08:58
than the man on the left,
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nego ovoga na lijevoj.
09:00
and this is in large part because
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Razlog za to je što
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the man on the right looks more prototypically black,
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čovjek na desnoj strani izgleda kao prototipni crnac,
09:04
more prototypically African-American,
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odnosno kao Afroamerikanac,
09:07
and this apparently influences people's decisions
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a to utječe na naše odlučivanje
09:09
over what to do about him.
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o tome što ćemo s njim.
09:11
So now that we know about this,
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Sada kad to znamo,
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how do we combat it?
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kako se boriti s tim?
09:14
And there are different avenues.
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Imamo različite načine.
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One avenue is to appeal
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Jedan od njih nalaže da se
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to people's emotional responses,
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pozivamo na emocionalne reakcije ljudi,
09:19
to appeal to people's empathy,
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na njihovu empatiju,
09:21
and we often do that through stories.
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a to često činimo kroz priče.
09:23
So if you are a liberal parent
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Ukoliko ste liberalan roditelj
09:25
and you want to encourage your children
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i želite da vaša djeca
09:27
to believe in the merits of nontraditional families,
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vjeruju u vrijednosti nekonvencionalnih obitelji,
09:30
you might give them a book like this. ["Heather Has Two Mommies"]
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dat ćete im npr. ovo: ["Heather ima dvije mame".]
09:32
If you are conservative and have a different attitude,
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Ako ste konzervativni i imate
09:34
you might give them a book like this.
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drukčije stavove, dat ćete im ovo:
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(Laughter) ["Help! Mom! There Are Liberals under My Bed!"]
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(Smijeh) ["Upomoć! Liberalci pod krevetom!"]
09:37
But in general, stories can turn
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Uglavnom, priče mogu pretvoriti
09:41
anonymous strangers into people who matter,
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anonimne strance u ljude koji su bitni,
09:43
and the idea that we care about people
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a ideja da marimo za ljude kad se na njih
09:46
when we focus on them as individuals
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usredotočimo kao na pojedince
09:47
is an idea which has shown up across history.
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ideja je koja se dokazala tijekom povijesti.
09:50
So Stalin apocryphally said,
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Staljin je navodno izjavio:
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"A single death is a tragedy,
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„Smrt jednog čovjeka je tragedija,
09:54
a million deaths is a statistic,"
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smrt milijuna je statistika."
09:56
and Mother Teresa said,
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Majka Terezija rekla je
09:57
"If I look at the mass, I will never act.
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"Pogledam li mnoštvo, nikad se neću pokrenuti.
09:59
If I look at the one, I will."
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Pogledam li pojedinca, hoću!"
10:01
Psychologists have explored this.
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Psiholozi su ovo istraživali.
10:03
For instance, in one study,
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Npr., u jednoj studiji
10:05
people were given a list of facts about a crisis,
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ljudima je dan popis činjenica o krizi
10:07
and it was seen how much they would donate
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i pratilo se koliko bi donirali
10:12
to solve this crisis,
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da riješe krizu,
10:13
and another group was given no facts at all
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a drugoj grupi nisu dane nikakve činjenice,
10:15
but they were told of an individual
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već im je ispričana priča o pojedincu,
10:17
and given a name and given a face,
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dano im je ime i lice i
10:20
and it turns out that they gave far more.
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ispada da su oni donirali puno više.
10:23
None of this I think is a secret
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Ne mislim da je ovo tajna
10:25
to the people who are engaged in charity work.
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za ljude uključene u dobrotvorni rad.
10:27
People don't tend to deluge people
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Oni ne zamaraju ljude
10:29
with facts and statistics.
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činjenicama i statistikama.
10:31
Rather, you show them faces,
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Pokazujete im lica,
10:32
you show them people.
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pokazujete im ljude.
10:33
It's possible that by extending our sympathies
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Moguće je da se povećanjem naših simpatija
10:37
to an individual, they can spread
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prema pojedincu, one mogu proširiti
10:39
to the group that the individual belongs to.
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na cijelu grupu kojoj pojedinac pripada.
10:42
This is Harriet Beecher Stowe.
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Ovo je Harriet Beecher Stowe.
10:44
The story, perhaps apocryphal,
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Priča, možda lažna,
10:46
is that President Lincoln invited her
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kaže da ju je predsjednik Lincoln pozvao
10:49
to the White House in the middle of the Civil War
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u Bijelu kuću usred Građanskog rata
10:51
and said to her,
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i rekao joj:
10:52
"So you're the little lady who started this great war."
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"Ti si djevojka koja je započela ovaj ogroman rat."
10:55
And he was talking about "Uncle Tom's Cabin."
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Govorio je o "Čiča Tominoj kolibi."
10:57
"Uncle Tom's Cabin" is not a great book of philosophy
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"Čiča Tomina koliba" nije neka sjajna filozofska
10:59
or of theology or perhaps not even literature,
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ili teološka knjige, a čak ni književna,
11:02
but it does a great job
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ali sjajno omogućava ljudima
11:05
of getting people to put themselves in the shoes
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da se zamisle u koži onih
11:07
of people they wouldn't otherwise be in the shoes of,
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ljudi u čijoj koži ne bi inače bili:
11:10
put themselves in the shoes of slaves.
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u koži robova.
11:12
And that could well have been a catalyst
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To je možda i bio katalizator
11:14
for great social change.
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za veliku društvenu promjenu.
11:15
More recently, looking at America
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Nedavno, gledajući Ameriku
11:18
in the last several decades,
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u zadnjih nekoliko desetljeća,
11:21
there's some reason to believe that shows like "The Cosby Show"
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imamo razloga vjerovati da su serije poput "Cosby showa"
11:24
radically changed American attitudes towards African-Americans,
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radikalno promijenili stavove Amerikanaca prema Afroamerikancima,
11:27
while shows like "Will and Grace" and "Modern Family"
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a serije poput "Will i Grace" i "Moderne obitelji"
11:30
changed American attitudes
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promijenili su stavove
11:31
towards gay men and women.
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prema homoseksualcima.
11:32
I don't think it's an exaggeration to say
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Mislim da ne pretjerujem kad kažem
11:35
that the major catalyst in America for moral change
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da su ogroman katalizator američke promjene moralnosti
11:38
has been a situation comedy.
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bili sitcomi.
11:40
But it's not all emotions,
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Ali nije sve na emocijama i
11:42
and I want to end by appealing
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želim završiti apelom na
11:43
to the power of reason.
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moć razuma.
11:45
At some point in his wonderful book
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U određenom trenutku u svojoj sjajnoj knjizi
11:47
"The Better Angels of Our Nature,"
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"Bolji anđeli naše prirode"
11:49
Steven Pinker says,
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Steven Plinker tvrdi da
11:51
the Old Testament says love thy neighbor,
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Stari Zavjet kaže "voli susjeda svoga",
11:53
and the New Testament says love thy enemy,
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a Novi "voli neprijatelja svoga",
11:56
but I don't love either one of them, not really,
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ali zapravo ne volim nijednog,
11:59
but I don't want to kill them.
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ali ne želim ih ni ubiti.
12:00
I know I have obligations to them,
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Znam da imam obveze prema njima,
12:02
but my moral feelings to them, my moral beliefs
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ali moji moralni osjećaji, moralna uvjerenja
12:06
about how I should behave towards them,
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o tome kako bih se trebao odnositi
12:07
aren't grounded in love.
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prema njima nisu utemeljeni na ljubavi.
12:09
What they're grounded in is the understanding of human rights,
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Utemeljeni su na razumijevanju ljudskih prava
12:11
a belief that their life is as valuable to them
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uvjerenja da je njihov život jednako
12:14
as my life is to me,
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vrijedan njima kao meni moj,
12:16
and to support this, he tells a story
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a kako bi podržao ovu tezu, priča priču
12:18
by the great philosopher Adam Smith,
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značajnog filozofa Adama Smitha,
12:20
and I want to tell this story too,
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a i ja je želim ispričati,
12:21
though I'm going to modify it a little bit
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iako ću je malo modificirati
12:23
for modern times.
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za moderno vrijeme.
12:24
So Adam Smith starts by asking you to imagine
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Adam Smith počinje tako što od vas traži
12:26
the death of thousands of people,
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da zamislite smrt tisuća ljudi
12:28
and imagine that the thousands of people
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i zamislite da su te tisuće ljudi
12:30
are in a country you are not familiar with.
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u zemlji koja vam nije poznata.
12:33
It could be China or India or a country in Africa.
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Mogla bi to biti Kina ili Indija ili neka zemlja u Africi.
12:36
And Smith says, how would you respond?
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Smith pita, kako biste reagirali?
12:39
And you would say, well that's too bad,
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Vi biste rekli da je to baš šsteta,
12:41
and you'd go on to the rest of your life.
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i nastavili sa svojim životima.
12:43
If you were to open up The New York Times online or something,
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Ukoliko to pročitamo online na stranici New York Timesa
12:45
and discover this, and in fact this happens to us all the time,
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i otkrijemo to, a to nam se zapravo i događa cijelo vrijeme.
12:48
we go about our lives.
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nastavljamo sa svojim životima.
12:49
But imagine instead, Smith says,
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Ali zamislite ovo, kaže Smith,
12:52
you were to learn that tomorrow
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saznate li da će vam sutra
12:53
you were to have your little finger chopped off.
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odsjeći mali prst.
12:55
Smith says, that would matter a lot.
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Smith kaže da bi vam to bilo jako bitno.
12:58
You would not sleep that night
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Ne biste spavali tu noć
12:59
wondering about that.
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razmišljajući o tome.
13:00
So this raises the question:
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Postavlja se pitanje:
13:02
Would you sacrifice thousands of lives
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Biste li žrtvovali tisuće života
13:05
to save your little finger?
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da spasite svoj mali prst?
13:07
Now answer this in the privacy of your own head,
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Sami sebi odgovorite na ovo pitanje,
13:09
but Smith says, absolutely not,
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ali Smith kaže: Nikako,
13:12
what a horrid thought.
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kakva užasna pomisao.
13:14
And so this raises the question,
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Postavlja se još jedno pitanje,
13:16
and so, as Smith puts it,
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kako to Smith kaže:
13:17
"When our passive feelings are almost always
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"Kad su naši pasivni osjećaji gotovo uvijek
13:19
so sordid and so selfish,
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tako nepošteni i sebični,
13:21
how comes it that our active principles
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kako to da bi naši aktivni
13:22
should often be so generous and so noble?"
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principi često trebali biti velikodušni i plemeniti?
13:25
And Smith's answer is, "It is reason,
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Smithov odgovor glasi:
13:27
principle, conscience.
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"Razum, principi, savjest.
13:29
[This] calls to us,
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Oni nam govore,
13:30
with a voice capable of astonishing the most presumptuous of our passions,
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glasom sposobnim zadiviti naše najoholije strasti,
13:34
that we are but one of the multitude,
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da smo mi tek pojedinac u gomili,
13:35
in no respect better than any other in it."
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koji ni po čemu nije bolji od svih drugih."
13:38
And this last part is what is often described
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Ovaj zadnji dio često se opisuje kao
13:40
as the principle of impartiality.
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princip nepristranosti.
13:43
And this principle of impartiality manifests itself
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Ovaj princip nepristranosti manifestira se
13:46
in all of the world's religions,
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u svim svjetskim religijama,
13:47
in all of the different versions of the golden rule,
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u svim različitim verzijama zlatnog pravila
13:50
and in all of the world's moral philosophies,
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i u svim drugim svjetskim moralnim filozofijama
13:52
which differ in many ways
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koje se u mnogome razlikuju,
13:53
but share the presupposition that we should judge morality
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ali dijele istu pretpostavku da moralnost moramo ocjenjivati
13:56
from sort of an impartial point of view.
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s istog nepristranog gledišta.
13:59
The best articulation of this view
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Najbolja artikulacija ovog gledišta
14:01
is actually, for me, it's not from a theologian or from a philosopher,
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za mene nije ona teologova ili filozofova,
14:04
but from Humphrey Bogart
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već ona Humphreya Bogarta
14:06
at the end of "Casablanca."
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na kraju "Casablance".
14:07
So, spoiler alert, he's telling his lover
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Otkrit ću vam detalje filma, govori svojoj ljubavnici
14:11
that they have to separate
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da se moraju rastati
14:12
for the more general good,
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za opće dobro
14:14
and he says to her, and I won't do the accent,
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i kaže joj, neću oponašati naglasak,
14:16
but he says to her, "It doesn't take much to see
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ali kaže joj: "Ne treba puno da vidiš
14:17
that the problems of three little people
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da problemi troje malih ljudi
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don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world."
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nisu ništa veći od brežuljka u ovom ludom svijetu."
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Our reason could cause us to override our passions.
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Zbog razuma bismo mogli prijeći preko strasti.
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Our reason could motivate us
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Razum bi nas mogao navesti da
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to extend our empathy,
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proširimo svoju empatiju,
14:28
could motivate us to write a book like "Uncle Tom's Cabin,"
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da pišemo knjige poput "Čiča Tomine kolibe"
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or read a book like "Uncle Tom's Cabin,"
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ili da pročitamo tu knjigu.
14:32
and our reason can motivate us to create
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Razum nas također može motivirati na stvaranje
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customs and taboos and laws
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običaja i tabua i zakona
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that will constrain us
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koji će nas ograničavati u
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from acting upon our impulses
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slijeđenju impulsa
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when, as rational beings, we feel
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kad, kao razumna bića, osjećamo
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we should be constrained.
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da nas treba ograničiti.
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This is what a constitution is.
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To je Ustav.
14:45
A constitution is something which was set up in the past
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Ustav je nešto što je postavljeno u prošlosti,
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that applies now in the present,
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a može se primijeniti na sadašnjost,
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and what it says is,
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a ono što kaže jest,
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no matter how much we might to reelect
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bez obzira na to koliko bismo željeli izabrati
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a popular president for a third term,
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popularnog predsjednika i za treći mandat,
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no matter how much white Americans might choose
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ili na to koliko bi bijelih Amerikanaca
14:57
to feel that they want to reinstate the institution of slavery, we can't.
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moglo poželjeti obnoviti institut ropstva, ne možemo to učiniti.
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We have bound ourselves.
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Ograničili smo se.
15:03
And we bind ourselves in other ways as well.
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Ograničavamo se i na druge načine.
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We know that when it comes to choosing somebody
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Znamo da kada biramo nekoga za
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for a job, for an award,
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posao, nagradu,
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we are strongly biased by their race,
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snažno smo pristrani po pitanju njihove rase,
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we are biased by their gender,
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spola,
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we are biased by how attractive they are,
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po stupnju privlačnosti i
15:19
and sometimes we might say, "Well fine, that's the way it should be."
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nekada kažemo: "Dobro, to tako mora biti."
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But other times we say, "This is wrong."
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Ali nekada kažemo: "Ovo je pogrešno."
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And so to combat this,
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Kako bismo se s time borili,
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we don't just try harder,
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mi ne samo da se više trudimo
15:28
but rather what we do is we set up situations
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nego stvaramo situacije u kojima
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where these other sources of information can't bias us,
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nas ovi drugi izvori informacija ne mogu navesti na pristranost,
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which is why many orchestras
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a zbog toga mnogi orkestri
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audition musicians behind screens,
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održavaju audicije iza zastora,
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so the only information they have
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pa je jedina informacija koju imaju
15:39
is the information they believe should matter.
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ona za koju smatraju da treba biti bitna.
15:42
I think prejudice and bias
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Smatram da predrasude i pristranosti
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illustrate a fundamental duality of human nature.
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pokazuju osnovnu dualnost ljudske prirode.
15:47
We have gut feelings, instincts, emotions,
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Imamo intuiciju, instinkte, emocije
15:51
and they affect our judgments and our actions
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i oni uvjetuju naše prosudbe i akcije
15:53
for good and for evil,
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u svrhu dobra ili zla,
15:55
but we are also capable of rational deliberation
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ali sposobni smo i racionalno promišljati
15:59
and intelligent planning,
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i inteligentno planirati,
16:01
and we can use these to, in some cases,
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pa i to u nekim situacijama možemo koristiti
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accelerate and nourish our emotions,
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kako bismo pospješili i njegovali svoje emocije
16:05
and in other cases staunch them.
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a u drugima ih očvrsnuli.
16:08
And it's in this way
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Na taj nam način
16:09
that reason helps us create a better world.
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razum pomaže stvoriti bolji svijet.
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Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
16:14
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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