Kevin Bales: How to combat modern slavery

Prevodilac: Ivana Korom Lektor: Sandra Gojic

You know for me, the interest in contemporary forms of slavery

Znate, zainteresovao sam se za moderne oblike ropstva

started with a leaflet that I picked up in London.

kada sam video jedan letak u Londonu.

It was the early '90s,

To je bilo ranih devedesetih,

and I was at a public event.

bio sam na nekom javnom događaju.

I saw this leaflet and it said,

Video sam taj letak na kom je pisalo

"There are millions of slaves in the world today."

"U svetu danas postoje milioni robova".

And I thought, "No way, no way."

Ja sam pomislio "Nema šanse, nemoguće".

And I'm going to admit to hubris.

Priznajem svoju oholost.

Because I also, I'm going to admit to you,

Jer i ja sam, priznaću vam,

I also thought, "How can I be like

i ja sam mislio, kako mogu da budem

a hot-shot young full professor

super, mladi redovni profesor

who teaches human rights and not know this?

koji predaje o ljudskim pravima, a da ne znam ovo,

So it can't be true."

dakle to ne može biti istina.

Well, if you teach, if you worship

Ali, ako predajete, ako se divite

in the temple of learning,

u hramu učenja,

do not mock the gods,

ne ismevajte bogove.

because they will take you,

Jer će vas oni obuzeti,

fill you with curiosity and desire,

napuniti znatiželjom i željom

and drive you. Drive you with a passion

i podsticati vas, podsticati sa strašću

to change things.

da promenite stvari.

I went out and did a lit review,

Izašao sam i uradio malu analizu.

3,000 articles on the key word "slavery."

3000 članaka sa ključnom reči "ropstvo".

Two turned out to be about contemporary -- only two.

Dva su bila o savremenom ropstvu - samo dva.

All the rest were historical.

Svi ostali bili su istorijski.

They were press pieces and they were full of outrage,

To su bili delovi iz štampe i bili su sramotni.

they were full of speculation, they were anecdotal --

Puni nagađanja. Bili su anegdotski.

no solid information.

Nijedna čvrsta informacija.

So, I began to do a research project of my own.

Tako sam počeo svoje istraživanje.

I went to five countries around the world.

Obišao sam pet zemalja u svetu.

I looked at slaves. I met slaveholders,

Video sam robove. Upoznao sam robovlasnike.

and I looked very deeply

I duboko sam pogledao

into slave-based businesses

poslove koji za osnovu imaju ropstvo.

because this is an economic crime.

Jer ovo je ekonomski zločin.

People do not enslave people to be mean to them.

Ljudi ne porobljavaju ljude da bi bili zli prema njima.

They do it to make a profit.

Rade to zbog zarade.

And I've got to tell you, what I found out in the world

I moram vam reći da ono što sam video, u svetu,

in four different continents,

na četiri različita kontinenta,

was depressingly familiar.

bilo je depresivno poznato.

Like this:

Kao ovo.

Agricultural workers in Africa,

Poljoprivredni radnici u Africi,

whipped and beaten,

bičevani i prebijani,

showing us how they were beaten in the fields

pokazuju nam kako su ih tukli u poljima

before they escaped from slavery

pre nego što su pobegli od ropstva

and met up with our film crew.

i našli se sa našom filmskom ekipom.

It was mind-blowing.

Bilo je to potpuno neverovatno.

And I want to be very clear.

Želim da budem veoma jasan.

I'm talking about real slavery.

Govorim o pravom ropstvu.

This is not about lousy marriages,

Ovde se ne radi o lošim brakovima.

this is not about jobs that suck.

Ne radi se o poslovima koji su bez veze.

This is about people who can not walk away,

Radi se o ljudima koji ne mogu da odu,

people who are forced to work without pay,

ljudima koji su primorani da rade bez nadoknade,

people who are operating 24/7

ljudima koji rade 24h 7 dana

under a threat of violence

pod pretnjom nasiljem,

and have no pay.

i nemaju platu.

It's real slavery in exactly the same way

To je pravo ropstvo na potpuno isti način

that slavery would be recognized

kako bi se definisalo

throughout all of human history.

kroz čitavu ljudsku istoriju.

Now, where is it?

E sad, gde je ono?

Well, this map in the sort of redder, yellower colors

Pa, na ovoj mapi crvenkaste i žućkaste boje

are the places with the highest densities of slavery.

predstavljaju mesta sa najvećom gustinom rosptva.

But in fact that kind of bluey color

Ali zapravo, ovom plavičastom bojom

are the countries where we can't find any cases of slavery.

obeležene su zemlje u kojima uopšte nema slučajeva ropstva.

And you might notice that it's only Iceland and Greenland

Možete primetiti da su jedino Island i Grenland

where we can't find any cases of enslavement

mesta gde ne nalazimo nijedan slučaj ropstva

around the world.

na svetu.

We're also particularly interested

Takođe smo veoma zainteresovani

and looking very carefully

i pažljivo pratimo

at places where

mesta gde se

slaves are being used to perpetrate

robovi koriste kako bi pričinjavali

extreme environmental destruction.

ekstremnu destrukciju na okolinu.

Around the world, slaves are used to destroy the environment,

Širom sveta robovi se koriste da uništavaju okolinu,

cutting down trees in the Amazon; destroying

seku šume u Amazonu, uništavaju

forest areas in West Africa;

šumske predele u Zapadnoj Africi,

mining and spreading mercury around

da miniraju i prosipaju živu

in places like Ghana and the Congo;

u mestima kao što su Gana i Kongo,

destroying the coastal ecosystems in South Asia.

da uništavaju obalske ekosisteme u Južnoj Aziji.

It's a pretty harrowing linkage

Veza između

between what's happening to our environment

onoga što se dešava našoj okolini

and what's happening to our human rights.

i našim ljudskim pravima je veoma uznemirujuća.

Now, how on Earth did we get to a situation like this,

Kako smo, zaboga, dospeli u ovakvu situaciju

where we have 27 million people

gde imamo 27 miliona ljudi

in slavery in the year 2010?

koji su robovi, u 2010. godini?

That's double the number that came out of Africa

To je duplo više ljudi nego što ih je došlo iz Afrike

in the entire transatlantic slave trade.

u toku cele transatlantske trgovine robljem.

Well, it builds up with these factors.

Pa, temelji se na ovim faktorima.

They are not causal, they are actually supporting factors.

Oni nisu uzročni, oni su podržavajući faktori.

One we all know about, the population explosion:

Prvi svi znamo: eksplozija populacije,

the world goes from two billion people to almost

svet je dospeo od dve milijarde na skoro

seven billion people in the last 50 years.

sedam milijardi ljudi u poslednjih 50 godina.

Being numerous does not make you a slave.

Biti u velikom broju ne čini vas robom.

Add in the increased vulnerability of very large numbers of people

Dodajte tome povećanu osetljivost veoma velikog broja ljudi

in the developing world,

u zemljama u razvoju,

caused by civil wars, ethnic conflicts,

uzrokovanu građanskim ratovima, etničkim sukobima,

kleptocratic governments, disease ... you name it, you know it.

kleptokratskim vladama, bolestima, čime god, znate sve.

We understand how that works. In some countries

Razumemo kako to funkcioniše. U nekim zemljama

all of those things happen at once,

se sve ove stvari dešavaju odjednom,

like Sierra Leone a few years ago,

kao u Sijera Leoneu pre nekoliko godina.

and push enormous parts ... about a billion people in the world, in fact,

I ogroman broj, oko milijardu ljudi u svetu,

as we know, live on the edge,

koliko mi znamo, žive na ivici,

live in situations where

žive u situacijama gde

they don't have any opportunity and are usually even destitute.

nemaju nikakvu priliku i obično su siromašni.

But that doesn't make you a slave either.

Ali ni to vas ne čini robom.

What it takes to turn a person who is destitute and vulnerable

Ono što omogućava da se jedna siromašna i osetljiva osoba

into a slave, is the absence of the rule of law.

pretvori u roba, jeste nedostatak zakona.

If the rule of law is sound, it protects

Ako je zakon jak, on štiti

the poor and it protects the vulnerable.

siromašne i štiti osetljive.

But if corruption creeps in

Ali ako se korupcija uvuče,

and people don't have the opportunity

a ljudi nemaju priliku

to have that protection of the rule of law,

da imaju tu zaštitu zakona,

then if you can use violence,

onda ako možete koristiti nasilje

if you can use violence with impunity,

i to ga koristiti nekažnjeno,

you can reach out and harvest the vulnerable

možete prikupiti veliki broj ranjivih ljudi

into slavery.

u ropstvo.

Well, that is precisely what has happened around the world.

Pa upravo to se dešava širom sveta.

Though, for a lot of people,

Mada, za mnoge ljude,

the people who step

način na koji postaju robovi,

into slavery today

ljudima koji danas postaju robovi

don't usually get kidnapped or knocked over the head.

ne dešava se da ih kidnapuju ili udare po glavi.

They come into slavery because

Postaju robovi jer

someone has asked them this question.

im je neko postavio ovo pitanje.

All around the world I've been told an almost identical story.

Svuda u svetu su mi ispričali skoro identičnu priču.

People say, "I was home,

Ljudi kažu, "Bio sam kod kuće,

someone came into our village,

neko je došao u naše selo,

they stood up in the back of a truck, they said, 'I've got jobs,

stao u prikolici kamioneta i rekao 'Nudim posao,

who needs a job?'"

kome je potreban posao?'"

And they did exactly what

I oni su učinili isto ono

you or I would do in the same situation.

što bismo vi i ja učinili u istoj situaciji.

They said, "That guy looked sketchy. I was suspicious,

Rekli su, "Taj tip je izgledao sumnjivo. Bio sam sumnjičav.

but my children were hungry.

Ali moja deca su bila gladna.

We needed medicine.

Bili su nam potrebni lekovi.

I knew I had to do anything I could

Znao sam da moram da uradim šta god mogu

to earn some money to support the people I care about."

da zaradim nešto novca da izdržavam ljude do kojih mi je stalo."

They climb into the back of the truck. They go off with the person who recruits them.

Uđu u prikolicu. Odu sa osobom koja ih je pozvala.

Ten miles, 100 miles, 1,000 miles later,

15km, 150km, 1500km kasnije

they find themselves in dirty, dangerous, demeaning work.

nađu se u prljavim, opasnim, ponižavajućim poslovima.

They take it for a little while,

Podnose to neko vreme,

but when they try to leave, bang!, the hammer comes down,

ali kada pokušaju da odu, bum, čekić udara

and they discover they're enslaved.

i otkrivaju da su zarobljeni.

Now, that kind of slavery

Sad, ta vrsta ropstva

is, again, pretty much what slavery has been all through human history.

je, opet kažem, ono što je ropstvo i bilo kroz ljudsku istoriju.

But there is one thing that is particularly remarkable

Ali postoji jedna stvar koja je prilično značajna

and novel about slavery today,

i nova u vezi sa današnjim ropstvom,

and that is a complete collapse

a to je potpuni pad

in the price of human beings --

cene ljudskih bića.

expensive in the past, dirt cheap now.

Skupi u prošlosti, odvratno jevtini danas,

Even the business programs have started

čak su i poslovni programi

picking up on this.

počeli ovo da prate.

I just want to share a little clip for you.

Želim da vam pustim jedan video klip.

Daphne: OK. Llively discussion guaranteed here, as always,

Video: Žena: Ok, živa diskusija je zagarantovana ovde, kao i uvek,

as we get macro and talk commodities.

dok pričamo o robi.

Continuing here in the studio with our guest Michael O'Donohue,

Nastavljamo u studiju, naš gost je Majkl O'Donohju,

head of commodities at Four Continents Capital Management.

šef za proizvode u Four Continents Capital Management.

And we're also joined by Brent Lawson

Pridružio nam se i Brent Loson

from Lawson Frisk Securities.

iz Loson Frisk Securities.

Brent Lawson: Happy to be here.

Brent Loson: Drago mi je što sam ovde.

D: Good to have you with us, Brent.

Žena: I nama je drago što ste s nama, Brent.

Now, gentlemen ... Brent, where is your money going this year?

Sad, gospodo, Brent, gde vaš novac ide ove godine?

BL: Well Daphne, we've been going short on gas and oil recently

BL: Pa, Dafni, u poslednje vreme nam ponestaje nafte i gasa

and casting our net just a little bit wider.

i mrežu bacamo malo dalje.

We really like the human being story a lot.

Veoma nam se dopada priča o ljudskim bićima.

If you look at a long-term chart,

Ako pogledate dugotrajne podatke,

prices are at historical lows and yet global demand

cene su najniže u istoriji a globalna potražnja

for forced labor is still real strong.

za prisilnom radnom snagom je i dalje velika.

So, that's a scenario that we think we should be capitalizing on.

Dakle, to je priča u koju mislimo da ulažemo.

D: Michael, what's your take on the people story? Are you interested?

D: Majkl, kakvo je vaše stanovište na ovu temu? Da li ste zainteresovani?

Michael O'Donoghue: Oh definitely. Non-voluntary labor's greatest advantage

Majkl O'Donohju: O, definitivno. Najveća prednost nedobrovoljnog rada

as an asset is the endless supply.

kao imovine jesu neograničene zalihe.

We're not about to run out of people. No other commodity has that.

Neće nam ponestati ljudi. Nijedna duga roba nije takva.

BL: Daphne, if I may draw your attention to one thing.

BL: Dafni, ako mogu da vam skrenem pažnju na nešto,

That is that private equity has been sniffing around,

a to je da je i privatni kapital zainteresovan.

and that tells me that this market is about to explode.

A to mi govori da će ovo tržište da doživi eksploziju.

Africans and Indians, as usual,

Afrikanci i Indijci, kao i obično,

South Americans, and Eastern Europeans in particular

Južnoamerikanci i Istočnoevropljani posebno,

are on our buy list.

nalaze se na našoj listi za kupovinu.

D: Interesting. Micheal, bottom line, what do you recommend?

D: Zanimljivo. Majkl, vaša poenta, šta preporučujete?

MO: We're recommending to our clients

MO: Našim klijentima preporučujemo

a buy and hold strategy.

strategiju kupi i čuvaj.

There's no need to play the market.

Nema potrebe da se manipuliše tržištem.

There's a lot of vulnerable people out there. It's very exciting.

Mnogo je ranjivih ljudi u svetu. Vrlo je uzbudljivo.

D: Exciting stuff indeed. Gentlemen, thank you very much.

D: Uzbudljivo, zaista. Gospodo, mnogo vam hvala.

Kevin Bales: Okay, you figured it out. That's a spoof.

Kevin Bejls: Ok, provalili ste. Ovo je lažnjak.

Though I enjoyed watching

Mada sam uživao gledajući

your jaws drop, drop, drop, until you got it.

kako vam vilice padaju, padaju, padaju, dok niste shvatili.

MTV Europe worked with us and made that spoof,

MTV Europe je radio s nama i napravio ovaj skeč.

and they've been slipping it in between music videos

I puštaju ga između muzičkih spotova,

without any introduction, which I think is kind of fun.

bez ikakvog uvoda, što mislim da je nekako zabavno.

Here's the reality.

Ovo je stvarnost.

The price of human beings across the last 4,000 years

Cena ljudskog bića u poslednjih 40.000 godina,

in today's money has averaged about 40,000 dollars.

u današnjem novcu, bila je u proseku 40.000$.

Capital purchase items.

Kapitalne investicije.

You can see that the lines cross when the population explodes.

Vidite da se linije ukrštaju kada populacija raste.

The average price of a human being today,

Prosečna cena ljudskog bića danas,

around the world, is about 90 dollars.

u svetu je oko 90$.

They are more expensive in places like North America.

Skuplji su u mestima kao što je Severna Amerika.

Slaves cost between 3,000 to 8,000 dollars in North America,

Robovi koštaju između 3.000$ i 8.000$ u Severnoj Americi.

but I could take you places in India or Nepal

Ali mogu vas povesti na mesta kao što su Indija ili Nepal,

where human beings can be acquired for five or 10 dollars.

gde se ljudska bića mogu nabaviti za 5 ili 10$.

They key here is that

Ključ je u tome

people have ceased to be that capital purchase item

što ljudi nisu više predmet kapitalne investicije,

and become like Styrofoam cups.

postali su kao plastične čaše.

You buy them cheaply, you use them,

Jevtino ih kupujete. Koristite ih.

you crumple them up, and then when you're done

Zgužvate ih. I kada završite

with them you just throw them away.

s njima, jednostavno ih odbacite.

These young boys are in Nepal.

Ovi mladići su u Nepalu.

They are basically the transport system

Oni su ustvari transportni sistem

on a quarry run by a slaveholder.

u kamenolomu jednog robovlasnika.

There are no roads there, so they carry loads of stone

Ovde nema puteva. Znači, oni nose tovare kamena

on their backs, often of their own weight,

često svoje težine, na svojim leđima,

up and down the Himalaya Mountains.

gore i dole uz Himalaje.

One of their mothers said to us,

Jedna od njihovih majki nam je rekla,

"You know, we can't survive here,

"Znate, ovde ne možemo preživeti,

but we can't even seem to die either."

ali izgleda da ne možemo ni umreti."

It's a horrible situation.

To je užasna situacija.

And if there is anything that makes me feel very positive about this,

I ako postoji išta što čini da se osetim dobro u vezi sa ovim,

it's that there are also --

to je da postoje,

in addition to young men like this who are still enslaved --

pored mladića kao što su ovi koji su još uvek u ropstvu,

there are ex-slaves who are now working to free others.

i bivši robovi koji sada rade na oslobađanju drugih.

Or, we say, Frederick Douglass is in the house.

Ili, kažemo Frederik Daglas je stigao.

I don't know if you've ever had a daydream

Ne znam da li ste ikada maštali

about, "Wow. What would it be like to meet Harriet Tubman?

o tome kako bi bilo upoznati Harijet Tubman?

What would it be like to meet Frederick Douglass?"

Kako bi bilo upoznati Frederika Daglasa?

I've got to say, one of the most exciting parts about my job

Moram reći, jedan od najuzbudljivijih delova mog posla

is that I get to,

je taj što ih ja upoznajem.

and I want to introduce you to one of those.

Želim da vam predstavim nekoga.

His name is James Kofi Annan. He was a slave child in Ghana

Zove se Džejms Kofi Anan. Kao dete bio je rob u Gani,

enslaved in the fishing industry,

zarobila ga je ribolovačka industrija.

and he now, after escape and building a new life,

A on je sada, pošto je pobegao i izgradio novi život,

has formed an organization that we work closely with

osnovao organizaciju sa kojom sarađujemo,

to go back and get people out of slavery.

za oslobađanje ljudi od ropstva.

This is not James, this is one of the kids that he works with.

Ovo nije Džejms. Ovo je jedno od dece sa kojima radi.

James Kofi Annan (Video): He was hit with a paddle

Video: Džejms Kofi Anan: Udarili su ga batinom,

in the head. And this reminds me

znate, po glavi. A to me podseća

of my childhood when I used to work here.

na moje detinjstvo, kada sam radio ovde.

KB: James and our country director in Ghana,

KB: Džejms i naš režiser iz Gane

Emmanuel Otoo are now receiving regular death threats

Emanuel Oto redovno dobijaju pretnje smrću

because the two of them managed to get

jer su njih dvojica pomogli u tome da se

convictions and imprisonment for three human traffickers

tri trgovca ljudima osude i zatvore

for the very first time in Ghana

po prvi put u Gani,

for enslaving people, from the fishing industry,

jer su porobljavali ljude za ribarsku industriju,

for enslaving children.

i zbog porobljavanja dece.

Now, everything I've been telling you,

Priznajem da je sve što vam govorim

I admit, is pretty disheartening.

prilično obeshrabrujuće.

But there is actually a very positive side to this,

Ali zapravo postoji i pozitivna strana ovoga.

and that is this: The 27 million people

A to je da je 27 miliona ljudi

who are in slavery today,

koji su robovi danas,

that's a lot of people, but it's also

to je dosta ljudi, ali je takođe

the smallest fraction

najmanji deo

of the global population to ever be in slavery.

globalne populacije u ropstvu do sada.

And likewise, the 40 billion dollars that they generate

I slično tome, 40 milijardi dolara kojim doprinose

into the global economy each year

globalnoj ekonomiji svake godine

is the tiniest proportion of the global economy

je namanji deo globalne zarade

to ever be represented by slave labor.

koji su robovi do sada zaradili.

Slavery, illegal in every country

Ropstvo, koje je ilegalno u svakoj zemlji,

has been pushed to the edges of our global society.

gurnuto je na margine našeg globalnog društva.

And in a way, without us even noticing,

I na neki način, niko nije primetio,

has ended up standing on the precipice

ali ono stoji na ivici

of its own extinction,

sopstvene propasti,

waiting for us to give it a big boot

čeka da ga gurnemo

and knock it over. And get rid of it.

i prevrnemo i da ga se otarasimo.

And it can be done.

To se može učiniti.

Now, if we do that, if we put the resources

Sad, kad bismo to uradili, kad bismo uložili resurse

and the focus to it,

i usmerili pažnju na to,

what does it actually cost to get people out of slavery?

koliko zapravo košta da se ljudi oslobode ropstva?

Well, first, before I even tell you the cost

Prvo, pre nego što vam kažem tu cenu

I've got to be absolutely clear.

želim da razjasnim nešto.

We do not buy people out of slavery.

Mi ne otkupljujemo ljude od robovlasnika.

Buying people out of slavery is like

To bi bilo kao da

paying a burglar to get your television back;

platite lopovu da vam vrati vaš televizor.

it's abetting a crime.

To je pomaganje zločinu.

Liberation, however, costs some money.

Međutim, oslobađanje košta.

Liberation, and more importantly

Oslobađanje i što je važnije,

all the work that comes after liberation.

sav posao koji sledi posle oslobađanja.

It's not an event, it's a process.

To nije događaj, to je proces.

It's about helping people to build lives of dignity,

Pomaganje ljudima da izgrade dostojanstvene živote,

stability, economic autonomy,

stabilne, ekonomski nezavisne,

citizenship.

građanske.

Well, amazingly,

Začudo,

in places like India where costs are very low,

u mestima kao što je Indija gde su cene veoma niske,

that family, that three-generation family that you see there

ta porodica, trogeneracijska porodica koju vidite,

who were in hereditary slavery --

je u naslednom ropstvu.

so, that granddad there, was born a baby into slavery --

Znači taj deda, on se rodio kao rob.

but the total cost, amortized

Ali ukupni trošak, amortizovan

across the rest of the work,

preko ostatka posla,

was about 150 dollars to bring that family

bio je oko 150$ za oslobađanje te porodice

out of slavery and then take them through a two year process

od ropstva i provođenje kroz dvogodišnji proces

to build a stable life of citizenship and education.

izgradnje stabilnog građanskog života i obrazovanja.

A boy in Ghana rescued from fishing slavery, about 400 dollars.

Spasavanje dečaka u Gani iz ropstva u ribolovu, oko 400$.

In the United States, North America,

U Sjedinjenim Državama, u Severnoj Americi,

much more expensive. Legal costs, medical costs ...

mnogo je skuplje, pravni troškovi, medicinski troškovi,

we understand that it's expensive here:

shvatamo da je ovde to skupo,

about 30,000 dollars.

oko 30.000$.

But most of the people in the world in slavery

Ali najviše ljudi u svetu ropstva

live in those places where

živi u tim mestima gde

the costs are lowest.

su troškovi najniži.

And in fact, the global average is about what it is

Ustvari, prosek na globalnom nivou je

for Ghana.

kao taj u Gani.

And that means, when you multiply it up,

A to znači da, ako pomnožite to

the estimated cost of

procenjeni trošak

not just freedom but sustainable freedom

ne samo slobode, nego održive slobode,

for the entire 27 million people on the planet in slavery

za svih 27 miliona ljudi na planeti koji su robovi,

is something like 10.8 billion dollars --

je oko 10.8 milijardi dolara,

what Americans spend on potato chips and pretzels,

koliko Amerikanci potroše na čips i perece,

what Seattle is going to spend on its light rail system:

koliko će Sijetl da potroši na svoj sistem lake železnice,

usually the annual expenditure in this country on blue jeans,

uglavnom godišnja potrošnja ove zemlje na džins,

or in the last holiday period

ili u poslednjoj sezoni odmora,

when we bought GameBoys and iPods and other tech gifts for people,

kada smo kupovali GameBoy ili iPod ili druge tehničke poklone,

we spent 10.8 billion dollars.

potrošili smo 10.8 milijardi dolara.

Intel's fourth quarter earnings: 10.8 billion.

Intelova zarada u poslednjem kvartalu je 10.8 milijardi.

It's not a lot of money at the global level.

To na globalnom nivou nije mnogo novca,

In fact, it's peanuts.

ustvari veoma je malo.

And the great thing about it is that

A najboja stvar u vezi s time je

it's not money down a hole,

što to nije bačen novac,

there is a freedom dividend. When you let people out of slavery

to je ulog u slobodu. Kada oslobodite ljude ropstva,

to work for themselves,

kada mogu da rade za sebe,

are they motivated?

da li su motivisani?

They take their kids out of the workplace,

Odvedu svoju decu dalje od radnih mesta,

they build a school, they say,

izgrade školu, kažu

"We're going to have stuff we've never had before like three squares,

"Imaćemo nešto što pre nismo imali, tri kvadrata,

medicine when we're sick,

lek kada smo bolesni,

clothing when we're cold."

odeću kad nam je hladno."

They become consumers and producers

Postaju konzumenti i proizvođači

and local economies begin to spiral up very rapidly.

i lokalna ekonomija vrtoglavo raste.

That's important, all of that

To je važno, sve o tome kako

about how we rebuild sustainable freedom,

ponovo izgrađujemo održivu slobodu,

because we'd never want to repeat

jer ne želimo da ponovimo

what happened in this country in 1865.

ono što se desilo u ovoj zemlji 1865.

Four million people were lifted up out of slavery

Četiri miliona ljudi je oslobođeno ropstva

and then dumped.

i onda ostavljeno,

Dumped without political participation,

ostavljeno bez političkog angažovanja,

decent education,

pristojnog obrazovanja,

any kind of real opportunity

bilo kakve prave prilike

in terms of economic lives,

u smislu ekonomskog života,

and then sentenced to generations of

i osuđeno na godine

violence and prejudice and discrimination.

nasilja i predrasuda i diskriminacije.

And America is still paying the price

A America još uvek plaća cenu za

for the botched emancipation of 1865.

loše sprovedenu emancipaciju 1865.

We have made a commitment

Obavezali smo se da, dok se mi pitamo,

that we will never let people

nikada nećemo dopustiti da se ljudi

come out of slavery on our watch,

oslobode ropstva

and end up as second class citizens.

i završe kao drugorazredni građani.

It's just not going to happen.

To se jednostavno neće desiti.

This is what liberation really looks like.

Ovako stvarno izgleda oslobođenje.

Children rescued from slavery in the fishing industry in Ghana,

Deca koja su oslobođena ropstva u ribarskoj industirji u Gani,

reunited with their parents,

ponovo spojena sa svojim roditeljima

and then taken with their parents back to their villages

i onda s njima odevedena nazad u svoja sela

to rebuild their economic well-being

da obnavljaju ekonomsko stanje

so that they become slave-proof --

kako bi postali otporni,

absolutely unenslaveable.

otporni na porobljavanje.

Now, this woman

Ova žena

lived in a village in Nepal.

je živela u jednom selu u Nepalu.

We'd been working there about a month.

Radili smo tamo oko mesec dana.

They had just begun to come out of a hereditary kind of slavery.

Oni su tek počeli da izlaze iz naslednog ropstva.

They'd just begun to light up a little bit,

Tek je počinjalo da bude bolje,

open up a little bit.

otvarali su se.

But when we went to speak with her, when we took this photograph,

Ali kada smo išli da razgovaramo s njom, kad smo je fotografisali,

the slaveholders were still menacing us

robovlasnici su nam i dalje pretili

from the sidelines. They hadn't been really pushed back.

sa strana. Nisu bili stvarno sklonjeni.

I was frightened. We were frightened.

Bio sam uplašen. Svi smo bili uplašeni.

We said to her, "Are you worried? Are you upset?"

Pitali smo je, "Da li ste uplašeni? Da li ste uznemireni?"

She said, "No, because we've got hope now.

Rekla je, "Ne, jer sada imamo nade.

How could we not succeed," she said,

Kako da ne uspemo", rekla je,

"when people like you from the other side of the world

"kada ljudi kao vi s drugog kraja sveta

are coming here to stand beside us?"

dolaze ovde da stanu uz nas?"

Okay, we have to ask ourselves,

OK, moramo da se zapitamo

are we willing to live in a world with slavery?

da li želimo da živimo u svetu u kom postoji ropstvo.

If we don't take action, we just leave ourselves open

Ako ništa ne preduzimamo, prepuštamo

to have someone else jerk the strings

nekome drugom da vuče konce

that tie us to slavery in the products we buy,

koji nas vezuju za ropstvo kroz proizvode koje kupujemo,

and in our government policies.

i kroz politike naših vlada.

And yet, if there's one thing that every human being can agree on,

Opet, ako postoji jedna stvar oko koje svi ljudi mogu da se slože,

I think it's that slavery should end.

to je, po mom mišljenju, da ropstvu mora doći kraj.

And if there is a fundamental violation

I ako postoji značajno ugrožavanje

of our human dignity

našeg ljudskog dostojanstva,

that we would all say is horrific,

za koje možemo svi reći da je užasno,

it's slavery.

onda je to ropstvo.

And we've got to say,

Moramo se zapitati

what good is all of our intellectual

kakva je korist od sve naše intelektualne,

and political and economic power --

političke i ekonomske moći,

and I'm really thinking intellectual power in this room --

a ovde mislim na intelektualnu moć u ovoj prostoriji,

if we can't use it to bring slavery to an end?

ako ne možemo da je iskoristimo da okončamo ropstvo?

I think there is enough intellectual power in this room

Mislim da u ovoj prostoriji ima dovoljno intelektualne moći

to bring slavery to an end.

da okonča ropstvo.

And you know what? If we can't do that,

I znate šta? Ako to ne možemo da uradimo,

if we can't use our intellectual power to end slavery,

ako ne možemo da iskoristimo našu intelektualnu moć da okončamo ropstvo,

there is one last question:

ostaje još samo jedno pitanje,

Are we truly free?

da li smo zaista slobodni?

Okay, thank you so much.

OK, mnogo vam hvala.

(Applause)

(aplauz)