Kevin Bales: How to combat modern slavery

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You know for me, the interest in contemporary forms of slavery

Znate, moj interes za suvremene oblike ropstva

started with a leaflet that I picked up in London.

započeo je tako što sam u Londonu pokupio letak.

It was the early '90s,

Bilo je to ranih 90-tih,

and I was at a public event.

na javnom događanju.

I saw this leaflet and it said,

Vidio sam taj letak na kojem je pisalo:

"There are millions of slaves in the world today."

"Danas u svijetu postoje milijuni robova."

And I thought, "No way, no way."

I onda sam pomislio, "Nema šanse, nema šanse."

And I'm going to admit to hubris.

I priznat ću tu oholost.

Because I also, I'm going to admit to you,

Zato jer, priznat ću vam,

I also thought, "How can I be like

pomislio sam ako ja kao

a hot-shot young full professor

uvaženi, mladi redovni profesor

who teaches human rights and not know this?

koji podučava ljudska prava ne znam za to

So it can't be true."

onda to sigurno nije istina.

Well, if you teach, if you worship

Pa, ako podučavate, ako se klanjate

in the temple of learning,

u hramu znanja

do not mock the gods,

ne rugajte se bogovima.

because they will take you,

Zato jer će vas oni

fill you with curiosity and desire,

ispuniti znatiželjom i htijenjem

and drive you. Drive you with a passion

i voditi vas, voditi vas sa strašću da

to change things.

promijenite stvari.

I went out and did a lit review,

Otišao sam i napravio mali pregled

3,000 articles on the key word "slavery."

3.000 članaka s ključnom riječju "ropstvo"

Two turned out to be about contemporary -- only two.

da bi se ispostavilo da su suvremena samo dva, a

All the rest were historical.

svi ostali bili su povijesni.

They were press pieces and they were full of outrage,

Bili su to izvatci iz novina puni nasilja,

they were full of speculation, they were anecdotal --

prepuni nagađanja, anegdotski.

no solid information.

Nije bilo kvalitetnih informacija

So, I began to do a research project of my own.

i zato sam započeo svoj istraživački projekt.

I went to five countries around the world.

Otišao sam u pet zemalja diljem svijeta.

I looked at slaves. I met slaveholders,

Tragao sam za robovima. Upoznao sam robovlasnike.

and I looked very deeply

I proučavao sam vrlo temeljito

into slave-based businesses

poslove koji su bazirani na robovlasništvu.

because this is an economic crime.

Jer to je ekonomski zločin.

People do not enslave people to be mean to them.

Ljudi ne porobljavaju ljude zato da bi bili zli prema njima.

They do it to make a profit.

To rade kako bi ostvarili profit.

And I've got to tell you, what I found out in the world

I moram vam reći, ono što sam našao, po svijetu

in four different continents,

na četiri različita kontinenta

was depressingly familiar.

bilo je deprimirajuće prepoznatljivo.

Like this:

Kao ovo.

Agricultural workers in Africa,

Poljoprivredni radnici u Africi,

whipped and beaten,

šibani i tučeni,

showing us how they were beaten in the fields

pokazuju nam kako su tučeni u poljima,

before they escaped from slavery

prije nego su pobjegli iz ropstva

and met up with our film crew.

i susreli se s našom filmskom ekipom.

It was mind-blowing.

To je bilo zastrašujuće.

And I want to be very clear.

I želim biti jako jasan.

I'm talking about real slavery.

Ja ovdje govorim o pravom ropstvu.

This is not about lousy marriages,

Ovdje se ne radi o lošim brakovima.

this is not about jobs that suck.

Ne radi se o poslovima koji su bezveze.

This is about people who can not walk away,

Radi se o ljudima koji ne mogu otići,

people who are forced to work without pay,

ljudima koji su prisiljeni raditi bez plaće,

people who are operating 24/7

ljudima koji rade 24 sata dnevno 7 dana u tjednu

under a threat of violence

pod prijetnjom nasiljem,

and have no pay.

i nemaju nikakvu nadnicu.

It's real slavery in exactly the same way

To je pravo ropstvo na isti način

that slavery would be recognized

kakvo je bilo ropstvo

throughout all of human history.

kroz cijelu ljudsku povijest.

Now, where is it?

I onda, gdje je?

Well, this map in the sort of redder, yellower colors

Ova karta u nijansama crvenih i žutih boja

are the places with the highest densities of slavery.

prikazuje mjesta s najvećom gustoćom ropstva.

But in fact that kind of bluey color

No samo ove plavičaste boje

are the countries where we can't find any cases of slavery.

zemlje su u kojima ne možemo naći slučajeve ropstva.

And you might notice that it's only Iceland and Greenland

Možete primjetiti da samo na Islandu i Grenlandu

where we can't find any cases of enslavement

od cijelog svijeta, ne možemo naći

around the world.

slučajeve ropstva.

We're also particularly interested

Posebno smo zainteresirani

and looking very carefully

i jako smo pažljivo tragali

at places where

za mjestima gdje

slaves are being used to perpetrate

su robovi korišteni za počinjenje

extreme environmental destruction.

ekstremnog uništavanja okoliša.

Around the world, slaves are used to destroy the environment,

Diljem svijeta, robovi su korišteni za uništavanje okoliša

cutting down trees in the Amazon; destroying

sječom šume u Amazoni, uništavanjem

forest areas in West Africa;

šumskih područja u sjevernoj Africi,

mining and spreading mercury around

miniranjem i širenjem žive u okoliš

in places like Ghana and the Congo;

na mjestima kao što su Gana i Kongo,

destroying the coastal ecosystems in South Asia.

uništavanjem obalnih područja u južnoj Aziji.

It's a pretty harrowing linkage

Prilično je uznemirujuća veza

between what's happening to our environment

između onog što se događa s okolišem

and what's happening to our human rights.

i onoga što se događa ljudskim pravima.

Now, how on Earth did we get to a situation like this,

I kako smo li samo dospjeli u ovakvu situaciju

where we have 27 million people

u kojoj je 27 milijuna ljudi

in slavery in the year 2010?

u 2010. godini u ropstvu?

That's double the number that came out of Africa

To je dvostruko veći broj od cjelokupne

in the entire transatlantic slave trade.

transatlantske trgovine robovima iz Afrike.

Well, it builds up with these factors.

Situacija se sastoji od sljedećih faktora.

They are not causal, they are actually supporting factors.

Oni nisu uzročni, već podržavajući faktori.

One we all know about, the population explosion:

Jedan za koji svi znamo: eksplozija stanovništva

the world goes from two billion people to almost

svijet je od dvije milijarde ljudi došao do

seven billion people in the last 50 years.

sedam milijardi u zadnjih 50 godina.

Being numerous does not make you a slave.

Međutim, mnogobrojnost nas ne čini robovima.

Add in the increased vulnerability of very large numbers of people

Dodajte tome rastuću ranjivost velikog broja ljudi

in the developing world,

u zemljama u razvoju,

caused by civil wars, ethnic conflicts,

uzrokovanu građanskim ratovima, etničkim sukobima,

kleptocratic governments, disease ... you name it, you know it.

vladama zasnovanim na krađi, bolestima, i poznatim sličnim stvarima.

We understand how that works. In some countries

Mi razumijemo kako to ide. U nekim zemljama

all of those things happen at once,

sve ove stvari dogode se u isto vrijeme

like Sierra Leone a few years ago,

kao u Siera Leone-u prije nekoliko godina.

and push enormous parts ... about a billion people in the world, in fact,

I gurnu ogromne dijelove, oko milijardu ljudi u svijetu, zapravo

as we know, live on the edge,

kao što znamo, na rub egzistencije.

live in situations where

Oni žive u situacijama gdje

they don't have any opportunity and are usually even destitute.

nemaju nikakvih mogućnosti, većinom su ih potpuno lišeni.

But that doesn't make you a slave either.

Ali ni to te ne čini robom.

What it takes to turn a person who is destitute and vulnerable

Ono što je potrebno da osobu ranjivu i lišenu mogućnosti pretvori

into a slave, is the absence of the rule of law.

u roba nepostojanje je vladavine zakona.

If the rule of law is sound, it protects

Ako vladavina zakona postoji onda štiti

the poor and it protects the vulnerable.

siromašne, i štiti ranjive.

But if corruption creeps in

Ali ako se korupcija tiho uvuče

and people don't have the opportunity

i ljudi nemaju mogućnosti

to have that protection of the rule of law,

imati zaštitu zakona

then if you can use violence,

u tom slučaju ako koristiš nasilje,

if you can use violence with impunity,

ako možeš nekažnjeno koristiti nasilje,

you can reach out and harvest the vulnerable

možeš posegnuti i ranjive skupine

into slavery.

pretvoriti u roblje.

Well, that is precisely what has happened around the world.

Eto, točno to se dogodilo na raznim mjestima u svijetu.

Though, for a lot of people,

Pomislih, za mnogo ljudi

the people who step

način na koje su ušli u suvremeno ropstvo,

into slavery today

ljudi kojima se dogodilo suvremeno ropstvo

don't usually get kidnapped or knocked over the head.

najčešće nisu oteti ili udareni nečim po glavi.

They come into slavery because

Oni su u ropstvo ušli

someone has asked them this question.

jer im je netko postavio pitanje.

All around the world I've been told an almost identical story.

Širom svijeta ispričali su mi gotovo identičnu priču.

People say, "I was home,

Ljudi kažu: "Bio sam kod kuće,

someone came into our village,

netko je došao u naše selo,

they stood up in the back of a truck, they said, 'I've got jobs,

i stojeći na zadnjem dijelu kamiona rekao: imam posla,

who needs a job?'"

tko treba posao?"

And they did exactly what

I oni su učinili isto što bi

you or I would do in the same situation.

vi ili ja učinili u toj situaciji.

They said, "That guy looked sketchy. I was suspicious,

Kažu: "Čovjek je izgledao čudno. Bio sam sumnjičav.

but my children were hungry.

Ali djeca su mi bila gladna.

We needed medicine.

Trebali smo lijekove.

I knew I had to do anything I could

Znao sam da moram učiniti sve što mogu

to earn some money to support the people I care about."

da zaradim novac za uzdržavanje onih koje volim."

They climb into the back of the truck. They go off with the person who recruits them.

Popnu se straga u kamion. Odu s osobom koja ih je unovačila.

Ten miles, 100 miles, 1,000 miles later,

10 milja, 100 milja, 1.000 milja kasnije

they find themselves in dirty, dangerous, demeaning work.

nađu se radeći prljav, opasan, ponižavajući posao.

They take it for a little while,

Oni prihvate posao na neko vrijeme

but when they try to leave, bang!, the hammer comes down,

no kad požele otići, beng, dogodi se udarac kao čekićem

and they discover they're enslaved.

i otkriju da su porobljeni.

Now, that kind of slavery

Pa sad, takva vrsta ropstva

is, again, pretty much what slavery has been all through human history.

jako je slična onome kakvo je ropstvo bilo kroz cijelu ljudsku povijest.

But there is one thing that is particularly remarkable

No postoji jedna stvar koja je drugačija

and novel about slavery today,

i nova kod ropstva današnjice.

and that is a complete collapse

To je potpuni kolaps

in the price of human beings --

vrijednosti ljudskog bića.

expensive in the past, dirt cheap now.

Skupo u prošlosti, nevjerojatno jeftino danas

Even the business programs have started

čak su i poslovni programi počeli

picking up on this.

to shvaćati.

I just want to share a little clip for you.

Volio bih podijeliti s vama ovaj isječak.

Daphne: OK. Llively discussion guaranteed here, as always,

Video: Žena: ok, ovdje je zagarantirana živa rasprava, kao i obično,

as we get macro and talk commodities.

kada pričamo o vrijednosti roba na svjetskom tržištu.

Continuing here in the studio with our guest Michael O'Donohue,

Nastavljamo u studiju s našim gostom Michaelom O'Donohueom

head of commodities at Four Continents Capital Management.

šefom nabave u Four Continents Capital Management-u.

And we're also joined by Brent Lawson

Priključit će nam se i Brent Lawson

from Lawson Frisk Securities.

iz Lawson Frisk Securities-a.

Brent Lawson: Happy to be here.

Brent Lawson: Drago mi je što sam ovdje.

D: Good to have you with us, Brent.

Žena: Dobrodošli Brent.

Now, gentlemen ... Brent, where is your money going this year?

A sada gospodo, Brent, gdje ide vaš novac ove godine?

BL: Well Daphne, we've been going short on gas and oil recently

BL: Pa, Daphne, nedavno nam je nedostajalo nafte i plina,

and casting our net just a little bit wider.

pa smo malo i proširili naše poslove nabave.

We really like the human being story a lot.

Jako nam je draga i ta priča o ljudima.

If you look at a long-term chart,

Ako pogledate na ovaj dugoročni dijagram

prices are at historical lows and yet global demand

cijene su najniže u povijesti, a globalni zahtijevi

for forced labor is still real strong.

za prisilnim radom i dalje su iznimno veliki.

So, that's a scenario that we think we should be capitalizing on.

Dakle to je scenario koji trebamo unovčiti.

D: Michael, what's your take on the people story? Are you interested?

D: Michael, koji je vaš interes u priči o ljudima? Jeste li zainteresirani?

Michael O'Donoghue: Oh definitely. Non-voluntary labor's greatest advantage

Micheal O'Donohue: O, apsolutno. Najveća prednost prisilnog rada,

as an asset is the endless supply.

kao imovine, je njena neograničena ponuda.

We're not about to run out of people. No other commodity has that.

Nemoguće je da ostanemo bez ljudi. Nijedna roba nije kao ova.

BL: Daphne, if I may draw your attention to one thing.

BL: Daphne, ako ti mogu skrenuti pažnju na jednu stvar,

That is that private equity has been sniffing around,

a to je da se privatni kapital raspituje okolo.

and that tells me that this market is about to explode.

A to mi govori da bi ovo tržište moglo uskoro eksplodirati.

Africans and Indians, as usual,

Ljudi iz Afrike, Indijanci, kao i obično,

South Americans, and Eastern Europeans in particular

Južnoamerikanci i posebno Istočni Europljani

are on our buy list.

na našoj su listi za kupnju.

D: Interesting. Micheal, bottom line, what do you recommend?

D: Zanimljivo. Michael, što ti preporučuješ?

MO: We're recommending to our clients

MO: Mi našim klijentima preporučujemo

a buy and hold strategy.

strategiju "kupi i čekaj".

There's no need to play the market.

Nema potrebe za igranjem na tržištu.

There's a lot of vulnerable people out there. It's very exciting.

Tamo je puno ranjivih ljudi. To je tako uzbudljivo.

D: Exciting stuff indeed. Gentlemen, thank you very much.

D: Zaista zanimljivo. Gospodo, hvala vam puno.

Kevin Bales: Okay, you figured it out. That's a spoof.

Kevin Bales: OK, shvatili ste. Ovo je skeč.

Though I enjoyed watching

Baš sam uživao gledati

your jaws drop, drop, drop, until you got it.

vaše vilice kako padaju, padaju, padaju dok niste shvatili.

MTV Europe worked with us and made that spoof,

MTV Europe je surađivao s nama i snimio ovaj skeč.

and they've been slipping it in between music videos

I puštali su ga između glazbenih spotova

without any introduction, which I think is kind of fun.

bez ikakve najave, što je, čini mi se na neki način smiješno.

Here's the reality.

Evo što je realnost.

The price of human beings across the last 4,000 years

Cijena ljudskog bića u proteklih 40.000 godina

in today's money has averaged about 40,000 dollars.

u današnjem novcu prosječno je oko 40.000$

Capital purchase items.

Kapitalna ulaganja.

You can see that the lines cross when the population explodes.

Možete vidjeti da se linije sijeku kad dolazi do eksplozije populacije.

The average price of a human being today,

Prosječna cijena ljudskog bića danas,

around the world, is about 90 dollars.

u svijetu je oko 90$.

They are more expensive in places like North America.

Malo su skuplji na mjestima kao što je Sjeverna Amerika.

Slaves cost between 3,000 to 8,000 dollars in North America,

u Sjevernoj Americi robovi koštaju između 3.000$ i 8.000$.

but I could take you places in India or Nepal

No mogu vas odvesti na mjesta u Indiji i Nepalu

where human beings can be acquired for five or 10 dollars.

gdje čovjeka možete nabaviti za 5$ ili 10$.

They key here is that

Ključna je stvar ovom

people have ceased to be that capital purchase item

da su ljudi prestali biti vrijedna roba

and become like Styrofoam cups.

i postali su kao čaše od stiropora.

You buy them cheaply, you use them,

Kupite ih jeftino. Koristite ih.

you crumple them up, and then when you're done

Zgužvate ih, i kad ste gotovi s njima

with them you just throw them away.

jednostavno ih bacite.

These young boys are in Nepal.

Oni mladi dečki su u Nepalu.

They are basically the transport system

U osnovi oni su prijevozni sustav

on a quarry run by a slaveholder.

u kamenolomu koji drži robovlasnik.

There are no roads there, so they carry loads of stone

Tamo nema ceste, pa oni nose hrpe kamena

on their backs, often of their own weight,

često teške kao i oni sami, na svojim leđima

up and down the Himalaya Mountains.

gore i dolje po Himalajskim planinama.

One of their mothers said to us,

Majka jednog od njih rekla nam je,

"You know, we can't survive here,

"Znaš, ne možemo preživjeti ovdje,

but we can't even seem to die either."

ali ne možemo, čini se, ni umrijeti."

It's a horrible situation.

To je strašna situacija.

And if there is anything that makes me feel very positive about this,

I ako ima išta što mi daje tračak nade u ovoj situaciji

it's that there are also --

je da tamo, također,

in addition to young men like this who are still enslaved --

uz to što ima mladih ljudi koji su neporobljeni

there are ex-slaves who are now working to free others.

ima i bivših robova koji rade na tome da oslobode druge.

Or, we say, Frederick Douglass is in the house.

Ili, kažemo, Federick Douglass je stigao.

I don't know if you've ever had a daydream

Ne znam jeste li ikada sanjarili,

about, "Wow. What would it be like to meet Harriet Tubman?

o tome, vau, kako bi bilo sresti Harriet Tubman?

What would it be like to meet Frederick Douglass?"

Kako bi bilo sresti Fredericka Douglassa?

I've got to say, one of the most exciting parts about my job

Moram reći, jedan od najzanimljivijih dijelova mog posla

is that I get to,

je da sam ja to mogao.

and I want to introduce you to one of those.

I želim vas upoznati s jednim od njih.

His name is James Kofi Annan. He was a slave child in Ghana

Njegovo ime je James Kofi Annan, kao dijete je bio rob u Gani.

enslaved in the fishing industry,

porobljen u ribarskoj industriji.

and he now, after escape and building a new life,

On je sada, nakon bijega i stvaranja novog života

has formed an organization that we work closely with

stvorio organizaciju s kojom blisko surađujemo

to go back and get people out of slavery.

koja se bavi spašavanjem ljudi iz ropstva.

This is not James, this is one of the kids that he works with.

Ovo nije James. Ovo je jedno od djece s kojom on radi.

James Kofi Annan (Video): He was hit with a paddle

Video: James Kofi Annan: On je bio pogođen veslom

in the head. And this reminds me

znate, u glavu. I to me podsjeća

of my childhood when I used to work here.

na moje djetinjstvo, kada sam ovdje radio.

KB: James and our country director in Ghana,

KB: James i naš regionalni direktor u Gani

Emmanuel Otoo are now receiving regular death threats

Emmanuel Oto* sada redovito primaju prijetnje smrću

because the two of them managed to get

jer su njih dvojica po prvi put, uspjela ishoditi

convictions and imprisonment for three human traffickers

osudu i zatvaranje trojice trgovaca ljudima

for the very first time in Ghana

u Gani

for enslaving people, from the fishing industry,

za porobljavanje ljudi u ribolovnoj industriji,

for enslaving children.

za porobljavanje djece.

Now, everything I've been telling you,

Sve što sam vam govorio,

I admit, is pretty disheartening.

priznajem, prilično rastužuje.

But there is actually a very positive side to this,

No to sve zapravo ima i dosta pozitivnu stranu.

and that is this: The 27 million people

A to je ovo, 27 milijuna ljudi

who are in slavery today,

koji su danas u ropstvu,

that's a lot of people, but it's also

to je dosta ljudi no to je također

the smallest fraction

maleni dio

of the global population to ever be in slavery.

svjetske populacije koja je ikada bila u ropstvu.

And likewise, the 40 billion dollars that they generate

i također, 40 milijardi dolara koje oni doprinose

into the global economy each year

globalnoj ekonomiji svake godine

is the tiniest proportion of the global economy

najmanji je udio ikada koji je

to ever be represented by slave labor.

robovski rad doprinio toj istoj globalnoj ekonomiji.

Slavery, illegal in every country

Ropstvo, ilegalno u svakoj zemlji

has been pushed to the edges of our global society.

potisnuto je na margine globalnog društva.

And in a way, without us even noticing,

I, na neki način, bez da smo i primjetili,

has ended up standing on the precipice

završilo je stojeći na litici

of its own extinction,

svog izumiranja,

waiting for us to give it a big boot

čekajući na nas da mu zadamo zadnji udarac

and knock it over. And get rid of it.

gurnemo ga preko ruba i završimo s njim.

And it can be done.

I to može biti učinjeno.

Now, if we do that, if we put the resources

Ako to učinimo, ako smognemo resurse

and the focus to it,

i usmjerimo se na to,

what does it actually cost to get people out of slavery?

koliko zapravo košta izvući ljude iz ropstva?

Well, first, before I even tell you the cost

Pa, prvo, prije nego vam kažem cijenu

I've got to be absolutely clear.

moram biti potpuno jasan.

We do not buy people out of slavery.

Mi ne otkupljujemo ljude iz ropstva.

Buying people out of slavery is like

Otkupljivanje ljudi iz ropstva je kao

paying a burglar to get your television back;

plaćanje provalniku da vam nazad vrati vaš televizor.

it's abetting a crime.

To je poticanje zločina.

Liberation, however, costs some money.

Oslobađanje, pak košta nešto novca.

Liberation, and more importantly

Oslobađanje, i što je važnije

all the work that comes after liberation.

sav posao koji dolazi nakon oslobođenja.

It's not an event, it's a process.

To nije jedan događaj, to je proces.

It's about helping people to build lives of dignity,

To je pomoć ljudima da izgrade dostojanstven život,

stability, economic autonomy,

stabilnost, ekonomsku neovisnost,

citizenship.

državljanstvo.

Well, amazingly,

Nevjerojatno, no

in places like India where costs are very low,

na mjestu kao što je Indija, gdje su troškovi vrlo niski

that family, that three-generation family that you see there

ova obitelj, ova obitelj od tri generacije koju ovdje vidite,

who were in hereditary slavery --

koja je bila u nasljednom ropstvu,

so, that granddad there, was born a baby into slavery --

dakle, ovaj djed, rođen je, kao beba, u ropstvu.

but the total cost, amortized

Ukupan trošak, uključujući i

across the rest of the work,

"amortizaciju budućeg rada"

was about 150 dollars to bring that family

bio je oko $150 dolara da se ta obitelj izbavi

out of slavery and then take them through a two year process

iz ropstva i prođe kroz dvije godine dug proces

to build a stable life of citizenship and education.

da stvore stabilan život, državljanstvo i obrazovanje.

A boy in Ghana rescued from fishing slavery, about 400 dollars.

Dječak u Gani spašen iz ropstva u ribolovnoj industriji, oko 400$.

In the United States, North America,

U Sjedinjenim Američkim Državama, Sjeverna Amerika,

much more expensive. Legal costs, medical costs ...

puno je skuplje: pravni troškovi, zdravstveni troškovi,

we understand that it's expensive here:

razumijemo to, tamo je skupo,

about 30,000 dollars.

oko 30 000$.

But most of the people in the world in slavery

No većina ljudi u svijetu koji su u ropstvu

live in those places where

živi na mjestima gdje

the costs are lowest.

su troškovi najniži.

And in fact, the global average is about what it is

I zapravo, globalni troškovi su u prosjeku kao što su

for Ghana.

u Gani.

And that means, when you multiply it up,

To znači, kada sve to pomnožite

the estimated cost of

procijenjena cijena,

not just freedom but sustainable freedom

ne samo slobode, nego održive slobode

for the entire 27 million people on the planet in slavery

za svih 27 milijuna ljudi na planeti koji su u ropstvu

is something like 10.8 billion dollars --

to je nešto oko 10,8 milijardi dolara

what Americans spend on potato chips and pretzels,

što Amerikanci potroše na krumpiriće i perece,

what Seattle is going to spend on its light rail system:

što će Seattle potrošiti na svoj novi sustav gradske željeznice,

usually the annual expenditure in this country on blue jeans,

uobičajeni godišnji troškovi u ovoj zemlji za traperice,

or in the last holiday period

ili za zadnje blagdane

when we bought GameBoys and iPods and other tech gifts for people,

kada smo kupili GameBoy-e i Ipod-e i ostale tehničke darove

we spent 10.8 billion dollars.

potrošili smo 10,8 milijardi dolara.

Intel's fourth quarter earnings: 10.8 billion.

Intel je u zadnjem kvartalu ostvario 10,8 milijardi $ prihoda.

It's not a lot of money at the global level.

To nije puno novca na globalnoj razini,

In fact, it's peanuts.

zapravo to je sitniš.

And the great thing about it is that

A najbolja stvar od svega je

it's not money down a hole,

što to nije bačen novac,

there is a freedom dividend. When you let people out of slavery

to je ulog u slobodu. Kada oslobodite ljude iz ropstva

to work for themselves,

da rade sami za sebe

are they motivated?

jesu li motivirani?

They take their kids out of the workplace,

Uzmu svoju djecu s radnih mjesta,

they build a school, they say,

izgrade školu, oni kažu

"We're going to have stuff we've never had before like three squares,

"Oni će imati ono što mi nismo nikada prije imali,

medicine when we're sick,

lijekove kad su bolesni,

clothing when we're cold."

odjeću kad im bude hladno.

They become consumers and producers

Oni postaju potrošači i proizvođači,

and local economies begin to spiral up very rapidly.

i lokalna ekonomija vrlo brzo počne rasti.

That's important, all of that

To je važno, sve to

about how we rebuild sustainable freedom,

kako ponovno uspostavljamo održivu slobodu,

because we'd never want to repeat

jer ne bismo nikada voljeli ponoviti

what happened in this country in 1865.

što se u ovoj zemlji dogodio 1865.

Four million people were lifted up out of slavery

Četiri milijuna ljudi izbavljeno je iz ropstva

and then dumped.

i onda ostavljeno,

Dumped without political participation,

odbačeno bez političke participacije,

decent education,

pristojne naobrazbe,

any kind of real opportunity

bilo kakve prave prilike

in terms of economic lives,

za ostvarenje vlastitih prihoda,

and then sentenced to generations of

i osuđeno na generaciju

violence and prejudice and discrimination.

nasilja i predrasuda i diskriminacije.

And America is still paying the price

A Amerika još uvijek plaća cijenu

for the botched emancipation of 1865.

za neuspjelu emancipaciju 1865.

We have made a commitment

Mi smo se obvezali

that we will never let people

da nećemo ostaviti ljude

come out of slavery on our watch,

da izađu iz ropstva uz našu pomoć i

and end up as second class citizens.

završe kao građani drugog reda.

It's just not going to happen.

To se neće dogoditi.

This is what liberation really looks like.

Ovako oslobođenje uistinu izgleda.

Children rescued from slavery in the fishing industry in Ghana,

Djeca spašena iz ropstva u ribolovnoj industriji u Gani,

reunited with their parents,

vraćena svojim roditeljima,

and then taken with their parents back to their villages

i zajedno s roditeljima vraćena u njihova sela

to rebuild their economic well-being

da ponovo izgrade svoje ekonomsko blagostanje

so that they become slave-proof --

tako da postanu otporni na porobljavanje,

absolutely unenslaveable.

apsolutno neporobivi.

Now, this woman

Ova žena,

lived in a village in Nepal.

je živjela u selu u Nepalu.

We'd been working there about a month.

Tamo smo radili oko mjesec dana.

They had just begun to come out of a hereditary kind of slavery.

Oni su tek počeli izlaziti iz nasljednog ropstva.

They'd just begun to light up a little bit,

Tek su pomalo počeli oživljavati,

open up a little bit.

malo se otvarati.

But when we went to speak with her, when we took this photograph,

No kad smo otišli razgovarati s njom, kada smo snimili ovu fotografiju

the slaveholders were still menacing us

robovlasnici su nam još uvijek prijetili

from the sidelines. They hadn't been really pushed back.

iz prikrajka. Oni nisu bili uistinu udaljeni.

I was frightened. We were frightened.

Bio sam prestrašen. Mi smo bili prestrašeni.

We said to her, "Are you worried? Are you upset?"

Rekli smo joj: "Jesi li zabrinuta? Jesi li uznemirena?"

She said, "No, because we've got hope now.

Ona je rekla: "Ne jer sada imamo nadu.

How could we not succeed," she said,

Kako ne bismo mogli uspjeti", rekla je

"when people like you from the other side of the world

kada ljudi kao ti s druge strane svijeta

are coming here to stand beside us?"

dolaze ovdje da stanu uz nas?"

Okay, we have to ask ourselves,

Ok, moramo se zapitati,

are we willing to live in a world with slavery?

želimo li živjetu u svijetu u kojem ima ropstva.

If we don't take action, we just leave ourselves open

Ako ne poduzmemo nešto ostajemo izloženi

to have someone else jerk the strings

nekom drugom da povlači konce

that tie us to slavery in the products we buy,

i veže nas uz ropstvo preko proizvoda koje kupujemo

and in our government policies.

i preko politike naših vlada.

And yet, if there's one thing that every human being can agree on,

A opet, ako postoji jedna stvar s kojom se svaki čovjek može složiti,

I think it's that slavery should end.

mislim kako je to da ropstvo treba prestati.

And if there is a fundamental violation

I ako postoji temeljno kršenje

of our human dignity

ljudske slobode

that we would all say is horrific,

za koju bi svi rekli da je užasna

it's slavery.

to je ropstvo.

And we've got to say,

Mi moramo reći

what good is all of our intellectual

što vrijedi sva naša intelektualna

and political and economic power --

i politička i ekonomska moć,

and I'm really thinking intellectual power in this room --

mislim i na intelektuanu moć u ovoj prostoriji,

if we can't use it to bring slavery to an end?

ako je ne možemo upotrijebiti da iskorijenimo ropstvo?

I think there is enough intellectual power in this room

Vjerujem da u ovoj prostoriji ima dovoljno intelektualne moći

to bring slavery to an end.

da iskorijenimo ropstvo.

And you know what? If we can't do that,

I znate što? Ako to ne možemo učiniti,

if we can't use our intellectual power to end slavery,

ako ne možemo iskoristiti svoju intelektualnu snagu da iskorijenimo ropstvo,

there is one last question:

imam posljednje pitanje,

Are we truly free?

jesmo li uistinu slobodni?

Okay, thank you so much.

Hvala vam puno.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)