Steven Pinker: Human nature and the blank slate

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Prevodilac: Ana Stepanenko Lektor: Sandra Gojic
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A year ago, I spoke to you about a book
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Pre godinu dana, pričao sam vam o knjizi
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that I was just in the process of completing,
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čije sam pisanje privodio kraju,
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that has come out in the interim, and I would like to talk to you today
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u međuvremenu, knjiga je objavljena, i danas bih želeo da vam pričam
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about some of the controversies that that book inspired.
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o nekim od kontraverzi koje je izazvala.
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The book is called "The Blank Slate,"
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Naziv knjige je "Prazan list papira",
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based on the popular idea
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po popularnoj ideji
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that the human mind is a blank slate,
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da je ljudski um prazan list papira,
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and that all of its structure comes from
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i da njegova struktura u celini potiče od
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socialization, culture, parenting, experience.
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socijalizacije, kulture, roditeljstva, iskustva.
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The "blank slate" was an influential idea in the 20th century.
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Ideja o "praznom listu papira" bila je uticajna u XX veku.
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Here are a few quotes indicating that:
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Evo nekoliko citata koji to pokazuju:
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"Man has no nature," from the historian
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"Čovek nema posebnu prirodu" rečima istoričara
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Jose Ortega y Gasset;
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Hose Ortege Gaseta
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"Man has no instincts," from the
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"Čovek nema instikte" rečima
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anthropologist Ashley Montagu;
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antropologa Ešli Montag
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"The human brain is capable of a full range of behaviors
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"Ljudski mozak je sposoban za pun opseg ponašanja
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and predisposed to none," from the late scientist Stephen Jay Gould.
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a nije predodređen ni za jedno" prema pokojnom naučniku Stefanu Džej Guldu.
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There are a number of reasons to doubt that the human mind
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Postoje brojni razlozi da se posumnja u to da je ljudski mozak
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is a blank slate,
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prazan list papira,
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and some of them just come from common sense.
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i neki jednostavno proizilaze iz zdravog razuma.
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As many people have told me over the years,
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Kao što mi je mnogo ljudi govorilo godinama unazad,
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anyone who's had more than one child
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svako ko ima više od jednog deteta
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knows that kids come into the world
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zna da deca dolaze na svet
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with certain temperaments and talents;
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sa određenim temperamentom i talentima;
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it doesn't all come from the outside.
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nije sve spoljašnjeg porekla.
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Oh, and anyone who
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O, i svako ko
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has both a child and a house pet
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ima i dete i kućnog ljubimca
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has surely noticed that the child, exposed to speech,
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svakako je primetio da će dete, izloženo govoru,
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will acquire a human language,
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steći ljudski govor,
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whereas the house pet won't,
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dok kućni ljubimac neće,
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presumably because of some innate different between them.
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verovatno zbog neke urođene razlike među njima.
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And anyone who's ever been
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I svako ko je bio
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in a heterosexual relationship knows that
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u heteroseksualnoj vezi zna da
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the minds of men and the minds of women are not indistinguishable.
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umovi muškaraca i umovi žena nisu neraspoznatljivi.
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There are also, I think,
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Takođe smatram da postoji
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increasing results from
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sve više rezultata
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the scientific study of humans
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u naučnom proučavanju ljudskih bića
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that, indeed, we're not born blank slates.
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da se, u stvari, ne rađamo kao prazni listovi papira.
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One of them, from anthropology,
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Jedan takav, iz antropologije,
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is the study of human universals.
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jeste proučavanje ljudskih univerzalija.
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If you've ever taken anthropology, you know that it's a --
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Ako ste ikada učili antropologiju, znate da je
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kind of an occupational
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svojevrsno profesionalno
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pleasure of anthropologists to show
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zadovoljstvo antropologa da pokažu
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how exotic other cultures can be,
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u kojoj meri druge kulture mogu biti egzotične,
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and that there are places out there where, supposedly,
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i kako tamo negde postoje mesta, gde je navodno,
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everything is the opposite to the way it is here.
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sve suprotno onome što je ovde.
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But if you instead
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Ali, ako umesto toga
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look at what is common to the world's cultures,
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pogledate ono šta je zajedničko kulturama u svetu,
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you find that there is an enormously rich set
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nalazite da postoji izuzetno bogata paleta
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of behaviors and emotions
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ponašanja i emocija
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and ways of construing the world
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i načina na koji se konstruiše svet,
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that can be found in all of the world's 6,000-odd cultures.
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koju nalazimo u svim od oko 6000 kultura u svetu.
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The anthropologist Donald Brown has tried to list them all,
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Antropolog Donald Braun pokušao je da ih popiše,
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and they range from aesthetics,
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u rasponu od estetike,
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affection and age statuses
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naklonosti i statusa u zavisnosti od životne dobi,
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all the way down to weaning, weapons, weather,
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pa sve do odvikavanja od majčinog mleka, oružja, vremenskih prilika
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attempts to control, the color white
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i pokušaja da se one kontrolišu, bele boje
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and a worldview.
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i pogleda na svet.
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Also, genetics and neuroscience
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Takođe, genetika i proučavanje nervnog sistema
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are increasingly showing that the brain
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sve više pokazuju da je mozak
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is intricately structured.
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struktura međusobno povezanih delova.
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This is a recent study by the neurobiologist Paul Thompson
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Ovo je nedavna studija neurobiologa Pola Tomsona
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and his colleagues in which they --
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i njegovih kolega u kojoj su --
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using MRI --
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koristeći magnetnu rezonancu --
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measured the distribution of gray matter --
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merili raspodelu sive mase --
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that is, the outer layer of the cortex --
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to jest, spoljašnjeg sloja korteksa --
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in a large sample of pairs of people.
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na velikom uzorku parova ljudi.
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They coded correlations in the thickness
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Oni su označili korelacije u debljini
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of gray matter in different parts of the brain
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sive mase u različitim delovima mozga
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using a false color scheme, in which
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koristeći provizvoljni sistem boja, u kome
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no difference is coded as purple,
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u kome je odsustvo razlike označeno ljubičastom bojom,
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and any color other than purple indicates
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a svaka boja osim ljubičaste ukazuje na
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a statistically significant correlation.
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statistički značajnu korelaciju.
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Well, this is what happens when you pair people up at random.
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Pa, ovo se dobija kada ljude sparite nasumice.
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By definition, two people picked at random
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Po definiciji, dve osobe izabrane nasumice
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can't have correlations in the distribution
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ne mogu imati korelaciju u raspodeli
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of gray matter in the cortex.
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sive mase u korteksu.
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This is what happens in people who share
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Ovo se dobija kod ljudi koji dele
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half of their DNA -- fraternal twins.
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pola svog DNK -- dvojajčanih blizanaca.
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And as you can see, large amounts of the brain
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Kao što vidite, veliki delovi mozga
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are not purple, showing that if one person
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nisu ljubičasti, pokazujući da ako jedna osoba
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has a thicker bit of cortex
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ima deblji deo korteksa
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in that region, so does his fraternal twin.
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u toj regiji, isti je slučaj i sa njegovim dvojajčanim blizancem.
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And here's what happens if you
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A evo šta se dešava ako
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get a pair of people who share all their DNA --
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imate dvoje ljudi koji dele sav svoj DNK --
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namely, clones or identical twins.
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drugim rečima, klonovi ili identični blizanci.
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And you can see huge areas of cortex where there are
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Možete videti velike oblasti korteksa gde postoje
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massive correlations in the distribution of gray matter.
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velike korelacije u raspodeli sive mase.
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Now, these aren't just
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E sada, ovo nisu samo
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differences in anatomy,
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anatomske razlike,
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like the shape of your ear lobes,
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kao što je oblik ušne školjke,
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but they have consequences in thought and behavior
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već imaju posledice na mišljenje i ponašanje
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that are well illustrated in this famous cartoon by Charles Addams:
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koje su dobro ilustrovane u čuvenoj karikaturi Čarlsa Adamsa:
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"Separated at birth, the Mallifert twins meet accidentally."
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"Razdvojeni na rođenju, blizanci Malifert slučajno se sreću."
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As you can see, there are two inventors
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Kao što vidite, to su dva pronalazača
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with identical contraptions in their lap, meeting
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sa istim spravama u krilu, i oni se sreću
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in the waiting room of a patent attorney.
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u čekaonici Zavoda za patente.
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Now, the cartoon is not such an exaggeration, because
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E sad, crtež nije veliko preterivanje, jer
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studies of identical twins who were separated at birth
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studije identičnih blizanaca razdvojenih po rođenju
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and then tested in adulthood
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i potom testiranih u odraslom dobu
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show that they have astonishing similarities.
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pokazuju da imaju zapanjujućih sličnosti.
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And this happens in every pair of identical twins
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I tako je sa svakim parom identičnih blizanaca
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separated at birth ever studied --
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razdvojenim po rođenju, koji je ikada proučavan --
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but much less so with fraternal twins separated at birth.
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ali u mnogo manjoj meri sa dvojajčanim blizancima razdvojenim po rođenju.
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My favorite example is a pair of twins,
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Moj omiljeni primer je par blizanaca,
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one of whom was brought up
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od kojih je jedan vaspitavan
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as a Catholic in a Nazi family in Germany,
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kao katolik u nacističkoj porodici u Nemačkoj,
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the other brought up in a Jewish family in Trinidad.
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a drugi vaspitavan u jevrejskoj porodici u Trinidadu.
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When they walked into the lab in Minnesota,
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Kada su ušetali u laboratoriju u Minesoti,
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they were wearing identical navy blue shirts with epaulettes;
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nosili su iste mornarsko plave košulje sa epoletama,
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both of them liked to dip buttered toast in coffee,
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obojica su volela da umaču tost sa puterom u kafu,
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both of them kept rubber bands around their wrists,
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obojica su nosila gumenu traku oko ručnog zgloba,
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both of them flushed the toilet before using it as well as after,
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obojica su puštala vodu u toaletu i pre i posle korišćenja,
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and both of them liked to surprise people
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i obojica su volela da iznenade ljude
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by sneezing in crowded elevators to watch them jump.
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kijanjem u prepunim liftovima, da bi ih gledali kako se štrecaju.
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Now --
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Sad --
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the story might seem to good to be true,
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može izgledati da je priča predobra da bi bila istinita,
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but when you administer
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ali kada primenite
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batteries of psychological tests,
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baterije psiholoških testova,
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you get the same results -- namely,
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dobijate iste rezultate -- to jest,
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identical twins separated at birth show
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identični blizanci razdvojeni po rođenju pokazuju
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quite astonishing similarities.
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prilično zapanjujuće sličnosti.
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Now, given both the common sense
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Sad, imajući u vidu kako zdrav razum
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and scientific data
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tako i naučne podatke
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calling the doctrine of the blank slate into question,
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koji stavljaju doktrinu praznog lista papira pod znak pitanja,
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why should it have been such an appealing notion?
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zbog čega je to bila tako privlačna ideja?
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Well, there are a number of political reasons why people have found it congenial.
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Pa, brojni su politički razlozi koji su je učinili prihvatljivom.
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The foremost is that if we're blank slates,
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Pre svega, ako smo prazni listovi papira,
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then, by definition, we are equal,
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onda smo, po definiciji, svi jednaki,
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because zero equals zero equals zero.
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budući da je nula jednaka nuli jednaka nuli jednaka nuli.
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But if something is written on the slate,
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Ali ako je nešto ispisano na listu papira,
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then some people could have more of it than others,
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onda bi neki ljudi mogli imati više "nečega" od drugih,
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and according to this line of thinking, that would justify
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i sledeći ovaj način razmišljanja, to bi opravdalo
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discrimination and inequality.
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diskriminaciju i nejednakost.
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Another political fear of human nature
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Naredni politički strah od ljudske prirode
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is that if we are blank slates,
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jeste, da ako smo svi prazni listovi papira,
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we can perfect mankind --
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možemo da usavršimo čovečanstvo --
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the age-old dream of the perfectibility of our species
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večiti san o usavršavanju naše vrste
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through social engineering.
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kroz socijalni inženjering.
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Whereas, if we're born with certain instincts,
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Ako smo pak rođeni sa izvesnim instiktima,
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then perhaps some of them might condemn us
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onda je moguće da nas neki od njih osuđuju na
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to selfishness, prejudice and violence.
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sebičnost, predrasude i nasilje.
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Well, in the book, I argue that these are, in fact, non sequiturs.
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Pa, u knjizi, iznosim gledište da ovo nisu logičke posledice.
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And just to make a long story short:
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Da skratim priču:
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first of all, the concept of fairness
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kao prvo, ideja pravičnosti
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is not the same as the concept of sameness.
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nije isto što i ideja istovetnosti.
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And so when Thomas Jefferson wrote
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Tako da, kada je Tomas Džeferson napisao
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in the Declaration of Independence,
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u Deklaraciji nezavisnosti:
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident,
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"Držimo da su ove istine očigledne,
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that all men are created equal,"
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da su svi ljudi stvoreni jednaki",
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he did not mean "We hold these truths to be self-evident,
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nije mislio "Držimo da su ove istine očigledne,
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that all men are clones."
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da su svi ljudi klonovi".
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Rather, that all men are equal in terms of their rights,
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Pre će biti, da su ljudi jednaki u pogledu prava koja imaju,
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and that every person ought to be treated
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i da se prema svakoj osobi treba ophoditi
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as an individual, and not prejudged
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kao prema individui, a ne unapred o njoj suditi
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by the statistics of particular groups
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na osnovu statističkih podataka o određenim grupama
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that they may belong to.
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kojima eventualno pripada.
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Also, even if we were born
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Takođe, čak i ako smo rođeni
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with certain ignoble motives,
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sa izvesnim niskim motivima,
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they don't automatically lead to ignoble behavior.
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oni ne dovode automatski do niskog ponašanja.
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That is because the human mind
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Ovo stoga što je ljudski um
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is a complex system with many parts,
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složeni sistem sa mnogo delova,
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and some of them can inhibit others.
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gde jedni mogu da blokiraju druge.
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For example, there's excellent reason to believe
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Na primer, ima izvrsnih razloga da se veruje
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that virtually all humans are born with a moral sense,
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da se praktično svi ljudi rađaju sa osećajem za moral,
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and that we have cognitive abilities that allow us
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i da imamo kognitivne sposobnosti koje nam omogućuju
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to profit from the lessons of history.
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da izvučemo korist iz iatorijskih lekcija.
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So even if people did have impulses
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Tako da, čak iako ljudi imaju impulse
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towards selfishness or greed,
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ka sebičnom ili pohlepnom ponašanju,
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that's not the only thing in the skull,
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to nije jedina stvar u lobanji,
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and there are other parts of the mind that can counteract them.
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i ima drugih delova uma koji mogu da im se suprotstave.
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In the book, I
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U knizi, ja
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go over controversies such as this one,
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razmatram ovakve kontraverze,
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and a number of other hot buttons,
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kao i izvesna druga goruća pitanja,
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hot zones, Chernobyls, third rails, and so on --
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vruće teme, eksplozivne, neugodne i tako dalje,
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including the arts, cloning, crime,
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uključujući umetnost, kloniranje, kriminal,
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free will, education, evolution,
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slobodu volje, obrazovanje, evoluciju,
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gender differences, God, homosexuality,
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razlike među polovima, boga, homoseksualnost,
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infanticide, inequality, Marxism, morality,
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čedomorstvo, nejednakost, marksizam, moralnost,
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Nazism, parenting, politics,
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nacizam, roditeljstvo, politiku,
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race, rape, religion, resource depletion,
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rasu, religiju, potrošene resurse,
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social engineering, technological risk and war.
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socijalni inženjering, tehnološki rizik i rat.
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And needless to say, there were certain risks
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Treba li reći, postojao je izvestan rizik
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in taking on these subjects.
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u bavljenju ovim temama.
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When I wrote a first draft of the book,
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Kada sam napisao prvu verziju knjige,
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I circulated it to a number of colleagues for comments,
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prosledio sam je nekim kolegama da daju svoje komentare,
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and here are some of
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a ovo su neke od
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the reactions that I got:
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reakcija koje sam dobio:
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"Better get a security camera for your house."
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"Bolje bi ti bilo da postaviš sigurnosnu kameru u kući."
08:33
"Don't expect to get any more awards, job offers
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"Ne očekuj da ćeš ikad više dobiti nagradu, ponudu za posao
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or positions in scholarly societies."
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ili poziciju u obrazovnim institucijama."
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"Tell your publisher not to list your hometown
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"Reci izdavaču da ne navodi tvoj rodni grad
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in your author bio."
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u biografiji autora."
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"Do you have tenure?"
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"Imaš li stalnu poziciju?"
08:46
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Well, the book came out in October,
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Pa, knjiga je izašla u oktobru,
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and nothing terrible has happened.
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i ništa strašno se nije desilo.
08:55
I -- I like --
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Ja - voleo bih -
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There was indeed reason to be nervous,
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Zaista je bilo razloga za nervozu,
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and there were moments in which I did feel nervous,
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i bilo je trenutaka kada sam osećao nervozu,
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knowing the history
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znajući
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of what has happened to people
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šta se dešavalo ljudima
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who've taken controversial stands
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koji su zauzeli kontraverzne stavove
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or discovered disquieting findings
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ili otkrili uznemiravajuće nalaze
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in the behavioral sciences.
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u bihejvioralnim naukama.
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There are many cases, some of which I talk about in the book,
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Mnogo je slučajeva, o nekima pričam u svojoj knjizi,
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of people who have been slandered, called Nazis,
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ljudi koji su klevetani, nazivani nacistima,
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physically assaulted, threatened with criminal prosecution
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fizički napadani, kojima je prećeno krivičnim gonjenjem
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for stumbling across or arguing
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zato što su naišli na ili raspravljali o
09:27
about controversial findings.
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kontraverznim nalazima.
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And you never know when you're going to
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A nikada se ne zna kada ćete
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come across one of these booby traps.
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naići na neku od ovih smrtonosnih zamki.
09:34
My favorite example is a pair of psychologists
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Moj omiljeni primer su psiholozi
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who did research on left-handers,
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koji su istraživali levoruke,
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and published some data showing that left-handers are, on average,
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i objavili neke podatke koji pokazuju da su levoruki, u proseku,
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more susceptible to disease, more prone to accidents
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podložniji bolestima, skloniji nezgodama
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and have a shorter lifespan.
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i imaju kraći životni vek.
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It's not clear, by the way, since then,
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Uzgred, od tada nije postalo jasnije
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whether that is an accurate generalization,
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da li je ovo ispravna generalizacija,
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but the data at the time seemed to support that.
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ali delovalo je da podaci u tom trenutku podržavaju nalaz.
09:55
Well, pretty soon they were barraged
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Pa, za kratko vreme oni su zasuti
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with enraged letters,
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pismima protesta,
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death threats,
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pretnjama smrću,
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ban on the topic in a number of scientific journals,
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zabranjeno im je pisanje na temu u nekoliko naučnih časopisa,
10:05
coming from irate left-handers
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od strane besnih levorukih ljudi
10:08
and their advocates,
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i njihovih zastupnika,
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and they were literally afraid to open their mail
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i oni su se bukvalno plašili da otvore poštu
10:13
because of the venom and vituperation
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zbog zlobe i zluradih komentara
10:16
that they had inadvertently inspired.
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koje su nenamerno izazvali.
10:19
Well,
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Pa,
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the night is young, but the book has been out
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još je rano, ali knjiga je dostupna već
10:23
for half a year,
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pola godine,
10:25
and nothing terrible has happened.
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i ništa strašno se nije desilo.
10:27
None of the dire professional consequences
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Nikakvih užasnih posledica po karijeru
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has taken place --
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nije bilo --
10:31
I haven't been
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Nisam
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exiled from the city of Cambridge.
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proteran iz grada Kembridža.
10:36
But what I wanted to talk about
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Ali ono o čemu želim da govorim,
10:38
are two of these hot buttons
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jesu dve vruće teme
10:41
that have aroused the strongest response
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koje su izazvale najjači odjek
10:45
in the 80-odd reviews
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u nekih 80-ak kritika
10:47
that The Blank Slate has received.
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koliko je knjiga " Prazan list papira" dobila.
10:50
I'll just put that list up for a few seconds,
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Kratko ću prikazati spisak,
10:53
and see if you can guess which two
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da vidimo da li možete da pogodite koje dve
10:55
-- I would estimate that probably two of these topics
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-- Po mojoj proceni, verovatno su dve teme
10:57
inspired probably 90 percent
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izazvale verovatno 90 procenata
11:00
of the reaction in the various reviews
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reakcija u različitim kritikama
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and radio interviews.
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i radijskim intervjuima.
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It's not violence and war,
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Nisu u pitanju nasilje i rat,
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it's not race, it's not gender,
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nije rasa, nije pol,
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it's not Marxism, it's not Nazism.
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nije marksizam, nije nacizam.
11:12
They are: the arts and parenting.
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To su: umetnost i roditeljstvo.
11:15
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:17
So let me tell you what
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Dozvolite mi da vam ispričam šta je
11:19
aroused such irate responses,
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podstaklo tako besne reakcije,
11:21
and I'll let you decide if whether they --
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i ostaviću vama da odlučite da li su --
11:24
the claims are really that outrageous.
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tvrdnje stvarno tako skandalozne.
11:26
Let me start with the arts.
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Krenuću od umetnosti.
11:29
I note that among the long list of human universals
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Skrećem pažnju da je na dugačkom spisku ljudskih univerzalija
11:31
that I presented a few slides ago
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koji sam predstavio pre par slajdova
11:34
are art.
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i umetnost.
11:36
There is no society ever discovered
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Nikada nije otkriveno društvo
11:39
in the remotest corner of the world that has not had something
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ni u najudaljenijem kutku sveta, koje nije imalo nešto
11:42
that we would consider the arts.
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što možemo smatrati umetnošću.
11:46
Visual arts -- decoration of surfaces and bodies --
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Vizuelna umetnost -- ukrašavanje površina i tela --
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appears to be a human universal.
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izgleda predstavlja ljudsku univerzaliju.
11:50
The telling of stories, music,
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Pričanje priča, muzika,
11:52
dance, poetry -- found in all cultures,
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ples, poezija -- prisutni u svim kulturama,
11:55
and many of the motifs and themes
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i mnogi motivi i teme
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that
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koji
12:01
give us pleasure in the arts
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pružaju uživanje u umetnosti
12:03
can be found in all human societies:
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mogu se naći u svim ljudskim zajednicama:
12:07
a preference for symmetrical forms,
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preferencija simetričnih formi,
12:10
the use of repetition and variation,
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upotreba ponavljanja i variranja,
12:12
even things as specific as the fact
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čak i pojedinosti tipa
12:14
that in poetry all over the world,
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da u poeziji svuda u svetu,
12:16
you have lines that are very close
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stihovi su vrlo blizu
12:19
to three seconds long, separated by pauses.
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trajanju od tri sekunde, razdvojeni pauzama.
12:22
Now, on the other hand,
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Sad, sa druge strane,
12:24
in the second half of the 20th century,
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u drugoj polovini XX veka,
12:26
the arts are frequently said to be in decline.
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često se moglo čuti da je umetnost u opadanju.
12:29
And I have a collection,
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A imam i kolekciju
12:31
probably 10 or 15 headlines, from highbrow magazines
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otprilike 10 do 15 naslova, iz prestižnih časopisa
12:34
deploring the fact that
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gde se lamentira nad činjenicom
12:36
the arts are in decline in our time.
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da je umetnost u opadanju u današnje vreme.
12:39
I'll give you a couple of representative quotes:
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Daću vam nekoliko tipičnih citata:
12:42
"We can assert with some confidence that our own period is
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"Možemo sa izvesnom sigurnošću zaključiti da je naše vreme
12:44
one of decline, that the standards of culture are lower
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vreme opadanja, da su kulturni standardi niži
12:47
than they were 50 years ago, and that the evidences of this decline
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nego što su bili pre 50 godina, i da su dokazi opadanja
12:50
are visible in every department of human activity."
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vidljivi u svim oblicima ljudske delatnosti."
12:53
That's a quote from T. S. Eliot, a little more than 50 years ago.
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Ovo je citat T.S.Eliota, od pre nešto više od 50 godina.
12:56
And a more recent one:
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Evo i jednog skorašnjeg:
12:58
"The possibility of sustaining high culture in our time
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"Mogućnost održavanja visoke kulture u današnjem vremenu
13:00
is becoming increasing problematical.
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sve se više dovodi u pitanje."
13:03
Serious book stores are losing their franchise,
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Ozbiljne knjižare gube svoje objekte,
13:05
nonprofit theaters are surviving primarily
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neprofitna pozorišta opstaju pre svega
13:07
by commercializing their repertory,
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kroz komercijalizaciju svojih repertoara,
13:09
symphony orchestras are diluting their programs,
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simfonijski orkestri razvodnjavaju svoje programe,
13:11
public television is increasing its dependence
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javni TV servis sve više zavisi
13:13
on reruns of British sitcoms,
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od repriza britanskih humorističkih serija,
13:16
classical radio stations are dwindling,
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radio stanice koje puštaju klasičnu muziku se gase,
13:18
museums are resorting to blockbuster shows, dance is dying."
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muzeji posežu za hit postavkama, ples izumire."
13:20
That's from Robert Brustein,
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Ovo su reči Roberta Brustejna,
13:22
the famous drama critic and director,
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poznatog pozorišnog kritičara i reditelja,
13:25
in The New Republic about five years ago.
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u Novoj republici pre oko pet godina.
13:28
Well, in fact, the arts are not in decline.
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Pa, zapravo, umetnost nije u opadanju.
13:31
I don't think this will as a surprise to anyone in this room,
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Ne mislim da će ovo iznenaditi bilo koga u ovoj sali,
13:34
but by any standard
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ali po bilo kom kriterijumu
13:36
they have never been flourishing
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ona se nikada nije razvijala
13:38
to a greater extent.
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u većoj meri.
13:40
There are, of course, entirely new art forms
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Postoje, naravno, potpuno nove umetničke forme
13:43
and new media, many of which you've heard
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i novi mediji, o mnogima od njih smo čuli
13:45
over these few days.
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u ovih nekoliko dana.
13:48
By any economic standard,
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Po bilo kom ekonomskom kriterijumu
13:50
the demand for art of all forms
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potražnja za svim formama umetnosti
13:53
is skyrocketing,
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je u naglom porastu,
13:55
as you can tell from the price of opera tickets,
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što se da videti iz cena karata za operu,
13:57
by the number of books sold,
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po broju prodatih knjiga,
13:59
by the number of books published,
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po broju izdatih knjiga,
14:01
the number of musical titles released,
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broju muzičkih naslova koji izlaze,
14:04
the number of new albums and so on.
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broju novih albuma i tako dalje.
14:07
The only grain of truth to this
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Jedino zrno istine u
14:09
complaint that the arts are in decline
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primedbi da je umetnost u opadanju
14:11
come from three spheres.
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dolazi iz tri sfere.
14:15
One of them is in elite art since the 1930s --
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Jedna je elitna umetnost od 1930-tih --
14:18
say, the kinds of works performed
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recimo, vrsta dela koje izvode
14:20
by major symphony orchestras,
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vodeći simfonijski orkestri,
14:22
where most of the repertory is before 1930,
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gde je veći deo repertoara iz perioda pre 1930-te,
14:26
or the works shown in
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ili dela koja se izlažu u
14:28
major galleries and prestigious museums.
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vodećim galerijama i prestižnim muzejima.
14:32
In literary criticism and analysis,
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U literarnoj kritici i analizi,
14:34
probably 40 or 50 years ago,
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pre možda 40 ili 50 godina,
14:36
literary critics were a kind of cultural hero;
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književni kritičari su bili neka vrsta kulturnih heroja;
14:39
now they're kind of a national joke.
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danas su neka vrsta narodne šale.
14:41
And the humanities and arts programs
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I programi studija umetnosti i kulture
14:44
in the universities, which by many measures,
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na univerzitetima, koji su po mnogim parametrima
14:46
indeed are in decline.
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zaista u opadanju.
14:48
Students are staying away in droves,
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Studenti ih masovno zaobilaze,
14:50
universities are disinvesting
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univerziteti smanjuju ulaganja
14:52
in the arts and humanities.
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u oblasti umetnosti i kulture.
14:54
Well, here's a diagnosis.
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Pa, evo dijagnoze.
14:57
They didn't ask me, but by their own admission,
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Nisu me pitali, ali prema sopstvenom priznanju,
14:59
they need all the help that they can get.
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potrebna im je svaka pomoć koju mogu da dobiju.
15:02
And I would like to suggest that it's not a coincidence
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Ja iznosim pretpostavku da nije slučajno
15:04
that this supposed decline
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da se navodni pad
15:06
in the elite arts and criticism
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u elitnoj umetnosti i kritici
15:09
occurred in the same point in history in which
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desio u istom istorijskom trenutku u kojem
15:11
there was a widespread denial of human nature.
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se dešava rasprostranjeno poricanje ljudske prirode.
15:14
A famous quotation can be found --
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Možemo naći i poznati citat --
15:16
if you look on the web, you can find it in
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ako pogledate na internetu, možete ga naći u
15:18
literally scores
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mnogim
15:20
of English core syllabuses --
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kursevima engleske književnosti --
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"In or about December 1910,
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"U ili oko decembra 1910,
15:26
human nature changed."
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ljudska priroda se promenila."
15:28
A paraphrase of a quote by Virginia Woolf,
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Ovo je parafraza citata Virdžinije Vulf
15:31
and there's some debate
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i postoji izvesno neslaganje
15:33
as to what she actually meant by that.
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oko toga šta je zapravo time mislila.
15:35
But it's very clear, looking at these syllabuses,
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Ali je vrlo jasno, gledajući ove kurseve,
15:37
that -- it's used now
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da -- se danas kaže
15:39
as a way of saying that all forms
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kako su svi oblici
15:43
of appreciation of art
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uvažavanja umetnosti
15:45
that were in place for centuries, or millennia,
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koji su trajali vekovima ili milenijumima,
15:49
in the 20th century were discarded.
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u XX veku odbačeni.
15:52
The beauty and pleasure in art --
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Lepota i zadovoljstvo u umetnosti --
15:54
probably a human universal --
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verovatno ljudska univerzalija --
15:56
were -- began to be considered saccharine,
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su -- počele su se smatrati šećernom vodicom,
15:58
or kitsch, or commercial.
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ili kičem, ili komercijalom.
16:01
Barnett Newman had a famous quote that "the impulse of modern art
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Barnet Njuman autor je poznatog citata da je impuls moderne umetnosti
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is the desire to destroy beauty" --
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želja da se uništi lepota,
16:07
which was considered bourgeois or tacky.
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koja je viđena kao buržujska ili neukusna.
16:10
And here's just one example.
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Evo samo jednog primera.
16:12
I mean, this is perhaps a representative example
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Hoću reći, ovo je verovatno reprezentativni primer
16:15
of the visual depiction of the female form
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vizuelnog predstavljanja ženske forme
16:18
in the 15th century;
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u XV veku;
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here is a representative example
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ovo je reprezentativni primer
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of the depiction of the female form in the 20th century.
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predstavljanja ženske forme u XX veku.
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And, as you can see, there -- something has changed
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I, kao što vidite, tu -- nešto se promenilo
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in the way the elite arts
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u načinu na koji elitna umetnost
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appeal to the senses.
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teži da deluje na čula.
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Indeed, in movements of modernism
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Zaista, u pravcima moderne
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and post-modernism,
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i post-moderne,
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there was visual art without beauty,
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vizuelna umetnost bila je bez lepote,
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literature without narrative and plot,
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literatura bez narativa i zapleta,
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poetry without meter and rhyme,
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poezija bez metra i rime,
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architecture and planning without ornament,
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arhitektura i urbanizam bez ornamenata,
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human scale, green space and natural light,
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ljudske mere, zеlenila i prirodnog osvetljenja,
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music without melody and rhythm,
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muzika bez melodije i ritma,
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and criticism without clarity,
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kritika bez jasnoće,
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attention to aesthetics and insight into the human condition.
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obraćanja pažnje na estetiku i uvida u to šta znači biti čovek.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Let me give just you an example to back up that last statement.
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Daću vam primer da potkrepim poslednju tvrdnju.
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But here, there -- one of the most famous literary
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Ovde, tu -- jedan od najpoznatijih stručnjaka za
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English scholars of our time
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književnost na engleskom jeziku našeg doba
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is the Berkeley professor,
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profesor na Berkliju,
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Judith Butler.
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Džudit Batler.
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And here is an example of
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Evo primera
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one of her analyses:
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jedne od njenih analiza:
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"The move from a structuralist account in which capital
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"Prelazak sa strukturalističkog pristupa gde se smatra
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is understood to structure social relations
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da kapital uređuje socijalne odnose
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in relatively homologous ways
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relativno homogeno,
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to a view of hegemony in which power relations are subject to repetition,
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na hegemonističko gledište gde su odnosi snaga podložni ponavljanju,
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convergence and rearticulation
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koncencentrisanju i preformulisanju
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brought the question of temporality into the thinking of structure,
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uveo je pitanje privremenosti u razmatranje strukture,
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and marked a shift from the form of Althusserian theory
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i označio prelazak sa jednog oblika altiserijanske teorije
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that takes structural totalities as theoretical objects ..."
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koja posmatra strukturalne totalitete kao teoretske objekte..."
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Well, you get the idea.
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Pa, shvatate o čemu se radi.
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By the way, this is one sentence --
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Uzgred, ovo je jedna rečenica --
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you can actually parse it.
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može da posluži za analizu rečenice.
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Well, the argument in "The Blank Slate"
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Pa, argument u "Praznom listu papira"
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was that elite art and criticism
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ja da su elitna umetnost i kritika
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in the 20th century,
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u XX veku,
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although not the arts in general,
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mada ne i umetnost u celosti,
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have disdained beauty, pleasure,
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prezreli lepotu, zadovoljstvo,
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clarity, insight and style.
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jasno izražavanje, uvid i stil.
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People are staying away from elite art and criticism.
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Ljudi se klone elitne umetnosti i kritike.
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What a puzzle -- I wonder why.
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Prava zagonetka -- Pitam se zašto?
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Well, this turned out to be probably
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Pa, ispostavilo se da je ovo verovatno
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the most controversial claim in the book.
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najkontraverznija tvrdnja u knjizi.
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Someone asked me whether I stuck it in
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Neko me pitao da li sam je ubacio
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in order to deflect ire
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da bi skrenuo gnev
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from discussions of gender and Nazism
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dalje od rasprava o polu, nacizmu,
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and race and so on. I won't comment on that.
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rasi i sličnom. To neću komentarisati.
18:16
But it certainly inspired
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Ali svakako je izazvalo
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an energetic reaction
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žustru reakciju
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from many university professors.
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mnogih univerzitetskih profesora.
18:25
Well, the other hot button is parenting.
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Pa, druga vruća tema je roditeljstvo.
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And the starting point is the -- for that discussion
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A početna tačka je -- u toj diskusiji
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was the fact that we have all
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činjenica da smo svi
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been subject to the advice
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izloženi savetima
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of the parenting industrial complex.
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industrijskog kompleksa roditeljstva.
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Now, here is -- here is a
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Sad, ovde -- ovde imamo
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representative quote from a besieged mother:
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reprezentativni citat zabezeknute majke:
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"I'm overwhelmed with parenting advice.
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"Preplavljena sam savetima za roditelje.
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I'm supposed to do lots of physical activity with my kids
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Trebalo bi da podstičem fizičku aktivnost kod dece
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so I can instill in them a physical fitness habit
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da bih razvila navike fizičkog vežbanja
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so they'll grow up to be healthy adults.
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kako bi izrasli u zdrave pojedince.
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And I'm supposed to do all kinds of intellectual play
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I trebalo bi da igramo raznorazne intelektualne igre
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so they'll grow up smart.
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kako bi postali pametni.
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And there are all kinds of play -- clay for finger dexterity,
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I ima raznih igara -- glina za veštinu prstiju,
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word games for reading success, large motor play,
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igre rečima za veštinu čitanja, igre za grubu motoriku,
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small motor play. I feel like I could devote my life
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igre za finu motoriku. Osećam da bih mogla da posvetim ceo život
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to figuring out what to play with my kids."
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otkrivanju kako da se igram sa svojom decom."
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I think anyone who's recently been a parent can sympathize
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Smatram da svako ko je nedavno bio roditelj saoseća
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with this mother.
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sa ovom majkom.
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Well, here's some sobering facts about parenting.
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Pa, evo nekih otrežnjujućih činjenica o roditeljstvu.
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Most studies of parenting on which this advice is based
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Većina istraživanja roditeljstva na kojima počivaju ovi saveti
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are useless. They're useless because they don't control
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su beskorisna. Beskorisna su stoga što ne drže pod kontrolom
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for heritability. They measure some correlation
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nasledni faktor. Ona mere izvesnu korelaciju
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between what the parents do, how the children turn out
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između onoga što roditelji čine, kako deca ispadnu
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and assume a causal relation:
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i pretpostavljaju uzročnu vezu:
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that the parenting shaped the child.
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da je roditeljski stil oblikovao dete.
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Parents who talk a lot to their kids
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Roditelji koji puno pričaju deci
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have kids who grow up to be articulate,
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imaji decu koja se dobro izražavaju kada odrastu,
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parents who spank their kids have kids who grow up
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roditelji koji tuku decu imaju decu koja izrastaju
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to be violent and so on.
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u nasilne ljude i tako dalje.
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And very few of them control for the possibility
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Ali mali je broj onih koji drže pod kontrolom mogućnost
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that parents pass on genes for --
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da roditelji prenose gene za --
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that increase the chances a child will be articulate
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koji uvećavaju šansu da će dete umeti da se izražava,
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or violent and so on.
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biti nasilno i tako dalje.
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Until the studies are redone with adoptive children,
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Sve dok se istraživanja ne ponove sa usvojenom decom,
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who provide an environment
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gde je stvorena sredina
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but not genes to their kids,
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ali deci nisu preneti geni,
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we have no way of knowing whether these conclusions are valid.
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nema načina da se zna da li su ovi zaključci validni.
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The genetically controlled studies
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Istraživanja sa kontrolom genetskog faktora
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have some sobering results.
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daju otrežnjujuće rezultate.
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Remember the Mallifert twins:
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Sećate se Malifert blizanaca:
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separated at birth, then they meet in the patent office --
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razdvojeni po rođenju, sreću se u Zavodu za patente --
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remarkably similar.
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zadivljujuće slični.
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Well, what would have happened if the Mallifert twins had grown up together?
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Pa, šta bi se desilo da su Malifert blizanci odrasli zajedno?
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You might think, well, then they'd be even more similar,
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Mogli biste pomisliti, pa, bili bi još sličniji,
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because not only would they share their genes,
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jer ne samo da bi imali iste gene,
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but they would also share their environment.
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nego bi imali istu sredinu.
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That would make them super-similar, right?
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To bi ih učinilo super-sličnim, zar ne?
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Wrong. Identical twins, or any siblings,
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Ne. Identični blizanci, ili bilo koja deca istih roditelja,
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who are separated at birth are no less similar
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razdvojeni po rođenju nisu nikako manje slična
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than if they had grown up together.
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nego da su rasla zajedno.
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Everything that happens to you in a given home
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Sve što ti se dešava u porodičnom domu
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over all of those years
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tokom svih tih godina
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appears to leave no permanent stamp
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izgleda ne ostavlja nikakav trajni pečat
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on your personality or intellect.
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na tvoju ličnost i intelekt.
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A complementary finding, from a completely different methodology,
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Nalaz u skladu sa tim, postignut potpuno drugačijom metodologijom
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is that adopted siblings reared together --
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je da usvojena deca, odgajana zajedno --
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the mirror image of identical twins reared apart,
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slika u ogledalu identičnih blizanaca odgajanih odvojeno,
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they share their parents, their home,
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oni imaju iste roditelje, isti dom,
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their neighborhood,
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isti komšiluk,
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don't share their genes -- end up not similar at all.
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nemaju iste gene -- na kraju nisu nimalo slični.
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OK -- two different bodies of research with a similar finding.
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OK -- dva različita pravca u istraživanju sa sličnim nalazima.
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What it suggests is that children are shaped
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Ono što se nameće je da se deca oblikuju
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not by their parents over the long run,
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ne dugogodišnjim uticajem roditelja,
21:06
but in part -- only in part -- by their genes,
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već delimično -- samo delimično -- nihovim genima,
21:09
in part by their culture --
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delimično kulturom --
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the culture of the country at large
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kulturom zemlje u širem planu
21:13
and the children's own culture, namely their peer group --
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i samom dečijom kulturom, zapravo vršnjačkom kulturom --
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as we heard from Jill Sobule earlier today,
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kao što smo danas već čuli od Džil Sobul
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that's what kids care about --
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to je ono do čega je deci stalo --
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and, to a very large extent, larger than most people are prepared to acknowledge,
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i, u velikoj meri, većoj nego što je večina ljudi spremna da prizna,
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by chance: chance events in the wiring of the brain in utero;
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slučajem: slučajni događaji u povezivanju mozga u materici;
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chance events as you live your life.
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slučajni događaju tokom života.
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So let me conclude
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Da zaključim
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with just a remark
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jednom konstatacijom
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to bring it back to the theme of choices.
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kojom se vraćam na temu izbora.
21:38
I think that the sciences of human nature --
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Mislim da će nauke o ljudskoj prirodi --
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behavioral genetics, evolutionary psychology,
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bihejvioralna genetika, evoluciona psihologija,
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neuroscience, cognitive science --
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nauka o nervnom sistemu, kognitivna nauka --
21:45
are going to, increasingly in the years to come,
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u sve većoj meri u godinama koje dolaze,
21:48
upset various dogmas,
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potresti različite dogme,
21:51
careers and deeply-held political belief systems.
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karijere i duboko uvrežene sisteme političkog verovanja.
21:54
And that presents us with a choice.
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A to nas stavlja pred izbor.
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The choice is whether certain facts about humans,
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Izbor je da se izvesne činjenice o ljudskim bićima,
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or topics, are to be considered taboos,
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ili teme, smatraju za tabu,
22:03
forbidden knowledge, where we shouldn't go there
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zabranjeno znanje, u šta ne treba zalaziti
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because no good can come from it,
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jer ništa dobro iz toga ne može da izađe,
22:07
or whether we should explore them honestly.
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ili da se one otvoreno istraže.
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I have my own
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Ja imam sopstveni
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answer to that question,
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odgovor na to pitanje,
22:14
which comes from a great artist of the 19th century,
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koji potiče od velikog umetnika XIX veka,
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Anton Chekhov, who said,
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Antona Čehova, koji je rekao:
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"Man will become better when you show him
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"Čovek će postati bolji kada mu pokažeš
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what he is like."
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kakav jeste."
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And I think that the argument
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I mislim da je argument
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can't be put any more eloquently than that.
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ovim najbolje izražen.
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Thank you very much.
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Ja vam se zahvaljujem.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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