Israel and Iran: A love story?

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

00:00
Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Gemma Lee ๊ฒ€ํ† : Gabriel Song
00:15
On March 14, this year,
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์˜ฌํ•ด 3์›” 14์ผ
00:18
I posted this poster on Facebook.
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์ „ ์ด ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ์— ์˜ฌ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:21
This is an image of me and my daughter
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์ด๊ฑด ์ €๋ž‘ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ๊ตญ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค๊ณ ์žˆ๋Š”
00:23
holding the Israeli flag.
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์ œ ๋”ธ์˜ ์‚ฌ์ง„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:26
I will try to explain to you about the context of why
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฑธ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฐ ์ด์œ ์™€ ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ์„
00:29
and when I posted.
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์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:32
A few days ago, I was sitting waiting
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๋ฉฐ์น  ์ „์—, ์‹๋ฃŒํ’ˆ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์—์„œ ์ค„์„ ์„œ์„œ
00:35
on the line at the grocery store,
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๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
00:37
and the owner and one of the clients
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๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ์ธ๊ณผ ์†๋‹˜์ด ์„œ๋กœ
00:41
were talking to each other,
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์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
00:42
and the owner was explaining to the client
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๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ์ธ์€ ์†๋‹˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์—
00:44
that we're going to get 10,000 missiles on Israel.
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1๋งŒ๊ฐœ์˜ ๋ฏธ์‚ฌ์ผ์ด ๋‚ ์•„์˜ฌ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์–˜๊ธฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
00:48
And the client was saying, no, it's 10,000 a day.
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๊ทธ๋žฌ๋”๋‹ˆ ์†๋‹˜์€ "์•„๋‹ˆ, ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— 1๋งŒ๊ฐœ๊ฒ ์ฃ ."๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:53
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
00:55
("10,000 missiles") This is the context. This is where we are now in Israel.
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(1๋งŒ๊ฐœ์˜ ๋ฏธ์‚ฌ์ผ) ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์˜ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด์—์š”.
01:00
We have this war with Iran coming for 10 years now,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ฌํ•ด๋กœ 10๋…„ ์งธ ์ด๋ž€๊ณผ ์ „์Ÿ์„ ๋ฒŒ์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:04
and we have people, you know, afraid.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ณตํฌ์— ๋–จ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ฃ .
01:07
It's like every year it's the last minute
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ํ•ด๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ด๋ž€๊ณผ์˜ ์ „์Ÿ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
01:11
that we can do something about the war with Iran.
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:13
It's like, if we don't act now, it's too late forever,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‚˜์„œ์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋Šฆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
01:17
for 10 years now.
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์ง€๊ธˆ 10๋…„์งธ์ž–์•„์š”.
01:19
So at some point it became, you know, to me,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋Š ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ๋ถ€ํ„ด๊ฐ€
01:22
I'm a graphic designer, so I made posters about it
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๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ์ธ ์ €๋Š”์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์„œ
01:25
and I posted the one I just showed you before.
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์•„๊นŒ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฐ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์˜ฌ๋ ธ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ง€์š”.
01:29
Most of the time, I make posters, I post them on Facebook,
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ์— ์˜ฌ๋ฆด ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค,
01:32
my friends like it, don't like it,
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์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์€ ์ข‹์•„์š”๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋„ค ๋งˆ๋„ค,
01:33
most of the time don't like it, don't share it,
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š๊ณ ,๊ณต์œ ๋„ ์•ˆํ•˜๊ณ 
01:35
don't nothing,
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์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ฃ .
01:37
and it's another day.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚˜๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:39
So I went to sleep, and that was it for me.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ž ์„ ์ž๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋งŒ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
01:43
And later on in the night, I woke up
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋Š๋‚  ๋ฐค, ์ €๋Š” ์ž ์—์„œ ๊นผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:46
because I'm always waking up in the night,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ๋ฐค์— ์ž ์ด ๊นจ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
01:48
and I went by the computer and I see all these red dots,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ „ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ผฐ๊ณ  ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ์—์„œ
01:51
you know, on Facebook, which I've never seen before.
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์ „์— ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๋˜ ์ด ๋นจ๊ฐ„ ์ ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:54
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
01:55
And I was like, "What's going on?"
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"์–ด? ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด์ง€?" ์ด๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด์„œ
01:57
So I come to the computer and I start looking on,
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์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ž์„ธํžˆ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์˜€๊ณ ,
02:01
and suddenly I see many people talking to me,
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํ•œํ…Œ ๋ง์„ ๊ฑฐ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:04
most of them I don't know,
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
02:06
and a few of them from Iran,
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๋ช‡๋ช‡ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋ž€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
02:09
which is -- What?
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์ด๊ฑด -- ์ •๋ง ๋ญ์ง€?
02:12
Because you have to understand,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์•„์…”์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:15
in Israel we don't talk with people from Iran.
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์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด๋ž€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:18
We don't know people from Iran.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ž€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:20
It's like, on Facebook, you have friends only from --
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์€ ๋ณดํ†ต --
02:25
it's like your neighbors are your friends on Facebook.
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์ฃผ๋กœ ๋™๋„ค ์ด์›ƒ๋“ค์ด ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ์—์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋œ์ž–์•„์š”.
02:28
And now people from Iran are talking to me.
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๊ทผ๋ฐ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์ด๋ž€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋ง์„ ๊ฑธ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:31
So I start answering this girl, and she's telling me
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์–ด๋–ค ์†Œ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ต์žฅํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:34
she saw the poster and she asked her family to come,
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค์„ ๋ถˆ๋ €๋Š”๋ฐ,
02:39
because they don't have a computer, she asked her family
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์—†์–ด์„œ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
02:41
to come to see the poster, and they're all sitting in the living room crying.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค์„ ๋ถˆ๋ €๊ณ , ์˜จ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ๊ฑฐ์‹ค์— ์•‰์•„ ์šธ๋ฉด์„œ ๊ทธ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋ดค๋Œ€์š”.
02:45
So I'm like, whoa.
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์ „ ์ •๋ง, ์šฐ์™€, ์ด๋žฌ์ฃ .
02:47
I ask my wife to come, and I tell her, you have to see that.
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์ „ ์•„๋‚ด๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ๋Ÿฌ์„œ ์ด๊ฑธ ์ข€ ๋ณด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
02:50
People are crying, and she came, she read the text,
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"์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์šธ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค", ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์™€์„œ ๊ธ€์„ ๋ณด๋”๋‹ˆ,
02:54
and she started to cry.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋„ ์šธ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:56
And everybody's crying now. (Laughter)
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์ด์ œ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์šธ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. (์›ƒ์Œ)
02:59
So I don't know what to do, so my first reflex,
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๋ญ˜ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋”๋ผ๊ณ ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅธ๊ฒŒ
03:02
as a graphic designer, is, you know, to show everybody
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๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ๋กœ์„œ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณธ ๊ฑธ
03:05
what I'd just seen, and people started to see them
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๋ณด์—ฌ์ค˜์•ผ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋ณด๊ณ 
03:09
and to share them, and that's how it started.
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๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ฒ ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:11
The day after, when really it became a lot of talking,
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์ •๋ง ๋งŽ์€ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‚œ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‚ ์—,
03:15
I said to myself, and my wife said to me,
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์ „ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธธ,
03:17
I also want a poster,
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๊ทธ๋…€๋„ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ฐ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
03:18
so this is her. (Laughter)
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์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ œ ์•„๋‚ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. (์›ƒ์Œ)
03:22
Because it's working, put me in a poster now.
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ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์ž๊ธฐ๋„ ์ด์ œํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ฐ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ตฌ์š”.
03:27
But more seriously, I was like, okay, these ones work,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š”, ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด๊ฒƒ๋„ ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
03:30
but it's not just about me, it's about people from Israel
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋งŒ ๊ตญํ•œ๋œ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ž–์•„์š”.์ด๊ฑด ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€
03:33
who want to say something.
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์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:34
So I'm going to shoot all the people I know, if they want,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ฐ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์›ํ•˜๋ฉด์š”.
03:37
and I'm going to put them in a poster and I'm going to share them.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์„œ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:39
So I went to my neighbors and friends and students
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ „ ์ œ ์ด์›ƒ๋“ค, ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์„œ
03:43
and I just asked them, give me a picture, I will make you a poster.
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์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์ฃผ๋ฉด ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด ์ฃผ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:47
And that's how it started. And that's how, really,
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ
03:50
it's unleashed, because suddenly people
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๋ฐ˜์‘์ด ์—„์ฒญ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
03:53
from Facebook, friends and others,
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ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ์—์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ„๋“ค๊นŒ์ง€๋„
03:56
just understand that they can be part of it.
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๊ทธ๋“ค๋„ ๋™์ฐธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
03:59
It's not just one dude making one poster,
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ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ•œ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
04:00
it's -- we can be part of it, so they start sending me pictures
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ œ๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ 
04:04
and ask me, "Make me a poster. Post it.
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"์ ˆ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์„œ ์˜ฌ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”." ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์—์š”.
04:06
Tell the Iranians we from Israel love you too."
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"์ด๋ž€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ๋“ค์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”."
04:11
It became, you know, at some point it was really, really intense.
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์ •๋ง ์–ด๋–จ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋ฐ˜์‘์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด, ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:14
I mean, so many pictures, so I asked friends
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์•„์ฃผ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค์ด ์™”์–ด์š”.๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ถ€ํƒํ•ด์„œ
04:19
to come, graphic designers most of them,
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์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ๋“ค์ธ๋ฐ
04:22
to make posters with me, because I didn't have the time.
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์ €์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์ž๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์—†์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
04:24
It was a huge amount of pictures.
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์ •๋ง ์–ด๋งˆ์–ด๋งˆํ•œ ์–‘์˜ ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:27
So for a few days, that's how my living room was.
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๋ฉฐ์น ๋™์•ˆ ์ €ํฌ ์ง‘ ๊ฑฐ์‹ค์€ ์ด๋žฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:30
And we received Israeli posters, Israeli images,
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์ €ํฐ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ์™€ ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค ๋ง๊ณ ๋„
04:35
but also lots of comments, lots of messages from Iran.
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๋งŽ์€ ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋“ค ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋ž€์—์„œ ์˜จ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฉ”์„ธ์ง€๋“ค์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์ฃ .
04:40
And we took these messages and we made posters out of it,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ๋ฉ”์„ธ์ง€๋ฅผ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:43
because I know people: They don't read, they see images.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ธ€์„ ์ฝ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๋ณด์ž–์•„์š”.
04:47
If it's an image, they may read it.
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์‚ฌ์ง„์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ฝ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
04:50
So here are a few of them.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:52
("You are my first Israelian friend. I wish we both get rid of our idiot politicians, anyway nice to see you!")
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("๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ œ ์ฒซ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘ ๋‚˜๋ผ์— ๋ฉ์ฒญํ•œ ์ •์น˜์ธ๋“ค์ด ์—†์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ์–ด์š”. ์•„๋ฌดํŠผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!")
04:55
("I love that blue. I love that star. I love that flag.") This one is really moving for me because it's the story
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("ํŒŒ๋ž€์ƒ‰์ด ์˜ˆ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ณ„๋„์š”. ๊ทธ ๊นƒ๋ฐœ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.")์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ๋™์ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ด ์–˜๊ธฐ๋Š”
04:58
of a girl who has been raised in Iran
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์ด๋ž€์—์„œ ์ž๋ž€ ์–ด๋–ค ์†Œ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋งค์ผ ์•„์นจ ํ•™๊ต ๋“ฑ๊ต๊ธธ์—
05:02
to walk on an Israeli flag to enter her school every morning,
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์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ๊นƒ๋ฐœ์„ ๋ฐŸ๊ณ ํ•™๊ต ์ •๋ฌธ์„ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
05:07
and now that she sees the posters that we're sending,
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์ด์ œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋‚ธ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ 
05:11
she starts -- she said that she changed her mind,
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๊ทธ๋…€์˜ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ๋‹ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:13
and now she loves that blue, she loves that star,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด์   ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ๊ตญ๊ธฐ์˜ ๊ทธ ํŒŒ๋ž€์ƒ‰๊ณผ, ๋ณ„๊ณผ
05:17
and she loves that flag, talking about the Israeli flag,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๊ตญ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ, ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์˜ ๊ตญ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
05:19
and she wished that we'd meet and come to visit one another,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฒซ ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚œ ๋ฉฐ์น  ๋’ค์—
05:23
and just a few days after I posted the first poster.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ, ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์›ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:28
The day after,
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๊ทธ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‚ ,
05:31
Iranians started to respond with their own posters.
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์ด๋ž€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ž๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋“  ํฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๋กœ ๋‹ต์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:33
They have graphic designers. What? (Laughter)
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์ด๋ž€์—๋„ ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ ์š”. ๋ญ์ง€? (์›ƒ์Œ)
05:37
Crazy, crazy.
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๋ฏธ์ณค์ฃ , ๋ฏธ์ณค์ฃ .
05:39
So you can see they are still shy, they don't want to show their faces,
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์•„์ง๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ˆ˜์ค์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ
05:43
but they want to spread the message.
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๋ฉ”์„ธ์ง€๋ฅผ ํผ๋œจ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:44
They want to respond. They want to say the same thing.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ต์„ ํ•ด์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฑฐ์—์š”.๊ฐ™์€ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:46
So. And now it's communication.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ. ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์†Œํ†ต์ด์ฃ .
05:49
It's a two-way story. It's Israelis and Iranians
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์–‘๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์ด๋ž€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
05:53
sending the same message, one to each other.
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์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฉ”์„ธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:55
("My Israeli Friends. I don't hate you. I don't want War.")
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("๋‚ด ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ์—ฌ. ๋‚œ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ „์Ÿ์„ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”.")
05:57
This never happened before, and this is two people
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์ด๊ฑด ์ „๋ก€์—†๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.์ด ๋‘ ๋ฏผ์กฑ์€
06:01
supposed to be enemies, we're on the verge of a war,
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์ ์ด์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ „์Ÿ์ด ๋ฒŒ์–ด์งˆ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ธ๋ฐ
06:04
and suddenly people on Facebook are starting to say,
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
06:07
"I like this guy. I love those guys."
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"๋‚œ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ข‹์•„. ์ € ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ข‹์•„."
06:11
And it became really big at some point.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด๋–ค ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ์ •๋ง ํฐ ์ผ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:15
And then it became news.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‰ด์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
06:19
Because when you're seeing the Middle East, you see only the bad news.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‰ด์Šค์—์„œ ์ค‘๋™๋ฉด์„ ๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ ๋Š˜ ๋‚˜์œ ๋‰ด์Šค๋งŒ ๋ณด์‹œ์ž–์•„์š”.
06:23
And suddenly, there is something that was happening
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์ข‹์€ ๋‰ด์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์˜ค๊ธฐ
06:25
that was good news. So the guys on the news,
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์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‰ด์Šค ๊ด€๊ณ„์ž ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
06:28
they say, "Okay, let's talk about this."
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"๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•ด๋ด์•ผ๊ฒ ๋‹ค." ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•œ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
06:30
And they just came, and it was so much,
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๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋‰ด์Šค ๊ด€๊ณ„์ž๋“ค์ด ์™”๊ณ , ์ผ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์ปค์กŒ์–ด์š”.
06:33
I remember one day, Michal,
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์–ด๋Š ๋‚  ๋ฏธํ• ์ด
06:35
she was talking with the journalist, and she was asking him,
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๊ธฐ์ž๋ž‘ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ๋‹ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:38
"Who's gonna see the show?"And he said, "Everybody."
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"๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์ด ์‡ผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ฃ ?" ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ธธ "๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€์š”."
06:42
So she said, "Everybody in Palestine, in where? Israel?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ . "ํŒ”๋ ˆ์Šคํƒ€์ธ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด์š”? ์–ด๋””์š”, ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜?
06:48
Who is everybody?""Everybody."
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ฃ ?""๋ชจ๋‘์š”."
06:51
They said, "Syria?" "Syria."
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธธ, "์‹œ๋ฆฌ์•„๋Š”์š”?" "์‹œ๋ฆฌ์•„๋„."
06:52
"Lebanon?""Lebanon."
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"๋ ˆ๋ฐ”๋…ผ๋„?" "๋ ˆ๋ฐ”๋…ผ๋„์š”."
06:54
At some point, he just said, "40 million people are going to see you today.
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์–ด๋Š ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์–˜๊ธฐํ–ˆ์ฃ . "4์ฒœ๋งŒ๋ช…์ด ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ณผ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:58
It's everybody." The Chinese.
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค." ์ค‘๊ตญ์ธ์ด์š”.
07:01
And we were just at the beginning of the story.
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ์•„์ง ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์˜ ์‹œ์ž‘ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:06
Something crazy also happened.
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๋˜ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์ผ์ด ๋ฒŒ์–ด์กŒ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
07:08
Every time a country started talking about it,
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๊ฐ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ด ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋”๋‹ˆ,
07:12
like Germany, America, wherever,
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๋…์ผ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ €๊ธฐ,
07:15
a page on Facebook popped up with the same logo
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ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ์—์„œ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋กœ๊ณ ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‹ด์€
07:20
with the same stories, so at the beginning
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ํŽ˜์ด์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋œจ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์—์š”. ์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š”
07:22
we had "Iran-Loves-Israel," which is an Iranian
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"์ด๋ž€์€ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด"์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ, ํ…Œํ—ค๋ž€์— ์žˆ๋Š”
07:26
sitting in Tehran, saying, "Okay, Israel loves Iran?
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์ด๋ž€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธธ"๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์ด ์ด๋ž€์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ ?
07:31
I give you Iran-Loves-Israel."
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋‚œ ์ด๋ž€์€ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์ง€."
07:33
You have Palestine-Loves-Israel.
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'ํŒ”๋ ˆ์Šคํƒ€์ธ์€ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด'๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ์š”.
07:34
You have Lebanon that just -- a few days ago.
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์–ผ๋งˆ ์ „์—” ๋ ˆ๋ฐ”๋…ผ๋„ ์ƒ๊ฒผ์–ด์š”.
07:37
And this whole list of pages on Facebook
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ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ์˜ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ํŽ˜์ด์ง€๋“ค์ด
07:41
dedicated to the same message,
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๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฉ”์„ธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:43
to people sending their love, one to each other.
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์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ์ผ์ด์ฃ .
07:48
The moment I really understood that something was happening,
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๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋ฒŒ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ตฌ๋‚˜, ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ง„์งœ๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋Š๊ผˆ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š”
07:52
a friend of mine told me,
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์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์ €ํ•œํ…Œ ๋งํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ์˜€์–ด์š”.
07:55
"Google the word 'Israel.'"
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"๊ตฌ๊ธ€์—์„œ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์„ ์ฐพ์•„๋ด"
07:57
And those were the first images on those days
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ์— ์ฒ˜์Œ ๋œฌ ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:00
that popped up from Google
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"์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜" ์ด๋‚˜ "์ด๋ž€"์„ ์น˜๋ฉด
08:03
when you were typing, "Israel" or "Iran."
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๊ตฌ๊ธ€์— ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค์ด์ฃ .
08:06
We really changed how people see the Middle East.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ค‘๋™์„ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ณด๋Š” ์‹œ์„ ์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟจ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:11
Because you're not in the Middle East.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ค‘๋™์— ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์ž–์•„์š”.
08:12
You're somewhere over there, and then you want to see the Middle East,
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ €๊ธฐ ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์— ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด์„œ, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ค‘๋™์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:15
so you go on Google and you say, "Israel,"
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ตฌ๊ธ€์— ๊ฐ€์„œ "์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์„" ๊ฒ€์ƒ‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ ,
08:16
and they give you the bad stuff.
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋งŒ ์ž”๋œฉ ๋‚˜์˜ค์ฃ .
08:17
And for a few days you got those images.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๋ฉฐ์น ๋™์•ˆ ์ € ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค์„ ๋ดค์„๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:22
Today the Israel-Loves-Iran page
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์˜ค๋Š˜ '์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์€ ์ด๋ž€์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด' ๋ผ๋Š” ํŽ˜์ด์ง€๋Š”
08:25
is this number, 80,831, and two million people last week
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80,831 ์กฐํšŒ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋ณด์˜€๊ณ , ์ง€๋‚œ ์ฃผ์—๋Š” 2๋ฐฑ๋งŒ์ด
08:30
went on the page and shared, liked, I don't know,
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๊ทธ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€๋ฅผ ์กฐํšŒํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค์„๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ , '์ข‹์•„์š”' ํ•˜๊ณ ,
08:33
commented on one of the photos.
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์‚ฌ์ง„์— ๋Œ“๊ธ€์„ ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:35
So for five months now, that's what we are doing,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด์ œ ์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•œ์ง€ 5๊ฐœ์›” ์ •๋„ ๋๊ณ ,
08:40
me, Michal, a few of my friends, are just making images.
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์ €, ๋ฏธํ• , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ช‡๋ช‡ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์€ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
08:45
We're showing a new reality
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฑธ๋กœ
08:47
by just making images
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ํ˜„์‹ค์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:49
because that's how the world perceives us.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์„ธ์ƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
08:52
They see images of us, and they see bad images.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๋ณด๊ณ ๋‚˜์œ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ๊ฐ–์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:55
So we're working on making good images. End of story.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ข‹์€ ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ „๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:00
Look at this one. This is the Iran-Loves-Israel page.
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์ด ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ์ด๊ฑด '์ด๋ž€์€ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด'๋ผ๋Š” ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:05
This is not the Israel-Loves-Iran. This is not my page.
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์ด๊ฑด '์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์€ ์ด๋ž€์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•ด' ํŽ˜์ด์ง€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฑด ์ œ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
09:07
This is a guy in Tehran on the day of remembrance
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์ด๊ฑด ํ…Œํ—ค๋ž€์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
09:11
of the Israeli fallen soldier
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์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์˜ ํ˜„์ถฉ์ผ์—
09:14
putting an image of an Israeli soldier on his page.
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์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ๊ตฐ์ธ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๊ทธ์˜ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ์˜ฌ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:18
This is the enemy.
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์ด๊ฑด ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:21
What?
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๋ญ๋ผ๊ตฌ์š”?
09:23
("Our heartfelt condolences to the families who lost their dearests in terror attack in Bulgaria")
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("๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์— ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์žƒ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฐ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์Šด๊นŠ์€ ์• ๋„๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.")
09:25
And it's going both ways.
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์ด๊ฑด ์Œ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:26
It's like, we are showing respect, one to each other.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋งˆ์น˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ์กด๊ฒฝ์„ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
09:31
And we're understanding. And you show compassion.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ดํ•ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž๋น„์‹ฌ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์ฃ .
09:36
And you become friends.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:41
And at some point, you become friends on Facebook,
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์–ด๋–ค ๋•Œ๋Š” ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ์—์„œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด์„œ
09:44
and you become friends in life.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋„ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์ฃ .
09:46
You can go and travel and meet people.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌํ–‰์„ ๋– ๋‚˜์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:48
And I was in Munich a few weeks ago.
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์ €๋Š” ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ์ „์— ๋ฎŒํ—จ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:52
I went there to open an exposition about Iran
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์ด๋ž€์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ „์‹œํšŒ๋ฅผ ์—ด๋ ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ”๋Š”๋ฐ
09:56
and I met there with people from the page
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ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์—์„œ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์ฃ .
09:58
that told me, "Okay, you're going to be in Europe,
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํ•œํ…Œ ๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”."์ข‹์•„์š”. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์— ๊ฐ„๋‹ค๋ฉด
10:00
I'm coming. I'm coming from France, from Holland,
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๋‚˜๋„ ๊ฐˆ๊ฒŒ์š”. ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ”„๋ž‘์Šค์—์„œ, ๋„ค๋œ๋ž€๋“œ์—์„œ,
10:03
from Germany," of course, and from Israel people came,
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๋…์ผ์—์„œ ๊ฐˆ๊ฒŒ์š”." ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ์™”์–ด์š”.
10:06
and we just met there for the first time in real life.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ฒ˜์Œ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:10
I met with people that are supposed to be my enemies
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ ์ ์ด ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„
10:15
for the first time. And we just shake hands,
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์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์–ด์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•…์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ 
10:17
and have a coffee and a nice discussion,
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์ปคํ”ผ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋ฉด์„œ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ํ† ๋ก ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ 
10:19
and we talk about food and basketball.
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์Œ์‹๊ณผ ์•ผ๊ตฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋‚˜๋ˆด์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:22
And that was the end of it.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:24
Remember that image from the beginning?
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์ฒ˜์Œ์— ๋ณธ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹œ์ฃ ?
10:27
At some point we met in real life, and we became friends.
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์–ด๋–ค ๋•Œ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:35
And it goes the other way around.
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์ด๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด ์ง€๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:38
Some girl that we met on Facebook
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚œ ์–ด๋–ค ์—ฌ์ž์•„์ด๋Š”
10:40
never been in Israel, born and raised in Iran,
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์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์— ์™€๋ณธ ์ ์—†์ด ์ด๋ž€์—์„œ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚˜ ์ž๋ž๊ณ 
10:43
lives in Germany, afraid of Israelis
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๋…์ผ์— ์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ฌด์„œ์›Œํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:47
because of what she knows about us,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑฐ์˜€์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
10:49
decides after a few months of talking on the Internet
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์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์œผ๋กœ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋ช‡๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆˆ ๋’ค
10:53
with some Israelis to come to Israel,
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์ด์Šฌ๋ผ์—˜์— ์˜ค๊ธฐ๋กœ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ๋จน์—ˆ์ฃ .
10:56
and she gets on the plane and arrives at Ben Gurion
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋น„ํ–‰๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํƒ€๊ณ  ๋ฒค ๊ตฌ๋ฆฌ์˜จ์— ๋„์ฐฉํ•ด์„œ
11:00
and says, "Okay, not that big a deal."
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๋งํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. "์ข‹์•„, ๋ณ„์ผ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ž–์•„."
11:06
So a few weeks ago, the stress is getting higher,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ์ „์—, ๊ธด์žฅ๊ฐ์ด ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ
11:10
so we start this new campaign
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:12
called "Not ready to die in your war."
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์ด๋ฆ„ํ•˜์—ฌ "๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฒŒ์ด๋Š” ์ „์Ÿ์—์„œ ์ฃฝ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์•„์š”."
11:16
I mean, it's plus/minus the same message,
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๋Œ€์ถฉ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:19
but we wanted really to add some aggressivity to it.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์„ฑ์„ ๋„๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:22
And again, something amazing happened,
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:25
something that we didn't have on the first wave of the campaign.
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์บชํŽ˜์ธ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋˜ ๋ฌด๋ ต์—๋Š” ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
11:29
Now people from Iran, the same ones who were shy
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์ด์ œ ์ด๋ž€์—์„œ ์˜จ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
11:33
at the first campaign and just sent, you know,
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์ฒซ ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ์—์„œ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿผ์„ ํƒ€๋˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
11:35
their foot and half their faces,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ฐœ๊ณผ ์–ผ๊ตด์˜ ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค€ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:37
now they're sending their faces, and they're saying,
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์ด์ œ ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋ฉด์„œ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์—์š”.
11:40
"Okay, no problem, we're into it. We are with you."
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"์ข‹์•„์š”. ๋ฌธ์ œ ์—†์–ด์š”.์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ํ•ด์š”. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ• ๊ฒŒ์š”."
11:49
Just read where those guys are from.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋””์„œ ์™”๋Š”์ง€ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ฝ์–ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
11:52
And for every guy from Israel,
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์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์—์„œ ์˜จ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์ €๋งˆ๋‹ค
11:54
you've got someone from Iran.
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์ด๋ž€์—์„œ ์˜จ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:06
Just people sending their pictures.
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์ž๊ธฐ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด์ฃ .
12:26
Crazy, yes?
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๋ง๋„ ์•ˆ ๋ผ์ฃ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
12:28
So --
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ...
12:30
(Applause)
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12:39
So you may ask yourself, who is this dude?
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ดํ• ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ฃ . ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ง€?
12:46
My name is Ronny Edry, and I'm 41, I'm an Israeli,
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์ œ ์ด๋ฆ„์€ ๋กœ๋‹ˆ ์—๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ด๊ณ  41์‚ด, ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:50
I'm a father of two, I'm a husband,
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์ €๋Š” ๋‘ ์•„์ด์˜ ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€์ด๊ณ  ๋‚จํŽธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:54
and I'm a graphic designer. I'm teaching graphic design.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ ๋””์ž์ด๋„ˆ์ด๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ ๋””์ž์ธ์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์นฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:59
And I'm not that naive, because a lot of the time
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ˆœ์ง„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:03
I've been asked, many times I've been asked, "Yeah, but,
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์ €ํ•œํ…Œ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๋”๊ตฐ์š”. "๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ,
13:06
this is really naive, sending flowers over, I mean โ€” "
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์ด๊ฑด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ˆœ์ง„ํ•œ๋ฐ์š”, ๊ฝƒ์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋‹ค๋‹ˆ. ์ œ ๋ง์€.."
13:10
I was in the army. I was in the paratroopers for three years,
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์ €๋Š” ๊ตฐ๋Œ€์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.3๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋‚™ํ•˜์‚ฐ ๋ถ€๋Œ€์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:14
and I know how it looks from the ground.
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๋•…์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ด๋Š”์ง€ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:17
I know how it can look really bad.
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์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ํ˜•ํŽธ์—†์ด ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:22
So to me, this is the courageous thing to do,
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์ €ํ•œํ…Œ๋Š” ์ด๊ฑด ์šฉ๊ฐํ•œ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:26
to try to reach the other side before it's too late,
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋Šฆ๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ชฝ์— ๋‹ฟ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:29
because when it's going to be too late, it's going to be too late.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋Šฆ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋Šฆ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฐ ๊ฑฐ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
13:31
And sometimes war is inevitable, sometimes,
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๋•Œ๋กœ ์ „์Ÿ์€ ํ”ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”์š”.
13:35
but maybe [with] effort, we can avoid it.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด, ๋…ธ๋ ฅ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ํ”ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:40
Maybe as people, because especially in Israel,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ํž˜์œผ๋กœ, ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ํŠนํžˆ ์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜์—์„œ๋Š”
13:43
we're in a democracy. We have the freedom of speech,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฏผ์ฃผ์ฃผ์˜ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์–ธ๋ก ์˜ ์ž์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ 
13:46
and maybe that little thing can change something.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ž‘์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:50
And really, we can be our own ambassadors.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ํ™๋ณด๋Œ€์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:54
We can just send a message and hope for the best.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์ตœ์„ ์„ ๋ฐ”๋ž„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€์š”.
14:01
So I want to ask Michal, my wife, to come with me
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฏธํ• , ์ œ ์•„๋‚ด์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด๋Œ€๋กœ ์˜ฌ๋ผ์™€
14:03
on the stage just to make with you one image,
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์ €์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์ฐ์ž๊ณ  ๋ถ€ํƒํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:08
because it's all about images.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์ง„์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฑฐ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
14:10
And maybe that image will help us change something.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ์ง„์ด ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋„์›€์„ ์ค„ ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ฃ .
14:15
Just raise that. Exactly.
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์ด๊ฑธ ๋“ค์–ด ์˜ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด. ๋„ค.
14:18
And I'm just going to take a picture of it,
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์‚ฌ์ง„ ํ•œ์žฅ์„ ์ฐ๊ณ 
14:21
and I'm just going to post it on Facebook
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"์ด์Šค๋ผ์—˜ x ํ‰ํ™”" ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฉ”์„ธ์ง€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜
14:23
with kind of "Israelis for peace" or something.
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์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ํŽ˜์ด์Šค๋ถ์— ์˜ฌ๋ฆด๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:31
Oh my God.
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์•„ ๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ.
14:34
Don't cry.
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์šธ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
14:36
Thank you guys.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ๊ณ ๋ง™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:38
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์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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