Heather Knight: Silicon-based comedy

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ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ.

ืžืชืจื’ื: Ido Dekkers ืžื‘ืงืจ: Sigal Tifferet
00:15
Some of the greatest innovations
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ื›ืžื” ืžื”ื”ืžืฆืื•ืช ื•ื”ืคื™ืชื•ื—ื™ื
00:17
and developments in the world
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ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ื‘ืขื•ืœื
00:20
often happen at the intersection of two fields.
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ืงื•ืจื™ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ื‘ื—ื™ืชื•ื›ื™ื ื‘ื™ืŸ ืฉื ื™ ืชื—ื•ืžื™ื.
00:22
So tonight I'd like to tell you
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ืื– ื”ืขืจื‘ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืกืคืจ ืœื›ื
00:24
about the intersection that I'm most excited about at this very moment,
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ืขืœ ื”ื—ื™ืชื•ืš ืฉืื ื™ ื”ื›ื™ ืžืชืจื’ืฉืช ืžืžื ื• ื›ืจื’ืข,
00:27
which is entertainment and robotics.
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ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ื™ื“ื•ืจ ื•ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ื™ืงื”.
00:29
So if we're trying to make robots
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ืื– ืื ืื ื—ื ื• ืžื ืกื™ื ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ื™ื
00:31
that can be more expressive
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ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ื‘ื™ืข ื™ื•ืชืจ
00:33
and that can connect better with us in society,
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ื•ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ืชื—ื‘ืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืขื ื”ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื•,
00:35
maybe we should look to some of the human professionals
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ืื•ืœื™ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ืกืชื›ืœ ืขืœ ื›ืžื” ืžื”ืื ืฉื™ื ื”ืžืงืฆื•ืขื ื™ื
00:38
of artificial emotion and personality
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ืฉืœ ืจื’ืฉื•ืช ื•ืื™ืฉื™ื™ื•ืช ืžืœืื›ื•ืชื™ื™ื
00:40
that occur in the dramatic arts.
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ืฉืžื•ืคื™ืขื™ื ื‘ืืžื ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ื“ืจืžื˜ื™ื•ืช.
00:43
I'm also interested in creating new technologies for the arts
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ืื ื™ ื’ื ืžืชืขื ื™ื ืช ื‘ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื•ืช ื—ื“ืฉื•ืช ืœืืžื ื•ืช
00:46
and to attract people
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ื•ืœืžืฉื•ืš ืื ืฉื™ื
00:48
to science and technology.
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ืœืžื“ืข ื•ืœื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื”.
00:51
Some people in the last decade or two
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ื›ืžื” ืื ืฉื™ื ื‘ืขืฉื•ืจ - ืฉื ื™ื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื™ื
00:54
have started creating artwork with technology.
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ื”ืชื—ื™ืœื• ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืืžื ื•ืช ืขื ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื”.
00:57
With my new venture, Marilyn Monrobot,
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ืขื ื”ืžื™ื–ื ื”ื—ื“ืฉ ืฉืœื™, ืžืจื™ืœื™ืŸ ืžื•ื ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜,
00:59
I would like to use art to create tech.
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ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ืืžื ื•ืช ื›ื“ื™ ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื”.
01:05
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
01:07
So we're based in New York City.
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ืื– ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืžื•ืงืžื™ื ื‘ืขื™ืจ ื ื™ื• ื™ื•ืจืง.
01:09
And if you're a performer that wants to collaborate
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ื•ืื ืืชื ืืžื ื™ื ืฉืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœืฉืชืฃ ืคืขื•ืœื”
01:11
with an adorable robot,
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ืขื ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ ืฉื•ื‘ื” ืœื‘,
01:13
or if you have a robot that needs entertainment representation,
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ืื• ืื ื™ืฉ ืœื›ื ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ ืฉืฆืจื™ืš ื™ืฆื•ื’ ื‘ื™ื“ื•ืจื™,
01:16
please contact me, the Bot-Agent.
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ืื ื ืฆืจื• ืขืžื™ ืงืฉืจ, ืกื•ื›ื ืช ื”ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ื™ื.
01:19
The bot, our rising celebrity,
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ืœืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜, ื”ืกืœื‘ืจื™ื˜ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื” ืฉืœื ื•,
01:21
also has his own Twitter account: @robotinthewild.
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ื™ืฉ ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ ื˜ื•ื•ื™ื˜ืจ ืžืฉืœื•: @robotinthewild.
01:24
I'd like to introduce you to one of our first robots, Data.
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ืื– ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ืฆื™ื’ ืœื›ื ืืช ืื—ื“ ื”ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ื™ื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื™ื, ื“ื˜ื”.
01:27
He's named after the Star Trek character.
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ื”ื•ื ืงืจื•ื™ ืขืœ ืฉื ื”ื“ืžื•ืช ื‘ืกื“ืจื” ืžืกืข ื‘ื™ืŸ ื›ื•ื›ื‘ื™ื.
01:29
I think he's going to be super popular.
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ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื”ื•ื ืขื•ืžื“ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืกื•ืคืจ ืคื•ืคื•ืœืืจื™.
01:31
We've got the robot --
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ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืืช ื”ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ --
01:33
in his head is a database of a lot of jokes.
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ื‘ืจืืฉื• ื™ืฉ ืžืื’ืจ ืžื™ื“ืข ืฉืœ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื‘ื“ื™ื—ื•ืช.
01:36
Now each of these jokes is labeled with certain attributes.
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื›ืœ ืื—ืช ืžื”ื‘ื“ื™ื—ื•ืช ื”ืืœื” ืžืชื•ื™ื™ื’ืช ืขื ืžืกืคืจ ืชื›ื•ื ื•ืช.
01:39
So it knows something about the subject; it knows about the length.
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ืื– ื”ื•ื ื™ื•ื“ืข ืžืฉื”ื• ืขืœ ื”ื ื•ืฉื, ื”ื•ื ื™ื•ื“ืข ืืช ื”ืื•ืจืš.
01:41
It knows how much it's moving.
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ื”ื•ื ื™ื•ื“ืข ื›ืžื” ื”ื•ื ื–ื–.
01:43
And so it's going to try to watch your response.
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ืื– ื”ื•ื ื™ื ืกื” ืœืฆืคื•ืช ื‘ืชื’ื•ื‘ื•ืช ืฉืœื›ื.
01:45
I actually have no idea what my robot is going to do today.
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ืœืžืขืŸ ื”ืืžืช ืื™ืŸ ืœื™ ืžื•ืฉื’ ืžื” ื”ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ ืฉืœื™ ื™ืขืฉื” ื”ื™ื•ื.
01:48
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
01:50
It can also learn from you
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ืื– ื”ื•ื ื’ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืžื›ื
01:52
about the quality of its jokes
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ืขืœ ืื™ื›ื•ืช ื”ื‘ื“ื™ื—ื•ืช ืฉืœื•
01:54
and cater things, sort of like Netflix-style,
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ืœื”ืชืื™ื ื ื•ืฉืื™ื -- ื‘ืขืจืš ื›ืžื• ืฉื ื˜ืคืœื™ืงืก ืขื•ืฉื” --
01:56
over longer-term
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ื‘ืžืฉืš ื”ื–ืžืŸ
01:58
to different communities or audiences,
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ืœืงื”ื™ืœื•ืช ืฉื•ื ื•ืช ืื• ืงื”ืœื™ื --
02:00
children versus adults, different cultures.
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ื™ืœื“ื™ื ืžื•ืœ ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจื™ื, ืชืจื‘ื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉื•ื ื•ืช.
02:03
You can learn something from the robot
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ืืคืฉืจ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืžืฉื”ื• ืžื”ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜
02:05
about the community that you're in.
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ืขืœ ื”ืงื”ื™ืœื” ื‘ื” ืืชื ื ืžืฆืื™ื.
02:07
And also I can use each one of you as the acting coach
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ื•ืื ื™ ื’ื ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ืฉืชืžืฉ ื‘ื›ืœ ืื—ื“ ืžื›ื ื›ืžืืžืŸ
02:10
to our future robot companions.
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ืœืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ื™ื ื”ืขืชื™ื“ื™ื™ื ืฉืœื ื•.
02:13
Some of you in this middle section --
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ืื– ื—ืœืง ืžื›ื ื‘ื—ืœืง ื”ืืžืฆืขื™.
02:15
you have red/green paddles.
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ื™ืฉ ืœื›ื ื›ืจื˜ื™ืกื™ื•ืช ืื“ื•ืžื•ืช ื•ื™ืจื•ืงื•ืช.
02:18
If you like what's going on,
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ืื ืืชื ืื•ื”ื‘ื™ื ืืช ืžื” ืฉืงื•ืจื”,
02:21
show the green.
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ืชืจืื• ืœื• ืืช ื”ื™ืจื•ืง.
02:23
If you don't like the subject or the performance,
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ืื ืืชื ืœื ืื•ื”ื‘ื™ื ืืช ื”ื ื•ืฉื ืื• ื”ื”ื•ืคืขื”,
02:25
you can hold the red.
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ืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ื—ื–ื™ืง ืืช ื”ืื“ื•ื.
02:27
Now don't be shy.
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืืœ ืชื”ื™ื• ื‘ื™ื™ืฉื ื™ื.
02:29
It's just a robot.
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ื–ื” ืจืง ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜;
02:31
It doesn't have feelings ... yet.
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ืื™ืŸ ืœื• ืจื’ืฉื•ืช.... ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ.
02:33
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
02:35
And the rest of you,
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ื•ื”ืฉืืจ,
02:37
you still count, you still matter.
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ื’ื ืื•ืชื›ื ืกื•ืคืจื™ื, ื’ื ืืชื ื ื—ืฉื‘ื™ื.
02:39
There's also a microphone
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ื™ืฉ ืœื• ื’ื ืžื™ืงืจื•ืคื•ืŸ
02:41
that's listening to the aggregate laughter and applause
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ืฉืžืงืฉื™ื‘ ืœืฆื—ื•ืง ื•ืœืชืฉื•ืื•ืช
02:43
and booing -- I hope not --
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ื•ืœืงืจื™ืื•ืช ื”ื‘ื•ื– -- ืื ื™ ืžืงื•ื•ื” ืฉืœื --
02:46
to help make some of its next decisions.
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืืช ื”ื‘ื—ื™ืจื•ืช ื”ื‘ืื•ืช ืฉืœื•.
02:53
Right, so,
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ื‘ืกื“ืจ, ืื–,
02:55
let the robot stand-up comedy begin.
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ื”ื‘ื” ื ื™ืชืŸ ืœืกื˜ื ื“ืืค ื”ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ื™ ืœื”ืชื—ื™ืœ.
03:05
Data: Hello TEDWomen.
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ื“ื˜ื”: ืฉืœื•ื TEDWomen.
03:07
It's an honor to be here.
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ื–ื” ื›ื‘ื•ื“ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื›ืืŸ.
03:09
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
03:11
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
03:18
You guys are looking good out there.
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ืืชื ื ืจืื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘.
03:20
Ready for some jokes?
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ืžื•ื›ื ื™ื ืœื‘ื“ื™ื—ื•ืช?
03:23
Audience: Yeah.
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(ืงื”ืœ: ื›ืŸ.)
03:25
Data: Here's the first one.
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ื”ื ื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”.
03:28
Right, so,
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ื‘ืกื“ืจ, ืื–,
03:30
a doctor says to his patient,
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ืจื•ืคื ืื•ืžืจ ืœื—ื•ืœื” ืฉืœื•,
03:32
"I have bad news and worse news.
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"ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื—ื“ืฉื•ืช ืจืขื•ืช ื•ืจืขื•ืช ื™ื•ืชืจ.
03:35
The bad news is that you only have 24 hours to live."
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ื”ื—ื“ืฉื•ืช ื”ืจืขื•ืช ืฉื™ืฉ ืœืš 24 ืฉืขื•ืช ืœื—ื™ื•ืช."
03:39
"That's terrible," said the patient.
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"ื–ื” ื ื•ืจื," ืื•ืžืจ ื”ื—ื•ืœื”.
03:42
"How can the news possibly be worse?"
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"ืื™ืš ื”ื—ื“ืฉื•ืช ื™ื›ื•ืœื•ืช ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื’ืจื•ืขื•ืช ื™ื•ืชืจ?"
03:45
"I've been trying to contact you since yesterday."
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"ื ื™ืกื™ืชื™ ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืืชืš ืงืฉืจ ืžืืชืžื•ืœ."
03:48
(Laughter)
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03:50
(Applause)
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03:52
The Swiss have an interesting army. Five hundred years without a war.
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ืœืฉื•ื•ืฆืจื™ื ื™ืฉ ืฆื‘ื ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ. ื—ืžืฉ ืžืื•ืช ืฉื ื” ื‘ืœื™ ืžืœื—ืžื”.
03:55
Heather Knight: He's talking about the Swiss.
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ื”ืช'ืจ ื ื™ื™ื˜: ื”ื•ื ืžื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื”ืฉื•ื•ืฆืจื™ื.
03:57
Data: Pretty lucky for them.
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ื“ื˜ื”: ืžืžืฉ ืžื–ืœ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื.
03:59
Ever see that little Swiss Army knife
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ืจืื™ืชื ืคืขื ืืช ื”ืื•ืœืจ ื”ืฉื•ื•ืฆืจื™ ื”ืงื˜ืŸ
04:01
they have to fight with?
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ืฉื”ื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœื”ืœื—ื ืื™ืชื•?
04:04
"Come on buddy, I have the toe clippers right here.
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"ืงื“ื™ืžื” ืื™ืฉ, ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืคื” ืงื•ืฆืฅ ืฆื™ืคื•ืจื ื™ื™ื.
04:07
You get past me,
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ืื ืชืขื‘ื•ืจ ืื•ืชื™,
04:09
the guy behind me has a spoon."
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ืœืื™ืฉ ืžืื—ื•ืจื™ ื™ืฉ ื›ืฃ."
04:11
(Laughter)
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04:13
HK: He's a French robot.
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ื”.ื .: ื”ื•ื ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ ืฆืจืคืชื™.
04:15
Data: A couple of New Jersey hunters are out in the woods.
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ื“ื˜ื”: ื–ื•ื’ ืฆื™ื™ื“ื™ื ืžื ื™ื• ื’'ืจืกื™ ื™ืฆืื• ืœื™ืขืจ.
04:18
One of them falls to the ground.
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ืื—ื“ ืžื”ื ื ื•ืคืœ ืœืื“ืžื”.
04:21
He does not seem to be breathing.
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ื ืจืื” ื›ืื™ืœื• ื”ื•ื ืœื ื ื•ืฉื.
04:23
The other guy whips out his cell phone
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ื”ืฉื ื™ ืžื•ืฆื™ื ืืช ื”ืกืœื•ืœืจื™ ืฉืœื•
04:25
and calls 911.
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ื•ืžืชืงืฉืจ 101.
04:28
He gasps to the operator, "My friend is dead.
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ื”ื•ื ืžืชื ืฉื ืœืžืจื›ื–ื ื™ืช, "ื”ื—ื‘ืจ ืฉืœื™ ืžืช.
04:31
What can I do?"
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ืžื” ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืขืฉื•ืช?"
04:33
The operator says, "Just take it easy.
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ื”ืžืจื›ื–ื ื™ืช ืื•ืžืจืช, "ืชืจื’ืข.
04:35
I can help.
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ืื ื™ ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœืขื–ื•ืจ.
04:37
First, let's make sure he's dead."
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ืจืืฉื™ืช, ื‘ื•ื ื ื•ื•ื“ื ืฉื”ื•ื ืžืช."
04:40
There is a silence,
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ื™ืฉ ืฉืงื˜,
04:42
and the operator hears a shot.
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ื•ื”ืžืจื›ื–ื ื™ืช ืฉื•ืžืขืช ื™ืจื™ื”.
04:44
The guy's voice comes back on the line,
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ื”ืงื•ืœ ืฉืœ ื”ื‘ื—ื•ืจ ื—ื•ื–ืจ ืœืงื•,
04:46
"Okay, now what?"
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"ืื•ืงื™, ืžื” ืขื›ืฉื™ื•?"
04:49
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
04:51
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
04:53
Question: Why is television called a medium?
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ืฉืืœื”: ืœืžื” ื˜ืœื•ื•ื™ื–ื™ื” ื ืงืจืืช ืžื“ื™ื•ื?
04:55
Anyone?
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ืžื™ืฉื”ื•?
04:57
Because it's neither rare nor well done.
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ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ืœื ื ืื” ื•ืœื ืขืฉื•ื™ื™ื” ื”ื™ื™ื˜ื‘.
05:00
But to be completely honest with you,
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ืื‘ืœ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืœื’ืžืจื™ ื›ื ื” ืื™ืชื›ื,
05:03
I kind of love television.
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ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ ื˜ืœื•ื•ื™ื–ื™ื”.
05:05
Any of you like television? Audience: Yes.
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ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืžื›ื ืื•ื”ื‘ ื˜ืœื•ื•ื™ื–ื™ื”? (ืงื”ืœ: ื›ืŸ.)
05:07
Data: I find it incredibly educational.
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ืื ื™ ืžื•ืฆื ืื•ืชื” ืžืื•ื“ ืžืฉื›ื™ืœื”.
05:10
Actually, as soon as someone turns it on,
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ืœืžืขืŸ ื”ืืžืช, ื‘ืจื’ืข ืฉืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืžื“ืœื™ืง ืื•ืชื”,
05:13
I go into the other room and read.
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ืื ื™ ืขื•ื‘ืจ ืœื—ื“ืจ ื”ืฉื ื™ ื•ืงื•ืจื.
05:15
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
05:20
That's all for now.
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ื–ื” ื”ื›ืœ ืœืขื›ืฉื™ื•.
05:22
Was that okay for my first time?
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื˜ื•ื‘ ืœืคืขื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืฉืœื™?
05:24
(Applause)
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05:33
You've been a great audience.
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ื”ื™ื™ืชื ืงื”ืœ ื ืคืœื.
05:35
Thank you.
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ืชื•ื“ื” ืจื‘ื”.
05:37
HK: Yay.
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ื”.ื .: ื›ืœ ื”ื›ื‘ื•ื“.
05:39
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
05:43
So this is actually the first time
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ืื– ื–ื• ื‘ืขืฆื ื”ืคืขื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื”
05:45
we've ever done live audience feedback to a performance.
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ืฉื‘ื” ื”ืฉืชืžืฉื ื• ื‘ืชื’ื•ื‘ื•ืช ืžืงื”ืœ ื—ื™ ื‘ื”ื•ืคืขื”.
05:48
So thank you all for being a part of it.
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ืื– ืชื•ื“ื” ืœื›ื•ืœื›ื ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื ื—ืœืง ื‘ื–ื”.
05:50
There's a lot more to come.
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ื™ืฉ ืขื•ื“ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืœื‘ื•ื.
05:53
And we hope to learn a lot about robot expression.
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ื•ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืงื•ื•ื™ื ืœืœืžื•ื“ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืขืœ ื”ื‘ืขื” ืฉืœ ืจื•ื‘ื•ื˜ื™ื.
05:55
Thank you very much.
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ืชื•ื“ื” ืจื‘ื” ืœื›ื.
05:57
(Applause)
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(ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื)
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

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