Rob Harmon: How the market can keep streams flowing

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This is a river.
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Ovo je rijeka.
Ovo je potok.
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This is a stream.
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00:23
This is a river.
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Ovo je rijeka.
Ovo se događa širom zemlje.
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This is happening all over the country.
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There are tens of thousands of miles of dewatered streams in the United States.
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Postoje desetine tisuća milja
isušenih potoka u Sjedinjenim Državama.
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On this map, the colored areas represent water conflicts.
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Na ovoj karti,
obojana područja predstavljaju sukobe oko vode.
00:39
Similar problems are emerging in the East as well.
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Slični problemi se pojavljuju također na istoku.
Razlozi variraju od države do države,
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The reasons vary state to state, but mostly in the details.
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ali uglavnom zbog detalja.
Postoji gotovo 6.500 km isušenih potoka
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There are 4,000 miles of dewatered streams in Montana alone.
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samo u Montani.
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They would ordinarily support fish and other wildlife.
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Normalno bi podržavali ribe i druge oblike divljeg života.
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They're the veins of the ecosystem,
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Oni su vene ekosustava,
i često su prazne vene.
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and they're often empty veins.
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Želim vam ispričati priču
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I want to tell you the story of just one of these streams,
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o samo jednom od tih potoka
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because it's an archetype for the larger story.
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jer predstavlja arhetip šire priče.
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This is Prickly Pear Creek.
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To je Prickly Pear potok.
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It runs through a populated area from East Helena to Lake Helena.
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Prolazi kroz naseljeno područje
od istočne Helene do jezera Helena.
Podržava divlje ribe
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It supports wild fish including cutthroat, brown and rainbow trout.
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uključujući pastrve glavosjek, smeđu
i duginu.
01:22
Nearly every year for more than a hundred years ...
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Gotovo svake godine
više od stotinu godina,
ovako je izgledalo tijekom ljeta.
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it looked like this in the summer.
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01:30
How did we get here?
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Kako smo došli tamo?
Sve je počelo kasnih 1800ih
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Well, it started back in the late 1800s
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kada su ljudi počeli naseljavati mjesta poput Montane.
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when people started settling in places like Montana.
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01:39
In short, there was a lot of water and there weren't very many people.
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Ukratko, bilo je puno vode,
a tamo nije bilo puno ljudi.
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But as more people showed up wanting water,
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Ali kako se sve više ljudi pojavljivalo tražeći vodu,
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the folks who were there first got a little concerned,
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ljudi koji su tamo došli prvi su se malo zabrinuli,
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and in 1865, Montana passed its first water law.
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i 1865., u Montani je donešen prvi zakon o vodi.
U biti je govorio, kako svatko blizu potoka
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It basically said, everybody near the stream can share in the stream.
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može potok dijeliti.
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Oddly, a lot of people showed up wanting to share the stream,
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Čudno, ali puno se ljudi pojavilo želeći dijeliti potok,
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and the folks who were there first
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i ljudi koji su se tamo pojavili prvi
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got concerned enough to bring out their lawyers.
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su se dovoljno zabrinuli da su uzeli odvjetnike.
02:05
There were precedent-setting suits in 1870 and 1872,
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Bilo je to vrijeme presedanskih parnica
1870. i 1872.
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both involving Prickly Pear Creek.
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koje je uključivalo Prickly Pear potok.
A 1921.,
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And in 1921,
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the Montana Supreme Court ruled in a case involving Prickly Pear
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vrhovni sud Montane
donio je presudu koja je uključivala Prickly Pear
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that the folks who were there first had the first, or "senior water rights."
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da ljudi koji su tamo došli prvi
imaju prioritetna, pretpostavljena, vodena prava.
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These senior water rights are key.
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Ta priroritetna prava su ključ.
Problem je što sada cijeli Zapad
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The problem is that all over the West now it looks like this.
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izgleda tako.
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Some of these creeks have claims
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Neki od tih potoka
02:33
for 50 to 100 times more water than is actually in the stream.
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imaju zahtjeva za 50 do 100 puta više vode
nego što je ima u potoku.
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And the senior water rights holders, if they don't use their water right,
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I oni koji imaju prioritetna prava,
ako oni ne iskoriste svoja vodena prava,
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they risk losing their water right --
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riskiraju da ih izgube,
zajedno s ekonomskom vrijednosti koja ide s njima.
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along with the economic value that goes with it.
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Tako da oni nemaju poticaj za očuvanjem.
02:49
So they have no incentive to conserve.
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02:52
So it's not just about the number of people;
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Dakle radi se samo o broju ljudi;
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the system itself creates a disincentive to conserve
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sustav sam po sebi stvara osjetljivost na očuvanje
jer možeš izgubiti svoja vodena prava ako ih ne koristiš.
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because you can lose your water right if you don't use it.
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03:03
So after decades of lawsuits and 140 years, now, of experience,
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Nakon desetljeća parnica
i 140 godina iskustva,
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we still have this.
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još uvijek imamo to.
To je slomljeni sustav.
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It's a broken system.
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03:12
There's a disincentive to conserve,
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Postoji osjetljivost na očuvanje,
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because if you don't use your water right, you can lose your water right.
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jer, ako ne koristiš svoja vodena prava,
možeš ih izgubiti.
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And I'm sure you all know, this has created significant conflicts
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I siguran sam kako svi znate, to je kreiralo značajne sukobe
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between the agricultural and environmental communities.
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između poljoprivrednih i ekoloških zajednica.
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OK, now I'm going to change gears here.
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Dobro. Sada ću promijeniti brzine.
Većina vas će biti sretna znati
03:29
Most of you will be happy to know that the rest of the presentation's free ...
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kako je ostatak prezentacije slobodan.
03:32
(Laughter)
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I neki od vas će biti sretni znati kako uključuje pivo.
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and some of you'll be happy to know that it involves beer.
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03:36
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
03:39
There's another thing happening around the country,
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Još jedna stvar se događa širom zemlje,
a to je da su se kompanije počele brinuti
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which is that companies are starting to get concerned
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o svojem vodenom otisku.
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about their water footprint.
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03:46
They're concerned about securing an adequate supply of water,
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One su zabrinute oko osiguranja adekvatnih zaliha vode,
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they're trying to be really efficient with their water use,
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one pokušavaju biti stvarno efikasne prilikom korištenja vode,
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and they're concerned about how their water use
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i zabrinute su kako njihovo korištenje vode
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affects the image of their brand.
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utječe na imidž njihove tržišne marke.
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Well, it's a national problem,
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To je nacionalni problem,
03:59
but I'm going to tell you another story from Montana ...
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ali ja ću vam ispričati još jednu priču iz Montane,
04:01
and it involves beer.
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i ona uključuje pivo.
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I bet you didn't know, it takes about 5 pints of water
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Kladim se da niste znali, kako je potrebno oko tri litre vode
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to make a pint of beer.
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kako biste napravili pola litre piva.
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If you include all the drain,
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Ako uključite svu drenažu
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it takes more than a hundred pints of water to make a pint of beer.
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potrebno je više od 55 litara vode za pola litre piva.
Pivari u Montani
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Now the brewers in Montana
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04:15
have already done a lot to reduce their water consumption,
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su već napravili puno
kako bi smanjili potrošnju vode,
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but they still use millions of gallons of water.
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ali još uvijek koriste milijune litara vode.
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I mean, there's water in beer.
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Mislim, u pivu ima vode.
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So what can they do about this remaining water footprint
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Dakle što oni mogu učiniti
s tim ostatkom vodenog otiska
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that can have serious effects on the ecosystem?
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koji može imati ozbiljne posljedice
za ekosustav?
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These ecosystems are really important
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Ti ekosustavi su stvarno jako važni
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to the Montana brewers and their customers.
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za pivare iz Montane i njihove kupce.
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After all, there's a strong correlation between water and fishing,
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Napokon, postoji snažna korelacija
između vode i ribolova.
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and for some, there's a strong correlation between fishing and beer.
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I za neke, postoji snažna korelacija
između pecanja i pive.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
04:49
So the Montana brewers and their customers are concerned
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Tako su pivari iz Montane i njihovi kupci zabrinuti,
04:52
and they're looking for some way to address the problem.
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i gledaju na načine kako riješiti problem.
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So how can they address this remaining water footprint?
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Dakle kako mogu riješiti taj ostatak vodenog otiska?
Sjećate se Prickly Peara.
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Remember Prickly Pear.
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05:00
Up until now, business water stewardship
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Do sada,
poslovno upravljanje vode
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has been limited to measuring and reducing,
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ograničeno je na mjerenje i smanjivanje,
i mi predlažemo da je slijedeći korak
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and we're suggesting that the next step is to restore.
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obnoviti.
Sjećate se Prickly Peara.
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Remember Prickly Pear.
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05:14
It's a broken system.
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Njegov slomljeni sustav.
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You've got a disincentive to conserve,
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Imate destimulaciju za očuvanje,
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because if you don't use your water right, you risk losing your water right.
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jer ako ne koristite vodena prava, riskirate da ih izgubite.
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Well, we decided to connect these two worlds --
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Mi smo odlučili spojiti ta dva svijeta --
poslovni svijet
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the world of the companies with their water footprints
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s njihovim vodenim otiscima
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and the world of the farmers
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i svijet poljoprivrednika
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with their senior water rights on these creeks.
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s njihovim pravima prvenstva na te potoke.
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In some states,
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U nekim državama,
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senior water rights holders can leave their water in the stream
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držatelji prava prvenstva na vodu
mogu ostaviti svoju vodu u potoku
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while legally protecting it from others,
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pravno je braneći od drugih
i zadržavajući pravo na vodu.
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and maintaining their water right.
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Napokon,
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After all, it is their water right,
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to je njihovo pravo na vodu,
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and if they want to use that water right to help the fish grow in the stream,
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i ako žele koristiti to pravo
kako bi pomogli rast ribe u potoku,
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it's their right to do so.
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njihovo je pravo da to učine.
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But they have no incentive to do so.
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Ali nemaju nikakav poticaj za to.
Radeći s lokalnim vodenim trustovima,
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So, working with local water trusts, we created an incentive to do so.
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stvorili smo poticaje za to.
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We pay them to leave their water in stream.
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Plaćamo im da ostave svoju vodu u potoku.
To se događa ovdje.
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That's what's happening here.
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06:10
This individual has made the choice and is closing this water diversion,
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Ovaj pojedinac je napravio odluku
i zatvara tu vodenu podjelu,
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leaving the water in the stream.
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ostavljajući vodu u potoku.
06:17
He doesn't lose the water right,
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On ne gubi pravo na vodu,
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he just chooses to apply that right, or some portion of it,
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samo izabire kako će primjeniti to pravo,
ili neki njegov dio,
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to the stream, instead of to the land.
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na potok, umjesto na zemlju.
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Because he's the senior water-rights holder,
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Jer je on prioritetni imatelj prava na vodu,
on može očuvati vodu od drugih korisnika u potoku.
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he can protect the water from other users in the stream.
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Dobro?
06:34
OK?
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06:35
He gets paid to leave the water in the stream.
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Njemu se plaća da ostavi vodu u potoku.
Ovaj momak mjeri vodu
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This guy's measuring the water that this leaves in the stream.
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koju on ostavi u potoku.
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We then take the measured water,
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Onda uzmemo izmjerenu vodu,
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we divide it into thousand-gallon increments.
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podijelimo je na tisućite dijelove litre.
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Each increment gets a serial number and a certificate,
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Svaki od dijelova dobije serijski broj i certifikat,
i onda pivari i drugi
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and then the brewers and others buy those certificates
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kupuju te certifikate
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as a way to return water to these degraded ecosystems.
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na način da vrate vodu
u te degradirane ekosustave.
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The brewers pay to restore water to the stream.
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Pivari plaćaju
kako bi se voda vratila u potok.
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It provides a simple, inexpensive and measurable way
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To osigurava jednostavan, jeftin
i mjerljiv način
za vraćanje vode u te degradirane ekosustave,
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to return water to these degraded ecosystems,
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07:12
while giving farmers an economic choice
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dajući poljoprivrednicima ekonomski izbor
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and giving businesses concerned about their water footprints
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i dajući poduzećima koju su zabrinuta za svoj vodeni otisak
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an easy way to deal with them.
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lagan način da se s time bore.
07:20
After 140 years of conflict and 100 years of dry streams,
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Nakon 140 godina sukoba
i 100 godina suhih potoka,
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a circumstance that litigation and regulation has not solved,
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okolnosti koje parnice i regulacija
nisu mogli riješiti,
stvorili smo tržišno utemeljeno,
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we put together a market-based, willing buyer, willing seller solution --
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rješenje spremno za kupca, spremno za prodavatelja --
rješenje koje ne zahtjeva parničenje.
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a solution that does not require litigation.
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07:41
It's about giving folks concerned about their water footprints
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Radi se o davanju
ljudi koji su zabrinuti za svoj vodeni otisak
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a real opportunity to put water where it's critically needed,
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stvarnoj prilici
da stave vodu tamo gdje je kritično potrebna,
u te degradirane ekosustave,
07:51
into these degraded ecosystems,
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07:53
while at the same time providing farmers a meaningful economic choice
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dok u isto vrijeme
osigurava poljoprivrednicima
smisleni ekonomski izbor
07:59
about how their water is used.
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o tome kako se njihova voda koristi.
08:01
These transactions create allies, not enemies.
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Te transakcije stvaraju saveznike, ne neprijatelje.
08:04
They connect people rather than dividing them.
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One povezuju ljude umjesto da ih razdvajaju.
08:06
And they provide needed economic support for rural communities.
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I osiguravaju potrebnu ekonomsku podršku ruralnim zajednicama.
I ono najvažnije, stvarno rade.
08:10
And most importantly, it's working.
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08:12
We've returned more than four billion gallons of water to degraded ecosystems.
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Vratili smo više od 18 milijardi litara vode
u degradirane ekosustave.
Povezali smo vlasnike prioritetnih vodenih prava
08:17
We've connected senior water-rights holders
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s pivarima u Montani,
08:19
with brewers in Montana,
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08:20
with hotels and tea companies in Oregon,
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s hotelima i kompanijama koje proizvode čaj u Oregonu
08:23
and with high-tech companies that use a lot of water in the Southwest.
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i s visokotehnološkim kompanijama koje koriste puno vode na jugozapadu.
08:26
And when we make these connections,
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I kada radimo ta povezivanja,
08:29
we can and we do turn this ...
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možemo i pretvaramo
ovo u ovo.
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into this.
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08:34
(Applause)
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Hvala vam puno.
08:36
Thank you very much.
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08:37
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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