Take "the Other" to lunch | Elizabeth Lesser

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This room may appear to be holding 600 people,
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Čini se da u ovoj dvorani
sjedi 600 ljudi,
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but there's actually so many more,
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no stvarno nas je znatno više
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because within each one of us, there is a multitude of personalities.
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jer se u svakome od nas
krije mnoštvo osobnosti.
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I have two primary personalities
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Ja imam dvije primarne osobnosti
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that have been in conflict and conversation within me
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koje su u sukobu i razgovoru unutar mene
još od ranog djetinjstva.
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since I was a little girl.
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00:33
I call them "the mystic" and "the warrior."
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Nazivam ih "mistik"
i "ratnik".
00:37
I was born into a family of politically active intellectual atheists.
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Rođena sam u obitelji
politički aktivnih
intelektualaca ateista.
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There was this equation in my family that went something like this:
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U mojoj je obitelji postojala otprilike ovakva jednadžba:
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if you are intelligent,
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ako si inteligentan,
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you therefore are not spiritual.
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nisi duhovan.
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I was the freak of the family.
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Ja sam bila čudovište u obitelji.
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I was this weird little kid
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Bila sam uvrnuta klinka
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who wanted to have deep talks about the worlds that might exist
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koja je željela voditi dubokoumne razgovore
o svjetovima koji možda postoje
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beyond the ones we perceive with our senses.
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dalje od onih koje opažamo osjetilima.
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I wanted to know
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Željela sam znati
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if what we human beings see and hear and think
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je li ono što mi ljudi vidimo
i čujemo i mislimo
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is a full and accurate picture of reality.
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cjelovita i točna slika
stvarnosti.
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So, looking for answers,
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Tragajući za odgovorima
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I went to Catholic mass; I tagged along with my neighbors.
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otišla sam na misu u katoličku crkvu;
'šlepala' sam se sa susjedima.
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I read Sartre and Socrates.
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Čitala sam Sartrea i Sokrata.
I onda se dogodila sjajna stvar
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And then a wonderful thing happened when I was in high school:
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tijekom moje srednje škole:
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gurus from the East started washing up on the shores of America.
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gurui s Istoka
počeli su oplahnjivati obale Amerike.
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(Laughter)
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I rekoh samoj sebi,
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And I said to myself, "I wanna get me one of them."
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"Želim jednog od gurua."
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(Laughter)
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I otada
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And ever since, I've been walking the mystic path,
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koračam mističnim stazama,
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trying to peer beyond what Albert Einstein called
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nastojeći proniknuti iza
onoga što je Albert Einstein nazivao
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the "optical delusion" of everyday consciousness.
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"optičkom iluzijom
svakidašnje svijesti".
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So what did he mean by this?
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Što je mislio pod time? Pokazat ću vam.
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I'll show you.
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01:52
Take a breath right now of this clear air in this room.
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Duboko udahnite
čist zrak u ovoj dvorani.
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Now, see this strange,
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Evo, vidite ovu čudnu,
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underwater-coral-reef-looking thing?
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podvodnu stvar koja
sliči koraljnom grebenu?
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It's actually a person's trachea.
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To je zapravo ljudski dušnik.
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And those colored globs are microbes
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A ove kugle u bojama
su mikrobi
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that are actually swimming around in this room right now,
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koji zapravo plutaju u ovoj prostoriji
upravo sada, svuda oko nas.
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all around us.
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02:18
If we're blind to this simple biology,
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Ako ne vidimo tu jednostavnu biologiju,
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imagine what we're missing at the smallest subatomic level right now
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zamislite što upravo sad propuštamo
na najsitnijoj, subatomskoj razini
i na najvećim kozmičkim razinama.
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and at the grandest cosmic levels.
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02:30
My years as a mystic have made me question almost all my assumptions.
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Godine koje sam provela kao mistik
natjerale su me da preispitam
gotovo sve svoje pretpostavke.
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They've made me a proud "I-don't-know-it-all."
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Učinili su me ponosnom neznalicom svega.
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Now, when the mystic part of me jabbers on and on like this,
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No kad mistični dio mene
ovako brblja i brblja,
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the warrior rolls her eyes.
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ratnica okreće očima.
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She's concerned about what's happening in this world right now.
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Ona se pita
što se ovoga trena događa u ovom svijetu.
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She's worried.
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Zabrinuta je.
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She says, "Excuse me, I'm pissed off,
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Kaže, "Oprostite, ogorčena sam,
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and I know a few things,
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znam neke stvari
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and we better get busy about them right now."
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i bolje da se odmah njima pozabavimo."
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I've spent my life as a warrior,
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Provela sam život kao ratnica,
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working for women's issues,
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zalagala se za ženska pitanja,
radila na političkim kampanjama,
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working on political campaigns,
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being an activist for the environment.
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bila ekološka aktivistica.
Pomalo je sumanuto
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And it can be sort of crazymaking,
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housing both the mystic and the warrior in one body.
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nositi i mistika i ratnika
u jednom tijelu.
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I've always been attracted to those rare people
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Oduvijek su me privlačili
ti rijetki ljudi
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who pull that off,
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koji to skinu sa sebe,
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who devote their lives to humanity
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koji posvećuju svoje živote čovječanstvu
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with the grit of the warrior and the grace of the mystic --
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s čvrstinom ratnika
i prijaznošću mistika --
ljudi poput Martina Luthera Kinga Jr.
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people like Martin Luther King, Jr.,
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koji je napisao, "Nikad ne mogu
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who wrote, "I can never be what I ought to be
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biti ono što bih trebao
sve dok vi niste
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until you are what you ought to be."
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ono što biste trebali biti.
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"This," he wrote, "is the interrelated structure of reality."
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To", napisao je, "je međusobno povezana
struktura stvarnosti."
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Then Mother Teresa, another mystic warrior, who said,
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Potom Majka Tereza, druga mistična ratnica,
koja je izjavila, "Problem svijeta je taj
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"The problem with the world is that we draw the circle of our family
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što crtamo krug naše obitelji
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too small."
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premalen."
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And Nelson Mandela, who lives by the African concept of "ubuntu,"
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I Nelson Mandela,
koji živi prema afričkom konceptu
ubuntu,
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which means "I need you in order to be me,
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što znači da ja trebam tebe
da bih bila ja,
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and you need me in order to be you."
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a da ti trebaš mene da bi bio ti.
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Now, we all love to trot out these three mystic warriors
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I svi mi volimo predstavljati
tih troje mističnih ratnika
kao da su rođeni
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as if they were born with a "saint" gene.
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sa svetačkim genom.
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But we all actually have the same capacity that they do.
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No svi mi zapravo imamo
istu sposobnost koju oni imaju
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And we need to do their work now.
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i trebamo činiti
njihovo djelo.
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I'm deeply disturbed
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Duboko sam potresena
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by the ways in which all of our cultures are demonizing "the other,"
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načinima na koje sve naše kulture
demoniziraju suprotnu stranu
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by the voice we're giving to the most divisive among us.
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glasom koji dajemo onome
koji uzrokuje najviše podjele među nama.
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Listen to these titles of some of the best-selling books
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Čujte naslove
nekih od najprodavanijih knjiga
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from both sides of the political divide
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s obje strane političke podjele
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here in the US:
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ovdje u SAD-u.
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"Liberalism is a Mental Disorder,"
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"Liberalizam je mentalni poremećaj",
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"Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot,"
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"Rush Limbaugh je veliki debeli idiot",
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"Pinheads and Patriots,"
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"Glupani i domoljubi",
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"Arguing with Idiots."
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"Raspravljanje s idiotima".
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They're supposedly tongue-in-cheek,
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Navodno su mišljeni ironično,
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but they're actually dangerous.
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no zapravo su opasni.
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Now here's a title that may sound familiar,
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A tu je i naslov koji može zvučati poznato,
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but whose author may surprise you:
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ali čiji će vas autor iznenaditi:
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"Four and a Half Years of Struggle Against Lies,
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"Četiri i pol godine borbe
protiv laži, gluposti
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Stupidity and Cowardice."
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i kukavičluka".
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Who wrote that?
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Tko je to napisao?
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That was Adolf Hitler's first title for "Mein Kampf" -- "My Struggle" --
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Bio je to prvi naslov Adolfa Hitlera
za "Mein Kampf" -- "Moju borbu" --
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the book that launched the Nazi Party.
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knjigu koja je lansirala nacističku stranku.
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The worst eras in human history,
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Najgora razdoblja u povijesti čovječanstva,
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whether in Cambodia or Germany or Rwanda --
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bilo to u Kambodži ili Njemačkoj
ili Ruandi,
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they start like this, with negative otherizing.
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započinjala su ovako, s negativnim odnosom prema drugima.
A onda poprime oblik
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And then they morph into violent extremism.
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nasilnog ekstremizma.
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This is why I'm launching a new initiative.
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Upravo zato pokrećem novu inicijativu.
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And it's to help all of us, myself included,
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Da svima nama pomogne,
uključujući i mene,
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to counteract the tendency to otherize.
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da se suprotstavimo tendenciji
isticanja negativnih razlika.
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And I realize we're all busy people,
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Shvaćam da smo svi prezaposleni,
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so don't worry, you can do this on a lunch break.
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no ne brinite, možete to činiti tijekom pauze za ručak.
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I'm calling my initiative "Take the Other to Lunch."
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Svoju inicijativu nazivam,
"Povedi Suprotnu stranu na ručak".
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If you are a Republican,
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Ako ste
republikanac,
povedite na ručak demokrata.
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you can take a Democrat to lunch.
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06:14
Or if you're a Democrat,
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Ako ste demokrat,
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think of it as taking a Republican to lunch.
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razmislite da
na ručak povedete republikanca.
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Now, if the idea of taking any of these people to lunch
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Ako od same pomisli na ručak s tim osobama
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makes you lose your appetite,
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gubite apetit,
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(Laughter)
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06:27
I suggest you start more local,
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predlažem da počnete još lokalnije
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because there is no shortage of the other right in your own neighborhood:
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jer nije nestašica suprotnih strana
ni u vašem vlastitom susjedstvu.
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maybe that person who worships at the mosque
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Možda onu osobu
koja štuje u džamiji, ili u
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or the church or the synagogue down the street;
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crkvi ili sinagogi, niže u ulici,
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or someone from the other side of the abortion conflict;
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ili nekoga s druge strane
sukoba o pobačaju,
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or maybe your brother-in-law who doesn't believe in global warming --
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ili možda vašeg šogora koji
ne vjeruje u globalno zatopljenje --
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(Laughter)
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06:53
anyone whose lifestyle may frighten you
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bilo koga čiji vas način života plaši
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or whose point of view makes smoke come out of your ears.
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ili od čijeg vam gledišta
izlazi para na uši.
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A couple of weeks ago,
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Prije nekoliko tjedana
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I took a conservative Tea Party woman to lunch.
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povela sam na ručak jednu konzervativku.
07:11
Now, on paper, she passed my "smoking ears" test:
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Na papiru prošla je moj test pare na uši.
07:14
(Laughter)
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07:15
she's an activist from the Right,
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Ona je aktivistica desnice,
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and I'm an activist from the Left.
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a ja sam aktivistica ljevice.
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We used some guidelines to keep our conversation elevated.
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I usvojile smo nekoliko smjernica
da bismo održale konverzaciju na uljudnoj razini,
a i vi ih možete usvojiti,
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And you can use them, too,
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07:27
because I know you're all going to take an other to lunch.
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jer znam da ćete svi povesti
suprotstavljenu stranu na ručak.
07:31
So first of all, decide on a goal:
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Stoga najprije utvrdite cilj:
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to get to know one person from a group you may have negatively stereotyped.
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upoznati jednu osobu iz
skupine o kojoj imate negativno stereotipno mišljenje.
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And then, before you get together,
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A potom, prije nego što se sastanete,
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agree on some ground rules.
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dogovorite neka temeljna pravila.
07:45
My Tea Party lunch mate and I came up with these:
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Moja konzervativka i ja
dogovorile smo ovo:
Ne uvjeravaj, ne brani
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"Don't persuade, defend or interrupt;
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niti prekidaj.
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be curious, be conversational, be real;
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Budi znatiželjna,
raspoložena za razgovor, realna.
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and listen."
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I slušaj.
I otuda smo zaronile.
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From there, we dove in, and we used these questions:
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I koristile smo ova pitanja
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"Share some of your life experiences with me --
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Podijeli neka životna iskustva sa mnom.
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what issues deeply concern you?
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Koja te pitanja
duboko zaokupljaju?
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And what have you always wanted to ask someone from the other side?"
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Što si oduvijek htjela pitati nekoga sa
suprotne strane?
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My lunch partner and I came away with some really important insights,
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Moja partnerica za ručak i ja
došle smo do zaista važnih uvida, a ja
ću s vama podijeliti samo jedno.
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and I'm going to share just one with you.
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08:23
I think it has relevance to any problem between people anywhere.
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Mislim da je relevantan
za bilo koji problem
između ljudi bilo gdje.
08:29
I asked her why her side makes such outrageous allegations and lies
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Pitala sam je zašto njezina strana
iznosi takve opake tvrdnje i
laži o mojoj strani.
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about my side.
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08:37
"What?" she wanted to know.
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"Što?", pitala je.
08:39
"Like, we're a bunch of elitist, morally corrupt terrorist-lovers."
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"Npr. mi smo banda
elitističkih,
moralno pokvarenih ljubitelja terorizma."
08:45
Well, she was shocked.
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Bila je šokirana.
08:47
She thought my side beat up on her side way more often --
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Držala je da moja strana
češće napada njezinu stranu,
da ih nazivamo glupim
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that we called them brainless, gun-toting racists.
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rasistima koji potežu oružje.
08:57
And we both marveled at the labels
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Obje smo se čudile
etiketama koje ne pristaju
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that fit none of the people we actually know.
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nikome od ljudi koje
stvarno poznajemo.
09:05
And since we had established some trust,
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I nakon što smo uspostavile povjerenje,
09:07
we believed in each other's sincerity.
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vjerovale smo u iskrenost druge strane.
09:11
We agreed we'd speak up in our own communities
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Dogovorile smo da ćemo u našim zajednicama dići
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when we witnessed the kind of "otherizing" talk
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glas kad budemo svjedoci
negativnog govora protiv druge strane
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that can wound and fester into paranoia
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koji može povrijediti
i uzrokovati paranoju
i biti korišten od onih na rubu
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and then be used by those on the fringes
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09:25
to incite.
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huškanja.
Do kraja našeg ručka
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By the end of our lunch, we acknowledged each other's openness.
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priznale smo jedna drugoj otvorenost.
09:31
Neither of us had tried to change the other,
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Nijedna od nas nije pokušala promijeniti drugu.
09:34
but we also hadn't pretended
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Ali nismo se niti zavaravale da će se
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that our differences were just going to melt away
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naše razlike jednostavno rastopiti
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after a lunch.
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nakon jednog ručka.
09:45
Instead, we had taken first steps together,
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Umjesto toga, poduzele smo
prve zajedničke korake,
mimo naših spontanih reakcija,
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past our knee-jerk reactions
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u smjeru ubuntua,
09:52
to the ubuntu place,
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09:53
which is the only place
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što je jedino mjesto
gdje će se pronaći
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where solutions to our most intractable-seeming problems
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rješenja naših naoko tvrdokornih
problema.
10:02
will be found.
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Koga biste trebali pozvati na ručak?
10:04
So who should you invite to lunch?
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10:06
Next time you catch yourself in the act of otherizing,
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Sljedeći put kad se uhvatite u
činu negativnog govora o drugima,
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that'll be your clue.
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to će vam biti putokaz.
10:12
And what might happen at your lunch?
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I što bi se moglo dogoditi na ručku?
10:15
Will the heavens open
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Hoće li se nebesa otvoriti i
10:16
and "We are the World" play over the restaurant sound system?
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zasvirati "Mi smo svijet" na restoranskom razglasu?
10:20
Probably not.
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Vjerojatno ne.
10:22
Because ubuntu work is slow, and it's difficult.
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Jer ubuntu rad je polagan,
težak.
10:26
It's two people dropping the pretense of being know-it-alls.
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Tu su dva čovjeka
koji napuštaju privid
da su sveznajući.
10:32
It's two people, two warriors, dropping their weapons
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Tu su dva čovjeka,
dva ratnika,
koji spuštaju oružje i
10:38
and reaching toward each other.
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posežu jedan za drugim.
10:41
Here's how the great Persian poet Rumi put it:
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Kako je to lijepo rekao veliki perzijski pjesnik Rumi:
"Ponad naših ideja
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"Out beyond ideas of wrong-doing and right-doing,
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o činjenju zla i dobra,
10:51
there is a field.
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nalazi se polje.
10:53
I'll meet you there."
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Tamo te čekam."
(pljesak)
10:56
(Applause)
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