Mark Plotkin: What the people of the Amazon know that you don’t

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Translator: Ainhoa Eguren Bengoa Reviewer: Jone Aliri Lazcano
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Now, I'm an ethnobotanist.
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Hasteko, etnobotanikaria naiz.
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That's a scientist who works in the rainforest
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Oihan tropikalean bizi direnek landareak nola
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to document how people use local plants.
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erabiltzen dituzten aztertzen duen zientzialaria, alegia.
00:19
I've been doing this for a long time,
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Luzaroan aritu naiz honetan,
00:22
and I want to tell you,
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eta esan nahi dizuet
00:24
these people know these forests and these medicinal treasures
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bertakoek oihanak eta altxor medizinalak ondotxo ezagutzen dituztela,
00:27
better than we do and better than we ever will.
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guk baino hobeto, guk inoiz ezagutuko duguna baino hobeto.
00:30
But also, these cultures,
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Baina, gainera, kultura horiek,
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these indigenous cultures,
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kultura indigena horiek,
00:34
are disappearing much faster than the forests themselves.
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oihanak baino askoz azkarrago ari dira desagertzen.
Amazoniako oihan tropikaleko espezie ikusgarrienak
00:39
And the greatest and most endangered species
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in the Amazon Rainforest
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eta desagertzeteko arrisku handiena dutenak
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is not the jaguar,
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ez dira jaguarrak,
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it's not the harpy eagle,
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edo harpia arranoak:
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it's the isolated and uncontacted tribes.
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kontaktatu gabeko tribu isolatuak dira.
00:51
Now four years ago, I injured my foot in a climbing accident
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Duela lau urte oin batean min hartu nuen mendiko istripu batean,
00:54
and I went to the doctor.
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eta medikuarengana joan nintzen.
00:56
She gave me heat,
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Beroa agindu zidan,
00:57
she gave me cold, aspirin,
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gero hotza, aspirina,
01:00
narcotic painkillers, anti-inflammatories,
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analgesiko narkotikoak, antinflamatorioak
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cortisone shots.
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eta kortisona-txertoak.
01:05
It didn't work.
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Ez zuten funtzionatu.
01:07
Several months later,
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Hainbat hilabeteren buruan
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I was in the northeast Amazon,
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Amazoniako ipar-ekialdean nengoela,
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walked into a village,
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herrixka batera iritsi
01:13
and the shaman said, "You're limping."
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eta xamanak esan zidan: herrenka zatoz.
01:16
And I'll never forget this as long as I live.
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Hura ez dut ahaztuko bizi naizen artean.
01:18
He looked me in the face and he said,
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Aurpegira begiratu eta esan zidan:
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"Take off your shoe and give me your machete."
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erantzi oinetakoa eta emadazu zure aihotza.
01:24
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
01:26
He walked over to a palm tree
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Palmondo batera hurbildu zen,
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and carved off a fern,
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eta hostaila bat ebaki zuen.
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threw it in the fire,
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Sutara bota,
01:31
applied it to my foot,
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nire oina harekin igurtzi,
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threw it in a pot of water,
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urez beteriko ontzi batera bota
01:34
and had me drink the tea.
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eta te hura edanarazi zidan.
01:37
The pain disappeared for seven months.
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Zazpi hilabetean ez nuen minik eduki.
01:40
When it came back, I went to see the shaman again.
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Mina itzuli zitzaidanean, xamana ikustera joan nintzen berriz.
01:42
He gave me the same treatment,
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Tratamendu berdina eman zidan,
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and I've been cured for three years now.
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eta ordutik hiru urte daramatzat sendatuta.
01:47
Who would you rather be treated by?
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Nork sendatzea gustatuko litzaizueke?
01:50
(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
01:53
Now, make no mistake — Western medicine
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Tira, ez zaitezte nahastu. Mendebaldeko medikuntza
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is the most successful system of healing ever devised,
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inoiz izan den sendatze-sistema arrakastatsuena da,
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but there's plenty of holes in it.
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baina hutsune asko ditu.
02:01
Where's the cure for breast cancer?
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Non dago bularreko minbiziaren sendagaia?
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Where's the cure for schizophrenia?
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Non dago eskizofreniarena?
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Where's the cure for acid reflux?
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Non dago errefluxu gastroesofagikoarena?
02:07
Where's the cure for insomnia?
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Non dago loezinaren sendagaia?
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The fact is that these people
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Kontua da oihaneko jendeak,
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can sometimes, sometimes, sometimes
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oso-oso noizbehinka bada ere,
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cure things we cannot.
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guk sendatu ezin ditugun gaitzak senda ditzakeela.
02:15
Here you see a medicine man in the northeast Amazon
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Hemen sendalari bat ikus dezakezue Amazoniako ipar ekialdean
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treating leishmaniasis,
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leishmaniasia sendatzen,
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a really nasty protozoal disease
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munduan 12 milioi pertsonari eragiten dion
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that afflicts 12 million people around the world.
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gaixotasun protozoal larria.
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Western treatment are injections of antimony.
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Mendebaldean antimonio-txertoak erabiltzen dira tratamenduan.
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They're painful, they're expensive,
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Mingarriak dira, garestiak dira,
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and they're probably not good for your heart;
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eta ziurrenez bihotzarentzako txarrak;
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it's a heavy metal.
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metal astuna da.
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This man cures it with three plants from the Amazon Rainforest.
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Gizon honek Amazoniako oihaneko hiru landare erabiltzen ditu sendatzeko.
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This is the magic frog.
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Hau igel magikoa da.
02:39
My colleague, the late great Loren McIntyre,
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Nire lankide bikain Loren McIntyre hilberria,
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discoverer of the source lake of the Amazon,
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Amazonas ibaiaren sorburu-lakua aurkitu zuena,
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Laguna McIntyre in the Peruvian Andes,
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Peruar Andeetako McIntyre laguna, alegia,
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was lost on the Peru-Brazil border about 30 years ago.
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galdu egin zen Peru eta Brazil arteko mugan duela 30 urte inguru.
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He was rescued by a group of isolated Indians called the Matsés.
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Matses indio isolatu batzuek salbatu zuten.
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They beckoned for him to follow them into the forest, which he did.
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Keinuen bidez eurekin oihanera joan zedin esan zioten, eta hala egin zuen.
02:58
There, they took out palm leaf baskets.
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Han, palmondoen hostoekin egindako saskiak hartu zituzten.
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There, they took out these green monkey frogs —
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Gero, tximino-igel berdeak hartu zituzten.
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these are big suckers, they're like this —
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Miazkatzen bikainak dira eta neurri hau dute.
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and they began licking them.
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Orduan nire laguna miazkatzen hasi ziren.
03:07
It turns out, they're highly hallucinogenic.
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Kontua da haluzinazio ikaragarriak sortzen dituela.
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McIntyre wrote about this and it was read by the editor of High Times magazine.
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McIntyrek horretaz idatzi eta High Times aldizkariko editoreak irakurri zuen.
03:15
You see that ethnobotanists have friends in all sorts of strange cultures.
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Ikusten duzue etnobotanikariok kultura arraroenetan ere lagunak dauzkagula.
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This guy decided he would go down to the Amazon and give it a whirl,
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Editore hark Amazoniara joan eta probatzea erabaki zuen,
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or give it a lick, and he did, and he wrote,
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igelen miazkadak probatzea. Horixe egin, eta horretaz idatzi zuen:
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"My blood pressure went through the roof,
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"Odolaren presioa zeruraino igo zitzaidan,
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I lost full control of my bodily functions,
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gorputzaren funtzioen kontrola erabat galdu nuen,
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I passed out in a heap,
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bapatean konortea galdu nuen,
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I woke up in a hammock six hours later,
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hamaka batean esnatu nintzen sei ordu beranduago,
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felt like God for two days."
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eta Jainkoa nintzela uste izan nuen bi egunez".
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(Laughter)
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03:39
An Italian chemist read this and said,
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(Barreak)
Italiar kimikari batek hori irakurri, eta zera esan zuen:
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"I'm not really interested in the theological aspects of the green monkey frog.
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"Nik ez dut interesik tximino-igelaren alderdi teologikoan.
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What's this about the change in blood pressure?"
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Zer gertatzen da odolaren presioaren aldaketarekin?".
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Now, this is an Italian chemist
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Italiar kimikari hori
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who's working on a new treatment for high blood pressure
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odolaren presio altua kontrolatzeko tratamendu berri batekin lanean ari da,
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based on peptides in the skin of the green monkey frog,
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tximino-igel berdearen azaleko peptidoak oinarri dituena.
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and other scientists are looking
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Beste zientzialari batzuk botikek eragiten ez dioten
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at a cure for drug-resistant Staph aureus.
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Staphylococcus aureus gaitzarentzat sendabidea bilatzen dabiltza.
04:02
How ironic if these isolated Indians and their magic frog
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Ironikoa litzateke isolatutako indioak eta euren igel magikoa
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prove to be one of the cures.
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izatea sendabidea.
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Here's an ayahuasca shaman
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Amazonia ipar-mendebaldeko
aiahuaska xaman bat da hau, eta yaye ospakizunean dago.
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in the northwest Amazon, in the middle of a yage ceremony.
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04:12
I took him to Los Angeles to meet a foundation officer
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Behin Los Angelesera eraman nuen erakunde bateko arduradunarengana,
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looking for support for monies to protect their culture.
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euren kultura babesteko dirulaguntzak lortzeko asmoz.
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This fellow looked at the medicine man, and he said,
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Arduradunak sendalariari begiratu eta esan zion:
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"You didn't go to medical school, did you?"
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"Ez duzu medikuntza-ikasketarik, ez da hala?"
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The shaman said, "No, I did not."
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Xamanak ezetz erantzun zion.
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He said, "Well, then what can you know about healing?"
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Orduan gizonak: "Tira, orduan zer jakingo duzu zuk sendabideez".
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The shaman looked at him and he said,
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Xamanak hari begiratu eta:
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"You know what? If you have an infection, go to a doctor.
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"Badakizu zer? Infekzio bat duzunean, joan medikuarengana.
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But many human afflictions are diseases of the heart, the mind and the spirit.
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Baina gizakiaren arazoetariko asko bihotzekoak, burukoak eta espirituarenak dira.
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Western medicine can't touch those. I cure them."
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Mendebaldeko medikuntzak ez ditu horiek ukitzen. Nik, sendatu egiten ditut".
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(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
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But all is not rosy in learning from nature about new medicines.
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Baina naturako botikei buruz ikastean guztia ez da arrosa kolorekoa.
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This is a viper from Brazil,
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Hau Brazilgo sugegorri bat da.
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the venom of which was studied at the Universidade de São Paulo here.
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Bere pozoia São Pauloko unibertsitaten aztertu zuten,
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It was later developed into ACE inhibitors.
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eta inibitzaile entzimatikoak egiteko erabili zen gero.
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This is a frontline treatment for hypertension.
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Hori da hipertentsioari aurre egiteko tratamendurik aurreratuena.
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Hypertension causes over 10 percent
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Hipertentsioa da munduan egunero gertatzen diren
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of all deaths on the planet every day.
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heriotzen %10aren erantzulea.
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This is a $4 billion industry
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Brazildar sugearen pozoinean
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based on venom from a Brazilian snake,
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oinarritutako industriak ia 1,7 bilioi €-ko balioa du,
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and the Brazilians did not get a nickel.
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eta Brazildarrek ez dute zentimo bat ere jaso trukean.
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This is not an acceptable way of doing business.
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Ezin dugu onartu negozioak era horretan egitea.
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The rainforest has been called the greatest expression of life on Earth.
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Oihan tropikala Lurreko bizitzaren adierazpen garbiena dela esan ohi da.
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There's a saying in Suriname that I dearly love:
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Surinamen badute nik biziki maite dudan esaera bat:
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"The rainforests hold answers to questions we have yet to ask."
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Oihan tropikalak guk galdetu gabeko galderen erantzunak gordetzen ditu.
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But as you all know, it's rapidly disappearing.
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Baina dakizuen moduan, ezin azkarrago ari da desagertzen.
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Here in Brazil, in the Amazon,
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Hemen, Brazilen, Amazonian,
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around the world.
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eta mundu osoan zehar.
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I took this picture from a small plane
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Argazki hau hegazkin txiki batetik atera nuen,
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flying over the eastern border of the Xingu indigenous reserve
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Mato Grosso estatuko Xingu indigenen erreserbaren gainetik
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in the state of Mato Grosso to the northwest of here.
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pasatzean, hemendik ipar-mendebaldera.
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The top half of the picture,
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Ikusten duzue non bizi diren indioak,
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you see where the Indians live.
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argazkiaren goiko erdian.
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The line through the middle
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Erdialdeko lerroa
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is the eastern border of the reserve.
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erreserbaren ekialdeko muga da.
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Top half Indians, bottom half white guys.
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Erditik gora, indioak; erditik behera, zuriak.
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Top half wonder drugs,
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Erditik gora, sendagai miragarriak;
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bottom half just a bunch of skinny-ass cows.
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erditik behera, ipurdi mehardun behi batzuk besterik ez;
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Top half carbon sequestered in the forest where it belongs,
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erditik gora, oihanaren parte den karbonoa lapurtzen diete;
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bottom half carbon in the atmosphere
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erditik behera, karbonoa daukate airean,
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where it's driving climate change.
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klima-aldaketari eraginez.
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In fact, the number two cause
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Hain zuzen, basoen suntsiketa da
06:17
of carbon being released into the atmosphere
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atmosferara karbono dioxidoa
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is forest destruction.
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askatzeko bigarren arrazoi nagusia.
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But in talking about destruction,
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Baina suntsiketari buruz ari garenez,
06:24
it's important to keep in mind
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garrantzitsua da gogoan izatea
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that the Amazon is the mightiest landscape of all.
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Amazonia dela paisaia guztietan indartsuena.
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It's a place of beauty and wonder.
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Edertasunaren eta mirarien herria da.
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The biggest anteater in the world
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Munduko hartz inurrijale handiena
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lives in the rain forest,
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oihan tropikalean bizi da,
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tips the scale at 90 pounds.
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eta 40 kg-tik gora pisatzen ditu.
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The goliath bird-eating spider
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Goliat tarantula txorizalea
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is the world's largest spider.
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munduko armiarmarik handiena da
06:43
It's found in the Amazon as well.
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eta hori ere Amazonian bizi da.
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The harpy eagle wingspan is over seven feet.
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Harpia arranoak bi metrotik gorako hego-zabalera dauka.
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And the black cayman —
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Eta kaiman beltza,
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these monsters can tip the scale at over half a ton.
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tonelada erdiko pisua izan dezakeena,
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They're known to be man-eaters.
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giza jalea dela diote.
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The anaconda, the largest snake,
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Anakonda: sugerik handiena.
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the capybara, the largest rodent.
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Kapibara: karraskaririk handiena.
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A specimen from here in Brazil
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Hemen, Brazilen, 91 kg-ko pisua
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tipped the scale at 201 pounds.
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neurtu zioten ale bati.
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Let's visit where these creatures live,
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Goazen izaki hauek bizi diren tokira,
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the northeast Amazon,
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Amazoniako ipar-ekialdera,
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home to the Akuriyo tribe.
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Akuriyo tribuaren bizilekura.
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Uncontacted peoples hold a mystical and iconic role
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Kontaktatu gabeko herriek rol mistiko eta ikonikoa
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in our imagination.
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daukate gure irudimenean.
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These are the people who know nature best.
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Hori da natura ondoen ezagutzen duen jendea.
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These are the people who truly live
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Hori da benetan naturarekin
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in total harmony with nature.
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erabateko harmonian bizi den jendea.
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By our standards, some would dismiss these people as primitive.
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Gure estandarrak kontuan izanik, batzuek primitibotzat hartuko lituzkete.
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"They don't know how to make fire,
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Surik pizten ez dakitela,
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or they didn't when they were first contacted."
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edo lehen aldiz kontaktuan jarri zirenean behintzat ez zekitela.
07:37
But they know the forest far better than we do.
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Baina guk baino askoz hobeto ezagutzen dute oihana.
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The Akuriyos have 35 words for honey,
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Akuriyoek 35 hitz dauzkate "eztia" esateko,
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and other Indians look up to them
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eta beste indioek miresmenez begiratzen diete,
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as being the true masters of the emerald realm.
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erreinu esmeraldako nagusiak balira bezala.
07:49
Here you see the face of my friend Pohnay.
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Hemen nire lagun Pohnay ikus dezakezue.
07:52
When I was a teenager rocking out
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Ni nerabea nintzenean, eta Rolling Stones
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to the Rolling Stones in my hometown of New Orleans,
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rockeroen atzetik nenbilenean nire jaioterri New Orleansen,
07:56
Pohnay was a forest nomad
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Pohnay oihaneko nomada bat zen,
07:58
roaming the jungles of the northeast Amazon
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Amazonia ipar-ekialdeko oihanetan
08:01
in a small band, looking for game,
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hara-honaka zebilena taldetxo batekin,
08:04
looking for medicinal plants,
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dibertsio bila, landare medizinalen bila,
08:06
looking for a wife,
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emazte baten bila
08:08
in other small nomadic bands.
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eta beste talde nomada batzuen bila.
08:10
But it's people like these
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Baina Ponhay bezalako jendeak
08:12
that know things that we don't,
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guk ez dakigun gauza asko daki,
08:14
and they have lots of lessons to teach us.
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eta lezio ugari dauka guri irakasteko.
08:18
However, if you go into most of the forests of the Amazon,
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Dena den, Amazoniako oihaneko txoko gehienetan
08:22
there are no indigenous peoples.
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ez da bizi indigenarik.
08:24
This is what you find:
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Hara joanez gero zizelkatutako harkaitzak aurkituko dituzu,
08:25
rock carvings which indigenous peoples,
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jente indigenak, kontaktatu gabekoak,
08:29
uncontacted peoples, used to sharpen the edge of the stone axe.
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harrizko aizkorak zorrozteko erabilitako harkaitzak.
08:33
These cultures that once danced,
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Behin batean dantza eta maitasuna egiten zuten kultura haietatik,
08:35
made love, sang to the gods,
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jainkoei abesten zieten haietatik,
08:38
worshipped the forest,
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eta oihana gurtzen zutenetatik,
08:39
all that's left is an imprint in stone, as you see here.
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atzean ikusten diren harri markatuak besterik ez dira geratzen.
08:43
Let's move to the western Amazon,
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Goazen mendebaldeko Amazoniara,
08:46
which is really the epicenter of isolated peoples.
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herri isolatuen epizentrora.
08:49
Each of these dots represents
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Puntu hauetako bakoitzak
kontaktatu gabeko tribu bana erakusten du.
08:51
a small, uncontacted tribe,
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08:53
and the big reveal today is we believe there are 14 or 15 isolated groups
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Aipagarria dena zera da, soilik kolonbiar Amazonian
08:58
in the Colombian Amazon alone.
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14 edo 15 talde isolatu daudela.
09:01
Why are these people isolated?
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Zergatik dauden isolatuta?
Badakite existitzen garela, badakite mundu bat dagoela oihanetik haratago.
09:04
They know we exist, they know there's an outside world.
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09:06
This is a form of resistance.
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Erresistentzia-mota bat da haiena.
09:08
They have chosen to remain isolated,
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Isolatuta gelditzea erabaki dute,
09:10
and I think it is their human right to remain so.
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euren ustez giza eskubide bat delako.
Zergatik ezkutatzen dira gainerako gizakiengandik?
09:14
Why are these the tribes that hide from man?
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09:16
Here's why.
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Hona hemen zergatia:
09:17
Obviously, some of this was set off in 1492.
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Alde batetik, 1492. urteak eragina izan zuen, noski.
09:21
But at the turn of the last century
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Baina XX. mendearen hasierako
09:23
was the rubber trade.
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kautxuaren sukarra izan zen eragile nagusia.
09:25
The demand for natural rubber,
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Amazoniako oihaneko
09:26
which came from the Amazon,
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kautxu naturalaren eskaria
09:28
set off the botanical equivalent of a gold rush.
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urre-arrapalada baten baliokide botanikoa izan zen.
09:31
Rubber for bicycle tires,
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Kautxua bizikleten gurpiletarako,
09:33
rubber for automobile tires,
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kautxua autoen gurpiletarako,
09:35
rubber for zeppelins.
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kautxua zeppelinetarako.
09:37
It was a mad race to get that rubber,
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Kautxua lortzeko lasterketa zoro bihurtu zen hura,
09:40
and the man on the left, Julio Arana,
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eta ezkerrean ikus dezakezuen gizona, Julio Arana,
09:42
is one of the true thugs of the story.
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istorioko maltzurrenetariko bat dugu.
09:45
His people, his company,
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Bere menpekoek, bere enpresak
09:47
and other companies like them
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eta antzeko beste enpresek
09:49
killed, massacred, tortured, butchered Indians
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orain ikusiko dituzuen Witotoak eta beste zenbait indio
09:52
like the Witotos you see on the right hand side of the slide.
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hil, sarraskitu, torturatu edo sakailatu egin zituzten.
09:57
Even today, when people come out of the forest,
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Gaur egun ere, oihanetik ateratzen badira
10:00
the story seldom has a happy ending.
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istorioa gutxitan amaitzen da ondo.
10:02
These are Nukaks. They were contacted in the '80s.
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Hauek Nukak indioak dira, 80ko hamarkadan kontaktuan jarri zirenak.
10:05
Within a year, everybody over 40 was dead.
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Urtebetera, 40 urtetik gorako guztiak hil egin ziren.
10:09
And remember, these are preliterate societies.
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Eta gogoratu alfabetatu gabeko gizarteak direla.
10:12
The elders are the libraries.
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Helduak dira gazteen liburutegiak.
10:13
Every time a shaman dies,
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Xaman bat hiltzen den aldiro,
10:15
it's as if a library has burned down.
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liburutegi bat erre balitz bezala da.
10:19
They have been forced off their lands.
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Euren lurretatik alde egitera behartuak izan dira.
10:21
The drug traffickers have taken over the Nukak lands,
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Droga-trafikatzaileek Nukaken lurrak hartu dituzte,
10:25
and the Nukaks live as beggars
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eta orain Nukakak eskale gisa bizi dira
10:27
in public parks in eastern Colombia.
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Kolonbia ekialdeko parke publikoetan.
10:30
From the Nukak lands, I want to take you to the southwest,
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Nukak herritik hego-mendebaldera eraman nahi zaituztet,
10:33
to the most spectacular landscape in the world:
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munduko paisaiarik ikusgarrienera:
10:36
Chiribiquete National Park.
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Chiribiquete parke nazionalera.
10:38
It was surrounded by three isolated tribes
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Hiru tribu isolatu bizi ziren inguruan,
10:40
and thanks to the Colombian government and Colombian colleagues,
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eta Kolonbiako gobernuari eta lankideei esker
10:43
it has now expanded.
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parkea askoz handiagoa da orain,
10:45
It's bigger than the state of Maryland.
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Maryland estatua baino handiagoa.
10:47
It is a treasure trove of botanical diversity.
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Aniztasun botanikoaren altxor ezkutua da.
10:51
It was first explored botanically in 1943
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Nire maisu Richard Schultes-ek
1943an aztertu zuen lehen aldiz
10:54
by my mentor, Richard Schultes,
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botanikaren ikuspuntutik.
10:55
seen here atop the Bell Mountain,
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Hemen, Bell mendiaren gailurrean dago,
10:58
the sacred mountains of the Karijonas.
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Karijona herriaren mendi sakratuan.
11:01
And let me show you what it looks like today.
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Utz iezadazue orain Chiriquete gainean hegan egitea
11:03
Flying over Chiribiquete,
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zer den erakusten,
11:05
realize that these lost world mountains are still lost.
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mundu galdu honetako mendiak oraindik galduta daudela erakusten.
11:07
No scientist has been atop them.
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Zientzialari bat ere ez da egon gailur horietan.
11:09
In fact, nobody has been atop the Bell Mountain
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Egia esan, inor ez da egon Bell mendiaren gailurrean
11:11
since Schultes in '43.
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1943an Schultes igo zenetik.
11:13
And we'll end up here with the Bell Mountain
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Hemen geldituko gara, Bell mendia
11:16
just to the east of the picture.
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irudiaren ezkerraldean dugula.
11:19
Let me show you what it looks like today.
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Ikus ezazue gaur nolako itxura daukan.
11:21
Not only is this a treasure trove of botanical diversity,
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Ez da bakarrik aniztasun botanikoaren altxor ezkutu bat,
11:24
not only is it home to three isolated tribes,
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ez da bakarrik hiru tribu isolaturen etxea,
11:27
but it's the greatest treasure trove
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munduko aurrekoloniar artearen
11:29
of pre-Colombian art in the world:
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gotorleku baliotsuena da:
11:32
over 200,000 paintings.
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200.000 margolan baino gehiago daude.
11:35
The Dutch scientist Thomas van der Hammen
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Thomas van der Hammen holandar zientzialariak
11:38
described this as the Sistine Chapel of the Amazon Rainforest.
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Amazoniar oihan tropikaleko Sixtoren kapera dela esan zuen.
11:43
But move from Chiribiquete down to the southeast,
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Utz dezagun atzean Chiribiquete eta goazen berriro
11:46
again in the Colombian Amazon.
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hego-ekialdera, kolonbiar Amazoniara.
11:48
Remember, the Colombian Amazon is bigger than New England.
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Gogoratu kolonbiar Amazonia Ingalaterra Berria baino handiagoa dela.
11:50
The Amazon's a big forest,
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Amazonia oihan handia da,
11:52
and Brazil's got a big part of it,
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eta zati handi bat Brazili dagokio,
11:54
but not all of it.
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baina ez guztia.
11:55
Moving down to these two national parks,
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Goazen hegoaldera kolonbiar Amazoniako
11:57
Cahuinari and Puré
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bi parke nazionaletara,
11:59
in the Colombian Amazon —
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Cahuinari eta Puré parkeetara;
12:00
that's the Brazilian border to the right —
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eskuinaldean Brazilekiko muga dago.
12:03
it's home to several groups
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Eremu hori kontaktatu gabeko
12:05
of isolated and uncontacted peoples.
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hainbat talde isolaturen etxea da.
12:07
To the trained eye, you can look at the roofs
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Ondo begiratuz gero, maloca edo etxe komunitarioen
12:09
of these malocas, these longhouses,
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teilatuak ikus daitezke,
12:11
and see that there's cultural diversity.
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eta aniztasun kulturala dagoela antzeman.
12:13
These are, in fact, different tribes.
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Izan ere, tribu desberdinetakoak dira.
12:15
As isolated as these areas are,
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Eremu hauek isolatuta badaude ere,
12:18
let me show you how the outside world is crowding in.
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utz iezadazue erakusten kanpoko mundua nola ari den indarrez sartzen.
12:22
Here we see trade and transport increased in Putumayo.
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Hemen ikusten dugu Putumayoko merkataritza eta garraioaren gorakada.
12:25
With the diminishment of the Civil War in Colombia,
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Kolonbian gerra zibila baretzearekin batera
12:27
the outside world is showing up.
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kanpoko mundua ate joka hasi zen.
12:30
To the north, we have illegal gold mining,
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Iparraldean legez kanpoko urre-meatzeak daude,
12:33
also from the east, from Brazil.
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baita ekialdean, Brazil aldean ere.
12:34
There's increased hunting and fishing for commercial purposes.
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Helburu komertzialdun ehiza eta arrantza gehitu da.
12:38
We see illegal logging coming from the south,
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Legez kanpoko zuhaitz-mozketa hasi da hegoaldean.
12:41
and drug runners are trying to move through the park
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Eta droga-trafikatzaileak Brazilera igaro nahi dute
12:44
and get into Brazil.
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parkea zeharkatuz.
12:46
This, in the past, is why you didn't mess
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Iraganean hau zen indio isolatuekin
traturik ez izateko arrazoia.
12:49
with isolated Indians.
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12:50
And if it looks like this picture is out of focus
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Argazkia fokutik kanpo dagoela irudituko zaizue,
12:52
because it was taken in a hurry, here's why.
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presaka atera baitzuten. Hemen duzue arrazoia:
12:55
(Laughter)
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(Barreak)
12:58
This looks like — (Applause)
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Brazildar Amazoniako — (Barreak)
13:04
This looks like a hangar from the Brazilian Amazon.
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Brazildar Amazoniako hegazkinen tailer bat dirudi.
13:06
This is an art exhibit in Havana, Cuba.
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Habanako, Kubako, arte-erakusketa bat da,
13:09
A group called Los Carpinteros.
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Los Carpinteros taldearena.
13:11
This is their perception of why you shouldn't mess with uncontacted Indians.
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Horrela adierazi dute zergatik ez dugun muturrik sartu behar indio isolatuen bizitzan.
13:15
But the world is changing.
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Baina mundua aldatzen ari da.
13:17
These are Mashco-Piros on the Brazil-Peru border
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Hauek Mashco-Piro indioak dira, Brazil eta Peru arteko mugan.
13:20
who stumbled out of the jungle
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Ihes egin behar izan zuten oihanetik,
13:22
because they were essentially chased out
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droga-trafikatzaileak eta egurketariak
13:24
by drug runners and timber people.
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jarraika zituztelako.
13:26
And in Peru, there's a very nasty business.
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Eta Perun negozio nazkagarri bat daukate,
13:29
It's called human safaris.
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giza safaria deiturikoa.
13:31
They will take you in to isolated groups to take their picture.
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Talde isolatu batengana eramaten zaituzte, argazkiak egitera.
13:34
Of course, when you give them clothes, when you give them tools,
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Eta noski, arropa edo tresnak ematen dizkiezunean
13:37
you also give them diseases.
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gaixotasunak ere pasatzen dizkiezu.
13:39
We call these "inhuman safaris."
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"Giza safari" deitzen diegu.
13:42
These are Indians again on the Peru border,
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Hauek Peruko mugako indio batzuk dira;
13:44
who were overflown by flights sponsored by missionaries.
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misiolariek babestutako hegazkinak euren gainean aritu ziren hegan,
13:47
They want to get in there and turn them into Christians.
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indioengana iritsi eta kristau bihurtu nahi baituzte.
13:50
We know how that turns out.
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Badakigu nola amaituko den kontua.
13:52
What's to be done?
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Zer egin dezakegu?
13:54
Introduce technology to the contacted tribes,
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Kontaktatutako tribuei teknologia aurkeztu,
13:56
not the uncontacted tribes,
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baina ez kontaktatu gabekoei;
13:58
in a culturally sensitive way.
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eta betiere kulturarekin kontu handiz jokatuz.
14:01
This is the perfect marriage of ancient shamanic wisdom
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Hori da xamanen antzinako jakintza
14:05
and 21st century technology.
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eta XXI. mendeko teknologia batzeko modurik egokiena.
14:08
We've done this now with over 30 tribes,
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Jada 30 tribu baino gehiagorekin egin dugu;
14:11
mapped, managed and increased protection
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arbasoen oihaneko 28 milioi hektarea baino gehiagoren
14:14
of over 70 million acres of ancestral rainforest.
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babesa taxutu, kudeatu eta hobetu dugu.
14:18
(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
14:23
So this allows the Indians to take control
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Horri esker, indioek euren etorkizun kulturala
14:27
of their environmental and cultural destiny.
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eta ingurunea kontrola dezakete.
14:30
They also then set up guard houses
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Gainera, zaintza-etxeak eraikitzen dituzte,
14:32
to keep outsiders out.
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kanpotarrak sar ez daitezen.
14:34
These are Indians, trained as indigenous park rangers,
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Indio horiek basozain izaten ikasi dute,
14:37
patrolling the borders
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baita mugak patruilatzen
14:38
and keeping the outside world at bay.
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eta kanpoko mundua urrun mantentzen ere.
14:41
This is a picture of actual contact.
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Argazki honek benetako kontaktua erakusten du.
14:44
These are Chitonahua Indians
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Chitonahua indioak dira,
14:46
on the Brazil-Peru border.
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Brazil eta Peru arteko mugakoak.
14:48
They've come out of the jungle
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Oihanetik irten dira
14:50
asking for help.
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laguntza eske.
14:52
They were shot at,
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Tirokatuak izan dira,
14:53
their malocas, their longhouses, were burned.
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malokak edo etxe komunitarioak erre dizkiete,
14:56
Some of them were massacred.
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eta euretariko batzuk sarraskian hil dituzte.
14:58
Using automatic weapons to slaughter uncontacted peoples
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Kontaktatu gabeko jendea akabatzeko arma automatikoak erabiltzea
15:04
is the single most despicable and disgusting human rights abuse
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gaur egun munduan giza eskubideak urratzeko modurik zital eta ankerrena da,
15:08
on our planet today, and it has to stop.
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eta amaitu egin behar du.
15:11
(Applause)
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(Txaloak)
15:18
But let me conclude by saying,
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Baina beste zerbait esanez amaitu nahi nuke.
15:20
this work can be spiritually rewarding,
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lan hau atsegina izan daiteke espiritualki,
15:23
but it's difficult and it can be dangerous.
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baina zaila eta arriskutsua ere bada.
15:26
Two colleagues of mine passed away recently
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Nire bi lankide orain dela gutxi hil dira
15:29
in the crash of a small plane.
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hegazkin txiki baten istripuan.
15:31
They were serving the forest
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Oihanarentzat lanean ari ziren,
15:33
to protect those uncontacted tribes.
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kontaktatu gabeko tribuak babestu nahian.
15:36
So the question is, in conclusion,
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Beraz, funtsean, galdera honakoa da:
15:38
is what the future holds.
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zer ekarriko digu etorkizunak?
15:40
These are the Uray people in Brazil.
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Hauek Brazilgo Urayak dira.
15:42
What does the future hold for them,
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Zer ekarriko die etorkizunak?
15:43
and what does the future hold for us?
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Eta zer ekarriko digu guri?
15:46
Let's think differently.
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Pentsa dezagun beste era batean.
Sor dezagun mundu hobe bat.
15:49
Let's make a better world.
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15:50
If the climate's going to change,
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Klima aldatzera baldin badoa,
15:52
let's have a climate that changes for the better rather than the worse.
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izan dadila hoberako aldaketa, ez txarrerakoa.
15:56
Let's live on a planet
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Bizi gaitezen luxuzko landaretzadun mundu batean,
16:00
full of luxuriant vegetation,
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herri isolatuak isolatuta mantenduko diren
16:02
in which isolated peoples
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mundu batean
eta haiek horrela erabakiz gero
16:05
can remain in isolation,
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euren misterioa eta jakintza
16:06
can maintain that mystery
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mantenduko duten
16:08
and that knowledge
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mundu batean.
16:10
if they so choose.
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Bizi gaitezen
16:12
Let's live in a world
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xamanak oihanean bizi diren mundu batean,
16:14
where the shamans live in these forests
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16:16
and heal themselves and us
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eta landare mistikoak eta igel sakratuak
16:19
with their mystical plants
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sendagai gisa erabiltzen dituzten
mundu batean.
16:22
and their sacred frogs.
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Mila esker, berriro ere.
16:24
Thanks again.
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(Txaloak)
16:26
(Applause)
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