Mark Plotkin: What the people of the Amazon know that you don’t

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譯者: Regina Chu 審譯者: Karen SONG
00:12
Now, I'm an ethnobotanist.
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我是民族植物學家。
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That's a scientist who works in the rainforest
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是在雨林工作的科學家,
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to document how people use local plants.
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記載人們如何使用當地植物。
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I've been doing this for a long time,
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我從事這項工作很久了,
00:22
and I want to tell you,
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我想告訴你們,
00:24
these people know these forests and these medicinal treasures
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這些人對這片森林 及這些藥用寶藏的瞭解
00:27
better than we do and better than we ever will.
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比我們還多,比我們將來所知還多。
00:30
But also, these cultures,
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但同時,這些文化,
00:32
these indigenous cultures,
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這些原住民文化,
00:34
are disappearing much faster than the forests themselves.
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正在消失,比森林本身消失還快。
00:39
And the greatest and most endangered species
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而最偉大又幾乎瀕臨絕種的物種,
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in the Amazon Rainforest
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在亞馬遜雨林中,
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is not the jaguar,
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不是美洲豹,
00:45
it's not the harpy eagle,
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也不是角鵰,
00:47
it's the isolated and uncontacted tribes.
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而是那些與世隔絕、未被接觸的部落。
00:51
Now four years ago, I injured my foot in a climbing accident
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四年前, 我在一次登山意外中弄傷了腳,
00:54
and I went to the doctor.
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我去看醫師。
00:56
She gave me heat,
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她給我熱敷、
00:57
she gave me cold, aspirin,
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她給我冷敷、阿斯匹靈、
01:00
narcotic painkillers, anti-inflammatories,
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麻醉止痛劑、消炎劑、
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cortisone shots.
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可體松針。
01:05
It didn't work.
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都沒有用。
01:07
Several months later,
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幾個月後,
01:09
I was in the northeast Amazon,
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我在亞馬遜東北區,
01:11
walked into a village,
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徒步走進一座村落,
01:13
and the shaman said, "You're limping."
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有個巫醫說:「你跛腳了。」
01:16
And I'll never forget this as long as I live.
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只要我活著, 我永遠也不會忘記這件事。
01:18
He looked me in the face and he said,
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他看看我的臉然後他說:
01:20
"Take off your shoe and give me your machete."
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「脫掉鞋子,給我你那隻大腳丫。」
01:24
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:26
He walked over to a palm tree
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他走到一棵棕櫚樹旁
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and carved off a fern,
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切下一塊蕨類,
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threw it in the fire,
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丟進火裡,
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applied it to my foot,
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然後敷在我的腳上,
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threw it in a pot of water,
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又把它丟進一碗水中,
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and had me drink the tea.
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然後要我喝了那碗藥茶。
01:37
The pain disappeared for seven months.
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腳痛消失了七個月。
01:40
When it came back, I went to see the shaman again.
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又痛起來的時候, 我又回去看那位巫醫。
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He gave me the same treatment,
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他給我同樣的療法,
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and I've been cured for three years now.
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我現在已經治好有三年了。
01:47
Who would you rather be treated by?
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那你寧願給誰醫呢?
01:50
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
01:53
Now, make no mistake — Western medicine
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那麼,不要搞錯,西醫
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is the most successful system of healing ever devised,
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是有史以來設計最成功的醫療系統,
01:58
but there's plenty of holes in it.
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但是還是有很多漏洞。
02:01
Where's the cure for breast cancer?
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乳腺癌的治療法在哪?
02:03
Where's the cure for schizophrenia?
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精神分裂症的治療法在哪?
02:05
Where's the cure for acid reflux?
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胃酸倒流的治療法又在哪?
02:07
Where's the cure for insomnia?
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失眠的治療法呢?
02:09
The fact is that these people
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事實是這些人
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can sometimes, sometimes, sometimes
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時不時,一次又一次,
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cure things we cannot.
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的確可以治好我們治不好的病。
02:15
Here you see a medicine man in the northeast Amazon
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這裡你看到亞馬遜東北區的巫醫
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treating leishmaniasis,
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治療利什曼病,
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a really nasty protozoal disease
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一種非常討厭的原蟲疾病,
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that afflicts 12 million people around the world.
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全世界有一千二百萬人為之折磨。
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Western treatment are injections of antimony.
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西醫的療法是注射銻。
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They're painful, they're expensive,
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注射銻很痛,很貴,
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and they're probably not good for your heart;
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對你的心臟也不太好。
02:32
it's a heavy metal.
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它是重金屬。
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This man cures it with three plants from the Amazon Rainforest.
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這個人用三種取自 亞馬遜雨林的植物治療它。
02:37
This is the magic frog.
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這是魔法青蛙。
02:39
My colleague, the late great Loren McIntyre,
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我的同事, 已故的偉人羅倫‧麥肯泰爾,
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discoverer of the source lake of the Amazon,
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亞馬遜源頭的發現者,
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Laguna McIntyre in the Peruvian Andes,
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即秘魯境內安地斯山的 麥肯泰爾小湖,
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was lost on the Peru-Brazil border about 30 years ago.
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在約三十年前 於秘魯巴西邊境迷路。
02:50
He was rescued by a group of isolated Indians called the Matsés.
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他被一群稱為馬策斯人的 隱世印地安人救起。
02:54
They beckoned for him to follow them into the forest, which he did.
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他們召喚他跟著他們進入森林, 他跟去了。
02:58
There, they took out palm leaf baskets.
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在那裡,他們拿出棕櫚葉籃。
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There, they took out these green monkey frogs —
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在那裡,他們拿出幾隻 這種綠色的猴樹蛙,
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these are big suckers, they're like this —
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這些可是大吸蟲,牠們就像這樣,
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and they began licking them.
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牠們開始舔舐。
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It turns out, they're highly hallucinogenic.
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結果,牠們居然是高度迷幻藥!
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McIntyre wrote about this and it was read by the editor of High Times magazine.
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麥肯泰爾寫下了這件事,還被 《嗨翻天》毒品雜誌的編輯看到。
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You see that ethnobotanists have friends in all sorts of strange cultures.
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你看民族植物學家 有很多三教九流的朋友。
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This guy decided he would go down to the Amazon and give it a whirl,
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這傢伙決定要去一趟亞馬遜, 親自試一下,
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or give it a lick, and he did, and he wrote,
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或說舔一下,他的確也舔了, 然後他寫道:
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"My blood pressure went through the roof,
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「我的血壓飆到最高點,
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I lost full control of my bodily functions,
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我的身體完全不聽使喚,
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I passed out in a heap,
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我崩倒在地,
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I woke up in a hammock six hours later,
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六個小時後我在吊床上醒來,
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felt like God for two days."
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之後兩天覺得像神一樣!」
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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An Italian chemist read this and said,
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一位義大利化學家讀了這段之後說:
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"I'm not really interested in the theological aspects of the green monkey frog.
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「我對綠猴樹蛙的 神學方面沒什麼興趣,
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What's this about the change in blood pressure?"
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但是這個血壓變化是怎麼回事?」
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Now, this is an Italian chemist
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這位義大利化學家
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who's working on a new treatment for high blood pressure
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正在研發治療高血壓的新療法,
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based on peptides in the skin of the green monkey frog,
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以綠猴樹蛙皮膚上的肽類為基礎,
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and other scientists are looking
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其他科學家也在研究
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at a cure for drug-resistant Staph aureus.
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抗藥性金黃色葡萄球菌的新解方。
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How ironic if these isolated Indians and their magic frog
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多諷刺啊!如果這些隱世的 印地安人及他們的魔蛙
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prove to be one of the cures.
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證明的確是解方。
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Here's an ayahuasca shaman
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這是位煮死藤水的巫師,
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in the northwest Amazon, in the middle of a yage ceremony.
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在亞馬遜西北區, 正在舉行通靈儀式。
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I took him to Los Angeles to meet a foundation officer
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我帶他到洛杉磯 去見一位基金會的幹事,
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looking for support for monies to protect their culture.
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他正在尋求金援 以保護他們的文化。
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This fellow looked at the medicine man, and he said,
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這傢伙看著這名巫醫,他說:
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"You didn't go to medical school, did you?"
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「你沒上過醫學院,對吧?」
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The shaman said, "No, I did not."
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這巫師說:「沒有,沒上過。」
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He said, "Well, then what can you know about healing?"
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他又說:「嗯, 那你怎麼知道醫療過程?」
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The shaman looked at him and he said,
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這巫師看看他,然後他說:
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"You know what? If you have an infection, go to a doctor.
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「你知道嗎?如果你受感染, 你會去看醫生。
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But many human afflictions are diseases of the heart, the mind and the spirit.
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但是人類很多的苦惱 是心智靈的疾病。
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Western medicine can't touch those. I cure them."
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西醫束手無策。我卻可以醫好。」
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(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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But all is not rosy in learning from nature about new medicines.
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但從大自然學習新醫藥 可不是一片光明。
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This is a viper from Brazil,
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這是一條巴西毒蛇,
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the venom of which was studied at the Universidade de São Paulo here.
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這裡的聖保羅大學研究其毒液。
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It was later developed into ACE inhibitors.
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後來研發成血管張力素 轉化酶抑制劑。
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This is a frontline treatment for hypertension.
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這是高血壓的第一線藥物。
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Hypertension causes over 10 percent
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高血壓每天在全世界
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of all deaths on the planet every day.
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導致超過百分之十的死亡。
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This is a $4 billion industry
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這是四十億美金的產業,
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based on venom from a Brazilian snake,
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以巴西蛇毒為研發基礎,
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and the Brazilians did not get a nickel.
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巴西人卻一毛錢也拿不到。
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This is not an acceptable way of doing business.
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這可不是能令人接受的經商之道。
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The rainforest has been called the greatest expression of life on Earth.
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雨林被稱為地球上 最偉大的生命表現。
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There's a saying in Suriname that I dearly love:
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蘇利南國有句我非常愛的話:
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"The rainforests hold answers to questions we have yet to ask."
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「雨林擁有我們還沒問的 問題的答案。」
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But as you all know, it's rapidly disappearing.
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但是你們都知道, 雨林正在快速消失。
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Here in Brazil, in the Amazon,
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在巴西這裡,在亞馬遜,
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around the world.
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在全世界都是如此。
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I took this picture from a small plane
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我從小飛機上照下這張相片,
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flying over the eastern border of the Xingu indigenous reserve
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飛越巴西申谷河 原住民保留區的東疆,
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in the state of Mato Grosso to the northwest of here.
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在巴西的馬托格羅索州 到西北這裡。
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The top half of the picture,
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相片的上半部
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you see where the Indians live.
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是印地安人住的地方。
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The line through the middle
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中間這條線,
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is the eastern border of the reserve.
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是保留區的東疆。
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Top half Indians, bottom half white guys.
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上半部是印地安人, 下半部是白人。
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Top half wonder drugs,
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上半是奇妙的藥物,
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bottom half just a bunch of skinny-ass cows.
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下半不過就是一群瘦巴巴的牛。
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Top half carbon sequestered in the forest where it belongs,
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上半的碳隱蔽在所屬的森林中,
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bottom half carbon in the atmosphere
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下半的碳則排到大氣層,
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where it's driving climate change.
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造成氣候變遷。
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In fact, the number two cause
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實際上,第二大
造成碳排放到大氣層的成因
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of carbon being released into the atmosphere
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is forest destruction.
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是森林破壞。
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But in talking about destruction,
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但是要談到破壞,
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it's important to keep in mind
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要記住這一點很重要,
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that the Amazon is the mightiest landscape of all.
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就是亞馬遜是世上最偉大的景觀。
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It's a place of beauty and wonder.
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它是美麗與奇妙共存的地方。
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The biggest anteater in the world
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世上最大的食蟻獸
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lives in the rain forest,
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就生活在這片雨林裡,
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tips the scale at 90 pounds.
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體重重達 90 磅 (41 公斤)。
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The goliath bird-eating spider
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巨人食鳥蛛
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is the world's largest spider.
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是世界上最大的蜘蛛,
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It's found in the Amazon as well.
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也能在亞馬遜找到。
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The harpy eagle wingspan is over seven feet.
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角鵰展翼可以超過七呎(二公尺)。
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And the black cayman —
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而黑鱷
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these monsters can tip the scale at over half a ton.
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這些怪物可以超過半噸重。
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They're known to be man-eaters.
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人稱這些為食人獸。
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The anaconda, the largest snake,
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森蚺,最大的蛇,
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the capybara, the largest rodent.
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水豚,最大的齧齒類。
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A specimen from here in Brazil
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從巴西這裡來的一副標本
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tipped the scale at 201 pounds.
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重達 201 磅(91 公斤)。
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Let's visit where these creatures live,
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讓我們探訪一下這些生物住的地方,
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the northeast Amazon,
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亞馬遜東北區,
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home to the Akuriyo tribe.
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阿庫里優部落的家鄉。
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Uncontacted peoples hold a mystical and iconic role
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未接觸部落在我們的想像中
總給人一種神秘與定型的印象。
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in our imagination.
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These are the people who know nature best.
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他們是最瞭解大自然的人。
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These are the people who truly live
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他們是真正與大自然
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in total harmony with nature.
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和諧共存的人。
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By our standards, some would dismiss these people as primitive.
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按照我們的標準, 有些人會視他們為原始人。
07:33
"They don't know how to make fire,
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他們不知道如何生火,
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or they didn't when they were first contacted."
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或說在首次接觸外界前 他們不知道如何生火。
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But they know the forest far better than we do.
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但是他們比我們更了解森林。
07:40
The Akuriyos have 35 words for honey,
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阿庫里優人對蜂蜜 有 35 種叫不同的方法,
07:43
and other Indians look up to them
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其它的印地安人景仰他們,
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as being the true masters of the emerald realm.
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因為他們是這片 翡翠大地真正的主人。
07:49
Here you see the face of my friend Pohnay.
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這是我的朋友波奈的臉。
07:52
When I was a teenager rocking out
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當我還是青少年在老家紐奧良
07:53
to the Rolling Stones in my hometown of New Orleans,
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隨著滾石樂團搖頭晃腦時,
07:56
Pohnay was a forest nomad
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波奈已經是個森林遊牧人,
07:58
roaming the jungles of the northeast Amazon
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在亞馬遜東北的叢林中漫遊,
08:01
in a small band, looking for game,
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與一小群人為伍,找尋獵物,
08:04
looking for medicinal plants,
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找尋藥用植物,
08:06
looking for a wife,
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找老婆,
08:08
in other small nomadic bands.
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在外族中找。
08:10
But it's people like these
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但是就是這樣的人
08:12
that know things that we don't,
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瞭解我們不了解的東西,
08:14
and they have lots of lessons to teach us.
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而且他們能教我們很多功課。
08:18
However, if you go into most of the forests of the Amazon,
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然而,如果你進入 亞馬遜森林大部分的地方,
08:22
there are no indigenous peoples.
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都看不到原住民。
08:24
This is what you find:
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而這是你會看到的:
08:25
rock carvings which indigenous peoples,
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石刻,為原住民,
08:29
uncontacted peoples, used to sharpen the edge of the stone axe.
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未接觸之民 拿來磨利石斧之刃留下的。
08:33
These cultures that once danced,
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這些原本舞蹈、
08:35
made love, sang to the gods,
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交合、向諸神歌頌、
08:38
worshipped the forest,
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信奉森林的文化,
08:39
all that's left is an imprint in stone, as you see here.
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只剩下石頭上的印記留存, 如你現在所見。
08:43
Let's move to the western Amazon,
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再來看亞馬遜西區,
08:46
which is really the epicenter of isolated peoples.
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那裡真的是隱世之民的中心。
08:49
Each of these dots represents
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這裡每一個點都代表了
08:51
a small, uncontacted tribe,
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一個小小的、未接觸部落。
08:53
and the big reveal today is we believe there are 14 or 15 isolated groups
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今天的大揭密是我們相信 光是在哥倫比亞屬的亞馬遜
08:58
in the Colombian Amazon alone.
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就有 14 或 15 個隱世的部落。
09:01
Why are these people isolated?
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為什麼這些人要隱世獨立?
09:04
They know we exist, they know there's an outside world.
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他們知道我們的存在, 他們知道有外面的世界。
09:06
This is a form of resistance.
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這是一種反抗的形式。
09:08
They have chosen to remain isolated,
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他們選擇繼續隱世,
09:10
and I think it is their human right to remain so.
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而我認為繼續如此是他們的人權。
09:14
Why are these the tribes that hide from man?
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為什麼這些部落要躲人?
09:16
Here's why.
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我告訴你為什麼。
09:17
Obviously, some of this was set off in 1492.
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很明顯,這從 1492 年就開始了。
09:21
But at the turn of the last century
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但就在上世紀之初,
09:23
was the rubber trade.
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橡膠貿易興起。
09:25
The demand for natural rubber,
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人們對天然橡膠的需求,
09:26
which came from the Amazon,
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天然橡膠來自亞馬遜,
09:28
set off the botanical equivalent of a gold rush.
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爆發了橡膠的淘金潮。
09:31
Rubber for bicycle tires,
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橡膠能做自行車輪胎,
09:33
rubber for automobile tires,
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橡膠能做車胎,
09:35
rubber for zeppelins.
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橡膠還能做齊柏林飛船。
09:37
It was a mad race to get that rubber,
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那是一場瘋狂的橡膠大戰,
09:40
and the man on the left, Julio Arana,
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而左邊的那位,胡利歐·阿拉納,
09:42
is one of the true thugs of the story.
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則是這個故事裡真正的惡棍。
09:45
His people, his company,
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他的人,他的公司,
09:47
and other companies like them
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及其他跟他們一樣的公司,
09:49
killed, massacred, tortured, butchered Indians
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殘殺、屠殺、虐待、宰殺印地安人,
09:52
like the Witotos you see on the right hand side of the slide.
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像你在照片右手邊看到的維多多人。
09:57
Even today, when people come out of the forest,
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即使在今天, 他們離開森林與外界接觸,
10:00
the story seldom has a happy ending.
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也很少有好下場。
10:02
These are Nukaks. They were contacted in the '80s.
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這些是努卡人。 他們於 80 年代開始與外界接觸。
10:05
Within a year, everybody over 40 was dead.
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不到一年,每一個 超過 40 歲的人都死了。
10:09
And remember, these are preliterate societies.
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你要記得,這些是文前社會。
10:12
The elders are the libraries.
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耆老就是圖書館。
10:13
Every time a shaman dies,
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每次有巫師死亡,
10:15
it's as if a library has burned down.
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就好像有圖書館被燒掉了一樣。
10:19
They have been forced off their lands.
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他們被迫離開他們的土地。
10:21
The drug traffickers have taken over the Nukak lands,
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毒品販子占領了努卡人的地,
10:25
and the Nukaks live as beggars
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努卡人則成了乞丐,
10:27
in public parks in eastern Colombia.
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在東哥倫比亞的公園裡行乞為生。
10:30
From the Nukak lands, I want to take you to the southwest,
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我要帶你們從 努卡人的土地到西南區,
10:33
to the most spectacular landscape in the world:
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到全世界最壯麗的地景上:
10:36
Chiribiquete National Park.
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奇里比格達國家公園。
10:38
It was surrounded by three isolated tribes
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它被三個遺世的部落環繞,
10:40
and thanks to the Colombian government and Colombian colleagues,
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感謝哥倫比亞政府 及哥倫比亞的同僚,
10:43
it has now expanded.
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現在公園的範圍擴大了。
10:45
It's bigger than the state of Maryland.
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它比馬里蘭州還大。
10:47
It is a treasure trove of botanical diversity.
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它是植物多樣性的寶庫。
10:51
It was first explored botanically in 1943
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1943 年首次在當地探勘植物,
10:54
by my mentor, Richard Schultes,
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由我的導師理查·舒爾茲帶領,
10:55
seen here atop the Bell Mountain,
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照片上看到在鐘山頂上,
10:58
the sacred mountains of the Karijonas.
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卡里荷那人的聖山。
11:01
And let me show you what it looks like today.
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讓你們看一下今天是甚麼樣子。
11:03
Flying over Chiribiquete,
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飛越奇里比格達,
11:05
realize that these lost world mountains are still lost.
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你會明瞭這個失落世界的 山脈依然失落。
11:07
No scientist has been atop them.
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仍然沒有科學家登過頂。
11:09
In fact, nobody has been atop the Bell Mountain
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事實上,沒有人再登過鐘山
11:11
since Schultes in '43.
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自 1946 舒爾茲登頂之後。
11:13
And we'll end up here with the Bell Mountain
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我們就停在這裡,
11:16
just to the east of the picture.
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鐘山就在照片東邊。
11:19
Let me show you what it looks like today.
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讓你們看一下今天的樣子。
11:21
Not only is this a treasure trove of botanical diversity,
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這裡不但是植物多樣性的寶庫,
11:24
not only is it home to three isolated tribes,
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不但是三個隱世部落的家,
11:27
but it's the greatest treasure trove
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還是世界最大的寶庫
11:29
of pre-Colombian art in the world:
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蘊藏前哥倫布時期藝術:
11:32
over 200,000 paintings.
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超過二十萬幅壁畫。
11:35
The Dutch scientist Thomas van der Hammen
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荷蘭科學家湯瑪士·凡德韓門
11:38
described this as the Sistine Chapel of the Amazon Rainforest.
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描述這是亞馬遜雨林的西斯廷小堂。
11:43
But move from Chiribiquete down to the southeast,
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但從奇里比格達往下移到東南,
11:46
again in the Colombian Amazon.
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又回到哥倫比亞屬亞馬遜。
11:48
Remember, the Colombian Amazon is bigger than New England.
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要記得,哥倫比亞亞馬遜 比新英格蘭區還大。
11:50
The Amazon's a big forest,
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亞馬遜是座大森林,
11:52
and Brazil's got a big part of it,
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巴西占了其中很大一塊地,
11:54
but not all of it.
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但不是全部。
11:55
Moving down to these two national parks,
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往下到這兩座國家公園,
11:57
Cahuinari and Puré
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卡輝拿里及普瑞,
11:59
in the Colombian Amazon —
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位在哥倫比亞屬亞馬遜,
12:00
that's the Brazilian border to the right —
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右邊的是巴西邊境,
12:03
it's home to several groups
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這裡是幾群
12:05
of isolated and uncontacted peoples.
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隱世未接觸之民的家。
12:07
To the trained eye, you can look at the roofs
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訓練有素的人,你可以從
12:09
of these malocas, these longhouses,
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茅屋的屋頂,這些公社長屋,
12:11
and see that there's cultural diversity.
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看出文化上的差異。
12:13
These are, in fact, different tribes.
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事實上這些都是不同的部落。
12:15
As isolated as these areas are,
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這些地區就算隱世,
12:18
let me show you how the outside world is crowding in.
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讓我告訴你外面的世界如何擠進。
12:22
Here we see trade and transport increased in Putumayo.
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我們在普圖馬約這裡 看到貿易及運輸都增加。
12:25
With the diminishment of the Civil War in Colombia,
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隨著哥倫比亞內戰消退,
12:27
the outside world is showing up.
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外面的世界開始出現。
12:30
To the north, we have illegal gold mining,
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在北邊,我們有非法的金礦,
12:33
also from the east, from Brazil.
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同樣是從東邊,從巴西來。
12:34
There's increased hunting and fishing for commercial purposes.
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商業捕魚及打獵日增,
12:38
We see illegal logging coming from the south,
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我們看見從南邊來的非法伐木,
12:41
and drug runners are trying to move through the park
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還有運毒販正試著 要穿過這座公園
12:44
and get into Brazil.
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進入巴西。
12:46
This, in the past, is why you didn't mess
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這個,在過去,是你為什麼不要
12:49
with isolated Indians.
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惹隱世的印地安人的原因。
12:50
And if it looks like this picture is out of focus
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如果這張照片看起來有點糊,
12:52
because it was taken in a hurry, here's why.
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是因為拍的有點急。 原因是這個。
12:55
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
12:58
This looks like — (Applause)
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這看起來像(掌聲)
13:04
This looks like a hangar from the Brazilian Amazon.
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這看起來像巴西亞馬遜的刑架。
13:06
This is an art exhibit in Havana, Cuba.
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這是在古巴哈瓦那的藝術展品。
13:09
A group called Los Carpinteros.
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一個稱為木匠的團體弄的。
13:11
This is their perception of why you shouldn't mess with uncontacted Indians.
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你為什麼不該去惹未接觸之 印地安人,這就是他們的觀點。
13:15
But the world is changing.
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但是世界正在改變。
13:17
These are Mashco-Piros on the Brazil-Peru border
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這些是在巴西秘魯邊境的 馬施可皮洛人,
13:20
who stumbled out of the jungle
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他們踉蹌地逃出叢林,
13:22
because they were essentially chased out
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因為他們基本上是被
13:24
by drug runners and timber people.
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運毒販及伐木的人趕出去的。
13:26
And in Peru, there's a very nasty business.
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在秘魯,有一種很可惡的生意。
13:29
It's called human safaris.
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叫做觀野人之旅。
13:31
They will take you in to isolated groups to take their picture.
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他們會帶你到隱世的族群裡照像。
13:34
Of course, when you give them clothes, when you give them tools,
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當然,在你給他們衣服, 給他們工具的時候,
13:37
you also give them diseases.
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你也給了他們疾病。
13:39
We call these "inhuman safaris."
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我們叫這個為野蠻人之旅。
13:42
These are Indians again on the Peru border,
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這些也是秘魯邊境的印地安人,
13:44
who were overflown by flights sponsored by missionaries.
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傳教士資助的飛機飛越他們的上空。
13:47
They want to get in there and turn them into Christians.
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他們想把些人變成基督徒。
13:50
We know how that turns out.
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我們都知道結果如何。
13:52
What's to be done?
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那我們能做什麼?
13:54
Introduce technology to the contacted tribes,
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引進科技給已接觸外界之部落,
13:56
not the uncontacted tribes,
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而不是給未接觸之部落,
13:58
in a culturally sensitive way.
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而且方法要對文化敏感。
14:01
This is the perfect marriage of ancient shamanic wisdom
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這是古老的巫師智慧
14:05
and 21st century technology.
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與 21 世紀科技的完美結合。
14:08
We've done this now with over 30 tribes,
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我們已對超過 30 個 部落做到這一點,
14:11
mapped, managed and increased protection
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勘測、管理並增加保護
14:14
of over 70 million acres of ancestral rainforest.
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超過七千萬英畝的古老雨林。
14:18
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
14:23
So this allows the Indians to take control
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所以這讓印地安人能掌控
14:27
of their environmental and cultural destiny.
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他們的環境及文化的命運。
14:30
They also then set up guard houses
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他們還設置守衛室
14:32
to keep outsiders out.
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不讓外人進入。
14:34
These are Indians, trained as indigenous park rangers,
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這些是印地安人, 訓練成原著民公園管理員,
14:37
patrolling the borders
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巡邏邊境,
14:38
and keeping the outside world at bay.
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不讓外面的世界接近。
14:41
This is a picture of actual contact.
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這是實際接觸的照片。
14:44
These are Chitonahua Indians
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這些人是奇圖那瓦印地安人,
14:46
on the Brazil-Peru border.
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在巴西秘魯邊境。
14:48
They've come out of the jungle
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他們離開叢林
14:50
asking for help.
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尋求幫助。
14:52
They were shot at,
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他們被射殺,
14:53
their malocas, their longhouses, were burned.
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他們的茅屋,他們的長屋被焚燒。
14:56
Some of them were massacred.
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有些人還被屠殺。
14:58
Using automatic weapons to slaughter uncontacted peoples
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用自動武器屠殺未接觸之民
15:04
is the single most despicable and disgusting human rights abuse
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是今天在我們的地球上
15:08
on our planet today, and it has to stop.
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最卑劣最噁心的人權侵犯, 而這必須停止。
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(Applause)
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15:18
But let me conclude by saying,
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但讓我這樣下結論,
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this work can be spiritually rewarding,
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這份工作可以是精神上的獎勵,
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but it's difficult and it can be dangerous.
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可是很難很危險。
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Two colleagues of mine passed away recently
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我有兩位同事最近
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in the crash of a small plane.
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死於小飛機墜機。
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They were serving the forest
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他們為森林服務,
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to protect those uncontacted tribes.
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保護這些未接觸的部落。
15:36
So the question is, in conclusion,
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所以作為總結,我的問題是,
15:38
is what the future holds.
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將來會怎樣。
15:40
These are the Uray people in Brazil.
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這些是巴西優瑞人。
15:42
What does the future hold for them,
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這些人的將來會怎樣?
15:43
and what does the future hold for us?
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我們的將來又會怎樣?
15:46
Let's think differently.
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讓我們跳脫窠臼思維。
15:49
Let's make a better world.
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讓我們創造更美好的世界。
15:50
If the climate's going to change,
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如果氣候必定要變遷,
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let's have a climate that changes for the better rather than the worse.
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就讓我們的氣候變得更好, 而不是更壞。
15:56
Let's live on a planet
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讓我們活在
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full of luxuriant vegetation,
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鬱鬱菁菁的星球上,
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in which isolated peoples
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而隱世之民
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can remain in isolation,
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能繼續隱世,
16:06
can maintain that mystery
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持守神秘,
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and that knowledge
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持守知識,
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if they so choose.
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如果他們選擇如此行。
16:12
Let's live in a world
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讓我們生活的世界,
16:14
where the shamans live in these forests
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是巫師能活在自己的森林裡
16:16
and heal themselves and us
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醫好他們自己還有我們,
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with their mystical plants
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用他們神祕的植物
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and their sacred frogs.
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及他們神聖的青蛙。
16:24
Thanks again.
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再次感謝。
16:26
(Applause)
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