Mark Plotkin: What the people of the Amazon know that you don’t

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Now, I'm an ethnobotanist.
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That's a scientist who works in the rainforest
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to document how people use local plants.
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I've been doing this for a long time,
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and I want to tell you,
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these people know these forests and these medicinal treasures
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better than we do and better than we ever will.
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But also, these cultures,
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these indigenous cultures,
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are disappearing much faster than the forests themselves.
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And the greatest and most endangered species
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in the Amazon Rainforest
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is not the jaguar,
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it's not the harpy eagle,
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it's the isolated and uncontacted tribes.
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Now four years ago, I injured my foot in a climbing accident
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and I went to the doctor.
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She gave me heat,
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she gave me cold, aspirin,
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narcotic painkillers, anti-inflammatories,
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cortisone shots.
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It didn't work.
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Several months later,
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I was in the northeast Amazon,
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walked into a village,
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and the shaman said, "You're limping."
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And I'll never forget this as long as I live.
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He looked me in the face and he said,
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"Take off your shoe and give me your machete."
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(Laughter)
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He walked over to a palm tree
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and carved off a fern,
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threw it in the fire,
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applied it to my foot,
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threw it in a pot of water,
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and had me drink the tea.
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The pain disappeared for seven months.
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When it came back, I went to see the shaman again.
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He gave me the same treatment,
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and I've been cured for three years now.
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Who would you rather be treated by?
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(Applause)
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Now, make no mistake — Western medicine
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is the most successful system of healing ever devised,
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but there's plenty of holes in it.
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Where's the cure for breast cancer?
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Where's the cure for schizophrenia?
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Where's the cure for acid reflux?
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Where's the cure for insomnia?
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The fact is that these people
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can sometimes, sometimes, sometimes
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cure things we cannot.
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Here you see a medicine man in the northeast Amazon
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treating leishmaniasis,
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a really nasty protozoal disease
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that afflicts 12 million people around the world.
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Western treatment are injections of antimony.
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They're painful, they're expensive,
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and they're probably not good for your heart;
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it's a heavy metal.
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This man cures it with three plants from the Amazon Rainforest.
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This is the magic frog.
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My colleague, the late great Loren McIntyre,
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discoverer of the source lake of the Amazon,
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Laguna McIntyre in the Peruvian Andes,
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was lost on the Peru-Brazil border about 30 years ago.
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He was rescued by a group of isolated Indians called the Matsés.
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They beckoned for him to follow them into the forest, which he did.
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There, they took out palm leaf baskets.
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There, they took out these green monkey frogs —
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these are big suckers, they're like this —
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and they began licking them.
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It turns out, they're highly hallucinogenic.
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McIntyre wrote about this and it was read by the editor of High Times magazine.
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You see that ethnobotanists have friends in all sorts of strange cultures.
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This guy decided he would go down to the Amazon and give it a whirl,
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or give it a lick, and he did, and he wrote,
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"My blood pressure went through the roof,
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I lost full control of my bodily functions,
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I passed out in a heap,
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I woke up in a hammock six hours later,
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felt like God for two days."
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(Laughter)
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An Italian chemist read this and said,
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"I'm not really interested in the theological aspects of the green monkey frog.
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What's this about the change in blood pressure?"
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Now, this is an Italian chemist
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who's working on a new treatment for high blood pressure
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based on peptides in the skin of the green monkey frog,
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and other scientists are looking
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at a cure for drug-resistant Staph aureus.
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How ironic if these isolated Indians and their magic frog
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prove to be one of the cures.
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Here's an ayahuasca shaman
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in the northwest Amazon, in the middle of a yage ceremony.
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I took him to Los Angeles to meet a foundation officer
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looking for support for monies to protect their culture.
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This fellow looked at the medicine man, and he said,
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"You didn't go to medical school, did you?"
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The shaman said, "No, I did not."
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He said, "Well, then what can you know about healing?"
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The shaman looked at him and he said,
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"You know what? If you have an infection, go to a doctor.
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But many human afflictions are diseases of the heart, the mind and the spirit.
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Western medicine can't touch those. I cure them."
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(Applause)
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But all is not rosy in learning from nature about new medicines.
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This is a viper from Brazil,
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the venom of which was studied at the Universidade de São Paulo here.
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It was later developed into ACE inhibitors.
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This is a frontline treatment for hypertension.
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Hypertension causes over 10 percent
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of all deaths on the planet every day.
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This is a $4 billion industry
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based on venom from a Brazilian snake,
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and the Brazilians did not get a nickel.
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This is not an acceptable way of doing business.
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The rainforest has been called the greatest expression of life on Earth.
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There's a saying in Suriname that I dearly love:
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"The rainforests hold answers to questions we have yet to ask."
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But as you all know, it's rapidly disappearing.
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Here in Brazil, in the Amazon,
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around the world.
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I took this picture from a small plane
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flying over the eastern border of the Xingu indigenous reserve
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in the state of Mato Grosso to the northwest of here.
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The top half of the picture,
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you see where the Indians live.
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The line through the middle
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is the eastern border of the reserve.
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Top half Indians, bottom half white guys.
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Top half wonder drugs,
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bottom half just a bunch of skinny-ass cows.
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Top half carbon sequestered in the forest where it belongs,
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bottom half carbon in the atmosphere
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where it's driving climate change.
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In fact, the number two cause
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of carbon being released into the atmosphere
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is forest destruction.
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But in talking about destruction,
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it's important to keep in mind
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that the Amazon is the mightiest landscape of all.
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It's a place of beauty and wonder.
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The biggest anteater in the world
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lives in the rain forest,
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tips the scale at 90 pounds.
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The goliath bird-eating spider
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is the world's largest spider.
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It's found in the Amazon as well.
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The harpy eagle wingspan is over seven feet.
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And the black cayman —
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these monsters can tip the scale at over half a ton.
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They're known to be man-eaters.
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The anaconda, the largest snake,
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the capybara, the largest rodent.
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A specimen from here in Brazil
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tipped the scale at 201 pounds.
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Let's visit where these creatures live,
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the northeast Amazon,
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home to the Akuriyo tribe.
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Uncontacted peoples hold a mystical and iconic role
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in our imagination.
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These are the people who know nature best.
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These are the people who truly live
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in total harmony with nature.
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By our standards, some would dismiss these people as primitive.
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"They don't know how to make fire,
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or they didn't when they were first contacted."
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But they know the forest far better than we do.
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The Akuriyos have 35 words for honey,
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and other Indians look up to them
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as being the true masters of the emerald realm.
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Here you see the face of my friend Pohnay.
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When I was a teenager rocking out
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to the Rolling Stones in my hometown of New Orleans,
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Pohnay was a forest nomad
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roaming the jungles of the northeast Amazon
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in a small band, looking for game,
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looking for medicinal plants,
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looking for a wife,
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in other small nomadic bands.
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But it's people like these
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that know things that we don't,
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and they have lots of lessons to teach us.
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However, if you go into most of the forests of the Amazon,
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there are no indigenous peoples.
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This is what you find:
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rock carvings which indigenous peoples,
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uncontacted peoples, used to sharpen the edge of the stone axe.
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These cultures that once danced,
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made love, sang to the gods,
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worshipped the forest,
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all that's left is an imprint in stone, as you see here.
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Let's move to the western Amazon,
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which is really the epicenter of isolated peoples.
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Each of these dots represents
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a small, uncontacted tribe,
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and the big reveal today is we believe there are 14 or 15 isolated groups
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in the Colombian Amazon alone.
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Why are these people isolated?
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They know we exist, they know there's an outside world.
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This is a form of resistance.
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They have chosen to remain isolated,
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and I think it is their human right to remain so.
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Why are these the tribes that hide from man?
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Here's why.
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Obviously, some of this was set off in 1492.
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But at the turn of the last century
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was the rubber trade.
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The demand for natural rubber,
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which came from the Amazon,
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set off the botanical equivalent of a gold rush.
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Rubber for bicycle tires,
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rubber for automobile tires,
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rubber for zeppelins.
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It was a mad race to get that rubber,
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and the man on the left, Julio Arana,
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is one of the true thugs of the story.
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His people, his company,
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and other companies like them
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killed, massacred, tortured, butchered Indians
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like the Witotos you see on the right hand side of the slide.
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Even today, when people come out of the forest,
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the story seldom has a happy ending.
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These are Nukaks. They were contacted in the '80s.
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Within a year, everybody over 40 was dead.
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And remember, these are preliterate societies.
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The elders are the libraries.
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Every time a shaman dies,
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it's as if a library has burned down.
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They have been forced off their lands.
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The drug traffickers have taken over the Nukak lands,
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and the Nukaks live as beggars
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in public parks in eastern Colombia.
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From the Nukak lands, I want to take you to the southwest,
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to the most spectacular landscape in the world:
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Chiribiquete National Park.
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It was surrounded by three isolated tribes
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and thanks to the Colombian government and Colombian colleagues,
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it has now expanded.
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It's bigger than the state of Maryland.
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It is a treasure trove of botanical diversity.
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It was first explored botanically in 1943
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by my mentor, Richard Schultes,
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seen here atop the Bell Mountain,
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the sacred mountains of the Karijonas.
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And let me show you what it looks like today.
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Flying over Chiribiquete,
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realize that these lost world mountains are still lost.
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No scientist has been atop them.
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In fact, nobody has been atop the Bell Mountain
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since Schultes in '43.
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And we'll end up here with the Bell Mountain
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just to the east of the picture.
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Let me show you what it looks like today.
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Not only is this a treasure trove of botanical diversity,
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not only is it home to three isolated tribes,
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but it's the greatest treasure trove
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of pre-Colombian art in the world:
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over 200,000 paintings.
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The Dutch scientist Thomas van der Hammen
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described this as the Sistine Chapel of the Amazon Rainforest.
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But move from Chiribiquete down to the southeast,
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again in the Colombian Amazon.
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Remember, the Colombian Amazon is bigger than New England.
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The Amazon's a big forest,
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and Brazil's got a big part of it,
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but not all of it.
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Moving down to these two national parks,
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Cahuinari and Puré
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in the Colombian Amazon —
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that's the Brazilian border to the right —
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it's home to several groups
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of isolated and uncontacted peoples.
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To the trained eye, you can look at the roofs
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of these malocas, these longhouses,
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and see that there's cultural diversity.
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These are, in fact, different tribes.
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As isolated as these areas are,
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let me show you how the outside world is crowding in.
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Here we see trade and transport increased in Putumayo.
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With the diminishment of the Civil War in Colombia,
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the outside world is showing up.
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To the north, we have illegal gold mining,
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also from the east, from Brazil.
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There's increased hunting and fishing for commercial purposes.
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We see illegal logging coming from the south,
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and drug runners are trying to move through the park
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and get into Brazil.
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This, in the past, is why you didn't mess
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with isolated Indians.
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And if it looks like this picture is out of focus
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because it was taken in a hurry, here's why.
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(Laughter)
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This looks like — (Applause)
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This looks like a hangar from the Brazilian Amazon.
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This is an art exhibit in Havana, Cuba.
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A group called Los Carpinteros.
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This is their perception of why you shouldn't mess with uncontacted Indians.
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But the world is changing.
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These are Mashco-Piros on the Brazil-Peru border
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who stumbled out of the jungle
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because they were essentially chased out
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by drug runners and timber people.
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And in Peru, there's a very nasty business.
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It's called human safaris.
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They will take you in to isolated groups to take their picture.
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Of course, when you give them clothes, when you give them tools,
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you also give them diseases.
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We call these "inhuman safaris."
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These are Indians again on the Peru border,
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who were overflown by flights sponsored by missionaries.
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They want to get in there and turn them into Christians.
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We know how that turns out.
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What's to be done?
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Introduce technology to the contacted tribes,
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not the uncontacted tribes,
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in a culturally sensitive way.
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This is the perfect marriage of ancient shamanic wisdom
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and 21st century technology.
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We've done this now with over 30 tribes,
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mapped, managed and increased protection
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of over 70 million acres of ancestral rainforest.
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(Applause)
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So this allows the Indians to take control
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of their environmental and cultural destiny.
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They also then set up guard houses
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to keep outsiders out.
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These are Indians, trained as indigenous park rangers,
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patrolling the borders
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and keeping the outside world at bay.
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This is a picture of actual contact.
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These are Chitonahua Indians
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on the Brazil-Peru border.
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They've come out of the jungle
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asking for help.
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They were shot at,
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their malocas, their longhouses, were burned.
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Some of them were massacred.
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Using automatic weapons to slaughter uncontacted peoples
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is the single most despicable and disgusting human rights abuse
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on our planet today, and it has to stop.
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(Applause)
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But let me conclude by saying,
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this work can be spiritually rewarding,
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but it's difficult and it can be dangerous.
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Two colleagues of mine passed away recently
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in the crash of a small plane.
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They were serving the forest
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to protect those uncontacted tribes.
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So the question is, in conclusion,
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is what the future holds.
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These are the Uray people in Brazil.
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What does the future hold for them,
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and what does the future hold for us?
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Let's think differently.
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Let's make a better world.
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If the climate's going to change,
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let's have a climate that changes for the better rather than the worse.
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Let's live on a planet
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full of luxuriant vegetation,
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in which isolated peoples
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can remain in isolation,
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can maintain that mystery
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and that knowledge
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if they so choose.
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Let's live in a world
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where the shamans live in these forests
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and heal themselves and us
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with their mystical plants
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and their sacred frogs.
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Thanks again.
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(Applause)
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