The brain may be able to repair itself -- with help | Jocelyne Bloch

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So I'm a neurosurgeon.
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And like most of my colleagues,
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I have to deal, every day, with human tragedies.
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I realize how your life can change from one second to the other
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after a major stroke or after a car accident.
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And what is very frustrating for us neurosurgeons
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is to realize that unlike other organs of the body,
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the brain has very little ability for self-repair.
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And after a major injury of your central nervous system,
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the patients often remain with a severe handicap.
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And that's probably the reason why I've chosen
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to be a functional neurosurgeon.
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What is a functional neurosurgeon?
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It's a doctor who is trying to improve a neurological function
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through different surgical strategies.
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You've certainly heard of one of the famous ones
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called deep brain stimulation,
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where you implant an electrode in the depths of the brain
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in order to modulate a circuit of neurons
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to improve a neurological function.
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It's really an amazing technology
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in that it has improved the destiny of patients
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with Parkinson's disease,
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with severe tremor, with severe pain.
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However, neuromodulation does not mean neuro-repair.
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And the dream of functional neurosurgeons
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is to repair the brain.
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I think
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that we are approaching this dream.
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And I would like to show you
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that we are very close to this.
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And that with a little bit of help,
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the brain is able to help itself.
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So the story started 15 years ago.
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At that time, I was a chief resident
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working days and nights in the emergency room.
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I often had to take care of patients with head trauma.
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You have to imagine that when a patient comes in with a severe head trauma,
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his brain is swelling
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and he's increasing his intracranial pressure.
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And in order to save his life,
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you have to decrease this intracranial pressure.
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And to do that,
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you sometimes have to remove a piece of swollen brain.
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So instead of throwing away these pieces of swollen brain,
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we decided with Jean-François Brunet,
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who is a colleague of mine, a biologist,
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to study them.
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What do I mean by that?
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We wanted to grow cells from these pieces of tissue.
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It's not an easy task.
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Growing cells from a piece of tissue
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is a bit the same as growing very small children
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out from their family.
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So you need to find the right nutrients,
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the warmth, the humidity
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and all the nice environments to make them thrive.
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So that's exactly what we had to do with these cells.
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And after many attempts,
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Jean-François did it.
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And that's what he saw under his microscope.
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And that was, for us, a major surprise.
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Why?
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Because this looks exactly the same as a stem cell culture,
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with large green cells surrounding small, immature cells.
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And you may remember from biology class
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that stem cells are immature cells,
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able to turn into any type of cell of the body.
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The adult brain has stem cells, but they're very rare
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and they're located in deep and small niches
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in the depths of the brain.
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So it was surprising to get this kind of stem cell culture
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from the superficial part of swollen brain we had
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in the operating theater.
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And there was another intriguing observation:
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Regular stem cells are very active cells --
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cells that divide, divide, divide very quickly.
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And they never die, they're immortal cells.
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But these cells behave differently.
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They divide slowly,
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and after a few weeks of culture,
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they even died.
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So we were in front of a strange new cell population
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that looked like stem cells but behaved differently.
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And it took us a long time to understand where they came from.
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They come from these cells.
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These blue and red cells are called doublecortin-positive cells.
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All of you have them in your brain.
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They represent four percent of your cortical brain cells.
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They have a very important role during the development stage.
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When you were fetuses,
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they helped your brain to fold itself.
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But why do they stay in your head?
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This, we don't know.
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We think that they may participate in brain repair
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because we find them in higher concentration
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close to brain lesions.
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But it's not so sure.
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But there is one clear thing --
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that from these cells,
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we got our stem cell culture.
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And we were in front of a potential new source of cells
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to repair the brain.
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And we had to prove this.
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So to prove it,
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we decided to design an experimental paradigm.
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The idea was to biopsy a piece of brain
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in a non-eloquent area of the brain,
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and then to culture the cells
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exactly the way Jean-François did it in his lab.
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And then label them, to put color in them
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in order to be able to track them in the brain.
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And the last step was to re-implant them
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in the same individual.
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We call these
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autologous grafts -- autografts.
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So the first question we had,
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"What will happen if we re-implant these cells in a normal brain,
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and what will happen if we re-implant the same cells
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in a lesioned brain?"
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Thanks to the help of professor Eric Rouiller,
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we worked with monkeys.
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So in the first-case scenario,
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we re-implanted the cells in the normal brain
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and what we saw is that they completely disappeared after a few weeks,
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as if they were taken from the brain,
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they go back home,
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the space is already busy,
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they are not needed there, so they disappear.
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In the second-case scenario,
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we performed the lesion,
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we re-implanted exactly the same cells,
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and in this case, the cells remained --
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and they became mature neurons.
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And that's the image of what we could observe under the microscope.
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Those are the cells that were re-implanted.
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And the proof they carry,
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these little spots, those are the cells that we've labeled
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in vitro, when they were in culture.
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But we could not stop here, of course.
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Do these cells also help a monkey to recover after a lesion?
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So for that, we trained monkeys to perform a manual dexterity task.
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They had to retrieve food pellets from a tray.
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They were very good at it.
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And when they had reached a plateau of performance,
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we did a lesion in the motor cortex corresponding to the hand motion.
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So the monkeys were plegic,
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they could not move their hand anymore.
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And exactly the same as humans would do,
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they spontaneously recovered to a certain extent,
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exactly the same as after a stroke.
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Patients are completely plegic,
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and then they try to recover due to a brain plasticity mechanism,
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they recover to a certain extent,
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exactly the same for the monkey.
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So when we were sure that the monkey had reached his plateau
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of spontaneous recovery,
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we implanted his own cells.
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So on the left side, you see the monkey that has spontaneously recovered.
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He's at about 40 to 50 percent of his previous performance
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before the lesion.
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He's not so accurate, not so quick.
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And look now when we re-implant the cells:
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Two months after re-implantation, the same individual.
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(Applause)
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It was also very exciting results for us, I tell you.
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Since that time, we've understood much more about these cells.
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We know that we can cryopreserve them,
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we can use them later on.
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We know that we can apply them in other neuropathological models,
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like Parkinson's disease, for example.
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But our dream is still to implant them in humans.
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And I really hope that I'll be able to show you soon
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that the human brain is giving us the tools to repair itself.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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Bruno Giussani: Jocelyne, this is amazing,
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and I'm sure that right now, there are several dozen people in the audience,
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possibly even a majority,
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who are thinking, "I know somebody who can use this."
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I do, in any case.
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And of course the question is,
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what are the biggest obstacles
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before you can go into human clinical trials?
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Jocelyne Bloch: The biggest obstacles are regulations. (Laughs)
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So, from these exciting results, you need to fill out
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about two kilograms of papers and forms
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to be able to go through these kind of trials.
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BG: Which is understandable, the brain is delicate, etc.
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JB: Yes, it is, but it takes a long time
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and a lot of patience and almost a professional team to do it, you know?
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BG: If you project yourself --
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having done the research
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and having tried to get permission to start the trials,
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if you project yourself out in time,
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how many years before somebody gets into a hospital
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and this therapy is available?
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JB: So, it's very difficult to say.
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It depends, first, on the approval of the trial.
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Will the regulation allow us to do it soon?
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And then, you have to perform this kind of study
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in a small group of patients.
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So it takes, already, a long time to select the patients,
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do the treatment
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and evaluate if it's useful to do this kind of treatment.
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And then you have to deploy this to a multicentric trial.
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You have to really prove first that it's useful
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before offering this treatment up for everybody.
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BG: And safe, of course. JB: Of course.
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BG: Jocelyne, thank you for coming to TED and sharing this.
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BG: Thank you.
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(Applause)
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