What role does luck play in your life? | Barry Schwartz

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00:13
Hello, everybody.
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Hola a tots.
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I'm honored to be here to talk to you,
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És un plaer estar aquí i parlar amb vosaltres.
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and what I'm going to talk about today is luck and justice
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Avui us parlaré sobre la sort i la justícia,
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and the relation between them.
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i de com estan relacionades.
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Some years ago,
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Fa uns anys,
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a former student of mine called me
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un antic estudiant meu em va trucar
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to talk about his daughter.
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per parlar de la seva filla.
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It turns out his daughter was a high school senior,
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Estava acabant el batxillerat,
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was seriously interested in applying to Swarthmore,
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volia entrar a Swarthmore,
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where I taught,
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on jo donava classes,
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and he wanted to get my sense of whether she would get in.
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i volia saber si jo creia que hi podria accedir.
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Swarthmore is an extremely hard school to get into.
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Swarthmore és una escola on és molt difícil entrar.
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So I said, "Well, tell me about her."
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Vaig dir-li: «Explica'm coses sobre ella»,
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And he told me about her,
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i em va dir
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what her grades were like, her board scores,
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quines notes treia, les assignatures que feia,
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her extracurricular activities.
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les activitats extraescolars, etc.
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And she just sounded like a superstar,
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I tot el que deia sonava perfecte,
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wonderful, wonderful kid.
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una noia meravellosa.
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So I said, "She sounds fabulous.
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Vaig dir-li: «Tot el que em dius sona genial.
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She sounds like just the kind of student
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És el tipus d'estudiant
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that Swarthmore would love to have."
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que Swarthmore voldria tenir.»
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And so he said, "Well, does that mean that she'll get in?"
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I em va preguntar: «Això vol dir que hi entraria?»
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And I said, "No.
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Vaig dir-li: «No.
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There just aren't enough spots in the Swarthmore class
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No hi ha places suficients a Swarthmore
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for everybody who's good.
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per a tothom qui és bo.
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There aren't enough spots at Harvard or Yale or Princeton or Stanford.
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Ni a Harvard, Yale, Princeton o Stanford.
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There aren't enough spots at Google or Amazon or Apple.
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No hi ha suficients places a Google, Amazon o Apple.
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There aren't enough spots at the TED Conference.
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No hi ha prou places a les conferències TED.
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There are an awful lot of good people,
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Hi ha moltíssimes persones molt bones,
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and some of them are not going to make it."
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però algunes no aconseguiran mai accedir-hi.»
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So he said, "Well, what are we supposed to do?"
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I em va dir: «Aleshores, què hi podem fer?»
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And I said, "That's a very good question."
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«És una molt bona pregunta», li vaig respondre.
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What are we supposed to do?
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Què se suposa que hem de fer?
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And I know what colleges and universities have done.
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Sé què fan algunes universitats.
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In the interest of fairness,
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En pro de la justícia,
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what they've done is they've kept ratcheting up the standards
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apugen els estàndards,
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because it doesn't seem fair to admit less qualified people
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perquè no és just admetre persones poc qualificades
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and reject better qualified people,
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i rebutjar-ne de molt qualificades,
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so you just keep raising the standards higher and higher
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així que s'apugen els estàndards més i més
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until they're high enough that you can admit
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fins que són tan alts que només admeten
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only the number of students that you can fit.
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el nombre d'estudiants que hi caben.
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And this violates a lot of people's sense of what justice and fairness is.
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Això vulnera allò que molta gent considera just.
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People in American society have different opinions
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A la societat americana hi ha opinions diferents
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about what it means to say that some sort of process is just,
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sobre què significa que un procés sigui just,
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but I think there's one thing that pretty much everyone agrees on,
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però crec que la majoria està d'acord en una cosa:
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that in a just system, a fair system,
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que en un sistema just,
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people get what they deserve.
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la gent té el que es mereix.
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And what I was telling my former student
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I el que jo volia dir al meu antic estudiant
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is that when it comes to college admissions,
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és que, pel que fa a les admissions a les universitats,
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it just isn't true that people get what they deserve.
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no és cert que la gent té el que es mereix.
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Some people get what they deserve, and some people don't,
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Alguns ho tenen, però d'altres no.
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and that's just the way it is.
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Això és així.
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When you ratchet up requirements as colleges have done,
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Quan apuges tant els estàndards com han fet les universitats,
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what you do is you create a crazy competition
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es crea una competició boja
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among high school kids,
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entre els estudiants,
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because it's not adequate to be good,
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perquè no està bé ser bo,
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it's not adequate to be good enough,
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no està bé ser suficientment bo,
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you have to be better than everybody else who is also applying.
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s'ha de ser millor que tots els altres.
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And what this has done,
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I el que passa,
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or what this has contributed to,
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el que provoca,
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is a kind of epidemic of anxiety and depression
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és una mena d'epidèmia d'ansietat i depressió
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that is just crushing our teenagers.
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entre els adolescents.
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We are wrecking a generation with this kind of competition.
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Estem marcant una generació amb aquestes competicions.
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As I was thinking about this,
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Al reflexionar sobre això,
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it occurred to me there's a way to fix this problem.
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se'm va ocórrer que hi ha una manera d'arreglar-ho.
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And here's what we could do:
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Podríem fer això:
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when people apply to college,
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quan la gent vulgui entrar a la universitat,
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we distinguish between the applicants who are good enough to be successful
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podem diferenciar entre els estudiants que són prou bons per ser exitosos
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and the ones who aren't,
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i els que no ho són,
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and we reject the ones who aren't good enough to be successful,
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i rebutjar els que no són prou bons.
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and then we take all of the others, and we put their names in a hat,
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I aleshores podríem considerar tots els altres noms,
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and we just pick them out at random
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posar-los dins un barret, triar-los a l'atzar
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and admit them.
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i admetre'ls.
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In other words, we do college admissions by lottery,
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És a dir, escollim qui entra per loteria,
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and maybe we do job offers at tech companies by lottery,
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i podem donar feines per loteria,
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and -- perish the thought --
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i –quina bogeria, no?–
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maybe we even make decisions about who gets invited to talk at TED
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potser triar qui fa TED Talks per loteria.
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by lottery.
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04:27
Now, don't misunderstand me,
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Però no em malentengueu,
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a lottery like this is not going to eliminate the injustice.
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una loteria com aquesta no eliminaria pas la injustícia.
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There will still be plenty of people who don't get what they deserve.
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Encara hi hauria moltíssima gent que no tindria el que es mereix.
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But at least it's honest.
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Però com a mínim és honest.
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It reveals the injustice for what it is instead of pretending otherwise,
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Mostra la injustícia tal com és, en comptes de pretendre el contrari,
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and it punctures the incredible pressure balloon
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i evita aquest increïble globus de pressió
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that our high school kids are now living under.
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sota el qual viuen els estudiants.
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So why is it that this perfectly reasonable proposal,
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Per què aquesta proposta,
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if I do say so myself,
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perfectamente raonable,
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doesn't get any serious discussion?
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no es considera seriosament?
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I think I know why.
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Crec que en sé el perquè.
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I think it's that we hate the idea
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Crec que odiem la idea
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that really important things in life might happen by luck or by chance,
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que les coses realment importants a la vida passin per atzar o per sort,
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that really important things in our lives are not under our control.
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que les coses realment importants no estiguin sota el nostre control.
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I hate that idea.
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Jo odio aquesta idea.
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It's not surprising that people hate that idea,
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No és sorprenent que la gent també l'odiï,
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but it simply is the way things are.
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però la cosa funciona així.
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First of all, college admissions already is a lottery.
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Primer, entrar a les universitats ja és una loteria.
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It's just that the admissions officers pretend that it isn't.
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Només que els qui decideixen qui hi accedeix
fan veure que no ho és.
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So let's be honest about it.
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Siguem honestos.
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And second,
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I segon,
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I think if we appreciated that it was a lottery,
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si veiéssim que és una loteria,
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it would also get us to acknowledge the importance of good fortune
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ens faria apreciar la importància de tenir bona sort
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in almost every one of our lives.
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en les nostres vides.
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Take me.
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Us explicaré el meu cas.
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Almost all the most significant events in my life have occurred,
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La major part dels fets més importants a la meva vida
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to a large degree,
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han estat, en gran part,
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as a result of good luck.
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el resultat de tenir bona sort.
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When I was in seventh grade, my family left New York
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Quan anava a l'ESO, la meva família va marxar de Nova York
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and went to Westchester County.
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i vam anar a Westchester County.
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Right at the beginning of school,
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Just al començament del curs,
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I met a lovely young girl who became my friend,
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vaig conèixer una noia i ens vam fer amics,
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then she became my best friend,
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després vam ser millors amics,
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then she became my girlfriend
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després va ser la meva parella
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and then she became my wife.
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i després ens vam casar.
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Happily, she's been my wife now
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Estem feliçment casats des de fa 52 anys.
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for 52 years.
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I had very little to do with this. This was a lucky accident.
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Jo no vaig tenir gaire a veure amb això. Va ser fortuït.
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I went off to college,
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Vaig anar a la universitat, i al primer semestre
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and in my first semester, I signed up for a class in introduction to psychology.
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vaig apuntar-me a una classe d'introducció a la psicologia.
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I didn't even know what psychology was,
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Jo no sabia què era la psicologia,
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but it fit into my schedule and it met requirements,
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però encaixava al meu horari i em deixaven fer-la,
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so I took it.
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així que la vaig agafar.
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And by luck, the class was taught
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I, per atzar, la classe la donava
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by a superstar introductory psychology teacher, a legend.
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un professor genial, una llegenda.
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Because of that, I became a psychology major.
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I per això vaig començar a agafar assignatures de psicologia.
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Went off to graduate school.
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I em vaig graduar.
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I was finishing up.
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Estava acabant la carrera,
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A friend of mine who taught at Swarthmore decided
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i un amic que treballava a Swarthmore
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he didn't want to be a professor anymore,
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va decidir abandonar la docència,
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and so he quit to go to medical school.
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ho va deixar per començar medicina.
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The job that he occupied opened up,
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La seva plaça va quedar lliure,
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I applied for it, I got it,
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la vaig sol·licitar, i em van donar la feina,
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the only job I've ever applied for.
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l'única entrevista de feina que he fet mai.
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I spent 45 years teaching at Swarthmore,
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He estat 45 anys donant classes a Swarthmore,
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an institution that had an enormous impact on the shape that my career took.
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una institució que ha marcat molt la meva carrera.
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And to just give one last example,
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I, per donar un altre exemple,
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I was giving a talk about some of my work in New York,
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vaig fer una xerrada a Nova York
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and there was somebody in the audience who came up to me after my talk.
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i algú del públic va venir a parlar-me a l'acabar.
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He introduced himself.
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Es va presentar.
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He said, "My name is Chris.
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«Em dic Chris.
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Would you like to give a talk at TED?"
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Voldries fer una xerrada a TED?»
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And my response was, "What's TED?"
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I jo vaig respondre-li: «Què és TED?»
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Well, I mean, he told me,
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M'ho va explicar.
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and TED then wasn't what it is now.
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Aleshores, TED no era el que és ara.
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But in the intervening years,
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Però en els anys següents,
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the talks I've given at TED have been watched
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més de 20 milions de persones
han vist les xerrades que he donat a TED
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by more than 20 million people.
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07:56
So the conclusion is, I'm a lucky man.
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Així que la conclusió és que sóc un home amb sort.
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I'm lucky about my marriage.
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He tingut sort amb el meu matrimoni,
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I'm lucky about my education.
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amb els meus estudis,
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I'm lucky about my career.
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amb la meva carrera professional.
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And I'm lucky to have had a platform and a voice at something like TED.
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I tinc sort d'haver tingut veu a una plataforma com TED.
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Did I deserve the success I've had?
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Em mereixo l'èxit que he tingut?
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Sure I deserve that success,
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Segurament que sí,
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just as you probably deserve your success.
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igual que vosaltres mereixeu el vostre.
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But lots of people also deserve successes like ours
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Però molta altra gent també se'l mereix
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who haven't had it.
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i no l'ha tingut.
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So do people get what they deserve?
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Les persones tenim el que ens mereixem?
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Is society just?
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La societat és justa?
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Of course not.
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És clar que no.
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Working hard and playing by the rules is just no guarantee of anything.
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Treballar de valent i seguir les normes no és garantia de res.
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If we appreciate the inevitability of this kind of injustice
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Si valorem com son d'inevitables aquestes injustícies
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and the centrality of good fortune,
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i com és de vital tenir bona sort,
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we might ask ourselves
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ens podem preguntar:
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what responsibilities do we have
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quines responsabilitats tenim
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to the people we are now celebrating as heroes in this time of the pandemic
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cap als qui ara durant la pandèmia veiem com a herois,
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when a serious illness befalls their family
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quan una malaltia greu cau sobre les seves famílies
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to make sure that they remain whole and their lives aren't ruined
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per assegurar-nos que resisteixen i les seves vides no s'escapcen
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by the cost of dealing with the illness?
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pel cost de fer front a la malaltia?
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What do we owe people who struggle,
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Què devem a les persones que ho passen malament,
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work hard and are less lucky than we are?
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treballen intensament però tenen menys sort que nosaltres?
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About a half century ago,
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Fa 50 anys,
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the philosopher John Rawls wrote a book called "A Theory of Justice,"
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el filòsof John Rawls va escriure el llibre 'Teoria de la justícia',
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and in that book, he introduced a concept that he called "the veil of ignorance."
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en què parlava del concepte del vel de la ignorància.
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The question he posed was:
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Es feia la pregunta següent:
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If you didn't know what your position in society was going to be,
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si no sabessis quina serà la teva posició a la societat,
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what kind of a society would you want to create?
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quina societat voldries crear?
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And what he suggested
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I suggeria que,
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is that when we don't know whether we're going to enter society
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quan no sabem si, dintre de la societat,
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at the top or at the bottom,
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ocuparem una posició alta o baixa,
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what we want is a society that is pretty damn equal,
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el que voldrem és una societat igualitària al màxim,
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so that even the unlucky
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en la qual els qui no tinguin sort
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will be able to live decent, meaningful and satisfying lives.
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puguin viure vides riques i decents.
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So bring this back, all of you lucky, successful people, to your communities,
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Per tant, els qui tenim sort i èxit, apliquem això a les nostres comunitats
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and do what you can to make sure that we honor and take care of
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i fem el que puguem per cuidar i honorar
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people who are just as deserving of success as we are,
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les persones que es mereixen tant èxit com nosaltres
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but just not as lucky.
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però no han tingut tanta sort.
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Thank you.
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Gràcies.
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