Can the economy grow forever?

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翻译人员: Sirius Xie 校对人员: Yuwei Wu
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Let’s say you discover a magical gold coin that doubles every 25 years.
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假设你发现了一个魔法金币, 每 25 年翻一番。
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75 years later, you’d only have eight coins.
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75 年后, 你只会拥有 8 枚金币。
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But 1,000 years later, you’d have over a trillion.
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但是一千年后, 你的财富会超过一万亿。
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And in just 4,600 years, your gold coins would outweigh the observable universe.
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只需要 4600 年, 你的金币就会超过可观宇宙。
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This periodic doubling is an example of exponential growth,
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这种周期性翻倍 是指数增长的一个例子,
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and while we’re not in any danger of discovering a real-life golden goose-coin,
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虽然我们现实中没有发现哪种模因币 有这种神奇而迷人的危险性,
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something almost as consequential has been growing like this
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但在过去的 200 年里, 有一样几乎同样重要的东西
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for the past 200 or so years: the global economy.
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在爆发式增长全球经济。
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Many economists think that an eternally growing economy
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许多经济学家认为, 经济的持续增长是必要的
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is necessary to keep improving people’s lives,
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来维护人类生活的持续改善,
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and that if the global economy stops growing,
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如果全球经济停止增长,
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people would fight more over the fixed amount of value that exists,
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人们就会为现有的价值固定价值争斗,
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rather than working to generate new value.
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而不是去创造新的价值。
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That raises the question:
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那么问题来了:
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is infinite growth possible on a finite planet?
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对于有限的星球资源来说 无限的经济增长可能实现吗?
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We measure economic growth by tracking the total financial value
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我们通过追踪国家或世界生产 和销售的商品总额
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of everything a country (or the world) produces and sells on the market.
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来衡量经济增长。
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These products can help us meet basic needs
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这些产品可以满足我们的基本需求
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or improve our individual and collective quality of life.
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也能提高我们 个人和集体的生活水平。
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But they also, crucially, take resources to invent, build, or maintain.
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关键在于,发明、建造 甚至是维持现状,都消耗资源。
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For example, this smartphone.
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例如,智能手机。
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It’s valuable in part because it contains aluminum, gallium, and silicon,
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它的部分价值来源于 它所含的铝、镓和硅,
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all of which took energy and resources to mine, purify, and turn into a phone.
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而这些则需要对能源和资源进行 开采和提纯,然后才能制成手机。
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It’s also valuable because of all the effort that went
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它还因人力的投入而有价值
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into designing the hardware and writing the software.
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设计硬件、编写软件, 都是其价值所在。
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And it’s also valuable because a guy in a black turtleneck got up on stage
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当然,它的价值还体现在一个穿着 黑色高领毛衣的人在舞台上对你说
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and told you it was.
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它是多么有价值。
01:54
So how do we grow the total financial value of all things?
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那么,我们应该如何 增加所有事物的总金融价值呢?
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One way is to make more things.
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一种方式是我们制造更多的东西。
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Another way is to invent new things.
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另一种方式是我们发明新的东西。
02:05
However you do it, growing the economy requires resources and energy.
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无论你怎么做,经济增长都需要 资源和能源的支持。
02:10
And eventually, won’t we just run out?
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最终,我们会把它们消耗殆尽吗?
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To answer this question, let's consider what goes into the economy
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为了回答这个问题,让我们来想想, 经济所需的原料都有什么
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and what comes out of it:
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经济又生产了什么:
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its inputs are labor, capital— which you can think of as money—
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它需要劳力、资本—— 或者说钱——
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and natural resources, like water or energy.
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以及自然资源,比如水或者能源。
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Its output is value.
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然后它产生了价值。
02:29
Over the past 200 years, economies have gotten exponentially more efficient
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在过去 200 年里, 经济体在创造价值方面的效率
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at producing value.
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呈指数级提高。
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If we, as a species, are able to keep upgrading our economies
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作为一个物种, 若我们可以不断发展我们的经济
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so that they get ever-more efficient,
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使其产生更多的效益,
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we could theoretically pump out more and more value using the same—
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理论上来说,我们可以用同样的—— 或者再野心勃勃一点——
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or, let’s be really ambitious here— fewer resources.
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用更少的资源创造更多的价值
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So, how do we do that?
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那么,我们该怎么做?
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How do we increase efficiency?
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我们应该怎样增加效能?
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With new technologies.
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用新科技吗?
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This is where we hit a snag.
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这就是问题所在了。
03:01
New tech, in addition to making things more efficient,
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新技术除了能提高效率外,
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can also generate new demand, which ends up using more resources.
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还会产生新的需求, 这最终会消耗更多的资源。
03:09
We’re actually not in imminent danger of running out of most resources.
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事实上,我们并没有面临耗尽 大部分资源的紧迫危险。
03:14
But we have a much bigger and more immediate problem:
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但我们有一个更大且更紧迫的问题:
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the global economy, and in particular those of rich countries,
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全球经济,特别是富裕国家的经济,
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is driving climate change and destroying valuable natural environments
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正在推动气候变化, 破坏我们所有人赖以生存的
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on which all of us depend—
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宝贵环境——
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soil, forests, fisheries, and countless other resources
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土壤、森林、渔业和无数其它
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that help keep our civilization running.
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帮助维持我们文明运转的资源。
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So, what should we do?
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我们该做些什么?
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This is where economists disagree.
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这就是经济学家们的争论所在。
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Most economists think that new ideas will be able to fix most of these problems.
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大多数经济学家认为, 新想法总能解决多数问题。
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They argue that,
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他们认为,
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in the same way that exponentially increasing resource and energy use
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对于能源的成倍增长的使用
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have fueled exponential economic growth,
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也极大程度上促进的增长,
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human ingenuity has also increased exponentially,
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人类的创造力也成倍增长,
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and will rise to meet these challenges in ways that we simply can't predict.
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并将以我们无法预测的方式 应对这些挑战。
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For example, between 2000 and 2014,
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举个例子, 2000 年至 2014 年,
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Germany grew their GDP by 16%, while cutting CO2 emissions by 12%.
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德国的GDP增长了 16%,同时 也减少了 12% 的二氧化碳排放。
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That’s impressive, but it’s not cutting emissions fast enough
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这令人印象深刻, 但它的减排速度仍不足以
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to limit warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius.
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将气温上涨限定在 1.5 摄氏度以内。
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For this reason and others,
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出于这样那样的原因,
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some economists think the solution is to reengineer our economies completely.
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有些经济学家认为,应该彻底改变 我们现存的经济结构和能源消耗。
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They make the case that what we should really be doing is weaning ourselves
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他们认为,我们真正应该做的是 摆脱对增长的依赖
04:29
from the addiction to growth and shifting to a post-growth economy.
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转向后增长经济。
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What would that look like?
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那会是怎样的?
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A post-growth economy wouldn’t assume that the economy should grow;
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后增长经济不会以 经济一定会增长为前提;
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instead, it would require us to focus on improving what we really need—
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相反,它需要我们专注于 改善我们真正需要的东西——
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things like renewable energy, healthcare, and public transportation.
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比如可再生能源、 医疗保健和公共交通。
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To do that, post-growth economists suggest that rich countries
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为了做到这一点,后增长经济学家 建议富裕国家应该采取措施
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should do things like guarantee living wages,
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比如保障最低生活工资,
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reduce wealth and income inequality,
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促进财富和收入平等,
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and ensure universal access to public services, like healthcare.
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确保普及医疗等公共服务。
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In such an economy, people would be theoretically less dependent on their jobs
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在这样的经济运转下,理论上来说 人们将不那么依赖工作来谋生,
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to earn their living or get healthcare,
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so it might be more feasible to scale down production
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或获得医疗服务因此, 减少被认为不那么必要的产品的生产
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of things deemed less necessary.
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可能更可行。
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But this raises other questions: who gets to define what’s necessary?
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但是这又带来了其它的问题: 谁来定义什么是必要的?
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How would we resolve the inevitable disagreements?
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我们怎样才能解决不可避免的分歧?
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Could we really do away with entire industries?
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我们能够从所有的行业中 脱离出来吗?
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The “we’ll come up with new ideas to solve these problems” approach
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“我们会有新的方针 来解决现有问题”的法案
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can seem as realistic as, well, a magical gold coin.
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看起来就像那枚 魔法金币一样不现实。
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And the “we have to fundamentally change our economies” approach
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而“我们必须从根本上 改变我们的经济”的提议
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can seem politically daunting, particularly in rich countries.
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这在政治上似乎令人望而却步, 尤其是在富裕国家。
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One way or another, we have to find a way to benefit everyone
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无论如何,我们必须找到一种 既能造福所有人
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while also taking care of our planet.
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又能保护我们的地球的方法。

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